Review: Sonic Model AR. Wing
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- I've reviewed a number of FPV wings now and this is perhaps the easiest to fly and quickest to build of all those I've seen. Also check out the discount code (below).
Pros:
- quick "no glue" assembly for the PNF version
- suits a wide range of HD recording cameras
- balances without the need for extra nose-weight
- predictable, docile flight characteristics
- good quality foam (warped wing notwithstanding)
Cons:
- wing was warped (but not too bad)
- black foam is crap in hot summer weather
- could do with more power if you want to race
Summary:
A good option for either the first-time wing-flier or someone looking for a nice stable wing for FPV use that takes just minutes to assemble. I like it.
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I've set a launch mode on my wing using a spare switch on my Taranis that invokes a throttle-elevator mix when the throttle is above 50%. That totally avoids that dip towards ground on launch. I used this for all my hand launches which has improved my launch success from about 60% to 100%. No more fear of hand launches.
Plz share mix info
best wing ever. I bought the RMRC recruit version of it.
I have the FrSky version, Vantac AR Wing Plus with a a bigger 2208 motor and 80 Amp ESC. Plus the fantastic FrSky S6R stabization and autoleveling receiver. What a great flying machine.
Funny and ironic you mention the weather in this video. I just landed in Auckland on a stopover and it is cloudy, maybe even rainy. As we were on the taxi roll to the gate I was thinking about you and commented to myself about when does he ever get a good day to fly. I have only been through here maybe a half dozen times and I do not recall any day with the sun shining. LOL Well with this review done I have more time to kill here in the Air New Zealand lounge so back to the bench, I mean the snacks and more videos!
Thanks Bruce I ordered this bad boy. The esc that came with it sucked but I replaced the motor with the one from my me-163 and its motor. What a beast. Definitely worth the change. Prior it was a bit sluggish but now I cruise at 1/3 throttle and get a long flight time out of it. Now if I could get the crossfire to work with the qx7.
Loved to see you flying again. Nice review.
Jim
Damn you Bruce another purchase I wasn't planning on :)
Nice wing Bruce !! hope you enjoy it alot ....happy skies !!!
I'm in love with this little wing. I put the matek f411 wing with inav I don't use the stability modes but I love the insurance of return to home. it's got a lot of room in the fuselage to do all kinds of things. I bet you can turn it into a stealth bomber and put Bond drop doors underneath you can do it Bruce lol great videos always
I love your reviews and your channel and I follow you since 5 years now.
I didn't miss a video since then Bruce.
Issam
Thank you Bruce
I've had great success tearing up the skies with a 2216 2400kv 6*4 prop setup.
Review more wings! We need your take on the options. That's a nice one. Thanks for your advice.
I was huge fan of that noisy sound . Now im huge fan of 4 blade low kv wooshh sound of my spitfire i love it
I wish wings weren't so damn loud...makes it hard to fly in a lot of public areas without drawing attention or annoying people. Would be nice if a company came out with a 'stealth' wing or something - a wing that turns a big ole' prop much more slowly; or maybe an elevated nacelle. I don't need something that screams 100mph, and I think most people don't as well, just something sufficient for some exploration.
thechosendude
Time to start making your own! I made one recently with the intention of keeping the prop away from the trailing edge. It worked ok but its too big. Back to the drawing board! Try it out though, it is fun making your own wing. Even better when you land it in one piece!
Howdy, on this wing use a sunny sky x2216 1250kv with a 8x6 prop and a 40A esc for +90mph speeds and very, very little noise. Hope that helps, Matt
G'day,
This is my second attempt to answer this, if the earlier one shows up ; then blame YT.
Anything with a Pusher Propeller is stuck with the Propeller Blades having to chop through the Wing's Boundary-Layer Turbulence and Downdraft, crossing from Low Pressure Zone to High Pressure Zone to Low, to High, ad infinitum ad nauseum.
