It hurts me that my neighbours who are JWS want nothing to do with me because I had second thoughts about receiving their lessons. After all, I am still a HUMAN BEING.
"The most dangerous of men are those who appear very religious, especially when they are organized and in a position of authority." - Dr. Alberto Rivera, a former Jesuit priest
Your sincerity adds to the importance of your words. You and your husband showed a great deal of courage in order to protect your kids and get out. A childhood of isolation while having so many important parts of your growing up years, taken away, has to be very hard. It's as if your child has to live in fear and disappointment in order to be a respectable JW.
It is wonderful that you were able to come out as a family. When you see how much pain a couple experiences when one wakes up and the other does not, it is just tragic. Your kids can grow up without all the fear
I grew up with a JW, he was a good friend. My parents knew his and all was good. One day his mother decided that he shouldn't have anything to do with me anymore for not being a member of their organisation. Very hurtful that.
So glad you are finally out of that evil organization. I was raised a JW. I too had many unanswered questions. Now at 63 years old I have a true relationship with our savior as a born again Christian. I was baptized as a true Christian one year ago. Remember Jesus said "I am the way". No need for the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society. Good for you!
I'm 15 and I've been out of the JW life for 3 years and let me say I'm so glad that I am! From my personal experience I loved the people there. They're kind and respectful people. There's just some rules that are ridiculous. I highly advice any JWs or non JWs to look at both sides because just looking on the side that you agree on will blind you. Then again it's your life and your decision so do what you want and believe what you want.
I agree Jehovah’s Witnesses are the nicest people ever. They are always there for you no matter people you can trust. I just believe in all their rules. Like the blood transfusions. College is bad behavior.
Me too. I chose "worldly" over right and virtue. It is indeed heady. But it will do us no good when we "go down with the ship" at Armageddon. Eat, drink, and be merry . . .
Who cares about armageddon judgment awaits you after death thats when the fun begins a place of torment and unfullfilled desires awaits all who oppose god and his eternal law which doesnt pass away till the great white throne judgmemt
Thank you so much for sharing. I left JWs a long time ago. I disassociated myself formally with a letter. I was abused in various ways when growing up and all of it was covered up even with threats from my parents that I better not tell anyone what goes on at home. There were lots of cases of abuse going on that I had heard about from my friends in the congregation. It was horrible. The worst of it is that the perpetrators were always protected. My parents kicked me out of our home without warning when I was 18 and told everyone, especially the elders, that I was rebellious in order to cover up what was going on at home and protect their cover up and to protect my uncle, who was a JW and who sexually abused me. All 3 of them died in "good standing" with the organization. I also did research to find out the Society's stand on abuse and couldn't find anything at that time, decades ago. That was convincing enough for me to get out of that cult. I am very glad you and your family got out of it. It's the best thing you could have done for yourselves and your family. I wish you the very best.
What a lovely story... “Questions deserve answers, not more questions”! Thankfully this opened the door for logic & commonsense to shine into your heart. Keep sharing that joy & freedom that you now have in your heart. It’s written all over your face & visible for all to see. Blessings!
You're absolutely right ! I know from personal experience.. As soon as I decided to start thinking for myself I was labeled apostate. Been shunned for 10 yrs.All because I chose a nondenominational church! It took me 20 yrs to wake up & still have my "what if" moments. Few & far between now. If JW's are on these sites it's a good sign that they will start to question & start researching, hopefully! All of us Ex's have walked in their shoes. I want them to know that you can choose to make a great life for yourself after leaving & shunning ! It takes time though. Our lives were turned upside down . I refuse to let that organization take anymore away from me then it already has! The organization holds their members by using fear of Armageddon & shunning.. When you get past those 2 fears, you'll be free of their control & then start the work of deprogramming.. Which is a long road, I found out! There's a ton of support these days .. I had to do it alone.. Thank you all Ex's 🙏👍
@@robertprestwood3902 The JW's are false prophets the bible warned about in Matt 7. 1975 and the generation of 1914 were both false. Proof the governing body is not guided by holy spirit and completely ignores Matt24:36. False prophesies are the "fruits" of false religion. 12 false prophesies over the last century is not the mark of a divinely guided religion. Covering up child molestation and condoning spousal rape are pure evil.
Hello. I am also an ex-JW and I understand all that you are saying. I have been reading some excellent books that I recommend. The first one that I read is called "God without religion" by Andrew Farley. The second one is called "An Outsider's Guide to the Gospel" by Mick Mooney. They both are good. The second one is awesome. It was perfect after reading the first book. Mick Mooney's book absolutely blew up religion and my mind was blown away. After reading these 2 books, I now follow God with all my heart and do so completely without religion. God without religion makes so much sense to me personally. I encourage all people who have managed to escape a cult religion to read these books. Best wishes to you and thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for your video. I admire your strength of character and self-love for leaving the organization. You will inspire others to do the same. This is a brainwashing cult that greatly diminishes the quality of life of its members.
I've known 5 people that we're disfellowshipped over the years.. When you lose a job, whole family, parents,spouses, children' grandkids plus every friend you have in the world, it can be devastating. Every one of them committed suicide! Some of them hadn't even committed a sin, just chose a different belief! Labeled apostate & disfellowshipped! I was born & raised a JW.. Believe me, I know how it works ! And if you are one of the people who do survive, the pain can turn into drug addiction, alcoholism or anything else to numb the pain ! If you are a JW & still shunning, shame on you. That is NOT the teachings of Jesus.. And if you've never been shunned, no need to comment !
All 5 CHOSE to pursue and errant course of of action or to become apostate. They all knew the consequences. What a surprise. Boo Hoo. I am in that state and suffered because of MY own actions. Sorry but I am living with the consequences of my own wrong decisions and behavior. I have no right or reason to cry about how someone else caused me pain or inconvenience.
I love your cool, calm, collected statement of your reasons. It makes total sense of a person who has analyzed the situation in a methodical way and reached a sensible conclusion. I applaud you ! Well done. I wish you the best in your future and that you find an outlet for your worship that suits you best. You have prevented many heartaches by refusing to get involved with Jehovah's Witnesses.
@@anneroberts6634 at least one elder knows. Me, and the ones that I've chosen to tell. Jehovah knows, and there is nothing that anyone can hide from him. You should know that more than anyone!I understand your concern for you, cause apostates are not my favorite people. I've had a few to come in the KH and try to disrupt our meetings. And when approaching them they've tried to get me to touch them. I know the law and it's unlawful to be disruptive at our meetings. Little do you know if you, if you touch one of my brothers or accidentally spit on them while talking, that's an assault. And I'm not quite Jesus yet! I'm more like Peter. I stumbled in my zeal! I fear for my brothers more than myself. I love chicken wings, thighs and legs! It was part of my former training. I'm on a strict diet now. Eating those things I must avoid. But just me touching a wing? I don't know how strong I am. As a former detective, and bouncer, wings and legs was a large part of my diet. I just hope the GB one day would see the need for A Wing Squad!🤤😉
You made the right decision. As an ex member of JW's I know they do not like to be questioned about their beliefs and ideas. I now do not believe in God and atheist in fact. But for couple's like you who seem to have the need to have a God the CofE seems to be the best option. At least they will not stop you having a blood transfusion if you needed it. They also recognise that women can play a important part in the congregation. Many vicars are now women and many higher up can now take part in church decisions. i like you thought about this for many years , having been brought up a JW which I think makes it far harder to come out. But by my late teens I realised I had to come out and have been very happy ever since that I made the right decision.
I gave up on the JW thing well before they consigned the 1914 generation doctrine to old light and I never missed a nights sleep. In fact my sleep improved afterwards. I knew the 1914 generation was going to be yet another 'old light flop', back when I was learning with JW's, as I discovered that 1914 is based on nothing tangible or historical in the real world. The first JW, I was taught by ( a lovely and sincere chap as many JW's are) has also seen the light. He is still the same sincere chap now as he was when I first met him, though it must be a traumatic period for him discovering in the last few years,he has effectively been duped for close to around 40 years. I do believe his adult kids and wife will eventually follow suit also.
I find it quite interesting all of those who comment about you having a lack of faith - I'd say so! Receiving a letter directly from Bethal with absolutely no scriptural explanation SHOULD make anyone's faith in the doctrine go right out the window
Cindy Prichard you can't be but so happy cause you haven't moved own! You still talking about how horrible it was? Tell us how horrible you where! And still crazy after all these years🎹🎸🎷🎻🎺 you quit and still marching around picketing! Be happy with your new job cause each day is one more day closers to what yall been asking. Where is He? End Ha! You know how long yall been saying this time of the end? The doors will shut soon and it won't be a deranged terrorist slamming the doors in a nightclub! This will be a global slamming of invisible angels with one mission! To express Jehovah's anger! And the beautiful thing is this. His great name will be finally sanctified and His Universal Sovereignty will be vindicated!
Your angry god has made you angry. More and more people are leaving the cult you are in. One day, in the kingdom hall it will just be you. Don't forget to turn the lights out when you leave.....
Very interesting I have come to similar conclusions although at the time I did not know about the child abuse scandal. I've seen 2 of Your videos loved them both!
I was born into it. Out for over 20 yrs.Go to a great nondenominational church that teaches as Jesus taught ! I really wish that JW's would stop commenting unless they have done research !! I've been on both sides.. I've done research on both sides. Please JW's just do the research (even though the organization has told you not to put "doubt" in your minds) If you really have faith in what your beliefs are, then nothing will shake it! Then comment all you want ! We are not here to bash your religion. Just trying to help those of us who have done our research & concluded that it's a false religion & we've been misled. You're not even suppose to be looking at these sites.. Your time would be better spent researching ! Love & prayers to you all.
They are not allowed to be educated or do research. That would make them an apostate and possibly shun them (worse yet....the watch tower would lose control over their sheople). All cults, just like and abusive person, cut or seperate people from the world - this seperation enables the watch tower to have tighter control over their sheople. JW, as you know from personal experience, have been trained to respond to questions from the outside world....and their responses or collectively the same....That in itself is a warning sign. Why is it that there are very few organized "religions" that are deemed cults and past members have to be de-programmed? Well, the only two that come to mind are Scientology and JW. Unfortunately, it is hard to see your in a cult just the same thats its hard to see your a drug addict. Both are slaves and are wrapped in denial....its not that either one enjoys their situation, but that it is familiar. For either one to do something different typically requires some form of pain, and most importantly, great faith.
+Reaching Out we disfellow ship people for time until they change! It can be a month, week, days! We dont cause emotional stress by doing so! Your faith was like a feather! Where did it go! It flew away, now go find it!
