V for Vendetta - What's the Difference?
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- V for Vendetta is Alan Moore’s graphic novel about anarchist V combating the fascist government in a dystopian UK. The film adaptation was the same... but different! So it’s time for us to take a stab at uncovering all the differences between the graphic novel and film. Subscribe: goo.gl/9AGRm
V for Vendetta is a story that pits anarchism against fascism. Main character V is a revolutionary with big plans to take down the government, who takes on a protege, Evey Hammond, in an attempt to create his successor. The book and film have many similarities, both dealing with government oppression and the backlash that it causes, but some of the biggest differences can be seen with the change in themes from fascism vs anarchism to liberalism vs neo-conservativism. At that, it’s time pull back the proverbial shower curtain on all the differences between the book and the film.
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Hugo Weaving should have won an Oscar for his role as V. He nailed it.
He expressed such emotion and passion behind a mask. My favorite performance of his.
@@Buddyx86 ikr
That is probably the toughest acting you can do, purely on the fact he doesnt use his face and instead expresses his emotions motives and philosophy with his body movement and tonality of his voice. Truley incredible.
His performance wasn't good in Transformers is because he found that role as meaningless. and I can't blame him, those movies are hot garbage
Especially his facial expressions!
"No, what you have are bullets and the hope that I am not still standing when you're done, because if I am, you'll all be dead before you've reloaded." Best line ever.
True.
“That’s impossible! Kill him!”
I fucking love Hugo Weaving
Bollucks
Correction:
"No, what you have are bullets and the hope that once your guns are empty I'll no longer be standing. Because *_if_* I am, you'll all be dead before you've reloaded."
It's crazy how both versions of the story fit with how the real world is right now
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How it has almost ALWAYS been... and how it all shall just inherently be again.
Tyranny is an inevitability, as is the subsequent resulting mass revolution against that tyranny... Humanity most usually tends to behave like a rather predictable, cyclical, staged progressive evolutionary organism, in all honesty.
I was looking for a more recent comment about this lol. They nailed it with virus in the same year. A form of the rest is happening now. It’s crazy.
Its all contrived and these movies are purposefully told that way.
The medium is the message.
Think of the Simpson’s “predictions.”
What do you guys think now more then 2 year from your coments its got more crasy and rising
Except the resisting/protesting part
1:50 “in the film it’s 2020 and the saint Mary’s Virus ravages Europe.”
Huh not bad foresight Wachoskis.
I can give you that.
Fort Detrick biolab spill before Covid
“People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.”
That's how we wind up with fascist governments
Jose Misael go ask that to the turtlr
I ain`t saying, that goverment in the movie was ok... But anarchists... Femminists- until they get into hostage situation. Atheist- until the plane starts to go down in flames. Anarchists- until somebody tries to rape your wife, and you need to call the police :)
@@heretyk_1337 I just noticed this comment, I am actually the survivor of a plane crash and never once thought about god during that incident, I just came to terms with the fact that I was going to die. Didn´t have cell phones back then, so couldn´t even try to call anyone.
@@AurioDK You want an award or something??? Congratulations- what a brave man you are... And i got into the fight once- other guy broke bottle on my head, and tried to stab me with it. Also didn`t have time to pray, or think about God, because i was too busy defending myself. What`s your point? Have you ever heard about joke, sarcasm, or context? Or are you here just to prove something?
V's hat was longer in the book.
Christian Gutierrez Yeah... Bro. You can't use words like "Longer, Harder, Bigger, or even Smoother" on the internet. You're just setting yourself up for failure!
moves flim
How dare they
danteelite harder, better, faster, stronger
SkyOut: I'm sure Evie wouldn't agree about the ruined part... :D
"Beneath this mask is an idea"
"...and ideas are bulletproof"
@Ben Siener V is literally Alan Moore promoting leftism.
@Ben Siener Facts don't care about your feelings Ben, Alan Moore is a leftist. V for Vendetta is antifa.
@Ben Siener Writing multiple responses to one comment makes you look super triggered.
@Ben Siener Fake quotes make you look stupid.
@Ben Siener The imaginary character V becomes an anarchist (leftist) to destroy the imaginary fascis/Hitlerian government that has taken power in the imaginary England he inhabits. It's like you've never read or watched it, or know anything about Alan Moore, or politics, or anything at all. It's pretty entertaining tbh.
Evey: Who are you?
V. : Who? Who is but the form following the function of what and what I am is a man in a mask.
Evey: Well I can see that.
V. : Of course you can, I’m not questioning your powers of observation, I’m merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
Evey: Oh, right.
V. : But on this most auspicious of nights, permit me then, in lieu of the more commonplace soubriquet, to suggest the character of this dramatis persona. Voila! In view humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the “vox populi” now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin, van guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.
Verily this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.
Evey: Are you like a crazy person?
V. : I’m quite sure they will say so.
The Underdog40 I can just imagine the bloopers with just this scene
V says every word that starts with v except vagina
is it weird i heard the voices perfectly lol
Best exchange ever lol
This is still one of my favorite parts of the movie. It was delivered perfectly, and you don't need to see his face because of all his dramatic gestures and poses while he talks. Also his voice is articulated perfectly. Love everything about that scene.
I very much loved the movie. One thing I think you guys missed was at the end where the people unmasked. Notice all the faces of people who died during the film? Evie's parents, her boss, the little girl, and more. It's a pretty interesting sequence.
