The Crow - What's the Difference?
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RIP Brandon Lee
I think he'd be about 49 today if he'd lived.
Yeah, it was so sad. It was a freak accident
1128ca Mbq hed be 51
Cheyenne Legault
Ah, correct.
We've lost many stars too soon to so many reasons. For this to be such a tragic accident and take someone who was just showing that he had everything that it takes breaks my heart.
The Crow did have one hell of a sound track... no seriously, go download that shit and give it a listen. Fucking sick. And it even comes with an exclusive amazing Nine Inch Nails single. ... ....
The original motion picture score by Graeme Revell is amazing as well.
Mrs Brisby One cannot overlook My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult.
yes, it was amazing, was a staple all through highschool. that pantera track was killer, even the depeche mode track was good. stone temple pilots. it was diverse and each track was a great choice.
One of the best soundtracks! It was on constant rotation in high school. I remember reading somewhere that the STP song replaced another for the reason that the song it replaced would have been insensitive to include given the circumstances of film, but I can't remember the song or the reason, exactly. In any case, great album!
there's no depeche mode song on the crow.
A rare occasion that the adaptation improved the original story for the better without destroying its soul.
Well it also helped that the studio itself stepped out of the way, and James O'Barr worked closely with the director, writer, and Brandon during the making of the movie. Basically the total opposite of what happened during the making of its sequel. Which went through so much hell creatively because of the studio that even the "Director's Cut" isn't what the director, the writer (Goyer), and lead actor had originally planned and been sold on. So if anything, movies like The Crow are just a prime example of studios and producers needing to stand the hell aside.
The Crow was also pretty low-budget, even for early-90s. And it wasn't huge property like Batman, probably a major reason why studio heads stayed out of the way. (I think the same thing happened with the first Blade film too. Kind of like, "Blade who? Who cares!")
What movie did you watch?
I dont know if its improved. But both are very good. The comic is a intense emotional read its a bit more meaningful, the movie is more conventional and actiony but its done so well that its great
rasnac The comic was way better than the movie dude
The soul of this movie is absolutely Brandon Lee. Apparently he assisted in working with James O'Barr and keeping the tone of the comic accurate while reworking the story for a satisfying three act structure.
Especially considering that James O'Barr originally penned The Crow as a way of dealing with his Girlfriend being killed by a drunk driver, and had no intention of publishing the comic, it's wonderful that Brandon was sensitive to that in making the comic work on screen. Brandon and Bruce were both epic minds that should truly be missed.
I wish Brandon Lee never died :( such a talent.
is not died my frind i am in life
@@cineyoutube_Da_Lee_7604 *dead *friend
I think the biggest difference is the ambiguity. In the comic, it wasn't clear if Eric was undead, or just in a coma dream, or even if he's just super high off drugs and doesn't feel pain at all anymore. The movie just straight up tells you it's magic.
dude idk about you but when i saw the panels of him getting shot multiple times i already tought it was magic
dumbass
@Char Aznable Nope your referring to the later comic books that came out after the film, that adopted the fantasy element that ties to the crow.
I never reac the comic.
@White-Van Helsing I was specifically talking about the orginal graphic novel
Regardless of who tries a remake, it will never be better than the original. Brandon Lee was perfect for the part and really out did himself proving that he wasn't just a martial artist, that he's a great actor. The Crow is my favorite movie. RIP Brandon Lee. You are sorely missed.
It can't rain all the time.
Linda musica💖💖💖
Damn. I wanted to say that. Good on you.
@@Thetazord ☺
Favorite Quote Forever ❤💘❤
pineappleboyfilms eric
The movie was one of the rare instances where making it more "Hollywood" wasn't a bad thing.
If they had just done a straight page-to-screen adaptation, it would've been a more "arthouse" type of film. Which might have been interesting in its own right, but adding more conflict and character to the story made it more mainstream but without losing the essence of the original comic.