Actually...not true. My friend, a former JW, was shunned for having sex at 16. He ended up a heroin addict and spent 6 years in prison for grand theft auto. Another friend, Lisa a JW, committed suicide because she was a shunned lesbian. Another female friend, I wont mention name cuz she is alive, shunned and herion addict and prostitute. So, dont give me that shit that acting like someone does not exist (shunning) because they dont do what they are told has not effect. Try doing it to your children for 1 week because they didnt brush their teeth in circular motions. I mean totally ignore them like their dead - dont look at them, respond to then, take to school, cook their meals, hug them, tell them you love them, etc......then come and tell me it has no effect . Its mean, unspirtual, heartless, and CULT LIKE!!!
In 1969, the Watchtower published a reference book called "Aid to Bible Understanding." and on pages 884-885 they explain that to the Jews the speaking of God's name was too holy to say, and so to avoid saying God's Holy name when reading the sacred texts, they added the vowels of "Adonai"( LORD) into the Tetragrammaton "YHWH". Instead the two words put together read: "Yehowah." In 1984 the Watchtower published a brochure called "The DIVINE NAME that will Endure Forever". Here on page 17 they confirm that the first rendering of the word "Jehovah" was put forth by Raymundus Martini a Spanish Monk.Raymundus Martini had published a book in 1270 AD called "Pugeo Fidei" in which he was the first to make up the word "Jehovah" , being his latinized version of this "Yehowah".There has never been a "J" in the Hebrew language. There was no "J" in the English language before the 15th Century. Jehovah is NOT "The" name of God but a man-made invention !
So Paul Pinkard thinks using a name much less of God is not so important eh?....If that is the case then mr.Paul should erase his own name on his birth certicificate and all other documents because he thinks they're all needless & of no use and would rather that people call him as "man" in everyday life.
Wow! Only a month of research and you realized! Back in the days before the internet, before computers, when we left, we thought we were all alone, and at first had doubts, maybe just maybe it really IS God's organization, lol. It took years to get over the abuse, there was no online support in those days, so we each thought we were the only ones, that got df on nonsensical charges, we thought it as unheard of! Now come to find its happened to many! So glad you got out! Grace and peace.
+Sally Peterson Just think of what will happen if you keep on digging: suppose you will discover that the witnesses have the truth anyhow but you just had to dig deeper :and had to have more trust and faith : would you come here and admit that? There is no question that the witnesses cannot answer !
+theonewhoisntme part 1:Did we agree to praise the UN?Conspiracy theorists claim that the Watchtower Society agreed to meet special criteria to “become an NGO”. They say this was part of the application process and included the requirement that they must “print articles praising the UN” to “keep their NGO status”. Is this true? Did the Society have to do anything special or agree to do certain things, to be registered with the DPI?First of all, because the accusers don’t really know what they’re talking about, we must clear up a mistake they all make. We did not agree to “become an NGO” because we already were an NGO. A Non-Governmental Organization (“NGO”) is simply a name for an organization which is not part of a government. The name “NGO” is not only used by the UN. It is a term used all over the world by many different governments. There are an estimated 2 million NGOs in the United States alone, for example. So the Watchtower Society was already an NGO, always has been an NGO, and always will be an NGO.Therefore the accusation, when properly phrased, is: Did the Watchtower Society agree to meet any special criteria to become associated with the DPI?
+afterraincomessun part 2:The answerThe DPI website describes the application process for NGOs to become associated with their office. Must NGOs, like the Watchtower Society, agree to a special list of criteria? Let us see.“Application ProcedureI. For NGOs that are currently NOT associated with DPI:The association process takes three to six months. The DPI Committee on NGOs that decides on association and disassociation meets twice a year, in June/July and December. Interested NGOs that meet the criteria should follow the steps:Send an official letter of request to be associated with DPI, provide a brief description of the organization and at least six samples of recent information materials.”...upon receipt of [these] documents, [we] will determine whether the formal application process for association can proceed.If the NGO Section finds that the NGO meets the criteria, the application form... will be sent to the NGO.”Notice that the first thing an NGO must do to be associated is surprising. They do not fill out an application form. No, the first thing they must do is send them“at least six samples of recent information materials”.Next, the DPI examines the material and decides whether the NGO meets their criteria. In other words, no NGO can say “I agree to meet your criteria”, or “if we are allowed to be associated with you, we will sign a statement agreeing to your criteria.” They can’t, because no such agreement exists. That is not how the application process works.Note that this is the process as of late 2007. So when the DPI has said in recent years that associated NGOs must “support the UN charter” or “share the ideals of the UN”, whether an NGO does this or not is determined by the DPI itself, and no one else. An NGO cannot state they agree to those terms, the DPI itself has the job of deciding if the NGO supports the same ideals as the UN and it’s charter, such as support for human rights, freedom of worship, etc.Only if the DPI decides that the NGO falls within the DPI’s criteria, do they send out an application form and a list of other required materials (such as proof of non-profit status). Evidently, the DPI must have determined that Jehovah’s Witnesses did meet the criteria because of our support for human rights and freedom of religion. So, we could not have “agreed to meet the UN’s criteria” because it doesn’t work that way. It seems, in fact, that an NGO does not have to “agree” to do anything, because the DPI itself examines the NGO and decides whether they meet the criteria or not.Therefore the accusation that the Society had made some sort of legal agreement to “write articles praising the UN” is nonsense. No such agreement exists, nor can it exist. Besides, we published balanced articles on the UN decades before we became DPI associated, and continue to do so, six years after ending the association (see the chapter Awake to Propaganda for more information). If Jehovah’s Witnesses had, for some reason, suddenly stopped writing anything about the UN, the DPI would simply have cancelled the association, like they have with other NGOs. In this case it would be because we would no longer be using the DPI’s facilities, and there would be no point in keeping us on the register.
+theonewhoisntme part3 Step by stepThis is the association process as we understand it from looking at the DPI’s own website:Step 1: An NGO sends copies of their printed articles to the DPI proving they are interested in UN issues and would make good use of their extensive library facilities to educate the public on UN issues.Step 2: A few months later, the DPI will examine the articles and decide whether the NGO appears to share the ideals of the UN charter, that it isn’t racist, etc. They probably also decide whether the NGO is big and important enough to make good and proper use of their facilities, such as their conferences and film screenings, etc, which would be wasted resources on insignificant NGOs.Step 3: Upon deciding that the NGO is suitable for association, the DPI sends the NGO an application form to complete and return, along with a list of any other materials they need.Step 4: The NGO completes the application form. This did not require a signature back in 1991 when the Watchtower Society became associated, nor did it mention anything about “supporting the UN charter”, etc. (the scans sections has a copy of this form)Step 5: The DPI receives the completed application form and related materials back (like proof of non-profit status, etc). Once processed, the DPI issues library access passes to the NGO’s representatives.This completes the application process. There is no “agreement” or contract stipulating what the NGO has to do from that point onwards. Provided the NGO remains within the DPI’s guidelines for associated NGOs, then the association will continue. That is why no signature was needed on the old 1991 application form, nor on the old accreditation forms.Later, however, it becomes time to complete a new accreditation form (a copy of this is in the scans section) and to supply articles to the UN as proof that they have indeed used the DPI’s facilities. If the NGO cannot produce any such proof, they would be removed from the DPI’s NGO association register due to lack of use. No agreement to do anything was necessary or required.
NO ONE needs 'religion' ! All you need is Yeshua/Jesus to be your Messiah and Saviour and by confessing with the mouth that He is the living Son of the Almighty Creator and believing in your heart Yeshua/Jesus died for ALL of us and ACCEPTING the FREE offer of everlasting life and the unimaginable joy, peace and LOVE that He is.
Good video keep them up :-) 01:28 yes and The Watchtower has made many changes without scriptural backing, dozens of times in the past. For example, Russell preached that Christ's Return occurred in 1874. This was changed to 1914 by Judge Rutherford in the Watchtower 1932 Nov 1 p.325 without any scriptural backing. In the Proclaimer's Book, they state that the change from 1874 to 1914 happened in 1943. In my opinion they do not reference The Watchtower 1932 as it wasn't until 1943 that the organization actually attempted to reference the Bible to explain why the change was made to 1914. For more information Google _"1914 : Failed Watchtower Prophecy"_ there is a full page with references explaining this 03:41 yes the God as presented by The Watchtower is a vindictive, cruel, manipulative personality. A god with a man's ego.
Steve Smith well jumping in the Freezer in a Hell Fire suite on! Here's another Russell19141975guy. 1you where not there! 2 you probably wasn't there in 1975. 3 your info has either come from your evil network of Why in the world capee dia. And you have no sense. You read that hate junk more than reading the Bible! You have crazy, insane poison, in you so what's in your Heart?
You look and sound like such a kind and sweet person and obviously after watching your video a very responsible and aware mother! I'm really so happy for you because the Jehovah's Witnesses will slowly create fear in you and your family about the Armageddon which would grow throughout time since they repeat this constantly, then they will require you to shun or not speak to anyone that has been excommunicated from their religion or that is not of their religion. Just those two things will add significant fear and a break-up of your family and future friends should your children grow up disinterested in their religion or not obey their laws. You have no idea how much grief you've saved yourself and your family! I have been through so much with this religion that I couldn't even attend my father's funeral today without their shunning and just left early. This is one tiny example of an entire lifetime of this! You DON'T need any human being to enable you to be closer to God, you only need love and appreciation which you obviously already have!
Like you I left them when they changed their minds about the generation of 1914. I remembered that before telling us the news, they launched some articles in the watchtower magazine asking us to be obedient and accept changes because the light was getting lighter and lighter.
No, I cannot possibly understand EVERYTHING in the Bible but if I have a question I'll seek a trusted commentary or find answers from a trusted pastor. Blessings Miguel.
Nobody can, that's why there's so many different denominations and cults like JW. Oh, but it's the word of God. You'd think God would do a better job at making his "word" understandable to all.
The generations thing I think was a game changer for a lot of people. "Overlapping" generations is not "THIS generation shall not pass" at all, overlapping means 2 generations and THIS means one.
+D.W. Atwood The overlapping generations piece was it for me, and the fact that the understanding of what Jesus meant by generations keeps changing so I stopped in 2010 I think. Almost an insult to the intelligence...
dmcarden instead of the generation pass away thing you should be thankful and wait on Jehovah you selfish betrayer. What made you think that Jehovah is going to change because of you? The Stewards Job is to feed food at the right time. And no one or two are the Great Crowd. There are others and the Master Jesus knows what he is doing. How could you pray for Jehovah's Holy Spirit for understanding and endurance and then reject it? Selfishly serving for yourself. Just like the Jews complaining cause They didn't like the FOOD after saving them from the Egyptians. Thank you Jehovah for fooling me with them they ain't yo people cause you sent them to trick me to fool me to give me rules you said to benefit me but they were not. I have listen to people are my real friends now I can do things that YOU AND THEM stopped me from doing and that makes me soooooo happy now I don't pray to you I say your name now with such disdain now so YOU and Jesus need to just forget about me and I'm sure you will! This is what all of you are saying But JEHOVAH AND JESUS WONT FORGET!
