The 3 Most Powerful Targaryens (Game of Thrones Lore)

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  • @abandonallhope.1040
    @abandonallhope.1040 Před rokem +2002

    Visenya is QUEEN. Daenerys has Rhaenys' soft beauty and Visenya's strength and ruthlessness.

    • @herloss448
      @herloss448 Před rokem +95

      danerys had Aegon's alpha ness

    • @dell6826
      @dell6826 Před rokem +1

      You

    • @HK-gm8pe
      @HK-gm8pe Před rokem +82

      dont know Dany isnt a fighter....a dragonrider but not a fighter like Visenya also by the books I wouldnt even say that she is that ruthless( remember season 7-8 didnt happen in my mind) I would say that Dany is more like Rhaenys

    • @Morganasnotarobot0
      @Morganasnotarobot0 Před rokem +1

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    • @Morganasnotarobot0
      @Morganasnotarobot0 Před rokem

      Love this! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @jasminefaith9773
    @jasminefaith9773 Před rokem +1711

    I always prefer Queen Visenya. She only married Aegon for duty but she was everything a queen should be. It was she not Rhaenys who solidified Aegon reign. She loved her family and became one of the main reasons why westeros was conquered. Personally, I think she could’ve been queen in her own right.

    • @revanius2213
      @revanius2213 Před rokem +102

      Technically she was, Aegon's Queens alone among the Queens were considered equal to Aegon by Aegon himself. Something that was brought up later when comparing Alysanne to them.

    • @kmt8825
      @kmt8825 Před rokem +83

      @@revanius2213 Exactly she was basically ruling Westeros, Aegon had the right temperament of a King and figure head. But Visenya was the brains behind the operation, it wouldn't surprise me if it was her and Aegon that came up with taking over Westeros. Whats interesting about them, is that they Never really took over because they wanted glory, well some of it was for glory, but it wouldn't surprise me that people who were considered lesser than them, would not have gotten the story right when it came to Aegon. When you look at the chaos that was going on in Westeros and the tremendous amount of brutality that was going on, the realm really did need some sort of order to keep the realm in check. And I think along the way may of the Targaryens down the lineage forgot that, and thats what led to their downfall.

    • @JammesJammes
      @JammesJammes Před rokem +8

      I don't care about her

    • @b_de_silva
      @b_de_silva Před rokem +54

      Yeah, and she almost ruined her house by usurping the throne from Aegon the uncrowned, visenya wasn't a good queen neither a good person, she was a murderer that almost ended house Targaryen because she wanted her psychotic son maegor to be king.

    • @kmt8825
      @kmt8825 Před rokem +45

      @@b_de_silva yes and no, Yes meager was awful. but if it wasn't for him the Targaryens would of never been able to secure their power. Jahearys Inherited the kingdom when fear was solidified, and people no longer wanted to go against them, because Maegor was so brutal, after that period an era of peace.

  • @clementejackson8090
    @clementejackson8090 Před rokem +738

    Daemon Targaryen “King of the step stones & Narrow sea, Prince of the city, lord of flea bottom, Founder of the Gold cloaks etc” Wielder of dark sister dragon master to Caraxes who took down Vhagar. I think he’s pretty bloody tough lol. Great videos excited for house of the dragon ! :)

    • @tristanlanphere7736
      @tristanlanphere7736 Před rokem +33

      Daemon's prowess with the sword was said by some to be similar to that of the god (the warrior) in the seven.

    • @tristanlanphere7736
      @tristanlanphere7736 Před rokem +7

      Im talking about daemon blackfyre btw

    • @starlight0313
      @starlight0313 Před rokem +36

      @@tristanlanphere7736 he was named after this Daemon

    • @princedaemontargaryen4971
      @princedaemontargaryen4971 Před rokem +4

      I am bloody tough

    • @princedaemontargaryen4971
      @princedaemontargaryen4971 Před rokem +15

      @@starlight0313 Daemon Targaryen wasn’t named after Daemon Blackfyre. If you meant Daemon Blackfyre was named after Daemon Targaryen, you are kinda right but not 100%. Blackfyre wasn’t named Daemon for the solo reason of being named after Daemon Targaryen.

  • @JoshuaHenelyThornhill
    @JoshuaHenelyThornhill Před rokem +156

    Visenya is a terrifying lady and a very effective decision maker. She would have been a true leader and a ruthless one more akin to a Tywin.

  • @g-5615
    @g-5615 Před rokem +456

    I would put Jaehaerys up there. Not only the best king in the history of the kingdom, but probably the most powerful one as well. He trained himself in combat until he was a match for anyone in the kingdom, and his kingsguard was said to be the greatest of all time. Pretty much the only king there ever was to actually live a long life and die of old age. He was pretty much the only ruler with no apparent weakness. Perfect in combat, perfect guards, excellent dragon+dragon riding skills, perfect relationship, admired and beloved by the kingdom (except for the north maybe) and overall a smart,independent thinker that took advice well but still adjusted his final decisions when he felt strongly about them.

    • @minnumseerrund
      @minnumseerrund Před rokem +21

      Best Targaryen. Not most powerfull Targaryen.

    • @g-5615
      @g-5615 Před rokem +30

      @@minnumseerrund Who's more powerful? He was a better fighter than just about every Targaryen with one or two exceptions. He had the best kings guard bar none. He had more dragons at his disposal than Aegon and his sister, as well as just about every other king. And his people were not torn like with most other rulers. Bloodraven is the only one I can see above him, or Deanaerys end of series of course.

    • @saralahey9290
      @saralahey9290 Před rokem +8

      Nop. Jaehaerys wasnt amongst one of the best warriors in House Targaryen. His son Baelon, his grandson Daemon, Aemon the Dragonknight, Daeron the Young Dragon, Baelor Breakspear, Daemon Blackfyre and Daeron (son of Egg) were better.
      Also Jaehaerys' kingsguard prob had only Ryam Redwyne as a legendary Kingsguard, Aerys II was the one to have the greatest kingsguard.
      Plus Jaehaerys wasnt really perfect, he was an awfull father to his children besides Prince Aemon and Prince Baelon
      And it was in Jaehaerys' reign that the seeds to Dance of Dragons began...

