Roy Harper- Hors D’Oeuvres (REACTION//DISCUSSION)
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Roy Harper, pure genius.
This album just gets better as you get into it. For me, it is the most beautiful ever recorded. Roy Harper is the godfather of UK music. He is unique.
The least of the four tracks on this utter masterpiece of an album, on its own, this opener gives no clue of the genius to come.
Edit: I wrote this comment before watching the whole video, lol.
Roy considers himself first and foremost a poet. He's a genius on guitar, and there are many songs that show that. But in service of his poem he will make the guitar parts very simple so that the words take center stage at times. The main guitar part in this song is very sort of circular. It descends down and down, circles back up, and keeps going on. It's a sort of hypnotic type of approach. Similar, to me, in how Cortez the Killer by Neil Young is just three chords played over and over again into infinity. Albeit with some great soloing over top. This particular song is a mix of two things: The first half is referencing the justice system. There are judges (12 judges for a stab at religion), the courtroom, etc. It was referencing some infamous case of a wrongfully convicted man at that time that I can't recall. The second half of the song is a swing at the music critics. Roy famously wrote a 27 page letter (somewhere in the twenties) to some music critic who had poorly reviewed his music. The critic had said something to the effect of "Roy has all these complaints of the world but doesn't have a grand panacea or solution to these problems." Hence the "He says this singer's just a farce, he's got no healing formulas, he's got no cure all for our scars."
Also, this album is considered possibly Roy's best. It's got four long songs, Jimmy Page is featured on the Same Old Rock playing guitar along Roy. But it was somewhat of a failure because EMI ran out of money for marketing by the time it was ready. I actually met Roy at a VIP session before a concert back in 2016 and he spoke about how Hors D’Oeuvres was supposed to be a lot more than it ended up being, more of a rock anthem sort of song. But as you can tell, they were a bit limited. Some guitar, some organ/keyboard, and a lot of vocal layering and reverb has always been Roy's bread and butter. Live versions of this song are also great because he puts a lot more bite into the lyrics.
Well written, my friend.
ahh roy harper seen him many times been a fan of his for around 30 years very underatted guitarist love him
@@Katehowe3010 😆 thats what ive been listening to over the last few weeks i like the fact that not a lot of people know about roy outwith the pink floyd/have a cigar thing who i also love , when people say what music do you like eh pink floyd ,led zeppelin, kings of leon ,steriophonics etc etc then i say roy harper ,they are like 🤔 who??? and im like yeah you ll never know 🤣🏴
@@Katehowe3010 i like that way it makes roy feel a bit more personal like a wee secret
@@Katehowe3010 🤫shhhh 🏴🤣🤣
Please stick with this album as it just gets better and better. One of the classic albums of the 70s . ‘Same old rock’ and ‘Me and my woman’ are so inventive in both their guitar and vocal delivery and in their production. Remember guys this was a pre digital 1971 album.
What a wonderful singer/songwriter Roy Harper is! I discovered his music by accident. I was at Guildford Festival in the late 90s and he was playing. I knew he was a friend of Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull so I thought I’d wander over to the acoustic stage and listen. It was just after he released Dream Society (which is a lovely album).
The first thing I noticed was the mount of marijuana being smoked in the audience. Guildford Festival tended to tent in the audience with a vast canopy, which meant that the smoke didn’t drift away. It just hung suspended over the audience in a thick, dense fug. I’ve never smoked the stuff and I don’t know if it’s actually possible to get high on other people’s smoke, but I certainly felt a little bit more ‘relaxed’.
Harper, for much of his life, was taking drugs but at some point he had given it up and by the time he released Dream Society he took an anti-drug stance. He had written a new song called ‘Drugs For Everybody’ which was about a period of his life when he was partaking, but is really critical of the whole drugs scene. Roy had grown up, but the audience hadn’t taken the same journey. He announced he was singing this new song and when he gave the title a group of guys let out a cheer. I’ve never seen an artist turn on his audience so quickly! He really had a go at the high loudmouths. Tore shreds off them.
I later learned that this was nothing unusual. He doesn’t take shit from people, doesn’t tolerate hecklers, and if he thinks the audience is being disrespectful he very quickly cuts them down to size!
Naturally I fell in love with his music and delved back into his earlier material. But Dream Society was the first Roy Harper album I ever heard and I’ll always have a soft spot for it, but Stormcock is a truly great album.
Hats off to roy harper, his complete work is so much worth exploring! He influenced me like only peter gabriel and peter hammill does. I think "A Lords Prayer" on Lifemask is his strongest one.
OH MY GOD....!!! You've come back to Roy.... YOU LEGEND... This one is the most difficult of the album I think but you "get it"... it's not bombastic or a regular rock song.... It's exactly what you say... subtle. And as for words there is a meaning to it but Roy is all about imagery in his lyrics. And the individual listener can take what he wants from the imagery... I think i'm right that you said you were going to carry on with this album... I really hope you do the rest of the tracks are bangers. With all of Roy's subtlety, meaning and imagery..
Re your opening comments: "I thought Stormcock was a bush but it's a bird" Sigmund Freud has ceased spinning in his grave, is nodding thoughtfully and taking notes.
Meanwhile - Roy Harper - by no means everyone's taste. I could understand people disliking his (some say whiny, I say honest) voice but the guitar and other backing is delicate and tuneful. The lyrics are clever and yes, of their time. Roy Harper is very much part of rock music's rich tapestry. My favourite of his is 'Twelve Hours of Sunset'. Sublime.
Roy Harper is best described as the artists artist. He’s played with Kate Bush, Dave Gilmour, had songs covered by Peter Gabriel and had a song named after him on Led Zeppelin 3.