+Andrew Stevens I figure symbolic.
Yes. And the woman that wrote the letter on the toilet paper. It's a really well done sequence.
Yes, most of them are already dead, so it's the fallen judging (or shaming) the living.
The idea is the V was all of them as well as any member of the public, they were all people who fought the government and were killed because of it. That is V, he is both the public's anarchy and the dead's vengence.
@@williamaldred335 It's also a metaphorical representation of the promise in his 'dramatis persona' speech: "A vendetta [that shall] one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous."
The major difference that I would like to mention is V's television broadcast. In the movie he tries to inspire the people to reclaim their freedom by talking about how great they can be. In the original novel he admonishes the public, outright accusing of them of people responsible for the fascist regime and attacking them as much as he is the government.
Jeff Kinney once said, "If the book and movie adaption are the same, then there's no reason to watch the movie at all."
No. You watch the movie to see the story and the characters come to life. You read the book to go deeper to the characters and the world unfiltered.
Was he having a case of the stupid when he said that?
He should've said no reason to watch the Long Haul
I disagree, Eragon would have been a good movie.
yes there is
its called not having to read
I died in the movie when that dude said “remove your mask”
V: “no”
Anyone else notice that the movie 1984 that has John Hurt as the main character and V for Vendetta having John Hurt as the dictator? I think there's some parallel, like an homage to George Orwell.
JUST A GLITCH IN THE SYSTEM BUT GOOD EYE!
It reminds me of the time I saw Derek Jacobi play Hamlet in the 70s BBC production, then play the King in the Kenneth Branagh version...
A deliberate artistic choice, no doubt
The last thing we need is a HOMAGE to Orwell: monster ideas, given form in our day-to-day lives. PASS.
@@random22026What Orwell wrote about was likely already planned by then, and now more or less a reality.
I saw the movie and then read the comic and very much enjoyed both. I think their conclusion was quite adequate. The film was adapted for a modern audience, and thus appealed to our modern issues, which I think is better. While the comic is a wonderful read and among the all time great graphic novels, directly adapting it to the screen would have been impractical, would never have done it justice, and could have been worse due to its lack of direct social relevance. Over all though, bot are remarkable pieces of art in their respective mediums, and I have a great love for either.
I couldn't have put it better myself. I both read the graphic novel and watched the movie. While I enjoyed the movie more that does not mean the graphic novel wasn't an engaging story, quite the opposite. I see them as the same sides of different coins. Both are great, in different ways due to different mediums.
I also like that the movie didn't use the novel as a crutch, like Watchmen did, it took the basic story, message, and characters and made then the movies own, giving us two great pieces of work.
If you think the movie was "modern", you don t know a thing about anarchy...
Pedro Nobile It's modern because it's criticizing modern governments, namely our media and the government control behind it.
ttv0 that's the same plot for every f** movie, and this movie didn't present a alternative, like the comicbook. it's just a bad, flat, superhero movie
Regarding Comic-Evey's characterisation as a "streetwalker" : She is a sixteen year old girl who takes up sex work due to poverty and lack of other options.
It's not she who is immoral (not that sex work makes anybody immoral, mind...), but rather the political and economic system that opresses her. That's the point Alan Moore was making.
Now everyone turns to SW because of poverty or what a government has done. Many do because they like it & it pays well. People still think they do because they have to but it's simply not true. There are some that turn to that b/c of poverty/drugs/forced but SW should be legal IMO locking up girls that want to do it is stupid & locking up victims is too. People that do SW could help save victims if cops would just ask. The only reason it's illegal is because they want tax money which is hard to regulate with SWers thats why we have legal brothels & massage parlors but if you work alone it's illegal.
@Just a normal nazgul Not sure what your talking about. I said it was illegal. The only legal brothels are in Nevada. Cops/alphabets will go to illegal brothels to get served or to collect money (usually monthly) pretty much blackmailing the owners not turn them in. When another agency gets involved they will play stupid & arrest all girls even vitcims.
Yes, it's immoral when your kids will carry the target of mocking, humiliation and degradation on their backs for something you've done.
That's why harlots are immoral and shouldn't have children.
@@Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT Then isn't it the fault of the people who taught kids to be so intolerant, and not the sex worker.
Sex work is an immoral thing, and is far more often taken up due to DRUG ADDICTION, not poverty. But of course commies like Moore love to glamorize bad things and disfigure good things
You don't mention that when the public removes their masks at the end of the movie, we see the faces of people who were murdered by the government earlier in the film. This adds a second level of meaning there. It isn't just that V has inspired everyone, it is that everyone was victimized by the government, and by finally acting the people are taking the first steps in avenging the people the government killed.
"What day is it Evey?" "November the 4th" "Not anymore..."
MrMortsnarg “Remember remember the 5th of November the gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.”
@@mets2128 "Tell me Evey, what good is an actor that plays his part to an empty theatre?" "I don't know."
(someone please turn this into the entire movie dialogue i am begging you internet)
"People should not be afraid of their governments.
Governments should be afraid of their people."
- Vendetta
His name is V
@kaine bolts V's not his name. Nor is Vendetta. 'V for Vendetta' is a pun, he lets people call him V because he's in favour of the vendetta.
@@pietzsche he calls himself v also because he was trapped in cell number 5 and have you noticed that its also the 5th of november.
