Roy Harper- The Same Old Rock (REACTION & REVIEW)

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  • čas přidán 17. 08. 2022
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Komentáře • 89

  • @Habichiwoowoo
    @Habichiwoowoo Před rokem +7

    Mostly you bought the rock for the booklet that came with it. It was a charmingly humorous guide on how to care for your new pet. Rather clever actually.
    I had one for awhile. Until he ran off to return to the desert to live his authentic life with his own kind. I am happy to report he found a nice sedimentary sweetheart and established a lovely garden with his prodigious progeny.

  • @lukashislop5890
    @lukashislop5890 Před rokem +4

    By the way if you didn’t know, a pretty unknown guitarist guests stars on this song… jimmy page lol

  • @shemanic1
    @shemanic1 Před rokem +4

    Roy Harper has been a big part of my musical upbringing. His guitar work, singing & sometimes biting lyrics grabbed a hold on my heart. I have seen him many times. Try his "I Hate The White Man" or "How Does It Feel" for the sheer passion, "Tom Tiddlers Ground" or "East Of The Sun" for gentler beautiful songs.

  • @scifimonkey3
    @scifimonkey3 Před rokem +6

    Actually I just found this from Roy himself responding to a music critic ----…………. The first half of the introduction, (‘All along the ancient wastes the thin reflections spin, that gather all the times and tides at once we love within, that build the edges round the shrouds that cloud the setting sun, and carry us to other days, and other days to one..), where the scene for the song is set, speaks about human emotion in the huge context of love, life, portent and culture being handed down from antiquity. The second half of that intro attempts to bring that general thought down to the personal; from plural to singular, from general human to personal being ‘….and full the single stillness of the mirror that is made, by each and every one of all the colours in a shade, inside each eye is sitting like the sword inside the blade, and longs for once upon a chance to open love’s cascade, for here we stand, hand to hand, fighting for the promised land’.
    These two verses, put together as they are, attempt a poetic analogy of a movement in time and scale, of vision and awareness in humanity, for peace and rationale; added to which, the old English way of making a sword, by repeatedly folding the metal in on itself under intense heat, is so personal and so exacting a process as to provide another fitting analogy to the singularity of individual vision that comprises general human awareness. The sword inside the blade. The actual innate sword inside the personal blade. The eternal sword inside the mortal blade. But this lyric has even more than that going for it; it also has unspoken movement, it says “Ready”, which you can think of as an admirable trait within the human character. The sword inside the blade is always “ready”. The sharp eye is motivated. Mirrored in billions. In its most perfect readiness it sits, in the socket, in the sheath, relaxed, in permanent readiness. Ready to see. Ready to defend. Ready to strike. Ready to make peace. Ready to own up. Ready to become a better human. As ready, as sharp as the inner eye that guides it. For good or ill, but hopefully, in this instance, for more treaty and understanding among the unthinking superstitious. Among the multitudes of armed religious antipathists, that they may eventually be able to recognize a different expression of humanity other than one that breeds war and boasts submission to dogma. There are different cadences of meaning here. To attempt to explain them all in this place would be fruitless. Suffice to say that there are the historical, philosophical, moral, metaphysical, political and, at the end, among many, even the hopeful………….. Most poets hope to achieve work that says more than the sum of its words. One of the first things that you get to know when you start to work with words is that all they can really be are indicators. At which point, you’re out on your own limb. As most of us know, the human capacity to abstract its own world works outside of the constraint of mere words. ………….make of it what you will.

  • @royharp2930
    @royharp2930 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hats of Roy legend

  • @williamgeorgefraser
    @williamgeorgefraser Před rokem +6

    Dear Justin, just wait till you get to "Me and My Woman" which takes it to yet another level. I don't have the words to express how much I love this album which I discovered 50 years ago. I don't know if it is my No1 favourite album (there are so many I love) but it certainly is the most beautiful one. One man, his guitar, his voice and a remarkable talent for writing music and poetry.

