The Zenith ZF-56 - The Unholy Lovechild Of An AR & An HK33

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • Today Luke C ‪@BallisticAviation‬ is back on the SHOT Show 2024 floor with Zenith Firearms to talk about their wild roller delayed rifle, the ZF-56. This new rifle combines a lot of the handling characteristics and features of the much-loved AR-15 platform and combines it with the theoretically more robust roller-delayed blowback system. The ZF-56 will be available in both 5.56 and .300 blackout upon initial launch, and of course, that means that the ZF-56 will be compatible with all standard AR magazines.
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Komentáře • 189

  • @atomicsmith
    @atomicsmith Před 5 měsíci +121

    Next on Forgotten Weapons…

    • @Lungorthin666
      @Lungorthin666 Před 5 měsíci +1

      😂

    • @Snougaloogie
      @Snougaloogie Před 5 měsíci +26

      Same people who say this complain that there are 400 new ARs at shot show

    • @GoldenEagleXTND
      @GoldenEagleXTND Před 5 měsíci +10

      ​@@SnougaloogieBecause this is an AR.. with a hybrid reocil system, with an insane price.

    • @bintjbeil7892
      @bintjbeil7892 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@GoldenEagleXTND
      Spiderman putting on his glasses moment

    • @OtiumBorealis
      @OtiumBorealis Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@GoldenEagleXTND This rifle is an AR like how a crocodile is a lizard.

  • @Whitefreeze_
    @Whitefreeze_ Před 5 měsíci +345

    It's cool, but it's not $2500 cool

    • @mmancino1982
      @mmancino1982 Před 5 měsíci +10

      For real

    • @calv279
      @calv279 Před 5 měsíci +27

      First comment I see and I'm like nope before I even watched lol

    • @saurelius5217
      @saurelius5217 Před 5 měsíci +7

      The only other industry that's as bad as gun manufacturers is the ergonomic chair industry, though the ergo chair industry is worse since their chairs are even more expensive than a gun that can you know, withstand constant miniature explosions.

    • @GoldenEagleXTND
      @GoldenEagleXTND Před 5 měsíci +7

      The industry is getting to the point of the AR bubble that burts years ago AGAIN. Trying to wring as much money from a customer base while they can.
      There will be plenty of suckers who will buy these and continue to indicate that consoomers will slurp up their slop to CONSOOM

    • @longrangevoodoo4480
      @longrangevoodoo4480 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Id pay $2k for an HK33 variant. This? No. Not this.

  • @BangoJay_Official
    @BangoJay_Official Před 5 měsíci +96

    As a huge fan of the HK slap, I'm excited to try the Zenith "uppercut" 👀

  • @sergiom9958
    @sergiom9958 Před 5 měsíci +51

    "We wanted to make something new"... Heckler & Koch gave the world the G41 in 1979, with the small difference that it was made out of stamped steel instead of milled aluminium.

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee Před 5 měsíci +8

      It has the last round bolt hold open now! Innovation.

    • @kutter_ttl6786
      @kutter_ttl6786 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@JinKee The original G41 also offered a last round bolt hold open too.

    • @MrLM002
      @MrLM002 Před 4 měsíci +1

      MAC might like this better, he bent the receiver on one of his full auto HKs fairly effortlessly.

  • @johnk4541
    @johnk4541 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Everyone at shot show thinks they still could charge covid prices, no we don’t want a $999 .22 scorpion and we don’t want this for that price 😂

  • @pb7087
    @pb7087 Před 5 měsíci +57

    Roller delayed only has reduced recoil when compared to direct blowback systems. The AR is not direct blowback, they have a delayed system using gas,, so there is no recoil reduction benefit in going to roller delayed for this. Sweet Jesus Zenith.

    • @KeterMalkuth
      @KeterMalkuth Před 5 měsíci +6

      The MPX even has less recoil than the MP5, if only by a little bit.

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ Před 5 měsíci +6

      First thing i said when i saw this video.