Thank you for your video. It is good to think and learn and question. Try reading the 4 Agreements not for spiritual ideas but for the idea of making agreements that allow one to express self determination and one's authentic self as a changing evolution of life. I am not a member this cult nor ever have been but I have family members that are.
Well done. I feel just the same and just like you when you start to do research on the organisation, oh my goodness you open a huge can of dirty stinking worms. Well done for waking up.
Im surprised not one of your points touched on the fact that they organization attempted to predict the end of the world 3 times.. 1914, 1925 then 1975.. Three failed attempts is more than enough to concern someone.
+Jae Melo - There are actually TEN failed Armageddon predictions (that I've counted officially) in their publications. Some of the things this religion still tries to defend (or sweep under the carpet) are just mind-boggling.
Jae Melo 25 years. The only saving grace is that I had an unbelieving father. I actually shudder when I think about how I might have turned out if both parents subscribed to this false religion. I don't know where I'd be today. The ironic part? He became a Witness shortly before I left. Go figure!
I studied with JW years ago. One of their main premises is that the body and the soul are one and the same. However, this belief is contradicted by Jesus himself, when he told his disciples not to be afraid of people who can kill the body but cannot kill the soul, to instead be afraid of the One who can kill BOTH [meaning two] the body AND the soul. Furthermore, the bible teaches to avoid the consumption of blood. However, it also teaches not to murder. So if one of their children needs a blood transfusion, they'd opt to have their children die. In my opinion the bible is clearly referring to eating blood, not to receiving a blood transfusion, which is not eating blood. There are other issues where JW are dead wrong, which is why I prefer not to be a JW.
Darryl Ruiz Quite true! But if you have an illness that will definitely kill you, and only a blood transfusion will keep u alive, what's the big deal? The blood is not consumed as food; it's taken as medicine. Today the blood is screened for all kinds of illness causing agents. Sure there are no guarantees. But that's true for most therapies. I prefer that my child, who may have a cancer or other illness that requires transfusions to give him a chance, to get the transfusion even if it will add just one more second of life.
+Miguel Rodriguez doesn't say in the bible the soul that sin it will die and who doesn't sin? when jesus told his disciples not to be afraid of the ones who kill the body and the soul on the gehenna which means the second death were is not resurrection.
Miguel Rodriguez I'm just curious about something how many children have you had that needed a blood transfusion? I know 4 that said No and there parents said no and fought a court order and won! Those kids are not kids now two of the have their own kids now. One is in New York and the Other one is in the Republic of Great Britain. How many kids have did because of selfish people ignore Doctors about blowing smoke in the air? 🖇📌🔇👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂quiet please.
Hi. I'm researching, I'm trying to find good videos for Jw. All I'm stumbling on is detrimental, disturbing videos. I'm a Christian. I'm looking as my friend is being drawn in more and more by these Jw. Now I'm getting worried. Any advice would be very much appreciated ! At first I was worried they wanted his money, but the more I see and hear the more worried I get.
+Nimzomyth68 I did when he first went to a meeting, they also go to his house. I'm trying my best without pushing him closer to them. Thanks for the concern. Have a good day x
+emsie76 I hate to be a pessimist, but the fact is, no one goes where they don’t want to go. Your friend is not being “drawn in” as you say, they are going in the direction they’ve chosen. I’ve had numerous online “debates" with JW’s which objectively, were won decisively, and yet was unsuccessful at changing anyone’s mind. For this reason, I’m not sure that any amount of wrangling over doctrine will avail anything at this point. But If your friend hasn’t yet been fully _assimilated_, then it may still be possible to reach them by exposing the organization itself which can be done quite easily and effectively, but you’ll need to educate yourself. The best and easiest way to expose the Watchtower is by demonstrating; 1 The Watchtowers persistent misrepresentation of church history. 2 The fact that the Watchtower has claimed inspiration for itself, despite assertions to the contrary, and yet has made predictions which have failed to materialize over and over again. For the first point, I would recommend J.N.D. Kelly’s work _”Early Christian Doctrines.”_ I recommend this resource because Kelly is often quoted (albeit out of context) by the Watchtower, so they acknowledge him as an authority. It’s not an easy read, but you don’t have to read the whole thing. In chapter iv, _The Divine Triad_, he shows that the belief in the eternality, and full ontological equality of Christ with the Father was the all but universal belief of the church for the first three centuries. In chapter v, _Third-Century Trinitarianism_, he shows that by the third century, *_100 years before the Trinity was supposedly invented by Nicaea_*, the doctrine of the Trinity was already solidifying. The Watchtower has lied, and continues to lie to it’s people about these things, and armed with this knowledge, it can be demonstrated. It’s important to remember though that you’re not trying to prove the deity of Christ, only that the Watchtower has lied to its members about what the early church believed. For the second point, I would recommend this website: corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/part-1-why-so-many-false-alarms.html If you click on the link _What Is A False Prophet_, it takes you to a section which shows beyond disputation that the Watchtower has in fact, claimed to be a prophet to the point of being inspired, and yet has made false prophecy after false prophecy. My experience with JW’s is that they have no response whatsoever when confronted with this information. Hopefully you can reach your friend with it in time. Blessings..
Thank you for your informative video. So are you now with another religious group? If not, did you decide to remain Christians or decided something different? Just curious and I'm sure the other viewers are also. Thanks
you'll never get your answers questions that you asked you will get disfellowshipped I wasn't even baptized but I married a man that wasn't a JW years ago I'm pregnant come home from with every run everybody around the kitchen table to disassociate not to come back to the Kingdom Hall I was okay with that I was sad for my mother because she never got to go that she is now my brother and sister was happy not to go back my father was in the JW that we would not be baptized until 18 years of age and make our own decisions thank you Dad because all I've heard from the 1960 that the end is coming get ready for it the demons can come into your bedroom the demons are everywhere to scare the crap out of you I'm done with it and yes it's false it's an occult
they were 4 red flags but not reasons to leave ,you have a bible and why didnt you test JWs beliefs out with other Christian with an open mind ,the truth will not kill you
I think your points are valid and I can understand why you would leave a cult like this. The question I have is did you also leave Jehovah, or are you still reading the Bible and following Jesus? I'm under the impression that a lot of former witnesses no longer believe in God.
+William Hardin As to whether the bible supports Jesus being God is contradictory, The support is mostly found in the book of John, He is called 'son of man' so often in the bible. The council of Nicea pronounced him God. Since when does God leave His affairs to a committee of men?
I just want to say that JW never once said they were perfect and everyone saying Lord Lord will not enter. Just because some in the congregation did something bad does not mean all JW are bad, but I will say we are living in satans world, he does not want us to find the true God, so he will keep our minds blinded toward what is right, remember in noah's day no one believed him, and who survived. God is a God that cannot lie and he promised a perfect world.
relying on God to guide your own personal path, follow His Son's life, commands etc..by constant prayer and bible reading, is much more difficult, than to blindly follow a so-called spiritual man, group, that want or need to create their own disciples. look how many times the org. has made wrong choice's in God's name, disassociated, or worse, disfellowshipped some who disagreed with their rendering of scripture, than some time later, the org. changes their minds on subject, Do they reinstate those they punished, "NEVER" they remain in their judgement not because they were wrong, but because they would not submit to the org's. thinking at the time. False Teachers
A friend is the head of an Intensive Care Unit, he tells me while in front of other JWs they say they don’t want blood transfusions - all of them accept transfusions if their life is in the line.
The crazy thing is that we are told to go to the elders for help if we have a problem but the elders are not allowed to be open minded, they have no choice but to follow the WBTS opinions. So to talk to the elders about blood transfusions and to shed light on the matter is pointless. They will not do their own research on the matter.
Thank you for your response. I hope this finds you well and healthy. I shall take a look at the site. I posted the link of the inside story the other night but he wouldn't watch it. Thanks for all your help and time x
Look at the list of Governing Body members, Askenazi Germans that includes CT Russell himself. Remember the first editions of the magazine were called "ZION'S WATCHTOWER". RUSSELL, SUITER, KNORR, FRANZ, SWINGLE, HENSCHEL, FINKLE, ect
Actually the soul is transported around the body through the blood-it carries the life force. I guess to accept another's blood is to accept their transgressions/memories too-like residual energy. That's why Jews don't do it..
Bert//. The bible is not clear about much of anything. The bible writers know nothing about modern medicine and what it can do. By following 2000 year old ignorance, you lose!
That was clear to me. Then the GB decided Witnesses could have blood fractions. That's blood...and splitting hairs! That didn't sit well with me at all and was one of the main reasons I left.
Your choice is what you have to live with. Child abuse has to do with individuals, not the organization. No one tells you Not to take on higher education. your choice! Yes I did not understand the generation doctrine either, but who is really trying to help us understand Bible truths? Just because something is not totally clear, we leave it? Sounds like the disciples that left Jesus when he said "Eat my flesh and drink my blood." And speaking of blood, if God said don't eat/drink/take blood. Who is man to tell us otherwise? Isn't Faith in Jehovah better than the best surgeon? It's your choice....I am sorry you are not going to the meetings because of that. There is so much more you learned vs. what makes you doubt.
If you bite your tongue while eating and your tongue bleeds that means you sinned, at least going by your logic. Therefore the blood transfusions shouldn't be considered a sin because it makes absolutely no sense. As for the higher education it depends, in my observation the elders' children are allowed to do whatever they want including higher education but the other children are peer pressured not to and if they do they get bullied and criticized.
No that's not my logic. That's yours. If you eat blood from an animal not properly bled. That was a sin. In Acts Paul said they should abstain from blood, hence eat /drink. I try not to confuse people, the Bible is not trying to trick us.
Sorry but you're wrong and you're missing the point. I'm going by your logic that drinking/taking blood is a sin. Therefore if you bite your tongue and it bleeds that equals sin going by your rules of no blood. Do you have the ability to think? This no blood rule is asinine.
Foxy. I will try to explain it from the Bible viewpoint. Not mine. Blood means life, and it was commanded to be poured out before the animal was eaten. Blood was not to be eaten. If you got cut yourself and sucked your cut or bit your lip and drank YOUR blood that is not the same. You are not to drink blood eat blood from another soul. The blood means life. This is not my logic, this belongs to GOD. If you read it I will be happy to give you the scriptures to help you see what God wants. Not me.
If you have your Bible handy, you will see God told the Israelites that blood is sacred. In Leviticus 17:14 he said the soul is its blood. Which means if the blood were to run out of our body we should die. I can see this subject is dear to your heart. Rest assured I, nor any Sane person would allow their child die due to blood refusal. But there are alternatives to blood usage. I ask that you see and hear it for yourself. www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/blood-transfusion-alternative-strategies/
I had a friend who lived in a larger city and often she had Jehovah's Witnesses come to her door time and time again. It was suggested to her that should they come around in the winter time she should give them each a golf ball!!! WTHH I thought that was the dumbest advice anyone can give! My gf tried it and within 2 months and there after she never saw another Jehovah's Witness ever come to her door again. It was to imply that a JW would put a golf ball into their gloves so that they wouldn't get cold fingers/hands from knocking on doors in freezing weather yet when they used the golf balls to knock on the doors it would make their knocking so much louder that when the homeowner came to the door he/she would be so ticked off by the loud door banging they wouldn't give a JW one second to explain why they were there. Instead the JW's would walk away after a verbal blasting from the home owner! Where I live is very rural and I have yet to see one JW come out even near where I live or else I would also give them some golf balls!