    • @craigchalloner153
      @craigchalloner153 Před rokem

      One of the best (mostly) acoustic songs ever. So moody and atmospheric

    • @AntonyFleck
      @AntonyFleck Před 6 měsíci +1

      Whenever I caught Roy live
      It was a revelation!
      The Man, a force of nature!
      Doesn't matter how stoned he was (we all were)
      Without fail he always conjured up a Transcendental Sonic Storm!!!...

  • @jamie.murray
    @jamie.murray Před měsícem

    A great video! You really captured instantly the nuances in this wonderful song. Then brilliantly conveyed what is describes musically and emotionally, very enjoyable and a massive thumbs up.

  • @markspooner1224
    @markspooner1224 Před rokem +2

    Great words JP for a great track, big thumbs.

  • @ddarien951
    @ddarien951 Před rokem +2

    So great to see you reacting to more Harper. Such an acquired taste but so worth acquiring. I am vey excited for you to finish Stormcock and get a taste of the rest.

  • @An_Cat_Dubh
    @An_Cat_Dubh Před rokem +1

    Roy Harper, nice. Big influence on Page and Plant.

  • @glensheppard71
    @glensheppard71 Před rokem

    Finally - Roy Harper!

  • @garnetnewton-wade4091
    @garnetnewton-wade4091 Před 8 měsíci

    This was his masterpiece

  • @Morthoron1
    @Morthoron1 Před rokem +1

    Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the guest guitarist on this song "S. Flavius Mercurius" is, in fact, Jimmy Page (who because of legal issues between labels had to be incognito).

  • @ZalMoxis
    @ZalMoxis Před rokem +1

    i have this on vinyl still...

  • @jaybird4093
    @jaybird4093 Před rokem

    Beneath the Brine was one of the first videos I watched on JPMP. It’s been on a playlist ever since! I’ve been following you ever since, too!

  • @ReeceTatarka
    @ReeceTatarka Před rokem +1

    The new "lock" is religion. This is the singer being presented with yet another new religion. "And you try to warn me that there's only one combination." And you try to tell me, on top of that, that there's only one God. One new sling (a new religion) the same old rock (the same message, the same rules, the same warnings, the same hatred, the same violence, the same unhappiness, and all the other things that come with religion.).

  • @Mixatonic
    @Mixatonic Před rokem

    Roy gave an interview where he told the story of meeting Jimmy Page for the first time (at the Bath Festival in 1970):
    ‘This guy had come up to me earlier on and said, "You know your album, Sophisticated Beggar? Can you play that instrumental, Blackpool?" So I played it. He said, "Great, fantastic, thanks," and walked away, and all I thought was, "That guy's pants are too short for him." Later in the day, this band [Led Zeppelin] came on stage. I looked at the guitarist and realised it was him. I didn't know much about Jimmy Page at the time, it was just a name. I was surprised to find that he was a fan of mine.”
    And I have to agree that “Blackpool” is a “great, fantastic” song. It is one of my favorites, along with “One for All” (check out the phenomenal live-in-studio performance video from 1969).
    Also, Roy has a son named Nick Harper, who rivals his dad’s talents. His song “The Magnificent G7”, from his first release in 1998, is chills down the spine beautiful.

    • @HippoYnYGlaw
      @HippoYnYGlaw Před rokem

      I went to a Nick Harper gig next to the Millennium Stadium in 98. I have since misplaced the CD i bought that night, but whenever i hear his name i recall his guitar playing technique which involved playing oscillating notes by turning the machine heads mid-song.
      The songs themselves were certainly decent attempts at deciphering the meaning of liff in the late 90s, but my dedication to Stephen Duffy and Jackie Leven at the time meant that no amount of guitar gymnastics could elevate him to super singer songwriter status, for me personally that is.
      (Much like this song on this video actually.)

  • @CthulhuWaitsDreaming
    @CthulhuWaitsDreaming Před rokem +1

    I've posted a long list of recommended Roy Harper tracks in comments on previous videos. If you like this one you will love those.

  • @phillyflyer12
    @phillyflyer12 Před rokem +1

    I can hear remarkable similarities with Ian Anderson's acoustic work.

  • @MrFtoudalk
    @MrFtoudalk Před rokem +1

    Nice reaction.... Harper was an inspiration!