I also liked how each version tackles the subjects of grief and vengeance in different ways. In the comic, they're something more personal and destructive, in the movie, they're more social and tonic. Eric's mission in the original is something he needs to do for himself alone, to "get even", whereas his mission in the adaptation is something he needs to do for other people as well as himself, to get justice for those victimised by Top Dollar and the gang.
you missed how Top Dollars "girlfriend" is actually his step sister.
right after or before (cant remember) Top Dollar hands Gideon the eye, he says this:
Top Dollar: "One of the of the things I learned from my sister..."
Gideon: "Sister? You're tellin' me this is your sister?"
Top Dollar: "My father's daughter, what's the matter, don't see the resemblance?"
or something to this effect.
Half sister not step sister
Yeah, I also noticed he missed to mention that piece of information that makes that character even more creepy.
@@chicagovader2188 she is japanese. he is american. he was adopted (or something, presumably). you do the math.
@@Nosferdamus well I imagine her mum was Asian and his wasn't
This was meant to be Brandon Lee's breakthrough film, RIP Mr. Lee...
dirbrody It Was his Breakthrough film!!!!!!!!
He broke on through to the other side
for me, The Crow is one of the rare movies better than the source material
Agreed. The scene where David Patrick Kelly was sent off the pier was superb. He had to completely sell the scene since Lee was dead before they filmed it, and damn if he didn't do a perfect, Lovecraftian descent into gibbering madness.
Just A Dude
Seeing the Skull Cowboy in the final product would have been interesting
Agree
Agreed The Crow is my favorite movie of all time, but the book isn't as good as other graphic novels/comics still really amazing, just not the best
Totally agree!
Years ago I had the privilege of seeing a special screening of
The Crow at the theater.
One of the greatest nights of my life.
I had the opportunity to see The Crow theatrically followed by a Q&A with James O'Barr, and I turned it down cause I thought it was too much money. I kinda regret that now.
The Crow is one of my favorite movies ever :) . Brandon Lee brought a fantastic performance in The Crow and i still miss him to this day . I still watch The Crow every Halloween to honor Brandon Lee and The Crow .
The comic book is so awesome :)
Great comparison as always gents! One thing you missed is the depiction of the titular crow itself. In the comic, the crow is quite talkative, at turns humorous and sympathetic, like an irreverent afterlife guide for Eric. In the movie, the crow doesn't speak at all, and (as you did point out) serves as Eric's physical connection to his powers. The comic crow added a needed light touch at times, balancing out the darker tones, and giving Eric a friend who knew his story.
fun fact: they never call him Top Dollar once in the movie.
Similarily, the name Tom-Tom doesn't show up in the movie either; instead, there's a character named Skank.
@@glennolson6505 And Top Dollar's sister is never named in the movie either.
I'm always confused if someone refers to him that way
@Richard Hart Yeah I know, but people who've only seen the movie and haven't read the comic book or studied the characters online must be really confused :D
@@Eris_Norregard lol 💯
I tend to think that the book is more ambiguous about the supernatural elements of the story. In the film Eric Draven (by the way, you also missed that "Draven" is only given in the film, the closest thing to his surname given in the book is the first letter- "D" on a partially obscured file) has _definitely_ risen from the grave and the crow (ie, the bird that flies around him) is a supernatural entity. However in the book, it can be interpreted that Eric merely survived the shot to the head, after the Doctors and Captain Hook give him up for dead. (There's also a few panels showing the medical team rushing to operate on him. It's a million-to-one shot, but not necessarily supernatural in nature.
Throughout the graphic novel, Eric is seen injecting himself with heroin, and before the final confrontation he takes Fun-boy's stash and injects it straight into his heart. My take on this is that he knew he was going to die, and was prepared to do so. All the shots fired at him _were_ doing damage, killing him, but all the drugs in his system kept him going and numbed the pain just long enough to do what he needed to do. I read somewhere that James O'Barr himself said that the crow (again, the actual bird) was a manifestation of Eric's mind, rather than an actual real entity. Although, this may be wrong as T-Bird actually sees ''The Crow' if only vaguely reflected in his shades, causing him to be distracted and crash his car (this may even be just clouds in the shape of a crow an the sun, though). Like I said- ambiguous.