Natasha-I have to disagree with you on this bashing of ones religion. Thats because our lives are at stake. If lives were not at stake then it would not matter what religion one believed in..If kool ade was going to be served at the kingdom hall this Sunday because the watchtower felt that they were going under and I knew about what this kool ade drinking would mean , would I be wrong to tell you not to go? It would be my God given duty to inform you.If saving your life from this kool ade party is bashing, then I say let the bashing begin. We all need bashing at times.
+Miguel Castellanos Do you know you can be disfellowshipped for commenting on this Apostate website? You are conversing with Apostates! The brothers at Bethel monitor these sites and now they have your name. Good luck at your judicial hearing!
+jwpublisher1 Judical meeting? I would not give them that privilege.I left 10 years ago.This was after 32 years of this control nonsense.By the way why are you on here? Are you an apostate or spying? It really does not matter.I am 79 years of age so what can them not speaking to me mean. They no longer come here and they still have not df me.I think they are scared because I sent a letter of diass.ote to them and they brought it back saying that they feel I was angry at the time I wrote it. I still have the letter. That was 10 years ago. In that letter I had stated that I had in my procession information that I received from the UN. Maybe that's it. I really do not care either way.
Well, if the WT told you to drink it, you would have to OR you would be shunned. The WT (all old ass white dudes with only 1 minority no women....cuz women have ZERO say) IS the law.....not Jehovah or Jesus or their own bible. Thus....a cult.
Bill Westhoff yeah what is she doing that's so wonderful now for them. A lifestyle back into the dungeon of Satan's world where hope is diminishing each day! Where Man will Make It All Great Again! You talk about the Prince of Peace! and then reject His appointment as King of Jehovahs Kingdom! Why? Your pride will not let you. You would have to admit your wrong teaching, beliefs, lifestyles. And only the honest hearted humble ones can do that. For you Clergy Guys your money, your position, your haughty pride and elevated sense of yourself cannot allow that. You could not admit that the Trinity is a falsehood even many see that for themselves. You could never admit that you lived a lie! But guess what? many has! And walked away from the Harlots and has stayed away. These ones has seen and accepted the truth. They didn't come to serve Jehovah out of selfishness. They learned what the love of God means. And they know what salvation is and endurance to the end will be granted to them. They love Jehovah God from their hearts and serve him for not a date in mind but eternity. Even though we know that in the Bible that salvation belong to a few, because of their obedience, it's sad for you that you refuse to humble yourself and be taught by the only one who will save you.
Amen! I use to study with the JW over 38 year ago, I also found them to be totally off scripture. I am so glad you did your reserch and found the to leave. Just don't give up on God for He has not given up on you. keep your faith in Him not denomination.
? miguelito if your going to ask a question make it a full question.. thanks . this is not facebook if you like to learn i would be glad to teach you.. if not go back to facebook.
+Miguel Castellanos jwfacts.com but beside this Web site that I just came across. hundreds of Scripture were change. now I don't want to get into an argument. he said she said. because we are talking about eternity. so it's bigger then just this and that. but take a KJV. and the Jehova.witness bible. and do your own study. be bless.
Having been involved in the religion for years but don't go anymore I can relate to this woman's concerns ,the facts are if it is a life and death situation I would take any steps nessecery to preserve life ,however blood transfusions are a risky business and most of the UK blood comes from the USA and it's only screened in batches and certain diseases in the blood won't show up in screening ,it can lay dormant ,also your situation doesn't have to be life threatening for them to give you a blood transfusion ,most are carried out as a precaution if you have a low blood count or low in iron like my friend's wife who was given 4 transfusions for an iron deficiency but it wasn't life threatening ,but as I say under certain circumstances I would do what I needed to do
She says JW is bad for us, yet she does not state the problem nor does she put forward any argument. She just plainly rambles about saying the same thing over and over again for 5 min with no substance at all.
You don't understand the problems that the organisation has with child abuse, you should get to know these things and if you still remain as a JW, then you need to make an effort to try to make things better.
Mike Gingell, I know of rapists and child abusers that did NOT get kicked out, so exactly what is your point? Oh I forgot you dont have a point! Just accept your cult is flawed in a disgusting way and do something about it. Do the innocent children of your cult a favor and request the disgusting GB policies be changed!
I love it when this apologists run out of lame excuses and start insulting. Give me facts, blah, blah blah is for idiots. Your GB is heartless, soulless, evil. They will be destroyed by the true and only God: JEHOVA!
"It is important, then, that you "keep testing whether you are in the faith," as Paul declared. Keep checking to see whether the things you believe are in keeping with God's Word. But the question is, Are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination. And if what you believe is not in keeping with the Bible, then you should welcome the truth, because it leads to light and life." (Watchtower 1958 May 1 p.261 Is Your Religion the Right One?)
Only my dad was JW (left after panorama special) but being told about armageddon at the height of nuclear fear in 80s made me terrified all the time but also being told there were invisible demons around left deep psychological problems .
I am a 12 year old Jehovah's Witness and I really love it. Leaving this family would be the worst decision ever. Nobody can convince me to leave nor will they. I hope people will come to their senses and come back to the family because Jehovah truly loves and cares about you :)
+Arianna Graceffa And Jehovah loves you whether or not you are a member of any church or cult. If it works for you, then work it. It obviously does not work for everyone, so they should leave and find something more suitable.
+Arianna Graceffa - Right now your religion's Governing Body have been caught by the Australian Royal Commission in covering up 1,006 cases of child rape involving little girls your age and younger. It's not a lie, it's not false information. It's fact. So we don't know to come our senses.
❤Thanks there are many reasons for leaving the Jehovah’s witnesses ❤ They are still in the kingdom of darkness because the watchtower won’t allow them call on the Lord Jesus for salvation and forgiveness because salvation is only found in the name of the Lord Jesus Acts 4:12 ❤There are only 2 groups in God’s word Saved or still lost
fellow sister what u fail to realize is you have to let Jehovah handle things and trust me I know it can be hard some times but God never fails all well wishes
+Snax The Grate What you really mean is to let the WT handle things. God gave you a brain to think with and He does not want you turning that function over to any other group of men.
Is the channel Atheist friendly? I was raised one of Jehovah's Witnesses but no longer want any part of it, so would these people be accepting of me, or shun me like other former witnesses?
It hurts me that my neighbours who are JWS want nothing to do with me because I had second thoughts about receiving their lessons. After all, I am still a HUMAN BEING.
"The most dangerous of men are those who appear very religious, especially when they are organized and in a position of authority." - Dr. Alberto Rivera, a former Jesuit priest
Your sincerity adds to the importance of your words. You and your husband showed a great deal of courage in order to protect your kids and get out. A childhood of isolation while having so many important parts of your growing up years, taken away, has to be very hard. It's as if your child has to live in fear and disappointment in order to be a respectable JW.
It is wonderful that you were able to come out as a family. When you see how much pain a couple experiences when one wakes up and the other does not, it is just tragic. Your kids can grow up without all the fear
SJ Bobkins you mist the point of it all. You proud.
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I grew up with a JW, he was a good friend. My parents knew his and all was good. One day his mother decided that he shouldn't have anything to do with me anymore for not being a member of their organisation. Very hurtful that.
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So glad you are finally out of that evil organization. I was raised a JW. I too had many unanswered questions. Now at 63 years old I have a true relationship with our savior as a born again Christian. I was baptized as a true Christian one year ago. Remember Jesus said "I am the way". No need for the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society. Good for you!
too bad the so call christians don't worship the only true god JEHOVA .
Just ask if .you and your new religious group patronising and promoting the anti covid19 vaccines as what the jw's and other religious groups did?
I'm 15 and I've been out of the JW life for 3 years and let me say I'm so glad that I am! From my personal experience I loved the people there. They're kind and respectful people. There's just some rules that are ridiculous. I highly advice any JWs or non JWs to look at both sides because just looking on the side that you agree on will blind you. Then again it's your life and your decision so do what you want and believe what you want.
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I agree Jehovah’s Witnesses are the nicest people ever. They are always there for you no matter people you can trust. I just believe in all their rules. Like the blood transfusions. College is bad behavior.
@@gracebediako1666 Dream on , their rules kill . College rocks , education is the best, WT is crap.
They are cult, watch how they treat people when they ask questions
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Ask questions and find out how fast they'll mark you as an apostate and disfellowship you! Just for asking a question!
So glad you left that cult. Leaving them when I was 17 was the best thing I ever did. I'm 49 now, and have been enjoying "the world" ever since.
Me too. I chose "worldly" over right and virtue. It is indeed heady. But it will do us no good when we "go down with the ship" at Armageddon. Eat, drink, and be merry . . .
@@robertprestwood3902 And just when is this Armageddon to happen? 1975? 1914? There have been so many prophesies by the JW's I have lost track.
Who cares about armageddon judgment awaits you after death thats when the fun begins a place of torment and unfullfilled desires awaits all who oppose god and his eternal law which doesnt pass away till the great white throne judgmemt
Thank you so much for sharing. I left JWs a long time ago. I disassociated myself formally with a letter. I was abused in various ways when growing up and all of it was covered up even with threats from my parents that I better not tell anyone what goes on at home. There were lots of cases of abuse going on that I had heard about from my friends in the congregation. It was horrible. The worst of it is that the perpetrators were always protected. My parents kicked me out of our home without warning when I was 18 and told everyone, especially the elders, that I was rebellious in order to cover up what was going on at home and protect their cover up and to protect my uncle, who was a JW and who sexually abused me. All 3 of them died in "good standing" with the organization. I also did research to find out the Society's stand on abuse and couldn't find anything at that time, decades ago. That was convincing enough for me to get out of that cult. I am very glad you and your family got out of it. It's the best thing you could have done for yourselves and your family. I wish you the very best.
Glad for you to be out, no more boring meetings!
What a lovely story... “Questions deserve answers, not more questions”! Thankfully this opened the door for logic & commonsense to shine into your heart. Keep sharing that joy & freedom that you now have in your heart. It’s written all over your face & visible for all to see. Blessings!
I feel your pain and totally respect your decision to leave. Respect to you and your family.
Had a visit from them to my door 3 weeks ago a male and female, I had an answer for everything they tried to bullshit me with. They left deflated.