His words are more suited to poetry than lyrics but man can he write a song that makes you think.
“I Hate The White Man” is one of his best with some deep deep lyrics to it and well worth checking out.
Lovin the ‘Heads moves at the end Justin ...😁
This is a terrific album. If you get around to more Roy Harper there's another song of his to check out, When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease
I love Flat Baroque And Berserk album by Roy Harper.
It is well worth your time to dig deeper into his work. For your next track, I recommend Once which features Gilmour and Kate Bush. In no specific order, I also recommend Garden Of Uranium, Same Shoes, Miles Remains, Don't You Grieve, Another Day (which was covered by Bush and Peter Gabriel in a duet that you can find on YT), Tom Tiddler's Ground, Highway Blues, Nineteen Forty-Eightish (with Jimmy Page), Ten Years Ago, One Of Those Days In England (with Paul and Linda McCartney on backing vocals), The Spirit Lives, Referendum Legend, Berliners (with Gilmour), Ghost Dance, Me And My Woman, The Fly Catcher (with Gilmour), You (The Game Part II) (which also features Bush and Gilmour), Old Faces (with Gilmour), Short And Sweet (with Gilmour, and also is a song that Gimour recorded his own separate version), Hope (with Page), and Hangman (with Page)...
I agree, but you forgot Commune, which is one of my favourite songs by anyone! And what about 12 hours of Sunset?
@@martinpaterson6535 You might observe that there is an ellipsis at the end of both of my comments...
@@Katehowe3010 Yes indeed. I'm not sure Forbidden Fruit is worth the risk in these changed times. Just noticed you missed Old Cricketer, too, but you could hardly list his entire catalogue! Time for me to mention Kevin Coyne, again, though. Justin should dip into his highly distinctive, unsettling and extraordinary set of songs, too.
@@CthulhuWaitsDreaming I did observe - this is a collaboration, I was picking up the baton, and not expecting you to do all the running. Have you seen the film "Made" starring RH, by the way? I wish it would be restored and re-released. I saw it once on TV long ago, and it made a big impact on me.
@@martinpaterson6535 I would have added a :) to my last comment but then my second comment would not have ended in an ellipsis :) I have not seen Made but definitely would watch it.
Lovely album, the next track 'The Same Old Rock' is a favourite of mine (Jimmy Page on acoustic guitar).
I don't think I've seen a Roy Harper reaction before - kudos to you.
Sounds like Roy playing guitar stepping down and down and down… a staircase. Like his background vocals, very inventive.
Looking forward to more.
Wait, what just happened… uhhh.
One thing, us older cusses that made it through classic rock, new wave punk, disco, and later stuff, know some dance moves you youngins need to learn. Some of yawls moves are weird…
Peace and Music
Love to see you dancing on Talking Heads !!!
😋
This album is 4 amazing tracks, and the fourth is the best. His strongest one ever. Enjoy!
Reminds me a lot of Donovan.
My first thought was Donovan. The guitar and his vocal style on this made me think of "Hurdy Gurdy Man". Definitely not the worst thing ever. The song is a bit draggy. Cockburn has the same issue on some of his lesser tracks but Harper doesn't emphasize it will a dull percussion line so it isn't as painful. The lyrics are pretty good. I wouldn't mind hearing more of Roy Harper.
Roy Harper on vocals with Pink Floyd. czcams.com/video/Zyj1K5Lyr_Y/video.html
Definitely Donovan on this one.
Listen to McGoohan's blues.
Heyyo, when will you be reacting to Side 2 of 'Turn of a friendly card?"
Stormcock is a bird that sings into the wind, futilely. Metaphor.
I love this album
Nice acoustic guitar - I would like it better if Roy would have changed things up a bit, and introduced more instruments later in the song. There's a tiny bit of Leslied electric guitar at the end.
why am I only seeing uploads from no more than two weeks ago?
I'm just going to keep throwing these out there. As an Easter treat how bout The The's cover of the Hank Williams song "I Saw The Light"
Hi Justin, getting itchy for the next track? hope it wont be too long before you progress through this amazing album.
Easily my least favorite track on "Stormcock," which is on the whole a terrific album. I remember liking the song a lot and finding it powerful the first time I heard it, in concert (in 1973, I think)-but it does get kind of draggy, in my opinion. Especially on repeated listens. What I love about Harper is how he always puts his heart on the line, while being musically complex and inventive. After his first three albums he really paid attention to production values. His lyrics can get pretty incoherent, but he is so intense about them! Lyrically, as in performance, he was just a firecracker and you never knew quite how he was going to go off.
@@Katehowe3010 In Bournemouth, in England, sitting on the floor about twenty feet from him. I don't recall why, but the college crowd wasn't particularly attentive-he may have been a support act-I remember sitting in the same spot listening to Cat Stevens-and eventually he plugged in and blew us away with an extended "Hell's Angels." I really regret only seeing him once. I had friends who saw him multiple times and insisted that his live shows just got better and better "except sometimes he was too wasted." I was obsessed with him during my college years.
Christian, get the beer and bunting out! 😁
..you guys! 😆
First time hearing, so genuine reaction...
Hmmm. It gets a little whiny from the middle onwards. Perhaps the tone suits the mood of the lyrics, so I'd have to know what he's whining on about to match everything up. If the rest of the album enforces this melancholia throughout? Not impressed if so. However, I'm staying optimistic that it might pick up a bit after establishing the opening mood.
I just know that if I experienced hors d'oeuvres like this, the rest of the meal had better damn well make up for it.
No one does melancholy and pained recollection better than Roy but hang on in there as the fish course and the dessert are brilliant.
Sophisticated beggar album is classic.
Roy sings on breathing by kate bush. Kate bush is a big fan of roy.