    • @g-5615
      @g-5615 Před rokem +17

      @@saralahey9290
      The Dance of the Dragon was not Jeharrys fault, it was his sons. If he had not went against the decisions of the council there would never have been a dance, not at that time at least.
      Jaehaerys kingsgaurd is specifically mentioned as the greatest kings guard there ever was. Maybe that was before Aerys i'm not sure when Fire and Blood is meant to be written exactly. Either way that would make his at least the second greatest kingsguard.
      Arthur Dayne, Geralt Hightower and another kinght got defeated alongside one more kingsguardsmen against Ned stark hand his compenions, or at least we can suppose they did. And they were 5, 7? Meanwhile Jaehaery's kingsguard could scare of 51 people just the 7 of them. Those are way worse odds than 3 on 7.
      And the ones he was training with were also his kingsguard (I think), he was said to be an equal to them in combat, which combared to how skilled they makes them one of the greatest knights in the kingdom.

    • @minnumseerrund
      @minnumseerrund Před rokem +1

      @@g-5615I meant personal power/strength. Obviously, Bloodraven being a greenseer-mastermind and Daenerys having prophetic powers and 3 goddamn dragons would make them stronger than Jaeherys in a 1v1 scenario, but I suppose there's an argument for him being the most powerfull ruler

  • @TheDrexxus
    @TheDrexxus Před rokem +330

    Westeros: Uh, you can't marry members of your family.
    Aegon Targaryen: Well i'm gonna, and you can't stop me.
    Westeros: Ok... Well, you can't marry more than one person at a time!
    Aegon Targaryen: Well i'm gonna, and you can't stop me.
    Westeros: Ok...... Well women can't rule, only men.
    Aegon Targaryen: ... That seems perfectly fine and reasonable and I will respect your culture.
    Visenya: >:|

    • @magister343
      @magister343 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Women could and did rule in Westerosi culture, if they did not have any brothers. Jeyne Arryn and Rhea Royce were heirs who ruled in their own right. There are also many cases of widows being regents for their young sons.

    • @noe842
      @noe842 Před 5 měsíci

      @@magister343still not fair

    • @noe842
      @noe842 Před 5 měsíci

      Visenya> aegon

  • @linuskaiser4563
    @linuskaiser4563 Před rokem +733

    Jaehaerys the first needs to be in this list tbh. He saved the Targaryen dynasty from certain ruin after Aenys and Maegor and really brought the roam together by establishing a official law, won every war he fought (even won the 4th dornish war without losing a single man, something even Aegon the conquerer couldn’t do) and rode Vermithor, the third biggest dragon after Balerion and Vhagar. He also ruled the longest out of all the Targaryen Kings. So in my opinion he definitely earns to be on this list.
    Also Aegon I could be considered over Visenya in my opinion. Still a interesting video tho!

    • @samudragupta4395
      @samudragupta4395 Před rokem +8

      Jaehaerys abd Daeron tye Good were best of The Targaryens.

    • @LCSGamezer
      @LCSGamezer Před rokem +4

      True Id still put visenya top 5 but jaehaerys top 3 fs w dany and 3eyed raven

    • @rhettzkie
      @rhettzkie Před rokem +16

      YESSSS. It sucks they just glossed over his entire reign because it probably would've been too boring for tv. He was that good. Him and Alyssane changed westeros.

    • @LegendInThaMakin
      @LegendInThaMakin Před rokem +16

      Plus it is said this his first 7 kings guard knights were the best kings guard knights that ever served any king and he was trained by them on dragon stone. He was claimed to be an even better swordsman than Maegor.

    • @alphagamer9505
      @alphagamer9505 Před rokem +3

      @@rhettzkie it wouldn't been boring

  • @thetalesofelbek7042
    @thetalesofelbek7042 Před rokem +479

    Agree with your list. Dany is only 15 and has the potential to be the 1st. I would add Daemon the Rogue Prince too

    • @chriskareem5723
      @chriskareem5723 Před rokem +28

      100% people complaining about it but she’s done a lot and like you said she’s only 15

    • @skinnypomegranate
      @skinnypomegranate Před rokem +3

      @@Beaukieran i cant even argue against your points because I have no idea what you’re even saying.

    • @codehorror6743
      @codehorror6743 Před rokem +2

      fact!! Daemon is a badass.

    • @steadydropnem
      @steadydropnem Před rokem +1

      My list would be
      #1 Maegor the Cruel
      #2 Aemon the DragonKnight
      #3 Daemon the Rouge Prince

    • @jeffersonhassan4558
      @jeffersonhassan4558 Před rokem

      @@steadydropnem y'all are just attracted to evil

  • @marimayes
    @marimayes Před rokem +124

    I just pray HBO & George RR Martin one day give us a show on based the Conquest of Westeros. Doesn’t matter whether its animated or live action. I just need it!

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 Před rokem +3

      Thats where he should have started. Actually should have started at the fall of Valeria.

    • @gamesquadtv1600
      @gamesquadtv1600 Před rokem +5

      @@michaelmichaelagnew8503 exactly started from the doom then went, the conquest, then house of dragon,then something during the mad king, and then game of thrones.
      But I did hear that the director for house of the dragon say it is about the whole Targaryen history not just the dance so we may be seeing other periods of time I hope we do!

  • @constantinetranos2225
    @constantinetranos2225 Před rokem +819

    Imagine if Daenerys was trained in swordfighting by Baristan, one of the greatest fighters of the Seven Kingdoms...She would have been overpowered...

    • @Hi-wi4pu
      @Hi-wi4pu Před rokem +134

      I disagree. Daenerys has a lot of skills but there is no indication that she has any inclination towards physical fighting and she still is a young girl in the books

    • @joshuaadams6565
      @joshuaadams6565 Před rokem +25

      I have a feeling she may have to learn for the long night. Maybe Daenerys or Arya will wield dark sister? Jon could possibly teach her?