Another notable difference between the book and film is that Shelly and Eric were targeted by the gang because Shelly stood up to Top Dollar, whereas in the book the encounter is completely random. To me the book version seems more tragic.
actually he's shooting up morphine. it's implied in his encounter with Funboy and Sherri's mom, he knows that the drug they're abusing is morphine based on their appearance. something about yellow eyes, but clear skin.
As far as I remember, the death of the authors girlfriend was also random (drunk driver I think), so it makes sense that the death in the story was too.
My names Draven I was named after him
He's is certainly undead in the graphic novel, he took enough morphine to kill a horse, he gets shot in the chest multiple times by various caliber weapons, shot in the head in the bar, hell he even takes a round through the neck! I never thought there was any doubt to the supernatural nature of the graphic novel. I thought him being the only one that saw the crow was much better than it being a physical bird in the film, that was just typically Hollywood formula writing where the protagonist has to have a weakness. Only Saving grace the film has is Brandon Lee in my opinion.
@@chicagovader2188 Though it could also all be a dream this confirmed by Barr himself, it left ambiguous on purpose.
In the comic, Eric doesn't have a surname and he's a happy go lucky average joe mechanic, not an indie rock guitarist, and he and Shelly live in a crappy (but they're humble blue collar folk and they adore it) starter house in the suburbs. The surnames Draven and Webster were created because in a film you need more character definition. And the murders happened by pure bad luck and timing - their car broke down when they were driving back home to the city after celebrating their engagement with a day at the beach. In the comic it's Shelly who's shot dead at the scene (after being raped....and before) and Eric is shot in the head but remains conscious and incapacitated and has to lie there watching what happens to Shelly, then flatlines later at the hospital on the operating table.
It's really hard to remember this because the movie has become a much better known entity, but in the comic we never actually see Eric resurrected from the dead, crawl out of his grave, etc. The narrative is very ambiguous and an equally valid interpretation of the comic is that Eric somehow survived being shot, the emotional and physical trauma have made him pretty much insane, and his love and anger and grief are so profound that he literally cannot die until he's murdered everyone. The bird isn't a supernatural entity, it's a hallucination. During one of the fight scenes towards the end of his revenge spree Eric says a speech about "Its not death if you refuse it".
I like the comic and the film equally, it's just that the film is VERY different story wise. Which is why I'm open minded (so far) about the alleged new film that's allegedly happening. Everyone involved is on record (including James O'Barr) that it's not a remake of the film, it's a new adaptation of the comic and one they're trying to make more true to the comic. And that will mos def be interesting to see.
M Ad best description is best. I prefer the comics personally. I am curious why they changed the car scene and why they got rid of the House for the apartment though.
Wrong. Eric is dead. Dead as dead can be but his soul ain't. And it can't rest till they pay. He's a zombie with a haunted soul. It's not death if you refuse it- that's what a soul with unfinished business is.
That's not an equally valid interpretation of the comic you don't naturally gain the ability to just not die due to grief and anger. It's not explicit but everything points to it being supernatural vengeful resurrection just because it's not outwardly stated somehow the opposite is an equally valid interpretation? No.
The movie actually shows him get hurt and not really being able to remember exactly what happened to him and Shelly.
I think what you said would be a more valid interpretation of the movie he imagined his resurrection and all the scenes of him being invincible are just to embellish the greatness of his vengeance and then the crow being wounded is a metaphorical thing it doesn't actually give him power it was just the idea he had it. The villains thought it gave him power but it was all in their heads, because it was in his head and the heads of everyone he killed.
The novel made it clear enough to know that he is supernatural
YESSS!!! THANK YOU!!! I love both the Graphic Novel and Movie, the movie in particular. It's one of all time favorite movies.
i love the tv show too
I'm super into the webseries atm.
Eric: "I guess it's not a good day to be a bad guy, huh Skank?"