@@LunarPenguin42 There's a ton of relationships to the letter V in it, but the thing's literally called "V for Vendetta"
@@pietzsche i never said that v doesnt stand for vendetta. I merely added a point.
_"How did this happen? Who's to blame? Certainly, there are those who are more responsible than others. And they will be held accountable."_
_"But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror."_
Which is realistic. Now we got a mass surveillance state that only keeps getting bigger, and bigger. Trading freedom for “security”.
One of the best comic book adaptation out there. This movie is terribly underrated. Hugo Weaving is so charming in this one and you can't even see his face!
"Anarchy wears two faces, both creator and destroyer. Thus destroyers topple empires; make a canvas of clean rubble where creators can then build a better world. Rubble, once achieved, makes further ruins' means irrelevant. Away with our explosives, then! Away with our destroyers! They have no place within our better world. But let us raise a toast to all our bombers, all our bastards, most unlovely and most unforgivable. Let's drink their health...then meet with them no more."
*-Alan Moore, **_V for Vendetta_*
Confused why Guy Fawkes became the face of anarchy when he was a Catholic monarchist.
No idea, the anonymous I knew was a green faced man in a suit.
Fawkes tried to blow up parliament. Anarchists are anti-state. V is an anarchist who blew up parliament. V wears a Fawkes mask.
All true. But Fawkes' primary motivations were to revert England to Catholicism and put it under Spanish rule. Very far from an anarchist.
he would have been kicked out of the church....but had he succeded....a saint.
codswallop321 yeah
but it’s just
a
comic
book
“Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof.” Best. Line. EVER
"Artists use lies to tell the truth whereas politicians use the truth to tell lies."
Explain please
@@ontheblocknba it's a quote from the V for Vandetta movie. Would you like more of an explanation?
@@Dave-um7mw ya i didn't get it
@@ontheblocknba basically artists reflect the true way the world is through fiction, and politicians use partial truths to trick people into believing what is false. Make sense?
@@Dave-um7mw thanks
The comic has always been good, but I absolutely love the film adaptation. It may have to do with the fact that the movie contains more present day references and situations that help us relate to the story, but it will forever be at the top of my favorite movie list.
The movie help to relate to present-day Americans, not everyone you dumb ignorant
@@Eliel20117 Not really, I'm Greek and for me the situation in V for Vendetta related a lot to our world worldwide. So how about you don't call names and let people have their opinions next time.
In my humble opinion, they made a interesting comic book about power and Thatcherism into a Bush-era parable about, well, pretty much nothing.
V die in the comic too? :(
2020: a virus ravages the world… when I first saw the film I thought “that’ll never happen” but here we are
Damn it, CineFix. I'm trying to sleep.
US TOO!
+StarWarsROTJ1983 If you were trying to sleep how did you check youtube?
+1
krampus Did you mean to press the +1 button?
+Nixo Monopip yeah, I did. I slipped and typed +1 instead. Whoops!
"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."
You consider yourself living in liberty?
😂
Ugly is the freedom where you don't have anything to eat today.
That's what makes you a sheeple.
@@Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT are you living in liberty?
@White Blogger Specs Timeless.
@@TruePT I'll take that as a no lol no argument 🤣
"League of Extraordinary Gentleman is the main reason I decided to take my name off all subsequent films."
Ahhhh, now It makes sense.... good move honestly.
one difference I'd always noticed (which is really just a minor detail) is that V's weapons in the comics aren't knives. They're blunt rods that he uses to punch holes in people. Finch even said he had a nasty hunch that the wounds on V's victims were inflicted with just his fingers.
The messages of both the comics and the movie are certainly very different, but I think they're both valuable, and both the movie and the comics are really good stories in general. I think it's a shame that Moore didn't see it that way.
He's a writer. That's just how it works for people who create worlds and characters like this. Even though the change isn't really hurting anyone, it's still upsetting to see a story that you put all of your time and effort into - night and day, writing and drawing and editing until you didn't think it could be written and drawn any better - be changed drastically, just because "books are hard to adapt perfectly, so lets only vaguely follow the source material". Granted, I love the movie. But you have to understand how much that hurts. It's like taking a kid's drawing, telling them it's fantastic and that you're going to show it to the rest of the family so they can see how great it is, only to redraw it the way you think it should be drawn (for whatever reason), and you only redraw a small portion of the original picture, whilst you leave the rest out entirely, and then you show the family that picture. It's not something that kid will want to put their name on, because it's NOT THEIRS. And it will hurt, knowing that their beloved picture won't be seen the way they envisioned it.
That's why he doesn't like the movie - It's not his "drawing". We should be thankful he allowed it to be made to begin with. It's a shame that he can't watch a brilliant movie, without knowing that it's his world and his characters, that are doing things he never intended them to do. But that's just the way it is, and we shouldn't think less of him for it.(Sorry for the rant. I wasn't sure exactly how I wanted to word this at first, so it sort ended up longer than I intended as I kept typing... I just felt a need to get this point across, I guess... ^_^")
Silver Samurai26
It should be mentioned that Alan Moore is an Anarchist as well, so it must have hurt ideologically to see a story involving your ideology be removed completely.
"Even though the change isn't really hurting anyone"
That could honestly be argued. I've seen plenty of situations where the original work gets completely overshadowed by the movie, because, well, movies are simply more available to the public. Doesn't matter if the original work is better in many ways, the movie will almost always be remembered and praised more by modern audiences.