    • @ronin223
      @ronin223 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Cool story bro but I have both and hk93 has lower recoil than a ar15

    • @Absolute_Goblin
      @Absolute_Goblin Před 5 měsíci +5

      Did you expect the clone company guys to be fantastic innovators? They're doing the best that they can, okay!

    • @pb7087
      @pb7087 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Cool story bro, I don’t believe you. Or your AR is way overgassed and under-sprung, or the HK93 weighs more than your AR. Weight is a huge factor in felt recoil. My CETME was no softer recoiling than my AR10. Same same,.

  • @jonbeck5945
    @jonbeck5945 Před 5 měsíci +39

    A rifle that no HK person(which is Zenith’s main customer) wanted. Give us an actual HK33. If I wanted an AR, I have one and can buy a really great one for half what you’re asking for this.

    • @shawnbillingsley991
      @shawnbillingsley991 Před 5 měsíci +6

      For real. Why does nobody make a true HK33 clone. It would fly off the shelves. Nobody wants this or PTR’s STANAG mag abomination

    • @jonbeck5945
      @jonbeck5945 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@shawnbillingsley991for real. Like, read the fucking room. People are sick of AR’s. That’s why they want MP5’s and the like in the first place. Something different. Not this same old generic shit.

    • @railfanningpoints2.045
      @railfanningpoints2.045 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@jonbeck5945 Nothing beats the AR. Cry lol.

    • @jonbeck5945
      @jonbeck5945 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@railfanningpoints2.045maybe. But it’s fucking boring.

    • @railfanningpoints2.045
      @railfanningpoints2.045 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @jonbeck5945 Borning reliability and modularity is great. Nothing beats the AR. Then again, I'm not a gun collector who needs a new range toy every month.

  • @762x69
    @762x69 Před 5 měsíci +34

    Cameraman lingering on that 6-8 trigger pull weight like a champ, lol

    • @roundrock63
      @roundrock63 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Are companies doing this for first time owners so they won’t have an ND?
      My SIG M400 was the same way. Much better with a LaRue trigger.

    • @762x69
      @762x69 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@roundrock63 I have two stock mil-spec CMMG triggers that break well under 6 lbs. This is more of a lazy finishing final product issue to me..

    • @stevennewman4778
      @stevennewman4778 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @roundrock63 Mostly. Blame the lawyers. No new design hits the market anymore that doesn’t have them involved, domestically anyway.

  • @j0nnY77x
    @j0nnY77x Před 5 měsíci +4

    Should have spent all that R&D money into just importing the HK33/HK53 clones.

  • @brandonschwertley2723
    @brandonschwertley2723 Před 5 měsíci +17

    Um, roller delay guns actually tend to have more recoil than their locked breech cousins, they are harder to clean because there is usually excess gas venting into the receiver, and they don't suppress well. Unless you swap the "locking" shoulders out for more aggressive ones to further delay the opening. It's not the reliability that's an issue, its the gun battering itself from the higher bolt velocity and the excess gas. So $2500, for some Shot Show rep to lie to me about the benefits of this rifle. He really should have talked about the robust qualities of the action. The durability, the the ability to work through dirt debris and carbon build up, the reduced necessity of maintenance. Those are the real strengths of the roller delayed system, not whatever this guy was peddling.
    Also two missed opportunities, pic rail rear for folding stocks. That's half the fun of having a self contained recoil spring in the receiver. Plus the option to swap sides on the charging handle. Lefties are going to hate that design if they cannot change the side of the charging handle. You still have to use it to clear any malfunction, dud rounds, etc.

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ Před 5 měsíci

      Theres a reason HK could never get a full-sized rifle squared away with a roller delayed system. It works great for sub guns, but with rifle calibers not so much (machine guns yes, rifles no)

    • @krockpotbroccoli65
      @krockpotbroccoli65 Před 5 měsíci +7

      ​@@John_Redcorn_ Uhhhh..... The G3........