    • @constantinetranos2225
      @constantinetranos2225 Před rokem +20

      @@Hi-wi4pu Arya is younger and she is turning into a fearless assassin...

    • @RhaevanHeims
      @RhaevanHeims Před rokem +6

      @@Hi-wi4pu ever heard of Arya Stark?

    • @RhaevanHeims
      @RhaevanHeims Před rokem +29

      All those time with Jorah and yet not a single sword fight lesson.....
      Pffffff

  • @jawadbakhshi31
    @jawadbakhshi31 Před rokem +159

    At the end of the day. Danny has 3 dragons while everyone before her had 1 dragon. She’s special in her own way

    • @tevincollins2869
      @tevincollins2869 Před rokem +4

      Exactly

    • @skinnypomegranate
      @skinnypomegranate Před rokem +12

      Yes, but this video is from the perspective of the books-she’s only 15 in them. She hasn’t become anything near the dany we saw in GoT-YET

    • @jawadbakhshi31
      @jawadbakhshi31 Před rokem +13

      @@skinnypomegranate at the end of the day she has 3 and everyone has one. Says most powerful GOT targaryens. Not sure if if you read it properly. Also doesn’t say before Danny. So not sure how you read it. Danny strongest of all time. If she didn’t have John snow the oath breaker near her then she would have been a long ruler. Also Danny is in the books. I mean idk I’m kinda confused what books you are specifically talking about. Danny would probably loose if she versed aegon but only cause of her dragons still being infants. My main point is she has 3 babies that are growing fast. She just needed time. Her situation against the white walkers ruined things. If not for that she would make everyone bend the knee. She started with nothing and look at what she accomplished all alone. Everyone before her got help. Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @k8lemonade
      @k8lemonade Před rokem +1

      @@jawadbakhshi31 her dragons were also the smallest in the entire history of game of thrones soooo ????

    • @jawadbakhshi31
      @jawadbakhshi31 Před rokem +7

      @@k8lemonade they were also the youngest sooo????

  • @billychops1280
    @billychops1280 Před rokem +262

    As the top 3 in my book I would put Daemon the Rogue prince simply because he carved out his own kingdom, was above the laws of everyone even he’s brother for the most part, and was the wonder and terror of his age, also he had the most war experience dragon at the time besides Vhagar but unlike Vhagar Aemond one eye was not experienced in war and relied on the size of his dragon alone, which is why he ultimately lost his army to the black as well as kings landing, my other 2 would be Jaeherys the first simply because of what he achieved and for how long he held power with virtually no rebellions from his lords, there was Borris baratheon but he didn’t exactly rise against him, he joined a dornish outlaw so technically he took part in an invasion as a traitor, but the rest of his reign was great and he did ride a formidable dragon who could only be rivalled by Dream fyre at the time, since all the other dragons except silverwing had no riders, and Allysane would never fight him, so he was the absolute power of his day, and my other one would be Aegon the conqueror and the only reason I put him over Visenya, is that to literally everyone else it didn’t matter that Visenya was still around, as soon as aegon died everyone basically revolted, and they were gunning for Aegons sons, even when Maegor, a much crueler version of his father mounted Balerion to stop the rebellions they persisted to the very end when they backed Jaeherys, they would never have done that with Aegon around.

    • @MichaelMedici61W2
      @MichaelMedici61W2 Před rokem +7

      True, all very, very true

    • @minatodroger7890
      @minatodroger7890 Před rokem +11

      True that you know your badass when the starks say I saw his grandsire in when talking about jaehearys. Aegons respect was that strong. Hell vickon greyjoy told his son he will always be aegon's man.

    • @sultan7433
      @sultan7433 Před rokem

      He’s a top 4

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 Před rokem +1

      The blacks wasted the most dragons though. Greens were far more efficient.

    • @billychops1280
      @billychops1280 Před rokem +1

      @@Tonius126 not really the greens basically had 3 dragons fit for fighting especially after Helaena’s went nuts and sunfyre literally almost died in a 1v2 battle and as a bonus Vhagar (the largest living dragon) was on sunfyres side, so that especially wasn’t really efficient, Daeron who rode Tessarion basically met no dragon opposition until addam Velaryon (or waters) fought him and Daeron died before ever getting to his dragon and his dragon died in that same battle, the only dragon that really lasted on the greens side was Vhagar and that was because of her size, Vermithor and silverwing were originally on the blacks but switched sides of course and silverwing was smart and lucky enough to get out of it unscathed, but Vermithor of course died because he was riderless and attacked all dragons around him, ultimately winning the fight even without a rider but he died of his wounds. The blacks lost 2 dragons to a fair fight those being Maelys and Caraxes, Vermax was hooked and cut open on a sea battle and Lucerys’s dragon was of course cut in half by Vhagar, sea smoke went out fight a 1v3 battle and did very well honestly even if he died, and syrax basically died fighting the mobs of kingslanding,, and so did dreamfyre, honestly the side that wasted the most were the greens because not only did they target smaller dragons from the beginning but also wild ones towards the end like grey ghost and possibly the cannibal but no one really knows about that one

  • @franzreyes846
    @franzreyes846 Před rokem +61

    Quite shocked Daemon Targaryen isn't up there but great video as always!

    • @mysteryjunkie9808
      @mysteryjunkie9808 Před rokem +3

      Maegor the Cruel would be drinking from Daemon skull if they ever fought. Everything the Greens falsely accuse Daemon of being Maegor was.

    • @NRTHK-wv9sb
      @NRTHK-wv9sb Před rokem

      @@mysteryjunkie9808 Maegor was so powerful that he was murdered on his own throne after all the kingdoms rose against him

  • @paulcato3434
    @paulcato3434 Před rokem +40

    Awesome video! Your defense of each choice is very rational. I think Princess Rhaenyra also deserves honorable mention for the huge increase in dragons during her life that can't be a coincidence.