Seriously, the only real ones that seem to escape this seem to books or comics (mostly comics) that were so widely known it would be impossible to forget them, where even people who never read a comic in their lives would know of it. Something like, say, The Death of Superman (though give it some years, people will probably know BvS more). Hell, look at Watchmen, another of Moores works, it could be argued that today, the good majority of people know it for the movie and probably only ever skimmed the book at best.
(Don't get me started on how many people seem to think the ending is literally just 'Giant Squid shows up and the story ends', even though the whole thing is both hinted at and explained in the book.)
Or how about something like I Am Legend? There have been god knows how many lists that are basically '10 Movies you Didn't Know Where Based on Books' where thats most definitely in there.
I'm not putting the movies exactly at fault here, but you can't blame a creator for being angry so many people seem to not even know he exists, while whoever directed the movie gets so much praise for basically just adapting his work with a few key changes to the plot.
Also the film just would not have worked in a modern setting if it was based off the comic, the reason the film is so good is... we see this stuff in reality and honestly are not amazingly far off which is scary too think.
Ido Keren what? if the core message they try to deliver are (in your words) very different, then why use the same material and/or call it an adaptation? i agree they are both good, i also suspect moore is unfairly critical of comic book adaptations, but cmon, in a medium DESPERATE for creativity taking a beloved piece and changing it to better suit moviegoers is quite the bs
So the guy who played Winston Smith in "1984", plays Big Brother in this movie
The choice was quite deliberate on part of the creators, no doubt
I say both have stronger and weaker points. While the "coup d'etat" of the movie and the general backstory of it is much better that the "nuclear fallout" that makes no sense with the tone of the story. However in the comic the death of the voice was probably one of the best scenes I've ever read. The recreation of the extermination camp with the dolls and the way V makes the voice descend into madness is much, much greater and far more stylish than the "injection boom dead" movie.
The ending is great in both. The way how Eve goes from a lowlife no one to a revolutionary leader is awesome, but the movie revolution and the domino scene was also one of the best scenes I've ever seen, and the movie let us with two of the greater lines ever. The "No, what you have are bullets and the hope that I am not still standing when you're done, because if I am, you'll all be dead before you've reloaded" and "Beneath this mask there's more than flesh. Beneath this mask is an idea, Mr Creedy. And ideas are bulletproof."
V for Vendetta is one of my favourite films but I only watch it on November 5th
I'm sure that's a reference but I haven't read the graphic novel YET or seen the movie so please explain
+Jeffery Marion It's not just a reference from the graphic novel and the movie. The 5th of November is the graphic novel and movie referencing a historically date in British history. You can easily google the historical date without receiving spoilers (though you will know some inspiration for the characters in the graphic novel/movie)
Danielle S thanks xD you are very informative
+Jeffery Marion It's inspired by Guy Fawkes. He tried to blow up the British parliament and was burned for it. In Britain they celebrate Guy Fawkes night, where they burn effigies of him on bonfires.
Definitely watch the film or read the graphic novel. It's a good story.
I only watch it on December 5th I can't count so good or month so good =, (
The single biggest difference between book and movie is the thematic treatment of the anarchy vs. fascism conflict. Moore doesn't tell the author who is "right" or "wrong," and instead portrays everyone involved as at least moderately three-dimensional with understandable if not agreeable motives.
The Wachowskis wrote and marketed the film as "V GOOD GOVERNMENT BAD," so we end up with more stereotypes than story by comparison.
Still a fun movie, but the less thinking done about it the more enjoyable it is.
Yeah, the movie is much more simplistic and tries to make a romantic-idealistic idea. The graphic novel is more darker and thought provoking.
This tends to be a problem when Moore's works are adapted. They ditch any since of grey for a clear cut black and white story. While it makes it easier to digest, it takes away the one thing any good story should do; make you think.
1:49 "While in the film, it's 2020 and the world faces not nuclear disaster as the St. Mary's Virus ravages Europe." Oh no...
Just read the books and I LOVED the first one! V was this heroic government killing lunatic with iffy morals and a desire for anarchy after his previous love, justice, was transformed by the government to mean an absents of freedom.
He was portrayed as this fatherly figure to Evey, WHO IS SIXTEEN MIND YOU, and treated her as such, reading her stories and listening to her talk. We see Evey watch cartoons in the book and after a certain scene of her telling her past to V, she starts sobbing on his shoulder and the narrator says “and so Evey, like the child that she is, cried. Feeling safety for the first time in years”. The book even says how shes a CHILD!
V was also seemingly so KIND in a way! As kind as he can get, I suppose. One of the characters he kills he doesn’t kill violently or torture. He gives her a painless poison in her sleep and gave her time to apologize to him and even let her see his face. That seemed to kind to me. But also morally conflicting. And I LOVED it!!
V was a fatherly figure (and we all know how much we like that) to someone who was raised into thinking sex was the only way for someone to love her at such a young age. We got to see evil get kicked in the ass and morals being grey but still seen in a heroic character in the end of the day. It was great!
But then the second book came around…
Keeping things short. I hated it.
I saw V for Vendetta for the very first time when I was 15, I had no idea what the comic was, and the date was (and I'm not making this up)... November 5th. It became one of my favorite movies, it resonnated in me, still 10 years later. I know the V monologue by heart. It's true it's not a subtle as the comic (now that I've read it), but still, it remains an incredible movie, with an incredible story
In the novel we had to read and in the movie we had to watch.