    • @bintjbeil7892
      @bintjbeil7892 Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@John_Redcorn_ please tell me you're not a mechanical engineer without saying you are not.

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ Před 5 měsíci

      @@bintjbeil7892 dont need to be: i can read. The info is out there

    • @nathanabraham8762
      @nathanabraham8762 Před 5 měsíci

      Actually the ar is a terrible suppressor host due to gas blow back into your face. Recoil is really a shooters perception when it comes to most modern firearms rollers delays included if you put a spur stock on this it will have the same recoil as a ar with almost no gas in the face that (reliable) ar 15s do while suppressed there is no way around it. Now the piston driven systems have problems with port pop meaning that if you have piston ar you can’t make it quite because of the gas bleed off. A great example of this issue it the Ak 47 and aug. also there is a Goldie locks zone where you can build the action to handle suppressed and none suppressed in roller delays hopefully they found out for that price.

  • @FNMich
    @FNMich Před 5 měsíci +6

    I wanna hear Hop’s take!

  • @legalizegrenades1575
    @legalizegrenades1575 Před 5 měsíci +6

    i can’t think of a good reason why anyone would prefer this over an HK33 clone

  • @Just_A_Gun_Guy
    @Just_A_Gun_Guy Před 5 měsíci +30

    Looks good except that front rail is gigantic

    • @maxfanin1792
      @maxfanin1792 Před 5 měsíci +1

      My Wallet saw that 👁️👄👁️💪

  • @puma51921
    @puma51921 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Should have made it work with Ar lowers

  • @RedZeppelinAirship
    @RedZeppelinAirship Před 5 měsíci +4

    I mean it's interesting, but it really should've been brought to shot show with a 19-13 rail on it with a folding stock, like why have the buffer tube on the gun if it doesn't need it?
    Would be far more interesting if it was an upper that just slapped onto an AR lower since nobody wants to pay $300 for an okay/decent HK trigger to go in their $2500 gun that has an 8lb pull from factory.
    All when you can buy a $80 2 stage PSA trigger and have something better than a $300 HK trigger upgrade.
    When will companies just give us an HK93 and maybe a more modern re-visioning that uses AR triggers, mags and has a bolt release? It shouldn't be that difficult.

  • @jakegrube9477
    @jakegrube9477 Před 5 měsíci +51

    they should have put the charging handle on the side of the receiver, the big issue with the hk platform is it getting in the way of mounting stuff

    • @joemama.556
      @joemama.556 Před 5 měsíci +6

      for some reason no one designing these types of charging handles seems to realize that, its annoying. at least they could have angled a bit more downwards and not literally touching the top rail smh

    • @Aperson156
      @Aperson156 Před 5 měsíci +16

      ​@@joemama.556 They don't care because it's being sold to people for "huehuehue HK slap".

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 Před 5 měsíci

      Like The FAL or XCR

    • @victorpereira225
      @victorpereira225 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I don't get why they went throught the trouble of setting up the charging handle to lock down rather than up but made it big enough to interfere with anything mounted on the front of the top rail.

    • @MerihemXx
      @MerihemXx Před 5 měsíci +2

      I don't know for certain, but the HK roller delayed system for the rifle calibers have a lot of friction to overcome, so they typically have a bit of primary extraction before the action goes back. Even with that, I've found racking an HK91 to be way more difficult than an FAL. It's a design quirk that I don't think they can get around.
      ...but yeah, the slap though!

  • @SM-og9pt
    @SM-og9pt Před 5 měsíci +3

    At this price do you have to start thinking MCX or SCAR-16 as foldy boy stock competitors. Tough place to be.

  • @Barbaroossa
    @Barbaroossa Před 5 měsíci +24

    The answer to a question that nobody has asked. People who want an HK33 that takes AR magazines will simply wait for PTR's clone.

    • @Chewee394
      @Chewee394 Před 5 měsíci +3

      The PTR looks thinner, shorter with a collapsible stock, and lighter. Seems like the best choice in my opinion.