The Frequency of the Tone is set by the number of Blades & RPM...(RPM times 2 for two-bladed, times 4 for four-bladed, and times 6 for three-bladers...).
Increasing a Pusher Prop's diameter to reduce it's RPM simply lets it chop into a wider slice of turbulent Downwash, so that lowers the tone of the Buzz-Saw Drone ; and maybe slightly increases the Sound-Pressure (loudness).
Basically, to muffle the Propeller-Noise of a Flying Wing....; first move the Propeller to the Nose, then buy a Tractor Propeller for it.
Otherwise, like Harley-Davidson Riders and Drivers of V-8 Cars, the "Trick" appears to train oneself to "get off on the sound of all that Power...) ; because the measures involved in making the bloody things shut up amount to building something-else entirely...
Hopefully this Carrier Pigeon makes it...
;-p
Ciao !
Like Matt from #RTNO I put a long shaft dys 2822/1450kv on 7x4 and the sound difference is night and day. You just have to give the prop clearance from the hull is the biggest thing.
I used a motor spacer from a shadow 800 and it helped reduce noise , just needed to put a few coins in the front for CG compensation
Hey Bruce, this looks like a keeper for sure. I like your idea about using it for an iNav platform. Being in the Northwest now, moved from SOCAL in summer I too am looking at lots of rain. Maybe order one for these for winter project. Cheers Mate....
Can't believe how loud that thing is... It's actually louder than your hat... for crying out loud!!!
Awesome! Looks like a stealth bomber! 😎💪💪😊
Its a great kit Bruce.....just built one and waiting for a break in the weather to get it in the air....
Nice demo. I've seen someone fly this wing recently, and I can confirm it handles great at low speeds too. Very stable and can also take a beating. Maybe Sonicmodel can update it with plug in wings, like on the Dart 635mm. If such a system had been fitted, my flying buddy would probably have ordered this one, instead of the 600mm version, which seems quite a bit faster. And might be a bit too much for LoS flying, since it's also smaller.
Great review Bruce. Love your videos. Keep em coming :)
The first land was very very good
I like mine a bunch.... I did move the battery back as I use a Runcam 2 up front.
Thumbs up for the Banggood pun :)
I bet Tim could get a 5Ah lipo in there. Pretty generous space inside.
If it's a blheli_s ESC you can turn on the brake in the configurator.
Love this discharger ! work's well doesn't get hot even on a 6s 5000ma
I kinda wish I had got that one instead of the S800. Now that I have the S800 though I can't justify getting this as well.
Get this as well, S800 is for more speed and acro, AR for more relax flights.
This wing is one of those "just right" designs. It works nicely with no bad habits and everything fits easily. More sweep than other race wings
Thanks for this, sir. Very well done review.
Good review
I do wish that wing had been around when first tried flying wings.
I got to try a well worn and much-modded Skyshadow with intense throws and a complete lack of expo. It scared me, the owner and a fair few fliers around the field.... I haven't flown a wing since..... can't think why :D
I love this Wing...
Great video
I know pusher wings are noisy (I have 3 of them) but wow that thing howls! Due to the thick wing trailing edge (cut off square) straight in front of the prop, I would guess.
Yes, the noise is caused by the prop intersecting the turbulent flow off the back of the wing. Interestingly enough, this is also how sirens work (that explains a lot eh?).
WoooooW
Looks good, and way cheaper than expected. Gearbest is really competing with Banggood lately.
I thought you said you had a 4s battery in there but when I go to the product link it says ESC: 20A 2 - 3S ??
Hahaha , banged "real " Good..your so awesome !
well i think that that is not for fist-time wing-filer because it cost a lot and need some speed. Any way i started with Z-84 and that had similar issues. need lot of speed or its go spin of death :D well now i have three Spirit 600mm, cheap as.... and doesn't need lot of speed to be controlled. Just add tape on wings so it can handle crashes.