TheTarrMan Logic 100
I'm confused, were you planning on watching the novel or reading the movie?
Steven Hall yes
You mean graphic novel
@@Theprofessorator ah the old reddit switcharoo
The scenes where she reads the notes in the fake jail cell are are so emotive they really affect me everytime.
Just amazing writing.
Luv and Peace.
Moore's hard on for Anarchy is very important in the comic.
I watched the video and I remember the graphic novel. Miles better in my opinion. I remembered the chills I got reading it. Amazing
Movie V was .. kinda hot.. like ..sign me up
Zelthane He wears a mask but I can definitely see the attraction
playing the piano always makes me weak
i really agree! idk why but i find that kind of masks pretty attractive and his voice...damn...
p.s : your profile photo is V ... omg im dying x2 now ♥♥
I agree. He looks hot in the comic, too.
Facts I'd let him smash in a heartbeat
I feel like the movie was more emotional, like it tried to give more humanity to all the characters, and an intense feeling on the evolution of the main ones. I mean... Damn, I cried twices while watching it and I went in some sort of blank mind state for a few long minutes when it ended.
SpaceWaifuu: This isn't the point of your comment, but your screen name is completely badass!
I feel the book does better at humanizing everyone- even the bad guys are shown to be people- and at getting the the Anarchic message and the message of revolution. The movie does better at making it clear that the people have the power and the responsibility to do something- but once again the book lets us see that the real issue is the social and political issues and modes of thought that need to change.
I.E. the movie makes it about people overthrowing/rejecting a corrupt government with a terrorist doing the heavy lifting to start- the Book makes it about changing how people aproach society and makes people not only complicit in how things went wrong but in fixing them, and acknowledges that it won't go flawlessly or be easy at all.
I like both though, but there are definite advantages and limitations to both mediums that make the approaches they take work for each.
it was STUPID xDDD
I cried too^^
V is the only true comic book anarchist, especially among DC characters like the Joker or Anarky. Plus, V's killings in the book aren't all that ambiguous tbh
Its insane how the movie basically kinda of predicted the future to a certain extent
Laughing Guy ya but instead of the far right it’s the far left in real life
A few years ago when I saw it for the 1st time, I didn't think this could be a possible future.
Now it looks like we're going that way. Those in power get more powerful and the people get poorer
No it didn’t. There is absolutely 0 comparison to the government in this movie to any other government currently standing.
@@yeeyee395 ha ha ha ha ha ha! Oh man conservative tears sure make me laugh. The idea that anything that happened during the pandemic or anything that’s happened recently somehow compares to the authoritarianism of the right in this movie (and real life) is just laughable
Moore ought to know.
I actually prefer the film because I think it wraps it;s concepts in a cleaner presentation, plus it DOES involve society in more of a direct and impactful way rather than limiting V in the novel to trying to influence just one person. I thought the broader scope set by the film makes much better sense and really propels the rest of the story in a satisfactory conclusion. I love the movie and I'm glad to see it has a 90% fresh rating from the audience on Rotten Tomatoes.
I think they Americanized the film too much by making comparisons to America rather than focusing on the U.K. In a different reality
Rotten tomatoes manipulates scores and is completely untrustworthy. That being said I’m pretty sure 90% of the people who have seen this movie dolike it
While one could conceive these as positives, I think the cleaner presentation is itself evidence of what it did wrong.
It's dehumanized villains and underquestioned revolutionary hero make it a more propagandistic rather than just political work.
the only problem i have with the movie is the fact it removes anarchism from the story
@@DarranKern Proof?
what's the difference - The Time Machine
+No Google I do not want to change my name
Oh fuck yes!!!
+No Google I do not want to change my name Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes
Agree
+No Google I do not want to change my name Which Time Machine movie? The original or the crappy remake?
Jon Stewart Why not both?
Interesting fact: in other parts of the world where the comics where sold, the location of the comic is changed to those countries capital cities. Here, in argentina, it takes places in buenos aires.
福岡雄司 That’s so cool!
What does he blow up, then? Do you guys have an Old Bailey? Did they change the art? That's wild
I completely forgot there was a disease ravaging the world in 2020 in this movie. What a strange coincidence don't you think?
Unlike some, I actually like the arc of V becoming in touch with the things IDEAS aren't supposed to be involved with via feeling, bleeding, and breathing. In the comics V is almost inhuman, making it a lot harder to get behind his ideologue motivation even though the story is for the most part masterfully told. I personally believe that the changes that were made for the movie helped the writing stay focused and the film entertaining. Its a shame that some of those who read the graphic novel want to NOT enjoy the movie and it's storytelling because it didn't replicate it. If they were to leave bias aside it would be easier to see that cramming the novels plots into two hours would've been horrendous
I own both the graphic novel and the movie version and I enjoy both equally. It's sort of like when people compare the original Willy Wonka movie with Johnny Depp's version. It's not fair to compare them because they are so different, one being inspired by the predecessor. I really love V for Vendetta and I will always recommend people watch it.
The v for vendetta movie is piece of shit, but the comic is a masterpiece
@@Eliel20117 the movies great too, even if you didn't like it its considered by many ( fans of the graphic novel too ) to be a fantastic movie.
V for Vendetta is set in 2020? That didn't age well. 😐
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I always adored the "fighting" scene with the armor stand.
