AWESOME!! Roy Harper - Same Old Rock (REACTION)
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Roy Harper is probably the most underrated person of ever. And this is his MASTERPIECE.
thankfully I had older brothers - and in the 70's they would listen to the Beatles, Stones, Who, Bowie, Jonn Martyn, Nick Drake, Roy Harper , Reggae , Hendrix etc etc so even though I had just become a teenager when Punk , Two Tone and all that followed...... in my formative years from the mid 70's to 80's....... I had already been exposed to loads of great music... Roy Harper (Born only a few streets away from where i lived for many years in Rusholme - no blue plaque yet though) has been one of my faves since. To me this song seems to be about the perils / experience of being an artist / performer... exposing yourself (from the lyrics - but as with much of Roy's lyrical output you'd be hard pushed to get 3 people to agree on the meaning!)
I saw Roy Harper many times in the late 60s. Once even in my college refectory in Barnet.
I never thought I'd ever hear this on a reaction video. My favourite album of all time. Been following Roy for many many years. Thank you for this.
Roy often sings in metaphor and is a poetic lyricist. Metaphors like "on board her ladyship" may often be used to describe, "The Planet". Another example of Roy's metaphor is the song, "The Naked Flame", from the album "Bullinamingvase". To describe the Sun, I believe.
Really surprised to see this, but quite pleased as well. This entire album, Stormcock, is fantastic. It only consists of four tracks which are all on the longish side. Give it a listen! Btw, Jimmy Page is featured on this track, credited as "S. Flavius Mercurius" on the album.
A lesser known Zeppelin appearance by Roy Harper, he also appeared briefly on their 'The Song Remains the Same' movie. Page was so enamoured of Harper that he used to invite him to tour with Zeppelin, and he was on that tour. At the start of the film, Jimy and Robert can be seen getting out of their plane and into a limo, with a blonde chap wearing a red velvet jacket. That was Roy Harper.
Daniel, at this moment in time, you are the man! I never expected the genius that is Roy Harper to crop up on your channel. Despite never breaking into the world of big selling albums, Roy has influenced everyone from Ian Anderson, Led Zeppelin, and of course sang the vocals on Pink Floyd's 'Have A Cigar'! As well as being a tremendous acoustic guitar player, his lyrics are pure poetry. 'Stormcock', 'Lifemask', 'HQ', and 'Bullinamingvase' are all essential albums from the '70's! To really get this man, you have to take in a couple of his releases, as his way with the English language is a joy to behold! Now you've found Roy Harper, you have to keep on keeping on, my friend! 👌
Brilliant review and advice, Christian. I totally agree, an absolute poetic treasure. xx
@@adrianmcgachie Thanks mate. 😉
"Me and my Woman" is another masterpiece from this album; it's one of the first progressive folk songs.
I am digging this cascade of videos today. Roy Harper is a legend, but I haven't heard very much of his work. This is absolutely beautiful. Yes, I can hear the Dylan-like passages. You are so good to us, DS9.
lf only Dylan could sing as well, play as well and compose complex works as well.
Stormcock is one the greatest albums ever put to vinyl. I wish I was hearing it again for the first time but it still chills me even though my copy is very well worn. Enjoy. Fyi he also plays many of the tracks in live shows with Jimmy Page. God level.
Love this track and so mesmerising. His guitar playing blows me away and brilliant live!
A unique singer song writer and a poet💚alot of politics in his lyrics too. One of the best!!!
One of my top 5 favorite songs. It's a masterpiece and hardly anyone has ever heard it. Goose bumps when the voice comes in. Jimmy Page plays the second guitar on this tune.
Absolutely beautiful! Now I have to find more 💜 thank you so very much for finding this treasure. So many of the greats are reflected in those notes, like ghosts. Stunned, the hair on the back of my neck is standing up.
I also recommend for your list, the song “Crazy Man Micheal” by the Fairport Convention from the great album Life and Liege, it’s British folk rock with the wonderful vocals of Sandy Denny. The guitarist and songwriter Richard Thompson emerging with this group.
I didn't know until recently that Roy Harper sang the lead vocals on Pink Floyd's Have A Cigar.
Don't you read the liner notes?
we call it riding the gravy trainnnnnnnnn
I'm discovering artists I never got to hear. I loved the transitions in this song. He's amazing :)
Btw, Jimmy Page plays the solo guitar in that song 😊. He used a pseudonym in the credits of the album (can’t remember why though).
In Me And My Woman is where you truly see his guitar skills as a solo player and singer. And you should listen to the entire album, I mean, it’s just fantastic! A 10/10 in my opinion.
