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Lol just buy another L60 sorted . A spare if your other one breaks down 🎉🎉🎉😊

What about a conveyor belt system or radial stacker that the lh60 feeds into so you're not double handling the product?

Build the new machine. Why? 1. If you can break even with this machine with the loan and interest within 45 years, you made five years profits. 2. If a new company wants to buy the land that you have right now (New land) the value of the land is then higher than before, even though you have a leasing contract, you can sell the machine to the owner of the land and make money off it if you don’t stay there 50 years 3: Be able to grow your income in the business by bringing more staff, more projects and more trains which reduce your freedom time of the machine money wise. 4: your building a safer offloading system for the people all around offloading the train. And if the machine is broken, you can still unload as usual with the current set up with trucks and other vehicles.

Oh no that doesn't make monetary sense for a bottom loader.

The new yard will be to small in 10 to 15 years so it doesn’t make sense to put a under ground system in place where you don’t own out right. That money has to be put away for the next site that’s fully owned and twice the size

You don't need others to advise you. You've already decided, fella. Best of luck, God loves a tryer. Stay strong and keep the faith.

Personally id go for a bigger liebherr lh 120 /150 with a rail gantry unload even quicker keep the lh60 for backup/ duel unload because you have already said the fine for late trains can run in to the thousands then put a hopper and conveyor system that runs along the back of the bays and drops it in the chosen bays

Stick with the lh60 👍

The bottom discharge how do u prevent cross product mixture.

£6 mill is chicken change for you cuz !!!!

Do it. Make the change.

One question are kipping-wagons rare in britian??

Nice idea but you just don't have the space for it, keep going as you are.

6 million pound to gain one MAYBE two more trains a day? Money is super expensive at the moment, will the daily overhead savings even outweigh the interest expense on that 6m? It's 40 grand a month on something that makes no money. I don't think the improvements are nearly worth it. I think there are far better uses for that money [sic. opportunity cost]. If it were 3-4 million pound and you were able to unload as much as a solid 6 trains a day? Maybe then. I think there the numbers make more sense. But until then, you can just get another digger if you need more throughput. Which can more easily scale to real demand. With the full system, you the less you use it, the more wasteful it is. Imagine spending the money on the throughput and then not using it. Maybe a compromise is spend a couple pound today, install the groundwork infrastructure. Stuff that's hard to do later. And then wait until the diggers no longer make sense to use, THEN invest in the system.

Build the pit while it’s still under construction and if demand increases enough to make the switch then you switch

Don't bother. Use the site to start Ashville Trees and Shrubs, instead. Exit the construction industry, and re-green the world, starting with the damage done by HS2.

Rotary car dumper would be another good option

definitely think the hopper idea is better as the container work is a lot more involved than just unloading them eg customs clearance etc and further training for the loaders

Good vlog could be expensive times ahead no crystal balls available 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

Keep the lh60

I’d put the concrete work in now. Planning to install the equipment in the future. Down time of your yard. Would likely cost more in the future. Than adding the cost of installation now. Especially if turn over has increased

Why not buy a second lh60 to keep up with demand. It’ll be still much cheaper and you don’t own the new yard either

We need plenty more exciting lh60 train offload vids !! Hang on to the 60 meantime. seriously look at upgrading to conveyor system after the new yard is settled down and up & running !

The blueprint 0:30 is already same as the old system of discharge, for sure you gonna need youtube comments to take a 6mil decision 😅😅😅😅

FULL SEND, DO IT

Box ferrets the rest later........ P.s don't forget the water pump sisdem

The pros and cons have been laid out. I can't make that decision easily, but a tried and true system that's already in place means that if a bottleneck appears, it'll be that in the long run. But a new system, new overheads, new employees, new training, and potentially new customers would also be the way to go. You either will make your company a pioneer in the industry, or run the risk of stagnation and profit-loss. The price of fuels alone are projected to go up, but the prices of electricity very rarely fluctuate greatly. I'd say bite the bullet and go for the new material handler.

second option daniel the pit in my opinion

I’d put the box in for bottom discharge now while your doing the track work then you can add the rest later without the disruption if you feel it’s needed

I believe you should go with bottom discharge system. The cost is steep but in long run it will pay off.

LH60 into a hopper that feeds conveyors. LH60 doesn't have to move and you don't have other plant having to shift the loads. Existing training on the LH60, existing maintenance known on conveyors, less plant moving around site, no underground digging/construction. Either that or existing setup but with an extra LH60. Just offload it quicker!

No keep LH60 😊

If you can afford it without it being a massive expense that’ll hurt the business why not use it to ease pressure of the demand

Buy another unloading machine, double your capability and save 5 million.

For me the main consideration would be offsetting the £6m+interest over twenty years, vs maintenance and replacement of machines over the same period. It's going to be less with the latter option, but it brings more headaches. Also the front loader always seems to have a fault.

why not just use a tracked stacker and field conveyors?

Simple cost/benefit analysis. Find out how much time/material is moved currently, and set it up with what the proposal can do. Then find out how much time has to be spend using the 'new solution' for it to become profitable over the current setup. If the time it takes is over the amount that mgmt. believes it should/ want they want it to take, then its a no go, if mgmt is good with the time frame then do so. Remember to include operations cost for the machines + Service&maintenance.

If you would go with the expensive solution… Who will need to ensure that every Waggon is fully unloaded? Who will be charged for if some Waggons do have some remaining material in the corners?

This is truly inspiring and beautiful Great content Daniel,keep it up👌🏼 Shout out to St Lucia and ya man as he is on his grind👏🏼✌🏼

Nice.

is it a light at the end of the tunnel or is it a train coming 🤣

Hey D I say keep setup we already know and start customizing from there

How about keeping the LH60 but adding a movable hopper with conveyor belt to negate the need for the loader, The lh60 can load direct from the train into the hopper, the conveyor can drop the material directly into the correct bay.

You have the men and the expertise to make the main building that is required, you’re going to need maintenance men, of which some could be welder fabricators, so all the support structures could be built in house. And they will have other work. Then you have the people you already had, to build your conveyor systems you will need. You going to have to call in contractors to do the main power supplies anyway, so the power needed for the discharge system can also can go into place early as well. So when you sit down and think really hard about the whole system, most of it you can do yourselves.

you talk my sort of language, bite the bullet & get the discharge unit. Just think how much the next 360 will cost you & all the electronics on them aren't cheap when they go wrong (which they will) I'm from a farming background. The 360 will depreciate in value quicker than a discharge unit

With the bottom discharge your very independent lh60 you need very skilled operator's id do what some people suggest do the concrete works and finish it at later stage

Daniel it's a hell of alot of money to borrow on what essentially is rented land. As the saying goes if it ain't broke don't try to fix it.

LH60 allows for versatility. It’s a more advanced and efferent weapon already. It’s best suited and adaptable to future needs in my personal opinion.

All chant together: BDU BDU BDU!

there must be some combination of both…