  • @michaelcapewell4811
    @michaelcapewell4811 Před rokem +1

    How about doing another epic with a J Page guest appearance? Al Stewart’s Love Chronicles…🤔👍

  • @jamespaivapaiva4460
    @jamespaivapaiva4460 Před rokem +1

    Not going to be a long comment, too sick this week to wax poetic! Simply wanted to say thanks for the acoustic side of things. Croce & Harper sooth the soul and stimulate the grey matter! Peace & health, respect & wealth to you. Could not help myself sometimes the words, they spew!

  • @MinorCirrus
    @MinorCirrus Před rokem +2

    Well you said you were looking at the personnel and I'm not sure where, but I'm surprised you didn't bring up at all the fact that the lead guitar is provided by one Jimmy Page , who was, by all accounts, really having a good acoustic guitar year in 1971.
    As per the lyrics, they tap into Harper's anarchist ideology, made really clear in his "for fear that good is something bad is not". The chorus makes me think of the theory that private property is inherently theft: you get given a brand new lock, but see there is, once again, only one combination. So it's about something that isn't supposed to be shared, which is primordial violence in his views. Hence the "one new sling, the same old rock".
    I cannot wait to see you react to Me And My Woman, the crowning jewel of this fantastic album. And then it will be time for McGoohan's Blues, One Of Those Days in England pts 2-10, When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease, etc.
    Lots of gems in Roy's discography.

  • @gaiaeternal5131
    @gaiaeternal5131 Před rokem +1

    Afternoon, Justin, Dave from Blighty. You playing songs like this is One Good Reason I tune in most days. It's a long time since I've heard this but isn't it Jimmy Page playing at the end? It's long, sure, but I really like this Dylanesque song, sung much better than the Bobster imho! It also reminds me of another emotional song like Life in a Bottle you played yesterday. It's When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease, another by Roy, and a metaphor for life and death, and often played at English funerals over the years.
    P.S. my song ref One Good Reason is by Paul Carrack.

  • @scifimonkey3
    @scifimonkey3 Před rokem +3

    As you would expect , if @Jfergs dislikes it……….I LOVE IT. I am happy to listen to albums back to back of that acoustic guitar and the folk prog vibe. Plus unlike Dylan, Roy can actually sing.

    • @jfergs.3302
      @jfergs.3302 Před rokem +1

      But I did like it... well, for about 4.5 mins anyway 🙂

  • @AntonyFleck
    @AntonyFleck Před 7 měsíci

    Enjoy your reactions
    After seeing how you appreciated this incredible piece of music by Roy
    You should check this out
    'Roy Harper and Jimmy Page at St Ives hotel 1984' playing this song to an audience of 30 people, its wonderful!!...

    • @JustJP
      @JustJP  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks Antony!

  • @kellydelay18
    @kellydelay18 Před rokem +1

    Sang on Pink Floyd have a cigar ?

  • @johnpbh
    @johnpbh Před rokem

    Roy's words are all about imagery that you yourself find in the lyrics... I think anyway... Especially in the majority of his longer songs... This track is very reminiscent of the sort of playing you get from him live... (Only managed to see him 6 times). I been listening to this song and this album for 45 years and I still get goosebumps... I do hope you are listening to him still in the far distant future. Keep on rocking.

  • @stephenhodges3350
    @stephenhodges3350 Před rokem

    Pet rocks are all very well but you beed to remember that a rock is for life and not just for Christmans!

  • @scifimonkey3
    @scifimonkey3 Před rokem +1

    I think this song certainly in the middle is referring to John the Baptist. ( a preacher who did not feel the pain and was destined to lose his head- literally) I feel Roy is saying that it was Christianity that was fanning the flames of war and the brand new lock is a new religion that is presented as different but will have the same violent effect on its followers. The song is essentially anti- religious (not just Christianity but all of them).

  • @pauldenby878
    @pauldenby878 Před rokem

    Roy used to have a pet rock.. that's what this song is about! In truth, pet rocks were a thing in the late seventies in America. It was a rock with googly eyes and came with an adoption certificate. You couldn't walk them though.