    • @Barbaroossa
      @Barbaroossa Před 5 měsíci

      @@Chewee394 I agree. My only complaint is, due to the fact that it is a clone correct gun, the mag release is a bit too far from the trigger so some people might have to break their grip to eject the magazine.

    • @p1o328
      @p1o328 Před 4 měsíci

      literally my dream rifle tf you talking about

    • @Barbaroossa
      @Barbaroossa Před 4 měsíci

      @@p1o328 I don't believe you exist at all. For all I know you could be a figment of my imagination since I didn't take my pills today.

  • @bob445566DE
    @bob445566DE Před 5 měsíci +2

    Very interesting and cool but I am not too sure if I believe the claims about the recoil.
    I own an original converted HK33 and it's has a very heavy bolt carrier and a pretty violent action. It's reliable and durable but it definitely has a comparatively heavy prolonged recoil impulse.
    But I also know that you can improve the recoil of roller delayed guns by changing the angle of the locking surfaces, so maybe that's what's going on.
    With a good buffer this thing probably a excellent surpressor host.

  • @doublezzranch849
    @doublezzranch849 Před 5 měsíci +7

    This is $1,200 cool.

    • @mpjake7485
      @mpjake7485 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Exactly!! Definitely not worth 2 Psa jakls imo

    • @Strigon01
      @Strigon01 Před 5 měsíci

      @@mpjake7485 Just buy 2 PSA Jakls instead! In two different configurations. XD

  • @maximusjoseppi5904
    @maximusjoseppi5904 Před 5 měsíci +5

    That's cool but heavy and expensive... These companies need to stop thinking a rifle is worth 2500-4000.
    Fellow gun enthusiasts need to stop giving these greedy companies money with 50-60% profit margins trying to make back r&d money in 6 months

  • @ShadySummerZ
    @ShadySummerZ Před 5 měsíci +30

    Proprietary lower will kill this. Put it on a standard ar lower or a brn180 or mcx type lower.

    • @ShadySummerZ
      @ShadySummerZ Před 5 měsíci

      @@kyotra its roller delayed. It would definitely work.

    • @kyotra
      @kyotra Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ShadySummerZ Nevermind, I was thinking of another gun.
      No idea why you think a proprietary lower will "kill it" though. The entire market doesn't revolve around the AR-15.

    • @abel4776
      @abel4776 Před 5 měsíci

      @@kyotra No one wants to kiss AFT a** to borrow a 4473'ed firearm. By streamlining uppers with the AR lower, we maintain freedom and continue the 2nd by pushing the 80% world forward.

  • @paulfryejr2918
    @paulfryejr2918 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks.

  • @The_Hi_Life
    @The_Hi_Life Před 5 měsíci +4

    😣that price tho… I’m still holding out hope for the PTR 63.

  • @kurtstergar1042
    @kurtstergar1042 Před 4 měsíci

    Upper receiver looks higher than AR so they should have a higher butt stock. The handguard without any accessories looks thick as hell also. Will it take AR drop in triggers ?

  • @TrollinCrazyRussian
    @TrollinCrazyRussian Před 5 měsíci +6

    Sorry it's no way roller delay will recoil softer than low mass bcg+buffer tuned AR.

  • @ryang8040
    @ryang8040 Před 5 měsíci

    I appreciate the vibe of this design. Looks both functional and drippy.

  • @ETHRON1
    @ETHRON1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I always wanted to make an MP5 (exact) clone upper (9mm) that would pin to a AR9 lower...hey Z think on that one..

  • @SS-tr5ru
    @SS-tr5ru Před 5 měsíci

    Yeahhh that’s pretty cool

  • @RaffyJoaquin
    @RaffyJoaquin Před 5 měsíci +1

    Will it take a Geiselle trigger?

  • @jakeg6935
    @jakeg6935 Před měsícem

    Can't wait to see this in a video game in a few years

  • @erichoward5433
    @erichoward5433 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I’ll get the PTR-63 instead, thanks.