  • @fargoflagrant7796
    @fargoflagrant7796 Před rokem +3

    i love watching these videos, keep it up whycreate!

  • @Argos-xb8ek
    @Argos-xb8ek Před rokem +20

    Maegor and Bloodraven gotta be up here

  • @TastyGamingQc
    @TastyGamingQc Před rokem +10

    About the fireproof thing. GRR Martin seems to have made it part of the Valerian package. In recent interviews for house of the dragon (about 2/3 weeks from the moment I make this comment) he said that certain houses in Valyria with blood magic intertwined their DNA with those of dragons to make their taming easier and could be the cause of some rare ones displaying the ability to resist high temperatures.

  • @Balaji_G
    @Balaji_G Před rokem +4

    Bloodraven and visenya definitely has a spot but daenerys definitely not

  • @ethanharder5887
    @ethanharder5887 Před rokem +1

    Good video bro. Keep the content up i always enjoy your stuff

  • @damianhrnka9019
    @damianhrnka9019 Před rokem +97

    In my vision of honorable mentions, there should be Jaehaerys the Old King. To be fair his rule took place during no real conflicts, however, if some conflict appeared, he immediately took care of it.
    Edit: It depends on what you consider as power. To me, it is sort of a combination of wisdom, discipline, experience, and capability, all of which Jaehaerys had.

    • @edwinsoto6932
      @edwinsoto6932 Před rokem +10

      Definitely. In fact, I would argue Jaehaerys I deserves a spot in the top 3 far more than Daenerys.
      Jaehaerys I was an excellent warrior (said to have probably been able to defeat Maegor - arguably the greatest warrior of his time, and certainly one of the best - in combat), a gifted dragon rider with a very powerful mount, a shrewd and exceptional ruler, and a skilled negotiator, with (as you say) great wisdom (even in his early teens), experience, discipline, capability, and charisma.

    • @loplop019
      @loplop019 Před rokem +2

      @@edwinsoto6932 definitely deserved top 3 easy

  • @ursaber
    @ursaber Před rokem +7

    Aegon I, Maegor I, Visenya, Prince Daemon, Jaehaerys I, Daeron I, Daeron II, Daenerys I

  • @danybey4182
    @danybey4182 Před rokem +16

    Before watching (and ranking based on ruling capability, political Suaveness, prowess as a warrior, power/Charisma they most likely exuded) picks off the top of my head: Aegon the conqueror, Visenya sister-wife of the conqueror, and Daemon the Rogue Prince (or Maegor)
    Edit: I agree with your picks for your videos criteria

  • @qwopiretyu
    @qwopiretyu Před rokem +12

    Brynden Rivers. Best Targaryen isn't even a Targaryen by name

  • @tomperry5947
    @tomperry5947 Před rokem +1

    Man i love these videos, really make me fall in love with this universe

  • @googleuser244
    @googleuser244 Před rokem +9

    3:- Visenya
    2:-Brynden Rivers
    1:- Daemon the Rougue Prince

    • @-JT-543
      @-JT-543 Před rokem +3

      I feel like Aegon would have Visenya’s spot - he actually has the lords allegiance if he died without an heir they wouldn’t follow her.
      + has Balerion the black dread

    • @ousmanjallow7866
      @ousmanjallow7866 Před rokem

      w

  • @venkatesanab.com.-computer4377

    Brynden is 100% up there......but imo I think Daemon The Rogue Prince also deserves a spot

  • @Ivbo
    @Ivbo Před rokem +95

    Imagine if Rhaegar had a Dragon…he would’ve honestly been OP, he was also said to be one of the greatest fighters of his time.

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 Před rokem +35

      i don't know about a great fighter considering he got literally flatted by bobby B. honestly everything surrounding Rhaegar just sounds like either over blown rumors or complete lies. everyone of Rhaegar's actions completely contradict everything every targ supporter says of him.

    • @Applesols
      @Applesols Před rokem +20

      Everything about rhaegar is literally a fairy tale it got in his head and he was smashed with the hammer of reality

    • @Ivbo
      @Ivbo Před rokem +39

      @@Applesols Didn’t he damn near kill Robert that day, he badly wounded him before Robert even put a scratch on his armour, and Robert was also said to be an incredible warrior…Rhaegar was trained by one of the greatest swordsmen in the history of Westeros, that’s not a fairytale that’s a fact…I get that you don’t like him but to downplay him and call everything a fairytale when all the characters who literally knew him call him great is ridiculous, this isn’t some long lost ancestor that we know nothing but fairytales about, these are first hand accounts…calling them “fairytales” is utterly delusional.
      He was trained by the greatest swordsman in the seven kingdoms, he also beat everyone in that famous joust tourney where he gave the flowers to Lyanna, including Selmy. Rhaegar was a *great* Targaryen and no amount of downplaying changes that, the reverence to which people who knew him recall him is a testament to it.
      *”Swords win battles,” Ser Jorah said bluntly. “And Prince Rhaegar knew how to use one.” Barristan and Jorah seem to agree that Rhaegar was very capable and very dangerous.*

    • @Applesols
      @Applesols Před rokem +5

      @@Ivbo all you said about rhaegar became pointless the moment he died, this is westeros and one stray arrow means death regardless of all his feats and training

    • @Ivbo
      @Ivbo Před rokem +33

      @@Applesols So going by your logic, Ser Arthur Dayne doesn’t matter and isn’t the greatest swordsman literally ever because he died in battle…what is this line of thinking. Every great character ever died one way or another, as far as I’m concerned the ones that died in battle with a sword in their hand are the hardest and strongest of them all.
      If Rhaegar had a Dragon, he would’ve probably been the most well rounded and most dangerous of the lot. He easily had the best Kingsguard ever - Ser Arthur Dayne, Prince Lewyn Martell, Ser Jonothor Darry, Ser Gerold Hightower, Ser Oswell Whent, Ser Barristan Selmy and Ser Jaime Lannister…he was also himself a great warrior and swordsman, he was kind and well liked among all. Now, if you add a large Dragon onto all that he basically tops all the previous Targaryen’s.