Moore has had kind words towards some adaptations of his works. Specifically, Saturday Morning Watchmen and the Justice League cartoon adaptation of his Superman story For the Man Who Has Everything. Also, he said the David Hayter script for a Watchmen film was what he felt was the best one could hope for the story in film form.
Alan Moore never endorsed Watchmen what are you talking about
i. Love it
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David Hayter? You mean, Solid Snake?
..."the best one could hope for..." Is Alan Moore being cheeky. Also Saturday Morning Watchen was a fan-made joke.
Wait David Hayter?
I was V for Halloween for four years in a row. Last year, I was Evie. The graphic novel and movie are both awesome. I'm possibly obsessed and I'm very okay with that.
aaa do you have pics or something? :'D
Did people mistake you for anonymous?
Why are you ok with obsession?
Remember, remember the 31st of October…the Trick or Treat season and plot.
2020 Virus in Europe?
Damn, Alan Moore is truly a wizard!
That was in the film not the book
And he predicted that 2020 mother...Covid-19
"The people should not be afraid of their government. The government should be afraid of their people."
- Hong Kong 2019
Based and redpilled!
Australia 2021
I think Moore really undervalued the Film, his book is great but the Film; imo; is just as good. The Film just took Moore's story and updated it for the modern times and I don't feel that hurt Moore's version in any way. It's like taking an old car and putting a new engine into it, giving it a tune up, then slapping on a new coat of paint. It's still the same car, but different at the same time. I understood Moore feelings about the League of Extraordinary Men film, but I think he's missing the bullseye on the V film. But this is only my opinion.
+Joseph Jenkins Jr. The philosophy of V are really really different in the movie and the book. It's not an update, it's a different thing, based on the book.
+Alberto Alberto When I say "update" I mean that the brothers had the theme fit the modern times, this made it easier for viewers, especially ones whom never read the graphic novel, to relate to. So "update" does fit in this sense.
+Joseph Jenkins Jr. you are right, i loved both, one i liked more for one reason, and i liked the other more for other reasons, but for someone like Moore, who was trying to convey a VERY specific idea, and then considering all the meticolously placed symbolism, from subtle to not so subtle, i can't say i blame him for saying that he had nothing to do with it.
+fawkesianaut 23 I'm not faulting him for having nothing to do with it, I'm just saying that he sells the film short. Moore has a hard time accepting that society and people change with time. The spirit of his work still remained in the plot of the film, the brothers just made the plot more relatable to modern audiences.
Joseph Jenkins Jr. yeah, but then again we don't know if that's the actual reason for him to stay away from the film, he could have a completely different reason and we would never know, like for example, the facrt that they made V into an actual human being, instead of keeping him as a symbol, as a literal ideal concept
I'd like to see a What's the Difference for the Scott Pilgrim graphic novels vs. Edgar Wright's Scott Pilgrim vs. the World
+Cam TriforceMan They're abysmally different. This would make a great video.
The problem with the movie is that it super-condensed the main plot points from the novels, so the original ending wouldn't make as much sense or have as much impact. They needed an easy way out, which is what happened. The novels are beautiful and go to great depth about emotional dependency and other subjects relating to abusive relationships.
***** You should definitely read it; it's fantastic.
+Paolo Novaro I think you're right but I also think the movie was a separate entity and very entertaining. I'd like to see a prequel of some kind with Moore's participation.
I guess you're the one who started the vid
2020: saint Mary’s virus. Hmmmmmmmmm
coincidence?
Holy shit im not the only one im tellin ya its predictive programming
And people wearing masks
@@bluedonkey9963 and an overstepping government??
Ah shit, here we go again.
"never let a crisis go to waste"
Fun fact :
After Keanu reeves and Hugo weaving played in Matrix.
Keanu played a DC Vertigo's character (Constantine) in 2005.
Hugo played a DC Vertigo's character (V for Vendetta) in 2005.
Weird. Almost like there is an industry behind western movies.
Both the film and the comic are excellent in their own right.
+FutureLaugh I see it as a bit like Starship Troopers in that respect. Take the book and film each on its own merit without expecting them to be the same and the films are excellent in their own way.
Agreed
What's The Difference: Red Dragon/Manhunter
About 20 years.
+Hank Pym That's one I would like to see, a 3 way what's the difference with the book and the 2 movie versions.
+Hank Pym Red Dragon/Manhunter/Hannibal season 3...
+Hank Pym I can tell you easily: one is bad/one is good/the tv show is better than both
shame it was cancelled ,hope this shattered teacup one day go back together..
Holy shit
A plague in 2020!?!??!
The graphic novel is waaaay more complex and intelligent, just like Watchmen.
I think that's both a good and bad thing. Bad in that the movie isn't as deep and lacks the same details as the graphic novel. Good in that if you were looking to fit it into around two hours runtime that is watchable, this is perhaps the best result.
One is immensely entertaining and the other is more intellectual.
Agreed, but I think V for Vendetta was able to survive a dumbing down; the film version was dumber but more emotional. Watchmen, the film, was just as emotionally distant as the miniseries--if not more so--but not as rich a story.
Watchmen's one of those adaptations that really bothers me, because so many people won't read a masterpiece because they think they already have it down thanks to the movie.
Brian C precisely, i see some people criticize v for vendetta for missing the point of the novel but then defending the watchmen adaptation. Are they really that shallow minded to think watchmen was a GOOD adaptation?