You're absolutely right ! I know from personal experience.. As soon as I decided to start thinking for myself I was labeled apostate. Been shunned for 10 yrs.All because I chose a nondenominational church! It took me 20 yrs to wake up & still have my "what if" moments. Few & far between now. If JW's are on these sites it's a good sign that they will start to question & start researching, hopefully! All of us Ex's have walked in their shoes. I want them to know that you can choose to make a great life for yourself after leaving & shunning ! It takes time though. Our lives were turned upside down . I refuse to let that organization take anymore away from me then it already has! The organization holds their members by using fear of Armageddon & shunning.. When you get past those 2 fears, you'll be free of their control & then start the work of deprogramming.. Which is a long road, I found out! There's a ton of support these days .. I had to do it alone.. Thank you all Ex's 🙏👍
20 years! THATS UNSPEAKABLE!
But NOT all of US that are former JWs chose the course of apostate Evil Slaves. Even through my guilty actions I still know and recognize The Truth.
@@robertprestwood3902 The JW's are false prophets the bible warned about in Matt 7. 1975 and the generation of 1914 were both false. Proof the governing body is not guided by holy spirit and completely ignores Matt24:36. False prophesies are the "fruits" of false religion. 12 false prophesies over the last century is not the mark of a divinely guided religion. Covering up child molestation and condoning spousal rape are pure evil.
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Hello. I am also an ex-JW and I understand all that you are saying. I have been reading some excellent books that I recommend. The first one that I read is called "God without religion" by Andrew Farley. The second one is called "An Outsider's Guide to the Gospel" by Mick Mooney. They both are good. The second one is awesome. It was perfect after reading the first book. Mick Mooney's book absolutely blew up religion and my mind was blown away. After reading these 2 books, I now follow God with all my heart and do so completely without religion. God without religion makes so much sense to me personally. I encourage all people who have managed to escape a cult religion to read these books. Best wishes to you and thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for your video. I admire your strength of character and self-love for leaving the organization. You will inspire others to do the same. This is a brainwashing cult that greatly diminishes the quality of life of its members.
Good for you and your partner you quitted that crazy religion! It takes a lot of guts doing it!
I've known 5 people that we're disfellowshipped over the years.. When you lose a job, whole family, parents,spouses, children' grandkids plus every friend you have in the world, it can be devastating. Every one of them committed suicide! Some of them hadn't even committed a sin, just chose a different belief! Labeled apostate & disfellowshipped! I was born & raised a JW.. Believe me, I know how it works ! And if you are one of the people who do survive, the pain can turn into drug addiction, alcoholism or anything else to numb the pain ! If you are a JW & still shunning, shame on you. That is NOT the teachings of Jesus.. And if you've never been shunned, no need to comment !
All 5 CHOSE to pursue and errant course of of action or to become apostate. They all knew the consequences. What a surprise. Boo Hoo. I am in that state and suffered because of MY own actions. Sorry but I am living with the consequences of my own wrong decisions and behavior. I have no right or reason to cry about how someone else caused me pain or inconvenience.
Good for you for seeing the JW for what they are.
I love your cool, calm, collected statement of your reasons. It makes total sense of a person who has analyzed the situation in a methodical way and reached a sensible conclusion. I applaud you ! Well done. I wish you the best in your future and that you find an outlet for your worship that suits you best. You have prevented many heartaches by refusing to get involved with Jehovah's Witnesses.
Thelma Jean Hart-Danckert and enjoy your current heartaches now. Cause what's ahead you ain't going to like it!
@@j.wat.3437 Do the elders know you are on this site?
@@anneroberts6634 at least one elder knows. Me, and the ones that I've chosen to tell. Jehovah knows, and there is nothing that anyone can hide from him. You should know that more than anyone!I understand your concern for you, cause apostates are not my favorite people. I've had a few to come in the KH and try to disrupt our meetings. And when approaching them they've tried to get me to touch them. I know the law and it's unlawful to be disruptive at our meetings. Little do you know if you, if you touch one of my brothers or accidentally spit on them while talking, that's an assault. And I'm not quite Jesus yet! I'm more like Peter. I stumbled in my zeal! I fear for my brothers more than myself. I love chicken wings, thighs and legs! It was part of my former training. I'm on a strict diet now. Eating those things I must avoid. But just me touching a wing? I don't know how strong I am. As a former detective, and bouncer, wings and legs was a large part of my diet. I just hope the GB one day would see the need for A Wing Squad!🤤😉
Same with me with the blood issue. When I was in the hospital, I never signed anything! I wanted to be there for my child!
The day I graduated from college was the day JW sisters were "no longer in consideration" for dating or marriage unless if they had a degree like me!!
Well done, good for you and very articulate about leaving.
You made the right decision. As an ex member of JW's I know they do not like to be questioned about their beliefs and ideas.
I now do not believe in God and atheist in fact. But for couple's like you who seem to have the need to have a God the CofE seems to be the best option. At least they will not stop you having a blood transfusion if you needed it. They also recognise that women can play a important part in the congregation. Many vicars are now women and many higher up can now take part in church decisions.
i like you thought about this for many years , having been brought up a JW which I think makes it far harder to come out. But by my late teens I realised I had to come out and have been very happy ever since that I made the right decision.
Love your post. Thank you! And good for you and your family.
Good for you! Thankfully you have a mind of your own and you are smart enough to use it. So many do not.
I gave up on the JW thing well before they consigned the 1914 generation doctrine to old light and I never missed a nights sleep. In fact my sleep improved afterwards.
I knew the 1914 generation was going to be yet another 'old light flop', back when I was learning with JW's, as I discovered that 1914 is based on nothing tangible or historical in the real world.
The first JW, I was taught by ( a lovely and sincere chap as many JW's are) has also seen the light. He is still the same sincere chap now as he was when I first met him, though it must be a traumatic period for him discovering in the last few years,he has effectively been duped for close to around 40 years. I do believe his adult kids and wife will eventually follow suit also.
Alarm bells started ringing for me the day I read Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus was the angel Michael. .
It's based on reading of 1 These 4:16. The Lord Jesus is mentioned of having an archangel's voice. The text clearly is talking about Christ.
I find it quite interesting all of those who comment about you having a lack of faith - I'd say so! Receiving a letter directly from Bethal with absolutely no scriptural explanation SHOULD make anyone's faith in the doctrine go right out the window
Bless your heart!! God loves you!!
Thank goodness for using logic and common sense. Good for you.
Congrats on your escape. It seems to me only the strong-minded, truth-seekers have the courage to flee this cult. Been out for 22 years and loving it!
Nope, religion and true freedom don't mix.
loving to sinn lol
+Froy Gonza ikr
Cindy Prichard you can't be but so happy cause you haven't moved own! You still talking about how horrible it was? Tell us how horrible you where! And still crazy after all these years🎹🎸🎷🎻🎺 you quit and still marching around picketing! Be happy with your new job cause each day is one more day closers to what yall been asking. Where is He? End Ha! You know how long yall been saying this time of the end? The doors will shut soon and it won't be a deranged terrorist slamming the doors in a nightclub! This will be a global slamming of invisible angels with one mission! To express Jehovah's anger! And the beautiful thing is this. His great name will be finally sanctified and His Universal Sovereignty will be vindicated!
Your angry god has made you angry. More and more people are leaving the cult you are in. One day, in the kingdom hall it will just be you. Don't forget to turn the lights out when you leave.....
Very interesting I have come to similar conclusions although at the time I did not know about the child abuse scandal. I've seen 2 of Your videos loved them both!
Good video many thanks for sharing your experiences its very helpful to know
Well done.
Thanks for sharing your experience and hope you guys are having a great life… still waking up and healing myself….
I was born into it. Out for over 20 yrs.Go to a great nondenominational church that teaches as Jesus taught ! I really wish that JW's would stop commenting unless they have done research !! I've been on both sides.. I've done research on both sides. Please JW's just do the research (even though the organization has told you not to put "doubt" in your minds) If you really have faith in what your beliefs are, then nothing will shake it! Then comment all you want ! We are not here to bash your religion. Just trying to help those of us who have done our research & concluded that it's a false religion & we've been misled. You're not even suppose to be looking at these sites.. Your time would be better spent researching ! Love & prayers to you all.
+Lonna Trudell very nicely said, thank you!
They are not allowed to be educated or do research. That would make them an apostate and possibly shun them (worse yet....the watch tower would lose control over their sheople). All cults, just like and abusive person, cut or seperate people from the world - this seperation enables the watch tower to have tighter control over their sheople. JW, as you know from personal experience, have been trained to respond to questions from the outside world....and their responses or collectively the same....That in itself is a warning sign. Why is it that there are very few organized "religions" that are deemed cults and past members have to be de-programmed? Well, the only two that come to mind are Scientology and JW. Unfortunately, it is hard to see your in a cult just the same thats its hard to see your a drug addict. Both are slaves and are wrapped in denial....its not that either one enjoys their situation, but that it is familiar. For either one to do something different typically requires some form of pain, and most importantly, great faith.
+Reaching Out we disfellow ship people for time until they change! It can be a month, week, days! We dont cause emotional stress by doing so! Your faith was like a feather! Where did it go! It flew away, now go find it!
Actually...not true. My friend, a former JW, was shunned for having sex at 16. He ended up a heroin addict and spent 6 years in prison for grand theft auto. Another friend, Lisa a JW, committed suicide because she was a shunned lesbian. Another female friend, I wont mention name cuz she is alive, shunned and herion addict and prostitute. So, dont give me that shit that acting like someone does not exist (shunning) because they dont do what they are told has not effect. Try doing it to your children for 1 week because they didnt brush their teeth in circular motions. I mean totally ignore them like their dead - dont look at them, respond to then, take to school, cook their meals, hug them, tell them you love them, etc......then come and tell me it has no effect . Its mean, unspirtual, heartless, and CULT LIKE!!!
Forcing people, through guilt, to do what someone else wants them to do or believe. Guilt...the most evil and destruct force in the universe. CULT!!!
Thanks for posting this vid.
In 1969, the Watchtower published a reference book called "Aid to Bible Understanding." and on pages 884-885 they explain that to the Jews the speaking of God's name was too holy to say, and so to avoid saying God's Holy name when reading the sacred texts, they added the vowels of "Adonai"( LORD) into the Tetragrammaton "YHWH". Instead the two words put together read: "Yehowah."
In 1984 the Watchtower published a brochure called "The DIVINE NAME that will Endure Forever". Here on page 17 they confirm that the first rendering of the word "Jehovah" was put forth by Raymundus Martini a Spanish Monk.Raymundus Martini had published a book in 1270 AD called "Pugeo Fidei" in which he was the first to make up the word "Jehovah" , being his latinized version of this "Yehowah".There has never been a "J" in the Hebrew language. There was no "J" in the English language before the 15th Century. Jehovah is NOT "The" name of God but a man-made invention !
Sure. It is the English version of the name. Just like we now use Jesus instead of Yeshua.