Bruce, are you aware that the promotion code can not be used for items shipped to New Zealand. In fact the price goes UP from $NZ125.11 to $NZ149.53 when you apply the code. Just sayin' :-)
looks like you wing has an updated mold. Bigger air inlet and new air outlets...havent noticed that until now..
Slide rule spotted :)
Looks good, but! I like tricopters you should make one :)
I like that model and your video. You mentioned you would change the motor ... how about putting a foldable prop on ... I would also program a break for the ESC.
I'd only bother with a folding prop if I was trying to get maximum endurance out of it... otherwise, simpler is better (IMHO).
The brake is usually programmed by way of using the throttle stick and listening for the appropriate sequence of beeps. Although it varies from ESC to ESC, the sequence for brake activation is pretty common across many different brands and models. I'll see if I can set it on this one and report back.
No a big fan of quality models having wing warps out of the box...i wonder if this is a common issue with these? Pretty easy to fix when carbon is not already gluded in wing..still can be fixed...my first sonic nano sky hunter came with one of the wings much thicker..i spent a couple hours block sanding it to match as best i could..seems to fly well...
Nice T Shirt!
Discount code doesn't work :(
I've emailed them and asked them to check that out.
Upgrade this one Bruce. Stock setup is for babies :D Upgrade for 4S or 6S and you will be in for a ride
great review thanks
Hi thanks for another great Video.
Have just order this wing, after seeing reviews like yours. What motor/ esc would you recommend to get a whole lot of grunt. I will be fitting out with Flight controller and gps so can then push it's range through fpv
If this wing is EPP, would adding amazing goop work as well on this as well as it does on the bonsai?
Ordered one!
Hiya, just saw this, you actually flying from years ago. Maybe you should repost some old footage and see if CASA take the bait. Then after you prove them wrong, fly again and post recent flights, HOW DO THEY KNOW WHEN?
not related at all to this video or product but looking at all that open space you might like to have a ADS-B station ( raspberry pi2) to track airplanes
Been looking at this one for a little now, I've built a few Flite Test wings and would like to have something that will take a hit much better. Curious what size battery you were using and what flight time you got. I noticed from the DVR it looked like you were running 4S. Thanks for the good review!
Yes, I was running a 1800mAH 4S pack.
Is the included esc only 3s?
Included esc does 3s also , I use a 2200 3s and get 10-15 mins
Included esc does 3s also , I use a 2200 3s and get 10-15 mins
So 4s and 3s?
Hi Bruce , any chance you could do a review of the AR Mini 600 mm ? just bought one and a FlySky FS-i6 transmitter , it's all set up and ready to go ...but to be perfectly honest .....I'm shitting myself at the thought of flying it lol , new to fixed wing flying , a few tips on how to control a wing would be most appreciated also , I cant wrap my brain around how these things turn . Climbing and diving is obvious , but seems to me it's only going to roll when you shove the stick to the left or right.
Would a lemon 6 channel with satellite and a firefly s6 action camera with 4s 1300 mah 100c be adequate on this wing ,
Good review, but I hate gearbest..I had several problems with them and the customer support is awful, never again , they lost a customer
If you still want the wing without supporting gearbest, ReadyMadeRC sells a pretty much identical version called the Recruit
What motor would you suggest
The wing tips on this model extend below the main Wing itself, would slicing that lower section off improve performance?
I like this!
Thanks for this review. What motor, prop, battery do you suggest?
Excellent review Bruce..Subscribed. Would love to see your thoughts ( reviews ) on my scratch build models..))
Hi just want to double check, this came with the pagoda antenna and the orange cam included in the box? Thanks for the answer in advance!
My wing wing requires alot of down elevator when inverted yet COG is aok. I assume this is because of reflex in the wing?
I made a mistake and I bought the 600mm one, not the 900mm. Will it be easy (for me beginner) to fly too? Also, do you advice me to install a Matek F411 Wing? I have it.
What a screamer...!!!
How does it compare with the larger HD Wing?