It was, but at least the V for Vendetta movie was very good unlike the Watchmen one
V for Vendetta was far better than that dumbass Watchmen adaptation
Interview with a Vampire would be a great one to do a video on
It’s interview with “THE” vampire
5:30 "The movie paints evey in a better light, potentially to allow audiences to better empathize with her and also to make her rapid metamorphosis to become far more believable"
Seriously? Why would it be more believable that a 25ish something woman who's held against her will to go through a rapid metamorphosis over a 16 year old who doesn't have anyone and who for a while suspects that V might be her father, in a psychologically screwed up way?
I also thought this, I buy it way more in the comic than the film
Brevity.
An already disillusioned adult given a push is easier to convey quickly than a girl of the night being slowly indoctrinated.
The convenience of V stumbling on a woman name Evey that just so happened to have activist parents that were black bagged and just so happened to work in a place where government corruption was on full, constant display is much harder to swallow. But then, god does not play with dice, and dead people show up in the climax, so who tf cares.
Partisan politics aside, V For Vendetta is a warning against putting security ahead of liberty.
Freedom is not cheap, it requires metaphorical (and sometimes literal) sacrifice, but are you willing to make that sacrifice?
IMO "V for Vendetta" is probably the best adaptation of Moore's work put to film. The numerous subplots and characters of the comics are far too unwieldy to make into a movie intact, hence the need for adaptation. Ultimately the Wachowskis made something original which was inspired by the comics and was entertaining in it's own right. V was so successful that I wish the Watchmen movie had taken more liberties in order to better fit the film medium.
The movie is a very good movie and the comic a great piece of literature... And both are to be seen separately
And I for some reason just read that in the movie V's voice/tone/pacing.
As an Englishman, it's pretty annoying to see a very English novel just changed to American values. I agree with Moore that if they were going to do that, they should have just set it in America. But generally, it is still a very good film.
I can see why that would piss someone off. It's like a depiction of a counterfeit real society
@@silliestsususagest3276 Thatcher consolidated the power of finance capital. She transformed the economy away from useful production and into a fragile artifice that will crumble when the crisis comes. When every Brit will have nothing.
"Shall we have revolution then?"
"No, let's just vote for Labor."
Same circumstances, different decade.
Y’all gotta keep doing these
I love the movie, I never read the comic but what a great film.
This was one of my favorite movies of all time. I don't care if it wasn't 100% faithful to the book. It gets arose out of me every time I watch it, The movie was very well done. And left me wanting more.
After watching this video, it's obvious why Alan Moore disliked the script. It sounds incredibly different, moreso than Watchmen. That being said, I still love the movie and hold it as one of my favourites of all time.
My absolute favourite film, a wonderful script well done.
Whatever deviations from the original source may have occurred, the mechanical architecture of the screenplay for V for Vendetta is one of the best I've ever seen. All aspiring screenwriters should watch the movie about ten times to absorb the astounding elegance of it.
Do what's the difference Sin City
+Twiggy Voorhees Is there any difference? That movie was pretty much the graphic novel in movie form. In fact, I don't think there were any changes; just a pure adaptation of 3 Sin City stories.
+Christopher Fouras I've never read the stories but I think every book to film adaptation is slightly different in their ways
+Twiggy Voorhees i've read the comics: they're are very very close to the movies
+Bender B. Rodriguez that's what my girlfriend said, in that case maybe they should do Hellraiser the book and film are miles apart
+Twiggy Voorhees i have read the comics, it's very close to the original material with few exceptions, like the first and last story in the movie
1984 for the next one! this one was really good btw
Badsauser - the movie and the book "1984" are almost exactly identical
Honestly one of the better films made. I rate it very very high personally
So the movie predicted the future accurately? 2020 was an insane year..
Wish they had mentioned how they had several of the of the people who had died during that year take off the masks in that final scene emphasizing how it doesn't matter who he had been as he had been hurt by the regime just as much or more than anyone else.
What's the difference: Scott Pilgrim/Scott Pilgrim vs the World
“People Shouldn’t be afraid of there government. Governments should be afraid of their people.” This line should be available as a pin ✊🏻💪🏻
I love the movie version. I grew up watching V For Vendetta every year and it has slowly become one of my favorite films of all time.
love the film and the book. if you wanted to do the book more faithfully a film isn't the way. a tv miniseries would be
As is the case with most 'adapted' material for the silver screen.
I would actually like to see dc animation do a faithful adaptation the moral ambiguity and make it good
Ahh Evey wearing v's mask would've been soo good in the movie
i only just realized evey's face when v quoted the movie simultaneously as it had reached the end
Thank you for this comparison, just one thing I came across with I believe is different. At 9:00 you say that V in the movie only wears the black outfit, but there is a scene where he puts on a costume to tell the story of Larkhill to the police as a blind guy.
The only time we can make out the features of Hugo Weaving in the role---consummately acted. 🙏
I liked the ending in the novel a little better, mainly because the movie ending felt a little too safe and happy to an extent. It's hopeful and gives a sense that the people will do the right thing by being inspired by V. There's still a sense of doubt and insecurity, but it's portrayed in a positive way, like it's saying that people will figure it out and make it work. In the comic, it's much ambiguous but it leans more to the future being much darker than we might hope, especially with V still being around (the symbol at least) and one of the characters leaving the city.