  • @Veritas419
    @Veritas419 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Not sure what their relationship with MKE is currently. But a version of the MPT-76 would be worth the $2500 to me, that thing not so much.

  • @tranwc
    @tranwc Před 5 měsíci +1

    "It's the best of both worlds!"- Hanna Montana

  • @andrewschneider4618
    @andrewschneider4618 Před 5 měsíci

    I have plenty of ars in 30865 creedmoor 223 and 300 blackout. With that being said I might have to pick one of these up in 300 black it's kind of a toss-up for me if I do either the pistol or if I do the rifle

  • @JinKee
    @JinKee Před 5 měsíci

    300blk roller lock makes for an interesting subsonic suppressor host. Would be super cool if it has a SD style ported barrel and bufferless can.

  • @DougsDiggers
    @DougsDiggers Před 5 měsíci

    6.5 Grendel with a Six8 magwell.
    Six8 magazines can fit and feed 29 rounds fine.
    Also pmags that normally aren't available in Grendel.
    This would be sick in Grendel.

  • @saurelius5217
    @saurelius5217 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wait, they screwed up big time! Why would you put the charging handle grove at the bottom and not the top? So you can't even HK slap this thing unless you turn it upside down.

  • @jimb.942
    @jimb.942 Před 5 měsíci

    Is the lower polymer?🙁

  • @JinKee
    @JinKee Před 5 měsíci

    No folding stock?

  • @kurtstergar1042
    @kurtstergar1042 Před 4 měsíci

    But can you slap the charging handle?

  • @Dstev98141
    @Dstev98141 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Nice stuff!

  • @meisenhut31
    @meisenhut31 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Why would a company waste it's time and money developing this? Even at $2500 I imagine they'll have to sell a few thousand to break even...

  • @joeval444
    @joeval444 Před 5 měsíci

    Damnit!! Take my MONEY!!!

  • @p90man
    @p90man Před 5 měsíci +1

    Still waiting on a 33/93

  • @FlamerGamer412
    @FlamerGamer412 Před 5 měsíci

    No gas system, but somehow has a handguard that looks larger than the one on the Sig Spear, is kinda impressive.

  • @chrisbreneman6605
    @chrisbreneman6605 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Luke Luke Luke!!!

    • @JB50cal
      @JB50cal Před 5 měsíci +1

      Its Look See

  • @Sig_P229
    @Sig_P229 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Yes please

  • @veisslie_4880
    @veisslie_4880 Před 5 měsíci

    Id be interested in a 9mm and 10mm model

  • @eriks87cam702
    @eriks87cam702 Před 5 měsíci

    People are complainging about this proce but frankly i think its fair...🤷 i mean by the time you actually build the exact ar you want itle be close to 1200 t0 1500...add some man hours afor new machining and you got this bad boy...

  • @Dawn_Raider
    @Dawn_Raider Před 5 měsíci

    Just make a damn HK 33! I want a 33!

  • @navarrerosa5162
    @navarrerosa5162 Před 5 měsíci

    What red dot is that on the rifle

    • @AWPtical800
      @AWPtical800 Před 5 měsíci

      Either a Trijicon Rx01 or the Meprolight copy.

  • @maxfanin1792
    @maxfanin1792 Před 5 měsíci

    Zenith could make a pocket protector and they'd charge 1800$ for it.

  • @Morbius0012
    @Morbius0012 Před 5 měsíci

    "How big do you want the rifle to be?"
    "Yes."

  • @gavindooly2375
    @gavindooly2375 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm imagining military and law enforcement applications.

  • @aaronfarnsworth7653
    @aaronfarnsworth7653 Před 5 měsíci

    Its interesting but looking at their own pictures closeup, it is also concerning. We won't see a teardown and hear the downsides/problems until they are in reviewer/owner hands.

  • @abel4776
    @abel4776 Před 5 měsíci

    If I can't mate it with an 80% lower, I'm out.

  • @eriks87cam702
    @eriks87cam702 Před 5 měsíci

    Frankly this should also be a 762 x39 ...