G.B. Land
So Paul Pinkard thinks using a name much less of God is not so important eh?....If that is the case then mr.Paul should erase his own name on his birth certicificate and all other documents because he thinks they're all needless & of no use and would rather that people call him as "man" in everyday life.
Those involved in the abuse, like all of us will have an accountability before Jehovah.
Wow! Only a month of research and you realized! Back in the days before the internet, before computers, when we left, we thought we were all alone, and at first had doubts, maybe just maybe it really IS God's organization, lol. It took years to get over the abuse, there was no online support in those days, so we each thought we were the only ones, that got df on nonsensical charges, we thought it as unheard of! Now come to find its happened to many! So glad you got out! Grace and peace.
+Sally Peterson Just think of what will happen if you keep on digging: suppose you will discover that the witnesses have the truth anyhow but you just had to dig deeper :and had to have more trust and faith : would you come here and admit that?
There is no question that the witnesses cannot answer !
+theonewhoisntme : they were NGO status until THE RULES WERE CHANGED .
Then they quited : before they were just using the library !
+theonewhoisntme
part 1:Did we agree to praise the UN?Conspiracy theorists claim that the Watchtower Society agreed to meet special criteria to “become an NGO”. They say this was part of the application process and included the requirement that they must “print articles praising the UN” to “keep their NGO status”. Is this true? Did the Society have to do anything special or agree to do certain things, to be registered with the DPI?First of all, because the accusers don’t really know what they’re talking about, we must clear up a mistake they all make. We did not agree to “become an NGO” because we already were an NGO. A Non-Governmental Organization (“NGO”) is simply a name for an organization which is not part of a government. The name “NGO” is not only used by the UN. It is a term used all over the world by many different governments. There are an estimated 2 million NGOs in the United States alone, for example. So the Watchtower Society was already an NGO, always has been an NGO, and always will be an NGO.Therefore the accusation, when properly phrased, is: Did the Watchtower Society agree to meet any special criteria to become associated with the DPI?
+afterraincomessun part 2:The answerThe DPI website describes the application process for NGOs to become associated with their office. Must NGOs, like the Watchtower Society, agree to a special list of criteria? Let us see.“Application ProcedureI. For NGOs that are currently NOT associated with DPI:The association process takes three to six months. The DPI Committee on NGOs that decides on association and disassociation meets twice a year, in June/July and December. Interested NGOs that meet the criteria should follow the steps:Send an official letter of request to be associated with DPI, provide a brief description of the organization and at least six samples of recent information materials.”...upon receipt of [these] documents, [we] will determine whether the formal application process for association can proceed.If the NGO Section finds that the NGO meets the criteria, the application form... will be sent to the NGO.”Notice that the first thing an NGO must do to be associated is surprising. They do not fill out an application form. No, the first thing they must do is send them“at least six samples of recent information materials”.Next, the DPI examines the material and decides whether the NGO meets their criteria. In other words, no NGO can say “I agree to meet your criteria”, or “if we are allowed to be associated with you, we will sign a statement agreeing to your criteria.” They can’t, because no such agreement exists. That is not how the application process works.Note that this is the process as of late 2007. So when the DPI has said in recent years that associated NGOs must “support the UN charter” or “share the ideals of the UN”, whether an NGO does this or not is determined by the DPI itself, and no one else. An NGO cannot state they agree to those terms, the DPI itself has the job of deciding if the NGO supports the same ideals as the UN and it’s charter, such as support for human rights, freedom of worship, etc.Only if the DPI decides that the NGO falls within the DPI’s criteria, do they send out an application form and a list of other required materials (such as proof of non-profit status). Evidently, the DPI must have determined that Jehovah’s Witnesses did meet the criteria because of our support for human rights and freedom of religion. So, we could not have “agreed to meet the UN’s criteria” because it doesn’t work that way. It seems, in fact, that an NGO does not have to “agree” to do anything, because the DPI itself examines the NGO and decides whether they meet the criteria or not.Therefore the accusation that the Society had made some sort of legal agreement to “write articles praising the UN” is nonsense. No such agreement exists, nor can it exist. Besides, we published balanced articles on the UN decades before we became DPI associated, and continue to do so, six years after ending the association (see the chapter Awake to Propaganda for more information). If Jehovah’s Witnesses had, for some reason, suddenly stopped writing anything about the UN, the DPI would simply have cancelled the association, like they have with other NGOs. In this case it would be because we would no longer be using the DPI’s facilities, and there would be no point in keeping us on the register.
+theonewhoisntme part3
Step by stepThis is the association process as we understand it from looking at the DPI’s own website:Step 1: An NGO sends copies of their printed articles to the DPI proving they are interested in UN issues and would make good use of their extensive library facilities to educate the public on UN issues.Step 2: A few months later, the DPI will examine the articles and decide whether the NGO appears to share the ideals of the UN charter, that it isn’t racist, etc. They probably also decide whether the NGO is big and important enough to make good and proper use of their facilities, such as their conferences and film screenings, etc, which would be wasted resources on insignificant NGOs.Step 3: Upon deciding that the NGO is suitable for association, the DPI sends the NGO an application form to complete and return, along with a list of any other materials they need.Step 4: The NGO completes the application form. This did not require a signature back in 1991 when the Watchtower Society became associated, nor did it mention anything about “supporting the UN charter”, etc. (the scans sections has a copy of this form)Step 5: The DPI receives the completed application form and related materials back (like proof of non-profit status, etc). Once processed, the DPI issues library access passes to the NGO’s representatives.This completes the application process. There is no “agreement” or contract stipulating what the NGO has to do from that point onwards. Provided the NGO remains within the DPI’s guidelines for associated NGOs, then the association will continue. That is why no signature was needed on the old 1991 application form, nor on the old accreditation forms.Later, however, it becomes time to complete a new accreditation form (a copy of this is in the scans section) and to supply articles to the UN as proof that they have indeed used the DPI’s facilities. If the NGO cannot produce any such proof, they would be removed from the DPI’s NGO association register due to lack of use. No agreement to do anything was necessary or required.
NO ONE needs 'religion' ! All you need is Yeshua/Jesus to be your Messiah and Saviour and by confessing with the mouth that He is the living Son of the Almighty Creator and believing in your heart Yeshua/Jesus died for ALL of us and ACCEPTING the FREE offer of everlasting life and the unimaginable joy, peace and LOVE that He is.
Amen! My brother in Christ!
That's what christianity teaches. and guess what? christianity is a religion
+Who's Euphoria? PFT, HAHAHAH GG
Christianity is not religion is a relationship between you and God
Religion - the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Christianity is religion you dumbfuck
Good video keep them up :-)
01:28 yes and The Watchtower has made many changes without scriptural backing, dozens of times in the past. For example, Russell preached that Christ's Return occurred in 1874. This was changed to 1914 by Judge Rutherford in the Watchtower 1932 Nov 1 p.325 without any scriptural backing. In the Proclaimer's Book, they state that the change from 1874 to 1914 happened in 1943. In my opinion they do not reference The Watchtower 1932 as it wasn't until 1943 that the organization actually attempted to reference the Bible to explain why the change was made to 1914.
For more information Google _"1914 : Failed Watchtower Prophecy"_ there is a full page with references explaining this
03:41 yes the God as presented by The Watchtower is a vindictive, cruel, manipulative personality. A god with a man's ego.
Steve Smith well jumping in the Freezer in a Hell Fire suite on! Here's another Russell19141975guy. 1you where not there! 2 you probably wasn't there in 1975. 3 your info has either come from your evil network of Why in the world capee dia. And you have no sense. You read that hate junk more than reading the Bible! You have crazy, insane poison, in you so what's in your Heart?
You look and sound like such a kind and sweet person and obviously after watching your video a very responsible and aware mother! I'm really so happy for you because the Jehovah's Witnesses will slowly create fear in you and your family about the Armageddon which would grow throughout time since they repeat this constantly, then they will require you to shun or not speak to anyone that has been excommunicated from their religion or that is not of their religion. Just those two things will add significant fear and a break-up of your family and future friends should your children grow up disinterested in their religion or not obey their laws. You have no idea how much grief you've saved yourself and your family! I have been through so much with this religion that I couldn't even attend my father's funeral today without their shunning and just left early. This is one tiny example of an entire lifetime of this! You DON'T need any human being to enable you to be closer to God, you only need love and appreciation which you obviously already have!
I have given my friend the address to this thread for him to read himself. Thanks for your responses everyone. Xxx
emsie76 you told your friend to talk to people that are on death row how to get on death row!
Like you I left them when they changed their minds about the generation of 1914. I remembered that before telling us the news, they launched some articles in the watchtower magazine asking us to be obedient and accept changes because the light was getting lighter and lighter.
+Sergio Velázquez They didn't change their minds...they changed their face...to the other one.
+Sergio Velázquez Yes. TRUTH does not change. The "light" just means they've changed their minds, again.
no truth doesn't change, but understanding of it does , don't tell me, you understand everything is quoted in the bible .
No, I cannot possibly understand EVERYTHING in the Bible but if I have a question I'll seek a trusted commentary or find answers from a trusted pastor. Blessings Miguel.
Nobody can, that's why there's so many different denominations and cults like JW. Oh, but it's the word of God. You'd think God would do a better job at making his "word" understandable to all.
Well done
T❤Thanks again for a great video teaching. All blessings in Jesus name ❤I’ve already subscribed
Thanks for this, we share many of the same line of thinking 🤔
The generations thing I think was a game changer for a lot of people. "Overlapping" generations is not "THIS generation shall not pass" at all, overlapping means 2 generations and THIS means one.
***** Yes, all that sneaky stuff is just too much to ignore for any half conscious jw
+D.W. Atwood The overlapping generations piece was it for me, and the fact that the understanding of what Jesus meant by generations keeps changing so I stopped in 2010 I think. Almost an insult to the intelligence...
Yes I agree, a massive game changer!!
dmcarden instead of the generation pass away thing you should be thankful and wait on Jehovah you selfish betrayer. What made you think that Jehovah is going to change because of you? The Stewards Job is to feed food at the right time. And no one or two are the Great Crowd. There are others and the Master Jesus knows what he is doing. How could you pray for Jehovah's Holy Spirit for understanding and endurance and then reject it? Selfishly serving for yourself. Just like the Jews complaining cause They didn't like the FOOD after saving them from the Egyptians. Thank you Jehovah for fooling me with them they ain't yo people cause you sent them to trick me to fool me to give me rules you said to benefit me but they were not. I have listen to people are my real friends now I can do things that YOU AND THEM stopped me from doing and that makes me soooooo happy now I don't pray to you I say your name now with such disdain now so YOU and Jesus need to just forget about me and I'm sure you will! This is what all of you are saying But JEHOVAH AND JESUS WONT FORGET!
Reaching Out get over it cry baby. Did the generation thing hurt the lil boys tender feelings?
Good for you. I was raised catholic and stopped attending mass etc over 30 years ago and I have no regrets.