I just wanted to say, that both the comic book and the movie are wonderful. They are extremely different but remain remarkable. This is just my opinion but I have to admit that I love the idea of V so much! And remember, ideas are bulletproof!!!
amazing video, thanks
okay, i like your videos, i'm not some hater troll, but i think on this one, you missed out on one huge difference that really made this film un-rewatchable. in the comic, moore clearly defines, (without explicit definition, but through the story no less!) the difference between true "anarchy" and "chaos". in the book, V explicitly states that what he is bringing about is chaos, he knows it, and he knows that he is a monster because of it. V's training of evey is not about her carrying on what he is doing, its about training her to try to bring about legitimate anarchy from the ashes of the chaos that he is creating. this matters, this is the defining feature of their relationship, in the comic, V is knowingly going to his own grave. remember; when V gets shot, it is because he wants to get shot, even the guy who shoots him ponders the fact that V clearly could have avoided being shot, he is ready to die at this point, and why is he ready to die? because he knows evey is ready. he has done all that he can to bring down the existing system, and now he is now ready to hand the torch over to the one he has trained to rebuild this world in a better, freer, anarchic vision! the whole montage at the end of the book? amazing! why? because as we go through the act of evey unmasking V in her mind, we are confronted with our own prejudice, we never know why V was taken, was he gay? was he black? was he her father? she confronts these truths with us, and we come to the same conclusion that she came to; it doesnt matter who V was, what matters is what he represented! and with this she embarks to rebuild! remember, V's biggest disappiontment was when evey was ready to kill! he knows who she is. and this book knows who we are. nobody wants to be V, we just want to rebuild. this book is one of the greatest, and probably the most dangerous works of art from the 20th century. really though, i like your videos, i'm not hating, i just think you guys missed this one.
dam, well said
Yeah, that's always a point about Moore's work people are likely to miss and is never included in the movies, because it doesn't sell well and it goes so much against how we like our stories: The questioning of heroism.
V is not really a hero! He is cruel and insane, a monster and a pure force of destruction. A sadist even. He tortures Prothero to insanity not because it needs to be done, but for his own pleasure. He knows and acknowledges Dr Surridge's change of character, but kills her all the same (albeit with more mercy than his other victims). All he is and does derives from a deep-seated thirst for PERSONAL revenge, rather than a want to change society for the greater good - hence the name "Vendetta". We mostly sympathise with him on his quest, because the people and the system, he decided to be the anti-thesis to, is itself inherently monstrous and inhumane. He seems less of a monster in comparison only. It doesn't change the need for his existence, but it's a huge stretch to call him a hero.
His redeeming quality is that he knows all this and acknowledges he needs to die in order for a better tomorrow to happen. His only truly heroic act is to allow himself to be killed, as he says himself:
"Away with our destroyers! They have no place within our better world.
But let us raise a toast to all our bombers, all our bastards, most unlovely and most unforgivable.
Let's drink their health... then meet with them no more.”
Omnicidal Oneiriac you're not trolling just giving creative feedback
You could just watch it and ignore the fact, that it's based on a comic. I've seen it twice now, and I wouldn't mind watching it again.
this does not make the movie unwatchable
it is perfect as it is, as well as the comic
The biggest issue I had with the movie was the fascist's plot to get to power. It completely destroyed the message of the book that fascism is always about the people themselves letting it all happen.
That did kind of feel cheap. Although the idea of the government triggering a crisis to gain power isn't too far-fetched. Case in point politicians taking advantage of covid.
(Edit: not that a government made covid or anything but it was used to gain power)
@@cabnbeeschurgr6440 Those governments that actually did that were already on that kind of path. Pretty much all Western-European countries are removing covid rules now, with no lingering effects except a legal network to respond faster in case a similar epidemic pops up again.
March 26, 2021----With what's been going on in the U.S. the past year or so, wasn't so surprised to find 2 different stencils of V online. Just kind of surprised no one's been using them.
This movie speaks volumes till this day
I'm a liberal who has never read the graphic novel and had never even heard of Alan Moore prior to watching V For Vendetta, so I had absolutely no pre-existing expectations for the movie to shoot down... and I still thought it was absolutely terrible. It was one of the most pretentious, condescending, one dimensional, preachy movies I've ever seen in my life. My immediate thought upon finishing the movie was: "this is like some crap a goth kid in eighth grade would write the night before handing in a creative writing assignment. And he'd flunk it."
And it's weird, because when Avatar did exactly the same thing with its one dimensional preaching, I loved it. It felt good. The characters were well realized, the good guys weren't violence prone anarchists, the bad guys at least TRIED diplomacy even if it was half-hearted, and even the villain Colonel Quaritch had some understandable and even sympathetic moments despite the fact that he was clearly off his rocker. Yet it was still a left-wing power fantasy, and it was absolutely glorious.
When THIS movie does it, it feels like propaganda. I mean, yeah, it feels good to give right-wing extremist ideology the middle finger, but at the end of the day, I feel like the movie goes too far, advocating, possibly even glorifying violence and anarchy and boiling down complex political philosophies to black and white Saturday morning cartoon fair. Right wing extremists love to do that shit for their propaganda too you know.
Which is why I'm actually kinda intrigued by Alan Moore's original novel... it sounds far more believable, and less preachy. Argh though... I've never been a big fan of the comic, manga, or graphic novel storytelling formats.
I really liked the movie.
I googled so many words in the first 10 minutes.
1:49 wow that aged pergictly
Omg 4:40 literally just belly laughed!! 😂🤣