Each of the four songs in the album is inspired by something specific:
The first song: Hors d’Oeuvres is a song that goes against the capital punishment. The second song: The Same Old Rock is a song that goes against organized religion. The third song: One Man Rock and Roll Band, is an anti war song. And the fourth and last song: Me And My Woman, in the words of Roy Harper himself: “It's about the general human condition - nothing to do with the sexes, per se - but more about how we treat each other. As a young man back then I could see the world was already far from rescue-able. That feeling of hope we'd had in the sixties was gone.”
Roy is the man
An old Hippe soul who preached for Change and revolution!!..
Woke up this morning to another avalanche of both diverse and great, great music. Decided to comment first on this one, only 80 views as of 10am, EST. Wow, what so many are missing out on. Never heard this, or of this artist. Dylan-esque, indeed.
From Nick Drake to Roy Harper! You're playing six degrees of separation!!
A wonderful song. A very troubadour / minstrel feel.
Excellent choice for a Roy Harper song. The time sig on this sounds like 6/8 but also sounds like free time in spots, Maybe that’s the medieval sound we hear. It’s an old folk music timing almost waltz like. Dude you are killing it on these reactions.
You can really hear his influence on Jethro Tull, especially toward the beginning of the song
Another epic Harper masterpiece is McGoohans blues on his Folkjokeopus LP (only 16 minutes).
One of his best songs, of which there are many. Try the tracks You (The Game Part II) featuring David Gilmour and Kate Bush, When an Old Cricketer Leaves the Crease, Cherishing the Lonesome, The Flycatcher, Angel of the Night, Garden of Uranium, True Story, Still Life.... then you'll have a good overview of what he's about.
Also I've never really tried to understand the lyrics, other than assuming that the old rock in question is the Earth.
Thanks so much for doing this and after hassling for so long I was so relieved that you liked it. Wasn’t that worried though, most lovers of music appreciate Roys brilliance. The rest of the album is every bit as good.
I've loved Roy Harper since I learned it was him who sang Have a Cigar.
RH is excellent. You can really hear the influence on Ian Anderson’s early output. I had no idea he had 32 albums, I’ve only listened to a few from the early 70’s. I’m reminded now to explore further. Listen to the rest of this album, it is excellent!
Jimmy Page's contribution to the song is simply gorgeous....very articulate and never suffocating...just right.
So glad you've discovered Roy Harper. Other songs I'm sure you'll appreciate include Forbidden Fruit, Me And My Woman, South Africa, Commune, Another Day and Forever (for starters). I was turned on to Roy Harper by Leo O'Kelly from the Irish duo Tir Na Nog-another group you will love! Leo also introduced me to Nick Drake and Planxty...I am forever grateful for that. It doesn't get any better!
Great choice.
There’s a CZcams vid of an interview of Jimmy Page snd Roy Harper playing guitars in the Welsh hills.
And one of them playing this song live.
What I love about this album, this was his FU to the record label. They wanted him to do short songs to try and get a hit and he comes back with an album of 4 long songs.
Another genius, best tracks to check out is one of those days in England "live" or one man rock n roll band.
you should do Harper's "McGoohan's Blues"
Oh, definitely. One of my favourite songs.
Page/Harper = Real Warlock/Wizards
Nice. May I recommend to check out another unique, lesser known hero to push the boundaries of folk singer-songwriter: John Martyn.
He has to do 'Solid Air' one day. 'Nuff said!
By that, i mean the whole album, and not just the song!
@@Katehowe3010 absolutely. Everybody for those reaction channels always points at the song "Solid Air", and while that's a great tune there is so much more to that album and Martyn's music in general.
@@murdockreviews Absolutely! It's the one to start i believe, but then you have his run of '70's albums like 'Bless The Weather', 'Inside Out', 'Sunday's Child' and 'One World'. To me, that's his golden period, before the Phil Collins hitch ups and safer sound. That's my take anyway!
@@Katehowe3010 I can only agree 😀
now to listen to the lords prayer off the lifemask album!!
You should listen to Roy Harper Miles Remains Live from 2004
And you try to tell me with consternation
That you have found me a brand new lock (God)
Then you try to warn me that there's only one combination (Religion)
One new sling (new thing) - the same old rock (story we've heard before)
Seen Roy many times. Often explains the lyrics before performing the song.
Great video mate...To help you with "What its about" Its basically about religion...Not a particular one, but all in general..."one new sling, the same old rock" The whole of Stormcock is a masterpiece. Check it out.
The Same Old Rock/3rd Rock from the Sun , The Earth possibly?