Thank you for your video. It is good to think and learn and question. Try reading the 4 Agreements not for spiritual ideas but for the idea of making agreements that allow one to express self determination and one's authentic self as a changing evolution of life. I am not a member this cult nor ever have been but I have family members that are.
Well done. I feel just the same and just like you when you start to do research on the organisation, oh my goodness you open a huge can of dirty stinking worms. Well done for waking up.
Im surprised not one of your points touched on the fact that they organization attempted to predict the end of the world 3 times.. 1914, 1925 then 1975.. Three failed attempts is more than enough to concern someone.
+Jae Melo - There are actually TEN failed Armageddon predictions (that I've counted officially) in their publications. Some of the things this religion still tries to defend (or sweep under the carpet) are just mind-boggling.
Wow, even better lol... Where you previously a JW also?!
Jae Melo 25 years. The only saving grace is that I had an unbelieving father. I actually shudder when I think about how I might have turned out if both parents subscribed to this false religion. I don't know where I'd be today.
The ironic part?
He became a Witness shortly before I left. Go figure!
brian b Well, virgins like yourself often think silly things like that.
many many more dates than that truley honest started w 18 something or other then now 2014 100 years now 2018 or 19 100 yrs etc etc
Good that you stop going to them, they are not good.
I’m so happy for you!!! I hope you have the real Jesus now
Yessss me too I have the real Jesus now!!!! Thank you so much!
Good for you for caring about your children enough to get out.
Yessss this cult destroy families and damage young children minds!!!
I studied with JW years ago. One of their main premises is that the body and the soul are one and the same. However, this belief is contradicted by Jesus himself, when he told his disciples not to be afraid of people who can kill the body but cannot kill the soul, to instead be afraid of the One who can kill BOTH [meaning two] the body AND the soul. Furthermore, the bible teaches to avoid the consumption of blood. However, it also teaches not to murder. So if one of their children needs a blood transfusion, they'd opt to have their children die. In my opinion the bible is clearly referring to eating blood, not to receiving a blood transfusion, which is not eating blood. There are other issues where JW are dead wrong, which is why I prefer not to be a JW.
Darryl Ruiz Quite true! But if you have an illness that will definitely kill you, and only a blood transfusion will keep u alive, what's the big deal? The blood is not consumed as food; it's taken as medicine. Today the blood is screened for all kinds of illness causing agents. Sure there are no guarantees. But that's true for most therapies. I prefer that my child, who may have a cancer or other illness that requires transfusions to give him a chance, to get the transfusion even if it will add just one more second of life.
+Miguel Rodriguez doesn't say in the bible the soul that sin it will die and who doesn't sin? when jesus told his disciples not to be afraid of the ones who kill the body and the soul on the gehenna which means the second death were is not resurrection.
Miguel Rodriguez I'm just curious about something how many children have you had that needed a blood transfusion? I know 4 that said No and there parents said no and fought a court order and won! Those kids are not kids now two of the have their own kids now. One is in New York and the Other one is in the Republic of Great Britain. How many kids have did because of selfish people ignore Doctors about blowing smoke in the air? 🖇📌🔇👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂quiet please.
Hi. I'm researching, I'm trying to find good videos for Jw. All I'm stumbling on is detrimental, disturbing videos. I'm a Christian. I'm looking as my friend is being drawn in more and more by these Jw. Now I'm getting worried. Any advice would be very much appreciated ! At first I was worried they wanted his money, but the more I see and hear the more worried I get.
+emsie76 Advise your friend to not get involved in the organisation.
+Nimzomyth68 I did when he first went to a meeting, they also go to his house. I'm trying my best without pushing him closer to them. Thanks for the concern. Have a good day x
emsie76 You are welcome. I was brought up as a witness. 21 years. Its a mind controlling cult.
+emsie76 I hate to be a pessimist, but the fact is, no one goes where they don’t want to go. Your friend is not being “drawn in” as you say, they are going in the direction they’ve chosen. I’ve had numerous online “debates" with JW’s which objectively, were won decisively, and yet was unsuccessful at changing anyone’s mind. For this reason, I’m not sure that any amount of wrangling over doctrine will avail anything at this point. But If your friend hasn’t yet been fully _assimilated_, then it may still be possible to reach them by exposing the organization itself which can be done quite easily and effectively, but you’ll need to educate yourself. The best and easiest way to expose the Watchtower is by demonstrating;
1 The Watchtowers persistent misrepresentation of church history.
2 The fact that the Watchtower has claimed inspiration for itself, despite assertions to the contrary, and yet has made predictions which have failed to materialize over and over again.
For the first point, I would recommend J.N.D. Kelly’s work _”Early Christian Doctrines.”_ I recommend this resource because Kelly is often quoted (albeit out of context) by the Watchtower, so they acknowledge him as an authority. It’s not an easy read, but you don’t have to read the whole thing. In chapter iv, _The Divine Triad_, he shows that the belief in the eternality, and full ontological equality of Christ with the Father was the all but universal belief of the church for the first three centuries. In chapter v, _Third-Century Trinitarianism_, he shows that by the third century, *_100 years before the Trinity was supposedly invented by Nicaea_*, the doctrine of the Trinity was already solidifying. The Watchtower has lied, and continues to lie to it’s people about these things, and armed with this knowledge, it can be demonstrated. It’s important to remember though that you’re not trying to prove the deity of Christ, only that the Watchtower has lied to its members about what the early church believed.
For the second point, I would recommend this website:
corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/part-1-why-so-many-false-alarms.html
If you click on the link _What Is A False Prophet_, it takes you to a section which shows beyond disputation that the Watchtower has in fact, claimed to be a prophet to the point of being inspired, and yet has made false prophecy after false prophecy.
My experience with JW’s is that they have no response whatsoever when confronted with this information. Hopefully you can reach your friend with it in time.
Blessings..
+emsie76 Have a look at Watchtower Examination utube channel for an unbiased well researched factual expose. Pray for him.
Thank you for your informative video.
So are you now with another religious group?
If not, did you decide to remain Christians or decided something different?
Just curious and I'm sure the other viewers are also. Thanks
glad u thought of your kids.... it really cam mess them up
you'll never get your answers questions that you asked you will get disfellowshipped I wasn't even baptized but I married a man that wasn't a JW years ago I'm pregnant come home from with every run everybody around the kitchen table to disassociate not to come back to the Kingdom Hall I was okay with that I was sad for my mother because she never got to go that she is now my brother and sister was happy not to go back my father was in the JW that we would not be baptized until 18 years of age and make our own decisions thank you Dad because all I've heard from the 1960 that the end is coming get ready for it the demons can come into your bedroom the demons are everywhere to scare the crap out of you I'm done with it and yes it's false it's an occult
Vanessa Darnell
they were 4 red flags but not reasons to leave ,you have a bible and why didnt you test JWs beliefs out with other Christian with an open mind ,the truth will not kill you
PlantPoweredPenguin man fears and hates what he doesn't understand it's very scary to yo isn't it.
Wonderful. You are out. Great.
good for you ! you can think for yourself. bravo Edmond, bravo.
Hello, thank you for your videos. I have shared them on an XJW facebook group, if you would like to join us then please let me know. :)
I studied with Jehovah's Witnesses for 3 years and I stopped going to meetings and conventions or even study with them.
Emily- glad to hear that you made a wise decision !
Arse whipe.
Emily//// Because they pretend a flawed book (the bible) is the 'word of God'.
I grew up as a JW, but I quitted. I remember bible teachings and how annoyed I was by those teachers.
I think your points are valid and I can understand why you would leave a cult like this. The question I have is did you also leave Jehovah, or are you still reading the Bible and following Jesus? I'm under the impression that a lot of former witnesses no longer believe in God.
Malachi 3:1 Jesus is God
+William Hardin --lie
+William Hardin As to whether the bible supports Jesus being God is contradictory, The support is mostly found in the book of John, He is called 'son of man' so often in the bible. The council of Nicea pronounced him God. Since when does God leave His affairs to a committee of men?
I just want to say that JW never once said they were perfect and everyone saying Lord Lord will not enter. Just because some in the congregation did something bad does not mean all JW are bad, but I will say we are living in satans world, he does not want us to find the true God, so he will keep our minds blinded toward what is right, remember in noah's day no one believed him, and who survived. God is a God that cannot lie and he promised a perfect world.
I think many JWs are genuine sincere people. May God open their eyes to the truth.
You can be sincerely wrong.
relying on God to guide your own personal path, follow His Son's life, commands etc..by constant prayer and bible reading, is much more difficult, than to blindly follow a so-called spiritual man, group, that want or need to create their own disciples. look how many times the org. has made wrong choice's in God's name, disassociated, or worse, disfellowshipped some who disagreed with their rendering of scripture, than some time later, the org. changes their minds on subject, Do they reinstate those they punished, "NEVER" they remain in their judgement not because they were wrong, but because they would not submit to the org's. thinking at the time. False Teachers
s williams why do you turn your backs on anyone who leaves
Brian Allen like what scriptural doctrine? Let's have it or just sit down.
Jacqui Day why do you turn you back on what is dangerous and rotten enough to hurt others in your home?
A friend is the head of an Intensive Care Unit, he tells me while in front of other JWs they say they don’t want blood transfusions - all of them accept transfusions if their life is in the line.
The crazy thing is that we are told to go to the elders for help if we have a problem but the elders are not allowed to be open minded, they have no choice but to follow the WBTS opinions. So to talk to the elders about blood transfusions and to shed light on the matter is pointless. They will not do their own research on the matter.
Good for you👍
Hi emsie76 you're right to be worried! Look at the website jwfacts.com we found it invaluable :)
Thank you for your response. I hope this finds you well and healthy.
I shall take a look at the site.
I posted the link of the inside story the other night but he wouldn't watch it. Thanks for all your help and time x
+Reaching Out please check out this site.
carm.org/
carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses
Go check the official site jw.org.
Twizted Gaming Or you could just go to; jwfacts.com/
It's not recommended if you want truthful information. What that website portrays is false.
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Look at the list of Governing Body members, Askenazi Germans that includes CT Russell himself. Remember the first editions of the magazine were called "ZION'S WATCHTOWER". RUSSELL, SUITER, KNORR, FRANZ, SWINGLE, HENSCHEL, FINKLE, ect
The bible is clear ...Don't eat blood..,...Abstain from blood...Duh.
Actually the soul is transported around the body through the blood-it carries the life force. I guess to accept another's blood is to accept their transgressions/memories too-like residual energy. That's why Jews don't do it..
Bert//. The bible is not clear about much of anything. The bible writers know nothing about modern medicine and what it can do. By following 2000 year old ignorance, you lose!
Mich/// Baloney. The spirit body interpenetrates the physical body and needs no "transportation."
That was clear to me. Then the GB decided Witnesses could have blood fractions. That's blood...and splitting hairs! That didn't sit well with me at all and was one of the main reasons I left.