  • @alfredborden5675
    @alfredborden5675 Před rokem

    This is by far my favorite channel

  • @rheanonjasmyne
    @rheanonjasmyne Před rokem +5

    Skillshare sounds awesome, maybe IF I were about 30 years younger, but I can't draw a straight line with a ruler !
    Visenya had Dark Sister, but I loved the idea of Rhaenys. In our D&D campaign my elven ranger has a Cooshee dog and I named her Visenya!

  • @sankarkrishnan407
    @sankarkrishnan407 Před rokem +10

    Perfect choices. Bloodraven is more powerful because he had both the blood of Valyria and Firstmen.

  • @ace93712
    @ace93712 Před rokem +27

    I think you nailed it perfectly @whycreate . Especially, Visenya. Sure she wasn't as 'strong ' as Aegon but she was a versatile and terrifying ruler. A true queen on the chess board who could do almost anything she wanted

    • @vulcan387
      @vulcan387 Před rokem +1

      Maegor could probably be a challenge up there as well.

    • @ace93712
      @ace93712 Před rokem +1

      @@vulcan387 like mother like son. But it is implied that she ‘birthed’ maegor thru sorcery

    • @noe842
      @noe842 Před 5 měsíci +1

      She was better than aegon actually

  • @josiahdavistv1216
    @josiahdavistv1216 Před rokem +11

    Strongest targ
    1 aegon the conquer
    2 visenya w vhagar
    3 daemon w caraxes
    4 rhanesys w meleys and sea snake fleet

    • @ousmanjallow7866
      @ousmanjallow7866 Před rokem +1

      w

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 Před rokem +1

      Agree Dany with all three of her dragons against Aegon with his one massive black dragon would lose. Aegon with his Black dragon was just too powerful.

    • @noe842
      @noe842 Před 5 měsíci

      @@michaelmichaelagnew8503nope

  • @lawrencereid2767
    @lawrencereid2767 Před rokem +1

    Great one sir

  • @anamkhan2603
    @anamkhan2603 Před rokem +7

    I think Daemon Targaryen “King of the stepstones & Narrow sea, Prince of the city, lord of flea bottom, Founder of the Gold cloaks, Wielder of dark sister, rider of Caraxes, and the rogue prince who took down Vhagar" should be a part of this list. I would definitely vote for him among the top 3.

  • @nicholasy140
    @nicholasy140 Před rokem +2

    Great video

  • @kaleye3989
    @kaleye3989 Před rokem +108

    I never have been 100% about this but the way I read it, Rhaenys didn't die, she was captured. That's why Dorne managed to maintain their independence - Having her as a hostage

    • @Ittheyzezermeowpurr
      @Ittheyzezermeowpurr Před rokem +7

      You think they would have let her stay hostage ? I think they would have demolished Dorne . But , everyone saw her fall off the dragon and die . Don’t you love that as much as we read , watch lore videos. And throw ideas together that the world is so great that we can’t know for sure on some things.

    • @mellohi2899
      @mellohi2899 Před rokem +9

      i think Dorne maintained their independence because they have a strong homogenous culture and they were unyielding. Aegon was mourning and tired of fighting

  • @DDLLDDLLDDLL
    @DDLLDDLLDDLL Před rokem +2

    I’d like to see you do more “3 most powerful “(Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, etc)

  • @ray5330
    @ray5330 Před rokem +5

    2:30 is that World of Westeros who joined the voice chat? lol

  • @nottellingyou14
    @nottellingyou14 Před rokem

    I like your videos because they’re short and well done.

  • @vanessaamesty6739
    @vanessaamesty6739 Před rokem

    Perfect list!

  • @jay_ooh
    @jay_ooh Před rokem +57

    I named my dog "Visenya" because of her....she was such an amazing Targaryen...hopefully "House of the Dragon" will give her more interest and exposure!

    • @AlexanderFromKC
      @AlexanderFromKC Před rokem +6

      HoD takes place 100 years after the conquest, so she might be mentioned due to her being a strong female figure, but I doubt she’ll get much exposure. Great character though, literally created the idea behind the White Cloaks.

    • @Alan-xg4yr
      @Alan-xg4yr Před rokem

      @@AlexanderFromKC the only exposure she got till now that she had the same sword as daemon ( dark sister)

    • @iwasagirlineldiadoingalrig7290
      @iwasagirlineldiadoingalrig7290 Před rokem

      @@Alan-xg4yr and that rhaenyra wanted to name her child and sibling Visenya.

  • @orashfordfranklin5814
    @orashfordfranklin5814 Před rokem +67

    A list of most powerful Targaryens without Aegon the conqueror is no list.

    • @joaovictorsimianersoder7514
      @joaovictorsimianersoder7514 Před rokem +48

      He wasn't even the more powerful of his siblings lol

    • @orashfordfranklin5814
      @orashfordfranklin5814 Před rokem +4

      @@joaovictorsimianersoder7514 yh sure

    • @AaronGuest
      @AaronGuest Před rokem +13

      @@joaovictorsimianersoder7514 Says who?

    • @joaovictorsimianersoder7514
      @joaovictorsimianersoder7514 Před rokem +1

      @@AaronGuest Joe

    • @andrewmcdonald6450
      @andrewmcdonald6450 Před rokem +8

      ​@@joaovictorsimianersoder7514 There's nothing that proves that. Visenya is said to almost be on par with with Aegon as a warrior, but even then I would still give Aegon the advantage with strength and having more experience in fights.(we don't see lots of times where visenya is fighting without here dragon besides the dorne assassin event) I would agree that she is defiantly more martial and decisive than Aegon but not really as a warrior as fair as we know.