  • @maruad7577
    @maruad7577 Před rokem

    The Pet Rock was a gag. If people took them for walks them they were just playing along with the gag. Roy's voice is so familiar. Apparently he was very influential. I see he played skiffle when he was young. IIRC so did Lennon/McCartney among others, being their introduction into blues. Hmmm... quite a good guitarist apparently (or someone is). Spanish influences in that guitar work.

  • @canucklehead11
    @canucklehead11 Před 9 měsíci

    A brilliant song. I'm not sure why it's basically unknown.

  • @-davidolivares
    @-davidolivares Před rokem +2

    I’m still in my monochromatic period for a section of my artwork.
    Another facet of my work hits the viewer with almost neon colors. They’re meant to be exhibited together. The point is to wallop you with color after getting used to black, white and grays.
    Now, if I can only finish them…
    Never bought a pet rock, too silly for me. No Chia pet either.
    I have enough crap.
    Enjoyed this one.

    • @jaybird4093
      @jaybird4093 Před rokem

      What is monochromatic? In a musical context, it sounds like an oxymoron.

    • @-davidolivares
      @-davidolivares Před rokem

      @@jaybird4093
      A single color can be used but, I’m just using tones black, grays and white. Guess gray is the base and darker and lighter versions, tones of that.
      Hmmm, that’s interesting.

    • @jaybird4093
      @jaybird4093 Před rokem

      @@-davidolivares When I think of chromatic in music, I think of the chromatic scale. It is a 12 note scale that consists of all the notes within an octave. If you play an open string on a guitar and then play a note on each fret going up to the neck until you get to the 12th fret, which has two dots, that’s a chromatic scale. Mono doesn’t really go with chromatic, at least the way I interpret it.

    • @jaybird4093
      @jaybird4093 Před rokem +1

      @@-davidolivares I think it’s great that you have a creative outlet. I like reading your updates. My son “commissioned” me to write a piece of music for solo cello. I haven’t tried to write music in about 20 years. I came up with around 10 ideas that I was happy with. The challenge is developing them. I suppose I could combine some, throw them into a generic template, and push out a pop tune but that’s not what I want to do. To approach a musical idea like Bach is really hard to do and would require a lot of thought, reflection, and revision. I’m not sure if I have the self-discipline or talent to create something that I’d be really happy with.

    • @-davidolivares
      @-davidolivares Před rokem

      @@jaybird4093
      I’ve pretty much given up trying to be pleased with something, I just do my best and I can’t fault myself for not reaching the impossible. I am who I am at this point and hopefully in the future I’ll be a bit better.
      A finished decent song is better than not trying a brilliant one.
      Good luck with it. :)