  • @AlexLee-dc2vb
    @AlexLee-dc2vb Před 5 měsíci

    They act like it's unique as though the CETME-L isn't a thing lmao

  • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
    @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc Před 5 měsíci +2

    Is that a standard AR lower? Hopin so, prayin so, tell me it is.

    • @Nerfboy-NEO
      @Nerfboy-NEO Před 5 měsíci

      It’s not, it’s said in the video that it’s their own lower

    • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
      @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc Před 5 měsíci

      @@Nerfboy-NEO Ah, man, damn--I don't how I missed that. Thanks for setting that straight.

  • @chickenfishhybrid44
    @chickenfishhybrid44 Před 5 měsíci

    Always thought it was so ridiculous that HKs didn't have last round hold open.

  • @Largepapa2
    @Largepapa2 Před 5 měsíci

    An SD would be have easier to make and an easier sell

  • @ashfield4313
    @ashfield4313 Před 5 měsíci

    Drop that to $1,700 and I'd probably buy it. $2,500 competes with too many things.

  • @EliAngwin
    @EliAngwin Před 5 měsíci

    Well he said it’s like MP5, that definitely justifies 2500$ 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @tacticaltoaster5777
    @tacticaltoaster5777 Před 5 měsíci

    It's not an AR, it's not an MP5, it's a mysterious third thing...

  • @brentchuck1664
    @brentchuck1664 Před 5 měsíci +1

    300 BO would be awesome with a roller delayed system. Will be keeping my eyes on this. Would be sweet if it took standard AR triggers...

  • @sorryociffer
    @sorryociffer Před 5 měsíci

    It's a Hk G41 AR15 lovechild....

  • @TheGunsNBlades
    @TheGunsNBlades Před 5 měsíci

    👍👍🇺🇸

  • @toddparsons2980
    @toddparsons2980 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Well that has to be the coolest thing I've seen from this SHOT. $2,500 though kills it for me.

  • @jakeadair8292
    @jakeadair8292 Před 5 měsíci

    This is the gun in a space warfare game that doesnt have the rights for the weapons. Wtf. We just want an hk33 clone.

  • @joedouche3818
    @joedouche3818 Před 5 měsíci

    I read the comment of $2,500, before the video...... I never watched after that.

  • @davekrueger2852
    @davekrueger2852 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Too expensive!

  • @rapolas91
    @rapolas91 Před 5 měsíci

    easier to clean… press X to doubt

  • @John_Redcorn_
    @John_Redcorn_ Před 5 měsíci

    Roller delayed lighter recoil than a DI rifle? Yeeeah i think not

  • @rebelscumspeedshop
    @rebelscumspeedshop Před 5 měsíci

    10mm( eyebrows raise)

  • @grasunmajjurach5568
    @grasunmajjurach5568 Před 5 měsíci

    👍👍👍⚡⚡⚡🇨🇷🔥🔥🔥

  • @wildcat8598
    @wildcat8598 Před 5 měsíci

    It’s a cool concept but I don’t like the charging handle being in the way of mounting things up front on the end of the pic rail and even the side. Also 2500 bucks? I think I’ll pass.

  • @lfaktore
    @lfaktore Před 5 měsíci

    Um

  • @antonioasaro2807
    @antonioasaro2807 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Didn't 5.56 not function well in roller delayed systems?

    • @AppliedGats
      @AppliedGats Před 5 měsíci +3

      Nah, it’s reliable in the hk 33 series. The stanag prototype had issues in the 60s but the original ar mags were problematic for everyone.

    • @antonioasaro2807
      @antonioasaro2807 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@AppliedGats gotcha, thanks for clarifying

  • @MMARAVILLA64
    @MMARAVILLA64 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Why do gun manufacturers think that consumers have a great deal of interest in rifles more bulbous than an AR? Hmmm.

  • @mcleod_aka_doom1961
    @mcleod_aka_doom1961 Před 5 měsíci

    They need to get some real gun ppl working on this. Could be cool, but it aint there yet.