  • @psyched3lic347
    @psyched3lic347 Před rokem +13

    Visenya is the Athena of the Targaryens and The Game of Thrones. She gets the job done and doesn't care about anything else but her family and the war. That is also why she lived for a while. I can't believe that all these characters was born from George R.R. Martin's mind. Amazing.

  • @TheDeadlyKnight
    @TheDeadlyKnight Před rokem +17

    Meraxes was larger than Vhagar when they were contemporaries. Vhagar at death had grown larger than Meraxes was & nearly was as large as The Black Dread

    • @xrexi4366
      @xrexi4366 Před rokem +1

      No it wasn't it wasn't even close to half his size

    • @Vlad95Chad
      @Vlad95Chad Před rokem

      No, Balerion is the only dragon that was born before the Doom

  • @TchallaShakur
    @TchallaShakur Před rokem

    Very good list.

  • @AF-hv4yy
    @AF-hv4yy Před rokem +3

    Well made list!
    Interesting that Visenya's tools/artifacts end up with complicated characters. (i.e. Vhagar with Aemond, Dark Sister ending up with Daemon & Brynden). Hopefully we get more material with her

  • @dankaczor8965
    @dankaczor8965 Před rokem +8

    I know the lord commander of the kingsguard is rather important during the Dance of the Dragons. I wouldn’t mind seeing what you think are the most influential and/or noteworthy lord commanders.

  • @WarriorGirl_113
    @WarriorGirl_113 Před rokem

    I enjoyed this vid!!! Thank's =-)

  • @TheRarook
    @TheRarook Před rokem

    Glad to see so many other fans of Visenya in this comments sections.

  • @rrated4063
    @rrated4063 Před rokem +6

    Blood raven is so bad ass. One true king.

  • @randy42000
    @randy42000 Před rokem +44

    1. aemon the dragonknight, possibly the best ever with a sword. 2. Maegor the cruel, the only survivor of the craziest 7v7 trial by combat ever....and had balerion. 3.Bloodraven, who might move up as we learn more about his powers, in both the main series and the dunk and egg series. Tough to rank, you could argue that anyone who didn't ride a dragon shouldn't be considered.

    • @ilbhaley79
      @ilbhaley79 Před rokem +2

      I think maegor may have been brought back by some kind of black magic. he was down for like 7 day afterwards.

    • @KateeAngel
      @KateeAngel Před rokem +3

      Bloodraven 100%

    • @randy42000
      @randy42000 Před rokem

      @@ilbhaley79 I just re-read that and thought the same, it could certainly played a factor in his inability to have kids

    • @user-kq5ci7ol8o
      @user-kq5ci7ol8o Před rokem +2

      @@randy42000 Actually, it's explicitly stated that the reason was cause one of his many wives kept poisoning the others, and this was proven by them saying "I already poisoned the one that is currently pregnant, so they're also gonna have a short lived abomination for a kid" and that was exactly what happened, so that's the more likely explanation, however, explanations for why he couldn't have kids aside (It does seem like being resurrected affects you more mentally than physically most of the time tbh), this might up Visenyas's placement given that it's theorized that she herself was the one who brought him back to like, combine that with the fact that she spent a lot of time alone doing whatever, that many people that she wanted dead died under mysterious circumstances even if she couldn't directly get her hands on them, and that she somehow outlived all her siblings despite being the oldest one (I mean, Rhaenys is whatever, but outliving Aegon for almost a decade is seen as suspicious within lore, however I guess you can explain this away with her being healthier and having more will power?), and I think that the rumors of dark magic weren't just rumors, which does beg the question, how powerful was it?

    • @randy42000
      @randy42000 Před rokem

      @@user-kq5ci7ol8o The more we learn about Visenya, the more we learn how much of a bad ass she was. We, unfortunately, don't know how OP she was with dark magic or with sword; she very well could be #1

  • @skyelerknight6509
    @skyelerknight6509 Před rokem +17

    Honestly I think Aemon the dragon knight should’ve been up there but that’s just me

    • @tristanlanphere7736
      @tristanlanphere7736 Před rokem +3

      same. One of the best duelists to ever live. Daemon Blackfyre's also great

  • @keirangrant1607
    @keirangrant1607 Před rokem +34

    Maegor might have saved the Targaryen dynasty. They were on the ropes there for a bit with the Faith, until Meager brought it to them and changed the Faith's stance on Targ marriages.
    But I like your list. I like that you included the more powerful Targaryens. Some people tend to overlook the women. And honestly you could have had an all female most powerful and most people would agree with your list.

    • @distantraveller9876
      @distantraveller9876 Před rokem +8

      Agreed, Maegor's ruthlessness combined with Balerion's firepower alone should earn him 1st spot. Maegor is basically the male equivalent of Cersei but with dragons, dude was insanely OP.

    • @b_de_silva
      @b_de_silva Před rokem +1

      Ehhh no he didn't, he almost ended Targaryen rule, his nephew aegon would have been a much better ruler than him, he was a good warrior and wasn't a maniac, Aegon was definitely not weak like his father aenys and wouldn't bow down to the faith, maegor is an usurper and a kinslayer who proved that being a strong ruler, being a good warrior and having a massive dragon doesn't matter when everyone around you hates youd.

    • @keirangrant1607
      @keirangrant1607 Před rokem +4

      @@b_de_silva I mean, thats your opinion and I appreciate it.
      When a king's lords and clergy are rebelling he has to make an example of someone to get them back in line. Aegon was being disrespected my his minor lords even and did nothing about it.
      Maegor got rid of the most extreme element of the Faith and pacified the realm.
      Being a king is not a popularity contest.
      And he didnt almost end Targ rule because they put another Tag on the throne after him. How in the world is that "almost ended Targ rule"?

    • @b_de_silva
      @b_de_silva Před rokem +2

      @@keirangrant1607 "he put another targ on the throne after him" are you serious? he was being deposed and was going to ride out to kill Jaehaerys as well, he didn't put Jaehaerys in the throne, Jaehaerys took it from him because nobody wanted maegor as king.