It's about religion. "And you try to tell me with consternation that you have found me a brand new lock" referring to how new "locks" or religions crop up through history. And "and you try to warn me that there's only one combination" essentially means "Here's this new religion, oh and by the way there's only one God." So it's just more of the same. "One new sling, the same old rock." Which is a reference to David and Goliath. New religions will always come along, and they'll always proclaim to be the only true religion that worships the only true God.
Have you ever heard the song Hats off To Roy Harper by Zeppelin?
The Same Old Rock, as Roy has voice in various live performances of the song, is anti-religion. Roy's stepmother was a Jehovah's Witness. His biological mother died two or three weeks after he was born. He didn't have a good relationship with his stepmother. A lot of The Same Old Rock is metaphors about how religion has grown and how it spreads. The "brand new lock" is another religion. "One new sling, the same old rock" basically means "A new religion and the same old message." And in Roy's context, with his mother being a Jehovah's Witness, that message was one of hate and judgement. My own mother joined the Jehovah's Witnesses and she was subject to all sorts of horrors. So the song is sort of a commentary on both the more ancient and esoteric roots of religion as well as how modern day sects form, like the JW and Mormons. There's a new coat of paint, but still the same fire and brimstone underneath it all.
As a gamer you should check Miracle of Sound and the song Valhalla Calling.
Its about Christianity man .... one new sling but the same old rock - a lock to keep the people obedient and justifying the violence used for the purpose
Daniel, from the man himself ( responding to a less than complementary critic ‘Mr Hodgett’,) though it’s still a bit impenetrable-
The first half of the introduction, (‘All along the ancient wastes the thin reflections spin, that gather all the times and tides at once we love within, that build the edges round the shrouds that cloud the setting sun, and carry us to other days, and other days to one..), where the scene for the song is set, speaks about human emotion in the huge context of love, life, portent and culture being handed down from antiquity. The second half of that intro attempts to bring that general thought down to the personal; from plural to singular, from general human to personal being ‘….and full the single stillness of the mirror that is made, by each and every one of all the colours in a shade, inside each eye is sitting like the sword inside the blade, and longs for once upon a chance to open love’s cascade, for here we stand, hand to hand, fighting for the promised land’.
These two verses, put together as they are, attempt a poetic analogy of a movement in time and scale, of vision and awareness in humanity, for peace and rationale; added to which, the old English way of making a sword, by repeatedly folding the metal in on itself under intense heat, is so personal and so exacting a process as to provide another fitting analogy to the singularity of individual vision that comprises general human awareness. The sword inside the blade. The actual innate sword inside the personal blade. The eternal sword inside the mortal blade. But this lyric has even more than that going for it; it also has unspoken movement, it says “Ready”, which you can think of as an admirable trait within the human character. The sword inside the blade is always “ready”. The sharp eye is motivated. Mirrored in billions. In its most perfect readiness it sits, in the socket, in the sheath, relaxed, in permanent readiness. Ready to see. Ready to defend. Ready to strike. Ready to make peace. Ready to own up. Ready to become a better human. As ready, as sharp as the inner eye that guides it. For good or ill, but hopefully, in this instance, for more treaty and understanding among the unthinking superstitious. Among the multitudes of armed religious antipathists, that they may eventually be able to recognize a different expression of humanity other than one that breeds war and boasts submission to dogma. There are different cadences of meaning here. To attempt to explain them all in this place would be fruitless. Suffice to say that there are the historical, philosophical, moral, metaphysical, political and, at the end, among many, even the hopeful.The notional meaning of each separate line in the song is not as easy to pin down as might be the case with the average pop song lyric, but perhaps Mr Hodgett needed a little guidance there. Not enough to entirely wreck the song for everyone else by exposing Joyce-like minutiae to extreme, but just a little push to point him in the right direction.
Most poets hope to achieve work that says more than the sum of its words. One of the first things that you get to know when you start to work with words is that all they can really be are indicators. At which point, you’re out on your own limb. As most of us know, the human capacity to abstract its own world works outside of the constraint of mere words.
Check out ‘Me and My Woman’ from the same album and if you are in the mood for an even longer listen then sticking together all the parts of ‘One of these days in England’ from the album Bullinamingvase is a fabulous reward for the ears and a reflection on simpler times in post war Britain.
Holy Cow, man, thanks for that Yeah, beautiful use of the language and metaphor for expressing very complex and nuanced thoughts
It's about religion and saying this way is a new or better way. But in reality they're all the same. The same old same.
On board her ladyship refers to planet 🌏 "her ladyship " . Mouthpiece 7 thousand years of age ,things have never really changed in all that time.
Led Zeppelin has a song on LZIII "Hats Off to Roy Harper" that I consider as one of the few LZ songs that can be skipped. SMH
Religion all the same and interpreted and misinterpreted in a way that controls and judges and keeps all in place