I like to drink the menstrual blood of the virgin mary (usually pinot noir, but sometimes the occasional merlot) on Saturday mornings.
Your choice is what you have to live with. Child abuse has to do with individuals, not the organization. No one tells you Not to take on higher education. your choice! Yes I did not understand the generation doctrine either, but who is really trying to help us understand Bible truths? Just because something is not totally clear, we leave it? Sounds like the disciples that left Jesus when he said "Eat my flesh and drink my blood." And speaking of blood, if God said don't eat/drink/take blood. Who is man to tell us otherwise? Isn't Faith in Jehovah better than the best surgeon? It's your choice....I am sorry you are not going to the meetings because of that. There is so much more you learned vs. what makes you doubt.
If you bite your tongue while eating and your tongue bleeds that means you sinned, at least going by your logic. Therefore the blood transfusions shouldn't be considered a sin because it makes absolutely no sense. As for the higher education it depends, in my observation the elders' children are allowed to do whatever they want including higher education but the other children are peer pressured not to and if they do they get bullied and criticized.
No that's not my logic. That's yours. If you eat blood from an animal not properly bled. That was a sin. In Acts Paul said they should abstain from blood, hence eat /drink. I try not to confuse people, the Bible is not trying to trick us.
Sorry but you're wrong and you're missing the point. I'm going by your logic that drinking/taking blood is a sin. Therefore if you bite your tongue and it bleeds that equals sin going by your rules of no blood. Do you have the ability to think? This no blood rule is asinine.
Foxy. I will try to explain it from the Bible viewpoint. Not mine. Blood means life, and it was commanded to be poured out before the animal was eaten. Blood was not to be eaten. If you got cut yourself and sucked your cut or bit your lip and drank YOUR blood that is not the same. You are not to drink blood eat blood from another soul. The blood means life. This is not my logic, this belongs to GOD. If you read it I will be happy to give you the scriptures to help you see what God wants. Not me.
If you have your Bible handy, you will see God told the Israelites that blood is sacred. In Leviticus 17:14 he said the soul is its blood. Which means if the blood were to run out of our body we should die. I can see this subject is dear to your heart. Rest assured I, nor any Sane person would allow their child die due to blood refusal. But there are alternatives to blood usage. I ask that you see and hear it for yourself. www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/blood-transfusion-alternative-strategies/
I had a friend who lived in a larger city and often she had Jehovah's Witnesses come to her door time and time again. It was suggested to her that should they come around in the winter time she should give them each a golf ball!!! WTHH I thought that was the dumbest advice anyone can give!
My gf tried it and within 2 months and there after she never saw another Jehovah's Witness ever come to her door again.
It was to imply that a JW would put a golf ball into their gloves so that they wouldn't get cold fingers/hands from knocking on doors in freezing weather yet when they used the golf balls to knock on the doors it would make their knocking so much louder that when the homeowner came to the door he/she would be so ticked off by the loud door banging they wouldn't give a JW one second to explain why they were there. Instead the JW's would walk away after a verbal blasting from the home owner!
Where I live is very rural and I have yet to see one JW come out even near where I live or else I would also give them some golf balls!
Very nice, thanks 🙂
Natasha-I have to disagree with you on this bashing of ones religion. Thats because our lives are at stake. If lives were not at stake then it would not matter what religion one believed in..If kool ade was going to be served at the kingdom hall this Sunday because the watchtower felt that they were going under and I knew about what this kool ade drinking would mean , would I be wrong to tell you not to go? It would be my God given duty to inform you.If saving your life from this kool ade party is bashing, then I say let the bashing begin. We all need bashing at times.
+John Newsome but then you will have no more kool aid and i know you people loveeeee kool aid.
+Miguel Castellanos Do you know you can be disfellowshipped for commenting on this Apostate website? You are conversing with Apostates! The brothers at Bethel monitor these sites and now they have your name. Good luck at your judicial hearing!
+jwpublisher1 then i am going to come up with a fake nickname like yours , jwpublisher1.
+jwpublisher1 Judical meeting? I would not give them that privilege.I left 10 years ago.This was after 32 years of this control nonsense.By the way why are you on here? Are you an apostate or spying? It really does not matter.I am 79 years of age so what can them not speaking to me mean. They no longer come here and they still have not df me.I think they are scared because I sent a letter of diass.ote to them and they brought it back saying that they feel I was angry at the time I wrote it. I still have the letter. That was 10 years ago. In that letter I had stated that I had in my procession information that I received from the UN. Maybe that's it. I really do not care either way.
Well, if the WT told you to drink it, you would have to OR you would be shunned. The WT (all old ass white dudes with only 1 minority no women....cuz women have ZERO say) IS the law.....not Jehovah or Jesus or their own bible. Thus....a cult.
Just think what a wonderful thing you have done for your children, here's a big pat on the back.
Bill Westhoff yeah what is she doing that's so wonderful now for them. A lifestyle back into the dungeon of Satan's world where hope is diminishing each day! Where Man will Make It All Great Again! You talk about the Prince of Peace! and then reject His appointment as King of Jehovahs Kingdom! Why? Your pride will not let you. You would have to admit your wrong teaching, beliefs, lifestyles. And only the honest hearted humble ones can do that. For you Clergy Guys your money, your position, your haughty pride and elevated sense of yourself cannot allow that. You could not admit that the Trinity is a falsehood even many see that for themselves. You could never admit that you lived a lie! But guess what? many has! And walked away from the Harlots and has stayed away. These ones has seen and accepted the truth. They didn't come to serve Jehovah out of selfishness. They learned what the love of God means. And they know what salvation is and endurance to the end will be granted to them. They love Jehovah God from their hearts and serve him for not a date in mind but eternity. Even though we know that in the Bible that salvation belong to a few, because of their obedience, it's sad for you that you refuse to humble yourself and be taught by the only one who will save you.
Amen! I use to study with the JW over 38 year ago, I also found them to be totally off scripture. I am so glad you did your reserch and found the to leave. Just don't give up on God for He has not given up on you. keep your faith in Him not denomination.
+Lighthouse Worship Center totally of scripture yeah right . for example?
? miguelito if your going to ask a question make it a full question.. thanks . this is not facebook if you like to learn i would be glad to teach you.. if not go back to facebook.
+Lighthouse Worship Center so you don't understand my question? i ask you to give an example of what teachings are off scripture,
+Lighthouse Worship Center and i don't like face book , i never even try it .
+Miguel Castellanos jwfacts.com but beside this Web site that I just came across. hundreds of Scripture were change. now I don't want to get into an argument. he said she said. because we are talking about eternity. so it's bigger then just this and that. but take a KJV. and the Jehova.witness bible. and do your own study. be bless.
Having been involved in the religion for years but don't go anymore I can relate to this woman's concerns ,the facts are if it is a life and death situation I would take any steps nessecery to preserve life ,however blood transfusions are a risky business and most of the UK blood comes from the USA and it's only screened in batches and certain diseases in the blood won't show up in screening ,it can lay dormant ,also your situation doesn't have to be life threatening for them to give you a blood transfusion ,most are carried out as a precaution if you have a low blood count or low in iron like my friend's wife who was given 4 transfusions for an iron deficiency but it wasn't life threatening ,but as I say under certain circumstances I would do what I needed to do
She says JW is bad for us, yet she does not state the problem nor does she put forward any argument. She just plainly rambles about saying the same thing over and over again for 5 min with no substance at all.
Erm, flawed child abuse policy, a hatred of higher education, a confused doctrinal view on blood and overlapping generations story.
You don't understand the problems that the organisation has with child abuse, you should get to know these things and if you still remain as a JW, then you need to make an effort to try to make things better.
Mike Gingell, I know of rapists and child abusers that did NOT get kicked out, so exactly what is your point? Oh I forgot you dont have a point! Just accept your cult is flawed in a disgusting way and do something about it. Do the innocent children of your cult a favor and request the disgusting GB policies be changed!
Congrats! Nice Christian language!. Also, I bet you only have the left nut, right? lololol
I love it when this apologists run out of lame excuses and start insulting. Give me facts, blah, blah blah is for idiots. Your GB is heartless, soulless, evil. They will be destroyed by the true and only God: JEHOVA!
...Maybe you should research from JW.org instead.
We did.
+Reaching Out check deeper
"It is important, then, that you "keep testing whether you are in the faith," as Paul declared. Keep checking to see whether the things you believe are in keeping with God's Word. But the question is, Are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination. And if what you believe is not in keeping with the Bible, then you should welcome the truth, because it leads to light and life."
(Watchtower 1958 May 1 p.261 Is Your Religion the Right One?)
All JWs say this when they want you to go join their little cult. LOL JW can never explain the reasons why they do the things that they do.
Nesha Britwood who said it was a cult?
What's the generation doctrine please?
Only my dad was JW (left after panorama special) but being told about armageddon at the height of nuclear fear in 80s made me terrified all the time but also being told there were invisible demons around left deep psychological problems .
I am a 12 year old Jehovah's Witness and I really love it. Leaving this family would be the worst decision ever. Nobody can convince me to leave nor will they. I hope people will come to their senses and come back to the family because Jehovah truly loves and cares about you :)
+Arianna Graceffa And Jehovah loves you whether or not you are a member of any church or cult. If it works for you, then work it. It obviously does not work for everyone, so they should leave and find something more suitable.
+Arianna Graceffa - Right now your religion's Governing Body have been caught by the Australian Royal Commission in covering up 1,006 cases of child rape involving little girls your age and younger. It's not a lie, it's not false information. It's fact. So we don't know to come our senses.
Well said my love!
This reply should go to Mystic River I am not commenting on this issue okay
❤Thanks there are many reasons for leaving the Jehovah’s witnesses
❤ They are still in the kingdom of darkness because the watchtower won’t allow them call on the Lord Jesus for salvation and forgiveness because salvation is only found in the name of the Lord Jesus Acts 4:12
❤There are only 2 groups in God’s word Saved or still lost
PRAISE GOD AND CHRIST YOU GOT YOUR CHILDREN OUT... I PRAY FREQUENTLY FOR CHILDREN OF CULT MEMBERS. THANK MY LORD AND MY HOLY FATHER.!
haaaah you went down the rabbit hole,I am still going down almost 3 years now,welcome to your freedom John8:32 BLESSINGS
Good for you...
Great, where are you 'Reaching out'?
Im in the UK, be good to meet up if possible.
thanks 👍👍👍
welcome to the rest of society . an atheist peace is what we are all striving for
fellow sister what u fail to realize is you have to let Jehovah handle things and trust me I know it can be hard some times but God never fails all well wishes
+Snax The Grate What you really mean is to let the WT handle things. God gave you a brain to think with and He does not want you turning that function over to any other group of men.
I have a question.
Yes? What is your question?
Love your accent, where you from?
Is the channel Atheist friendly? I was raised one of Jehovah's Witnesses but no longer want any part of it, so would these people be accepting of me, or shun me like other former witnesses?