    • @keirangrant1607
      @keirangrant1607 Před rokem +2

      @@b_de_silva I didnt say "he put another tag on the throne after him", I said "they", as in all of the Targaryen supporters. And Jaehaerys had a lot less to contend with when he was crowned.
      Fire Ball was all but shattered. He broke down crying when he realized the crown wanted peace. Maegor broke him

  • @wyattrota9070
    @wyattrota9070 Před rokem +8

    I feel like aegon should be on the list

  • @hardiksolanki8093
    @hardiksolanki8093 Před rokem

    Totally agree with this list. Some real OGs up here.

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 Před rokem +3

    0:20 Visenya Targaryen looks like actress Liz May Brice. I am looking forward to House of the Dragon and seeing Matt Smith in action for the first time as Daemon Targaryen.

  • @apollorushing3611
    @apollorushing3611 Před rokem +1

    I love this content

  • @shannond7437
    @shannond7437 Před rokem +3

    I don’t think it was that Aegon was “just that likeable” as much as they didn’t want to be Harren Hoare’d 😹

  • @prashant10.
    @prashant10. Před rokem +3

    Aegon’ conquest with Henry Cavill as Aegon and Angelina Jolie as Visenya and Margot Robbie as Rhaenys.

  • @marilyndafeta3064
    @marilyndafeta3064 Před rokem +9

    Daenerys will ALWAYS be the strongest!🔥🔥👌✌️

  • @liliman-moli615
    @liliman-moli615 Před rokem +2

    You know what I don't quite understand, why everybody loves what Aegon did, conquerer 7th kingdoms by fire and blood, and condemn "Daenarys' madness", are the same thing though , both are conquerors not rulers.
    Rulers were his sisters, Daenarys needs faithful parteners.

  • @db4517
    @db4517 Před rokem +6

    Visenya bloodraven and maegor are the srongest all three were great warriors, commanders and had connections to magic

  • @francisabellana445
    @francisabellana445 Před rokem +4

    Guess that answers why Visenya is a heroine of Arya Stark

  • @magister343
    @magister343 Před 11 měsíci +1

    We don't know much about him other that his name and appellation, but I have a feeling Gaemon the Glorious must have been very powerful to have earned that name.

  • @mysteryjunkie9808
    @mysteryjunkie9808 Před rokem +1

    Maegor the Cruel not on here? Dude was a perfect mix of Aegon and Viseyna

  • @MiscellaneousAB
    @MiscellaneousAB Před rokem +13

    I'm confused to why people would question you listing Visenya as one of the most powerful targs...maybe I'm missing something...

    • @archeogeek315
      @archeogeek315 Před rokem

      I personally think it’s because of Maegor existence in thermes of power he outclass her in fighting and in dragon riding.

    • @MiscellaneousAB
      @MiscellaneousAB Před rokem

      @@archeogeek315 That maybe so, but still, that wouldn't nullify Visenya's power...if anything, Maegor's power would seemingly add to hers. She still deserves to be considered one of the most powerful targs.

    • @archeogeek315
      @archeogeek315 Před rokem

      @@MiscellaneousAB She is one of the most powerfull Targarien, but I don't see why Maegor's power would add to hers it's like saying her power add's to Agons power. It dosen't make any sense when we are talking about individual power.

    • @MiscellaneousAB
      @MiscellaneousAB Před rokem

      @@archeogeek315 LOL I guess we'll have to disagree because I definitely think her power adds to Aegon...I mean they conquered together with Rhaneys. Simple Teamwork. Individually, none of this matters and Visenya STILL is one of the most powerful targs without anyone's help, regardless if the other two guys are powerful on their own. Again, It shouldn't have been questioned, as I stated in my original comment. She would definitely be missed in the story if she was never a part of the conquest. And Maegor would even exist lol.

    • @noe842
      @noe842 Před 5 měsíci

      @@archeogeek315lol how do you know? he was not as smart and as powerful in fact he would probably be dead if she was not there (dark magic)

  • @steadydropnem
    @steadydropnem Před rokem +2

    My list would be
    #1 Maegor the Cruel
    #2 Aemon the DragonKnight
    #3 Daemon the Rouge Prince

  • @catherined2876
    @catherined2876 Před rokem

    Absolutely love this list!! yes to all of them!

  • @brianlindee220
    @brianlindee220 Před rokem +2

    they should do a show on this given the popularity of house of the dragon

  • @KateeAngel
    @KateeAngel Před rokem +4

    1. Aegon +Visenya + Rhaenys
    2. Jaehaerys I + Alysanne
    3. Bloodraven

  • @crystalpistey-lyhne3406
    @crystalpistey-lyhne3406 Před rokem +3

    Visenya reminds of many Celtic and English Queens and Catrina OF Aaragon Or
    Morgana Of Camelot!🤔😱🤗💪👸

  • @christiangeorge5867
    @christiangeorge5867 Před rokem

    You’re the smoothest talking person ever dude.

  • @plokamias_
    @plokamias_ Před rokem

    Good vid. Did not appreciate the long ad in the middle of thevid.

  • @Hash_kw
    @Hash_kw Před rokem +1

    i hope we see a spinoff of the blackfyre rebellion

  • @bharat4956
    @bharat4956 Před rokem

    Can’t wait for HOD

  • @luisjuarez7291
    @luisjuarez7291 Před rokem +1

    Visenya looking like Dee Reynolds in the thumbnail

  • @playea123
    @playea123 Před rokem +4

    1. Aegon I
    2. Jaehaerys I
    3. Visenya

  • @lawrencereid2767
    @lawrencereid2767 Před rokem +4

    Daemon should be in the top ten

  • @Zehahahaa
    @Zehahahaa Před rokem +2

    Brynden Rivers was so OP without having a dragon

  • @michaelclark4062
    @michaelclark4062 Před rokem +2

    If aegons conquest comes to tv I'd like eva green to play visenya she's got ruthlessness in spades after seeing her in 300 rise of a empire and i could picture her with silver hair

  • @AlerieHightower
    @AlerieHightower Před rokem +4

    Visenya is my girl! I hope we get to see her onscreen at some point. The only cosplay I've ever done was as Queen V at Con of Thrones in 2019.