  • @mmancino1982
    @mmancino1982 Před 5 měsíci

    Cool but..... Why

  • @jasongaudet8719
    @jasongaudet8719 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Wasn't there a company called Zenith who made television back in 70 and 80s 😅😅😅 I know there completely different company's but still

    • @Wolf_Avery
      @Wolf_Avery Před 5 měsíci +1

      I think about the TV my grandparents had when I was a kid everytime I hear the name.

    • @Wolf_Avery
      @Wolf_Avery Před 5 měsíci +1

      I think about the TV my grandparents had when I was a kid everytime I hear the name.

    • @Wolf_Avery
      @Wolf_Avery Před 5 měsíci

      I think about the TV my grandparents had when I was a kid everytime I hear the name.

    • @Wolf_Avery
      @Wolf_Avery Před 5 měsíci

      I think about the TV my grandparents had when I was a kid everytime I hear the name.

    • @pereira.powerhouse
      @pereira.powerhouse Před 5 měsíci +1

      Even more recent than that I had one in college “just” a decade ago lol

  • @aaronskuse2207
    @aaronskuse2207 Před 4 měsíci

    Honestly I think this is a bigger miss than the PTR 63. If I want an AR, I’ll buy an AR. If I want an HK Roller Delay, I’ll buy an HK Roller Delay. Literally no one is manufacturing a proper new production HK-33, and I want one, especially chambered in 300 Blackout.

  • @AmericanGunDad
    @AmericanGunDad Před 5 měsíci +3

    The price is too damn high. It sucks to see a good company that will eventually go bankrupt because of their prices.

  • @krockpotbroccoli65
    @krockpotbroccoli65 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Cool gun. Very uncool price. Nope.

  • @Icarus_Tactical
    @Icarus_Tactical Před 5 měsíci +5

    so it’s a G43 with an mlok hanguard

    • @chrisfs150
      @chrisfs150 Před 5 měsíci

      Doesn't that make it a g43 that no one wants....
      I suspect if they made a hk33 it would sell more than this...

  • @boogerparty
    @boogerparty Před 5 měsíci

    I don't know, seems like a bit of a downgrade from the ZF-1.

  • @Echo_Charlie
    @Echo_Charlie Před 5 měsíci +6

    Was cool of Zenith to make something no one at all wanted or asked for. I will be quite surprised if this is anything other than a colossal failure.

    • @762x69
      @762x69 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Forgotten Weapons never run out of material these past few years..

  • @tonyv6815
    @tonyv6815 Před 5 měsíci

    Finally something interesting/quasi-unique

  • @LtRoastAhoe
    @LtRoastAhoe Před 5 měsíci +2

    Proprietary lower... This could be Canada legal. Americans .ight not pay that much for the platform, but we would.

  • @AlexanderEddy
    @AlexanderEddy Před 5 měsíci

    Make an 18.5 inch version and sell it in Canada!

  • @stug77
    @stug77 Před 5 měsíci

    Guys guys the G41 has been tried, nobody liked it.

  • @jasondalton6182
    @jasondalton6182 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Meh, solving a problem that didn’t exist. Next.

  • @Absolute_Goblin
    @Absolute_Goblin Před 5 měsíci

    Meh. An odd niche but not *my* niche. Next!

  • @laurencefidhburn1845
    @laurencefidhburn1845 Před 5 měsíci

    Nope

  • @longrangevoodoo4480
    @longrangevoodoo4480 Před 5 měsíci +1

    No one wanted this. We want the Hk33. Preferably a pistol variant. Just listen to your customers dude.

  • @alucardthedumbyhead7970
    @alucardthedumbyhead7970 Před 5 měsíci

    It's a hk g41 but not a piece of shit

  • @SMACK1978
    @SMACK1978 Před 5 měsíci

    Loaded mag, optic, and can puts this over ten pounds and you haven’t even added any NV capability 🤷🏽

  • @Bucky69
    @Bucky69 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Gross