  • @sicko_the_ew
    @sicko_the_ew Před rokem

    I had a friend who had a pet rock, once, long, long, long ago. She was called Goldie. Someone painted blonde hair on her once upon a time. She was a very big rock - quite difficult to move around if she was getting in the way.
    I wonder what became of my friend. (He abandoned Goldie, in the end. Just left her there when they let us go home at last, but that doesn't make him a disgusting human being. I mean she was a rock, after all. Rocks love to be abandoned. Rocks aren't like puppies bought as if they're toys, and then dumped when they turn out to be inconvenient real people.) He was a great guy, actually. Had his "wings", but got kicked out of the "Parabats" for being too disobedient. He expected to reason why, not to just do or die, as the old saying doesn't go. We would be sent off to carry telephone poles outbound to Nowhere, and then back to (basically Nowhere, too) just for being the scum of the Earth, and all of us would cry, and wail, and tear our hair, but he would laugh, and joke, and make fun of the corporal, and enjoy the nice little jog, and also help everyone who needed help, and so drive the corporal crazy.
    I had a pet, too. A cat. A very territorially bound cat. Take her two steps beyond the roofed area, in the direction of the diesel pumps, and she'd start going crazy, fight her way free, run away, go hide in her secret place deep under the warehouse floors, where the mouse lived, and sulk for a few days. (I'm busy constructing a good excuse here, but it's nevertheless true.) She would go under there to go and catch The Mouse most nights. Late. She'd wait for me to fall asleep, first. (After first doing several bouts of hopping onto the foot of the bed, human wakes up, human falls back asleep, walk up the bed and go stare at human, purring as loudly as possible, human wakes up, human moves cat to floor, human goes back to sleep. Several times that. Another purring technique was to lie about half way down the bed, and purr loud enough for it to rumble through the mattress, and wake human up. And then the bloody Mouse! She would vanish under the floors, go catch The Mouse, and then bring him back up into the office where human nested. The Mouse would scream, "Murder!! Murder!!!, Murder!!!" in a very high pitched mouse voice (the voice mice use for screaming in terror with). Cat would walk around workshop in the dark, carrying the terrible sound around with her. Human would lie there thinking that's just how cats are. And thinking please just kill the poor thing, now. And cat would carry the screams of murder all over the dark until human finally grabbed a boot from next to the bed, threw it a bit violently at the screams. Human was quite accurate with that boot. Instead of the steel sound you get when you hit the filing cabinet, most of the time there would be the soft sound you get when a boot hits a cat. And the screaming would stop.
    And then she would wait for human to start to fall asleep, land on the foot of the bed with a heavy plop. Wake up. Fall back asleep. Purr purr purr ...
    Now if you're wondering why I tell every tiny little detail of the story like this, you've obviously forgotten about the Good Excuse I was building back there. I abandoned her there.
    I hope my successor was patient with a very fussy eater. (I had to steal food for her, and half the time she'd just look at it, look at me as if to say, "OK interesting, but where's my bloody food?" so back to that store room and the prospect of being made to carry heavy things around as if in a hurry (fair enough asking us to carry the stuff, but why run? I mean we're just going from Nowhere to Nowhere, and back to Nowhere, anyway ...) She probably ended up OK. She was a cat, after all.
    After all that I should give you a link, hey? Maybe just be like a cat that wants company at precisely the hour that its human turns sleepy, and just post the one to *Jitterbug - junior is a* again. I mean it is one of the most beautiful things ever made by a human being, after all, even if it can take a few iterations to get one's ear warped around it. czcams.com/video/bmxNKMO2kjA/video.html

    • @sicko_the_ew
      @sicko_the_ew Před rokem

      I should add that I enjoyed the song. Serendipitously (I think) it has some connection to Jitterbug, too, which adds to the delight. (That said, Jitterbug has deliberately sought out nonsense lyrics - carefully chosen for maximal ludicrosity from English as She is Spoke.)
      This English as She is Spoke: ia802605.us.archive.org/22/items/englishassheissp00applrich/englishassheissp00applrich.pdf

  • @sidecardog5244
    @sidecardog5244 Před rokem

    Interesting vocals. Kind of a combination of David Bowie, Bob Dylan, and Al Stewart. Nice effects and backing vocals.
    Ps, my pet rock just loved belly rubs.
    Edit: The rock may be a reference to the biblical “rock of ages”. A seemingly solid foundation upon which you can build your life.

  • @kuhnhan
    @kuhnhan Před rokem

    In a country that bought Zima, they also bought Pet Rocks. And it wasn't even like the rocks were out of the ordinary, just plain old rocks that gullible people spent money on.

  • @michaelfrank2266
    @michaelfrank2266 Před rokem

    Wasn't awful. I let it play as background sound while I did something else. It may be all you say. I am terrible at first listens . I never catch the lyrics first go.

  • @HippoYnYGlaw
    @HippoYnYGlaw Před rokem

    As a contrasting slab of genre busting early 21st century rockery , please play Wales’ pride & joy: “Slow Life” by Super Furry Animals (SFA OK)
    Alternatively, “ a design for Life” by Manic Street Preachers (the Manics/MSP)
    Both under 5 minutes but full of wot makes life so absorbing !
    This? I’m with Jfergs regarding it’s looseness and meandering oblique fluidity
    possibly because it’s now 2022 and i need to wake up- - - - - - - - stay awake- - - - -
    & F O C U S
    more efficiently - - - - as opposed to tune out and drop off
    Great fun though. As always. ThankYou!