  • @JeremyIceAndFire33
    @JeremyIceAndFire33 Před rokem +13

    Vhagar was actually the 3rd biggest Dragon, Balerion & Maraxes were the bigger two with Vhagar being the smallest of the three.

    • @chriskareem5723
      @chriskareem5723 Před rokem +6

      it’s said by the time of the dance of dragons that Vhagar grew to Balerions size though

    • @JeremyIceAndFire33
      @JeremyIceAndFire33 Před rokem +2

      @@chriskareem5723 true, but by then Balerion & Meraxes were both already dead. When all 3 were alive, Vhagar was the smallest of the 3

    • @chriskareem5723
      @chriskareem5723 Před rokem +7

      @@JeremyIceAndFire33 yes you’re right but if you’re on about the 3rd biggest of all time, then technically Maraxes would’ve been the 3rd biggest as Maraxes never grew to Balerions size in contrast to Vhagar who did grow to Balerions size.

    • @JeremyIceAndFire33
      @JeremyIceAndFire33 Před rokem +1

      @@chriskareem5723 true, but it's kind of a false comparison, we have no idea how big Meraxes would've been if she hadn't been killed far earlier than Vhagar

    • @chriskareem5723
      @chriskareem5723 Před rokem +7

      @@JeremyIceAndFire33 yes true BUT it’s likely if all dragons lived as long as Balerion and Vhagar then they’d grow to their sizes, measuring there sizes is mostly taken at the biggest they grew hence why Balerion and Vhagar are the biggest/grew to be the largest. Meraxes would’ve definitely grew to Balerions and Vhagars size but seeing as Meraxes died we can only measure her size based on how big she grew to in comparison to Vhagar who grew to bigger as she lived longer

  • @dennisyoungblood7752
    @dennisyoungblood7752 Před rokem +2

    The Three Eyed Raven is show only, in the books, he is the Three Eyed Crow. Great video though

  • @nikdik154
    @nikdik154 Před rokem +4

    Daemon should he here. Any day.

  • @raysha9932
    @raysha9932 Před rokem +3

    This is the show i would love to watch so bad i want to see some Targeryan women fighting with a sword

  • @AnonyMous-vs2tq
    @AnonyMous-vs2tq Před rokem

    Hi at 2:30 there’s background audio that distracts the viewer from your dialogue for a few seconds.

  • @RaptorRocka
    @RaptorRocka Před rokem

    Lol Jamie coming in to talk over you

  • @i.turn.tables6455
    @i.turn.tables6455 Před rokem

    Visenya looks nearly identical to Dee in “IASIP” in the art.

  • @Jetsfan38
    @Jetsfan38 Před 6 měsíci

    Lord Bloodraven is my favorite character period!

  • @MrDavidSosa
    @MrDavidSosa Před rokem +24

    Daenerys can resist fire, is one of her abilities and she did it twice in the show, is well know that she is a very magical character.

    • @Yuno-rr5bw
      @Yuno-rr5bw Před rokem +10

      Only in the show. In the books Dany was never fire proof it only occurred once. During Drogo's funeral pyre in which blood magic was involved because she burned the witch together with Drogo and the magic that the dragon eggs contributed.

    • @stass2933
      @stass2933 Před rokem +1

      Not in the books, in the books was one time thing at the pyre due to blood magic, but she still can burn

    • @MrDavidSosa
      @MrDavidSosa Před rokem

      @@stass2933 but she did it again, when she killed the other Dothraki, Daenerys touched a hot torch and she resisted, this is why I don’t believe what your saying. Is not a “one thing”

    • @nikesh9157
      @nikesh9157 Před rokem +2

      @@MrDavidSosa that happened only in the show

    • @continentalextinction
      @continentalextinction Před rokem

      the video is about the books

  • @michaelkean5969
    @michaelkean5969 Před rokem +5

    you forgot about the long lost Targaryan who instead of using dragon iconography he uses a hawk and leads a mercenary band and totally did nothing wrong.........oh wait wrong dark fantasy series.

  • @siyarg.4900
    @siyarg.4900 Před rokem +5

    I dont know how to feel about Visenya over Aegon... Because if we're including their soldiers/people yada yada yada, Aegon comes with Visenya, ultimately she did serve him (+ he'd also come with the whole of conquered Westeros).
    Buy 1 get a FUCK-ton for free

  • @user-ii1dm2gr4w
    @user-ii1dm2gr4w Před 10 měsíci

    Not a mention of blood raven being a Blackwood. That's where his powers come from

  • @RegTarg011
    @RegTarg011 Před rokem +1

    I think Bloodraven killed the Blackfyre, so he can be sentenced to death/send to the wall. Pretty sure he told Egg that this 'must be', as well.. Seen the glimpse of future.

  • @Rhys-jd1kt
    @Rhys-jd1kt Před rokem

    2:29 spooky. I thought I heard a ghost🤣🤣🍺👍

  • @tylercruse2402
    @tylercruse2402 Před rokem +1

    Bloodraven was most likely in contact with Euron

  • @sakethvelikanti3917
    @sakethvelikanti3917 Před rokem

    lord bloodraven needs a series of his own. he is the only Targaryen to have the northmen blood and thus have greenseer abilities. only jonsnow could be more cooler if he gets to ride a dragon along with having green sight

  • @jaqjynx
    @jaqjynx Před rokem

    Visenya is awwwwwwwesome. Warrior Queen.

  • @m_squizzy1091
    @m_squizzy1091 Před rokem

    Visenya looks like shes from always sunny in philidelphia😭

  • @KatarHero72
    @KatarHero72 Před rokem

    My top 7 in no order were Aegon, Visenya, Jaeherys, Daemon, Bloodraven, Daenerys, and Aemond.