Skank: "I'm not Skank. There's Skank right there. Heh! Skank's dead!"
Eric: "That's right."
So much love for this film. :)
@@TheNinetySecond what web series?
The comics also had a skull cowboy who acted like the personification of Death. It was supposed to be in the movie but the cut the scene out in the last second. In the movie Skull cowboy warns Eric that he lost his powers before he enters the church at the end so he 's some what of a mentor. Also in the Graphic novel the crow does speak to Eric and was even present when he was murder telling him not to look. The way Shelly and Eric were murdered was also different in the graphical novel since their car broke down. The thugs just showed up and raped Shelly one at a time while Eric was shot in the back of his head damaging his left eye which makes it discolored some what blue. T bird is more of the final boss in the comic
R. I. P Brandon Lee😢
I read the comic years after I watched the movie, and I can honestly say that both stand strong alone. Many times are movie adaptations garbage, but "The Crow" has been an all time fav ever since I was young. I would say that the comic tells the story of Eric and Shelly a bit better because in the film, you don't really see the beauty in their relationship. You only get short cuts of them tossing and turning in bed. The comic however, literally takes breaks to tell goofy short stories about Eric and Shelly that make you fall in love with them, while knowing all the while that their love will be stripped away. This makes you feel Eric's pain much more personally, as the further he goes on his vengeful rampage, so does the loss of Shelly pain his soul even more.
Poor Brandon Lee! He didn't deserve to die the way he did! Don't mess around with guns, people, they're very unpredictable, even with blanks in them!
Also, don't let the assistant propmaster load the gun, wait for when the head propmaster is around and let them load it!
If only they'd done that instead of rushing to meet that stupid deadline! They didn't remember that "Haste makes waste." and in this case, the waste ended up being the waste of the life of the son of one of the greatest, if not the greatest, martial artists of all time!
no one messed with guns... it was rehearsed what happen was a sad accident
It was compound negligence is what it was. The gun shouldn't even have been pointing directly at Lee, never mind the litany of other lazy errors.
JonMacFhearghuis Hopefully nothing happens to his sister!
This is one of my favorite movies and the soundtrack is killer. Henry Rollins, NIN, and the Joy Division cover are the best
AWESOME fraking soundtrak!!!!!!!!!!!
And Henry Rollins getting his ass kicked by Skank was hilarious.
"You stupid ass hair! You hit my car!"
The Cure is Goth Rock, not Grunge.
Yeah these people need to stop talking about things they don’t know and act like they’re experts
fun fact: fun boy was in part based on iggy pop. he ended up being in the sequel and on it's soundtrack.
They originally wanted him to play that part but passed
Have you ever seen the movie "The Wraith"? Same type of story-line and there is even a character named Funboy!
@@Cable2k You're thinking of Gutterboy in The Wraith, but nice connection.
The Crow will always be my all time Fav & loved it since I watched it at the movies in 1994 with my mates. RIP Brandon Lee.
*_R.I.P. Brandon Lee._*
I teared up half a dozen times just seeing snippets of scenes. I love The Crow beyond words.
In the book Eric dies from two gunshots to the head that fractured his skull and ruptured his iris. As The crow he has a very visible scar running about half an inch under his right eye, across his nose and curving back up connect to the middle his left eye socket. His left eye is also a lighter blue due to his ruptured iris . That is one hell of a big detail you guys left out.
If you watch the Bluray you can actually see the scar that runs from his nose to his eye, but the makeup obscures it on DVD and VHS versions.
***** I haven't gotten around to watching my bluray copy of it. I'll have to check that out.
Not to mention the fact, there's nothing about their apartment owned by a crime boss, who ordered a hit on Eric and shelly for petioning for tenant rights in the book. In fact the original attack doesn't take place in the apartment. They where driving when their car broke down, and the gang finds them stranded on the side of the road, and attacks them killing Shelly, and seriously wounding Eric, then leaving them on the roadside.