  • @craigchalloner153
    @craigchalloner153 Před rokem

    Save some room near the top for Me and My Woman, dude

  • @paullyon3760
    @paullyon3760 Před 9 měsíci

    The 1970s were great...

  • @a.k.1740
    @a.k.1740 Před rokem +4

    it could have been nice concentrated on three or four minutes, but on twelve... sorry, not for me !

    • @jfergs.3302
      @jfergs.3302 Před rokem +2

      Not just me then, harrah...

    • @a.k.1740
      @a.k.1740 Před rokem +2

      @@jfergs.3302 Since just like you I'm not focused on the lyrics and this track lasts indefinitely for few twists, there's something that's hard to digest !

    • @a.k.1740
      @a.k.1740 Před rokem +1

      @@Katehowe3010 The trouble is that I'm not fond of poetry !

    • @jaybird4093
      @jaybird4093 Před rokem +1

      @@a.k.1740 I don’t pay attention to lyrics, either, so I’m with you on that. I like sounds, not words.

    • @a.k.1740
      @a.k.1740 Před rokem +1

      @@jaybird4093 Yes, I consider the voice as another instrument, not as a support for words.

  • @pentagrammaton6793
    @pentagrammaton6793 Před rokem

    I've never seen the appeal of this guy, But hey ho. I liked this because it didn't have a like yet, which was odd.

    • @pentagrammaton6793
      @pentagrammaton6793 Před rokem

      Edit: mystery solved, my browser was being weird and not updating.

    • @pentagrammaton6793
      @pentagrammaton6793 Před rokem

      @@Katehowe3010 so I'm told, but he's not for me. Too much pureness, I need my folky drug to be cut!

    • @pentagrammaton6793
      @pentagrammaton6793 Před rokem +1

      @@Katehowe3010 will do. 🙃

    • @pentagrammaton6793
      @pentagrammaton6793 Před rokem +1

      Ok so Valentine is an excellent album so far, nice concise writing. If I have two gripes it's that 1) the mood is pretty down throughout, so I'd need to be in that zone to really appreciate the vibe, and 2) man he sings out of tune a lot, which I find hard to deal with. Pretty damn good music, though.

    • @pentagrammaton6793
      @pentagrammaton6793 Před rokem

      @@Katehowe3010 well some of the stuff on that album isn't a million miles from some of my old folky-tinged acoustic tunes, so there is overlap.

  • @jfergs.3302
    @jfergs.3302 Před rokem +3

    Interesting intro, and then some nice runs, fills, etc in and out, but too much 'same ol'... There's only so much jangly guitar a man can take (even when Page is in on it), I mean, does this guy not do normal length songs. I was ok for the first 4 to 5 mins, but dragging this dirge to nearly 13 borders on abuse.

    • @paulcollins5586
      @paulcollins5586 Před rokem +2

      Its all about the lyrics.

    • @paulcollins5586
      @paulcollins5586 Před rokem +1

      One of the best guitarists. Dirge. ?????

    • @jfergs.3302
      @jfergs.3302 Před rokem +3

      @@paulcollins5586 Yeah, that's the problem... I've never really been a 'lyrics' guy. I want to be dazzled by the music, and if he's a story to tell then he should write a book, or epic poem 🙂

    • @jfergs.3302
      @jfergs.3302 Před rokem +3

      @@paulcollins5586 I'd consider this a dirge. It's not an insult, dirge is a type, style, of music. A slow, mournful, almost funereal number.

    • @-davidolivares
      @-davidolivares Před rokem +2

      Local News story:
      Man takes his own life by playing too much 12 string guitar… too much jangle they said. Found with a smile on his face. What a way to go.

  • @glensheppard71
    @glensheppard71 Před rokem

    Roy's not much into organised religion - a lot of his lyrics are pretty apposed to these organisations

  • @paulkearney5540
    @paulkearney5540 Před rokem

    Now we are talking justin if roy is an aquired taste if so im glad ive got it ,seen him loads never dissapoints totally underatted guitarist 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🌍🫂