Hi Bruce have a question for ya!!! Is it possible to connect multiple i2c modules together (daisy chain) like mag sonar ect ect???? And can u do a video on this? Thx
I've always wondered how you can tell exactly how much stress these can take, and about the servos and what would be pushing them a bit too hard. I really would love to throw one of my big 2407 2500kv motors on this and upgrade the esc to take 4s-6s. If the body can handle it, how could I tell if 9g servos would be able to take the extra power?
could you make any recommendations on cheap priced but solid flight controllers? i have the same wing and need the fpv gear and everything other than motor, and the esc that came with the wing... can you please make a couple recommendations on what i should use for osd and flight controller? i would love to have a stable wing, and maybe even something that can use gps and return to home and do nice coordinated circled like other wings out there? please help, and thank you soo very much i really appreciate it, i cant wait to hear what you might recommend!! is the runcam mini split 2 a good option for that slot on the wing? thanks in advance..
-peter
What reciever did you use I got 2 of the sonic 600s and a taranis qx7 .wanting a good budget rx .that works good
You was launching with right arm
This might be an off topic question but does anyone know what compression ratio a nitro engine needs? I've searching all over and can not find it and I thought people on this channel could help me.
nice video as always
Nice wing but freaking loud. If its gonna be that loud it should at least do a sonic boom.
does the EPP foam dampen radio signals at all? Can you put the antenna INSIDE it?
Any tips to make it quieter? That sucker is loud!
My throttle does not appear to work on mine. When I power up at full throttle it barely has enough power to move my hand. I'm using stock motor and prop, any thoughts? All servos work and I've tried both a left and right prop just in case
I have a question Bruce; I switched on my transmitter for 1minute with 1 of 2 antennas missing. Can I still trust this transmitter?? Flysky fs-i6x with one stock antenna and one 5db antenna mod which I forgot to screw on.
It's a bit loud.... how can you quiet it down...? Bigger Prop?
that looks like a good wing, how to attach gps to it and to make it go home automatically with gps?
Show us the F1 review!!!
Dose it have good cooling?
would you recommend a 3 axis flight controller be installed
love you
Too much noise for not so high speed. Its brother Sonicmodell F1 Wing is noisy but damn it's is a speed demon!! The one advantage is the big cavity of the AR., while the F1 has not so much room for extra components.
Dude, why the heck are you playing the audio from the runcam while trying to talk? There is no way that thing is that loud that far away from the camera. If it is one of my neighbors would surely take it down with birdshot or go crazy. Heck I might go crazy. I was about to go crazy just watching that part of the clip.
Oh my god is that fpv video sped up how fast is that?
Would ducted propeller help with the speed and the noise?
What do you think about the stock servos? Are they okay?
GearBest has some great models, but their shipping is SO SLOW that I just have a wish list built. Maybe next time it won't be bad. GEARBEST! PLEASE FIX THIS! YOU HAVE THREE QUADS AND TWO PLANES I WANT!
What a screamer that motor is , you can't be discreet on a Sunday morning somewhere . You would think if you get different noses for the plane they would give you a more aerodynamic nose if you don't want to stick a camera in there . See what you mean about the cameraman , oops sorry , not too bad . Nice easy plane for a wing :-)
Did he say "you can fit a cat in there"???
Where can I get something that flies much slower
nice
Why are those things so noisy compared to a minquad?
Dimensions of airfoil used in this wing??
Could you recommend a more powerful motor?
Sabes algo de las gafas eachine EV200D ? Podrias subtitular los videos en español tendria miles de seguidores nuevos
Hi,
I got one of these and built it and balanced it properly I believe but I can’t get it to fly. Everything works accordingly but when I try to launch it it’s like the motor doesn’t have enough power to fly it. I even set my Tx to 150 max throttle. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks
Never mind
what a junkie shop.. wait a minute is that my house???
genious controls chaos ;-)
The nose doesn't look very aerodynamic, would have prefered a transparent dome.
I've done a build video if anybody wants some additional info on the build......