Yep. I find the comic version so much more powerful because the whole point is to show how accidental and pointless the whole thing was. Wrong time, wrong place, that's all it takes to have everything you love ripped from you. It makes sense that they connected everything more in the movie since movies are all about explaining motivations but still... nothing shook me as much as reading the comic for the first time and feeling the injustice of it all.-sigh- seeing this video makes me miss the old abahb website and the crowcoll forums peeps....
It's been awhile since I read it, but if I recall correctly in the comic Eric was never declared dead. He disappeared from the hospital and then promptly went on his vengeance spree. The original comic never actually settles the question if Eric came back from the dead or was simply doped up on so many street drugs he took from the gang members that he just kept going.
Still waiting for a WtD on Silence of the Lambs.
They'd have to do the whole Lecter series in order to get enough material... The three canonical films are _very_ similar to their book counterparts (especially Silence of the Lambs).
L.D. Johnson do you think if they do red dragon they would do book, movie and to series? (2nd half of season 3)
its fairly accurate, although Lecter has 6 fingers and some other personality changes
I still wanna see it.
Well, I mean, they could easily do it with the show Hannibal...
I think the biggest departure is really the "Kill the crow, kill the man" twist. This was interesting in how it differed from the book (wherein the crow was more spectral, talking to Eric, and quite possibly unseen by anyone other than him). But of course, that became the trope that they beat to death in the increasingly awful series of remake-as-sequels. The villains always have the same revelation and spend half the third act trying to kill a goddamn bird that, in the comics, was arguably just a phantom.
I think the main difference, aside from the superficial ones like the dead cowboy of the kill-the-bird-kill-the-man scenario, is in the very character of Eric. The first time I saw the movie, I was surprised at how SANE he was compared to his comic counterpart. Comic Eric is completely fucking unhinged, while movie Eric is angry, grieving and vengeful, but he's still holding together pretty well. He can even have actual, sensible conversations with other people. Comic Eric is also physically and mentally self-destructive, it's like he has a knife stuck in his soul and can never stop twisting it, while movie Eric is trying to come to terms with his grief. It's an abyssal difference in character that affects the whole tone of the story.
Three of us went to see this movie upon it's release. We had all read the book. We watched, rapt, until the movie's conclusion. To our surprise, the packed house Did. Not. Move. Until the last of the credits were done. RIP Brandon Lee: You will never be forgotten. What a great interpretation of J. O'Barr's vision.
isn't it revealed that top dollar's girlfriend is actually his sister? in the movie at least.
i think so
pish posh l think so l do remember something like that
They're half-siblings at the least; Top himself says that Mica is his father's daughter.
Yep.. wording. She's my Father's Daughter. But when a guy smokes other people's eyeballs for fun, I don't think he cares who he's fucking.
Yeah once you start smoking people's body parts... incest is kind of no big deal.
A rare case in which "Hollywooding" actually made the movie better.
Burn by The Cure too...it's an incredible soundtrack
I LOVE this movie - I also have the comic and in my opinion the film is better than the book - which very rarely happens. there is such good acting and the soundtrack is fab.
"So that was 'The Crow.' I loved it! Are there any other 'Crow' movies, Dad?"
"No, son. Just the one."
could you guys do what Is the Difference Between Oldboy graphic novel and film.
James Millington THERES A GRAPHIC NOVEL?!?!
Deebo Molina
Manga.
Deebo Molina it's very different
original Korean film or Hollywood remake?
old boy is a manga
The Crow is cursed, don't do it Momoa!!
He's apparently already signed on for it, it just hasn't been announced in an official capacity.
There have been major changes in the way prop weapons are handled since Brandon's time. An accident of the same sort has almost 0% chance of happening on a professional film set today.
Jesus just realized they look very alike!
Are they making a new movie? I haven't heard anything on it, the first one is the greatest movie of all time the 2nd (think it's called City of Angels) and the 3rd (forget the name but I want to say it's something like Salvation?) Are good to, the 4th movie (Wicked Prayer) was awful though.
werewolf914
Yeah, they've been trying to reboot it since 2008. The plan, last anyone heard, was to more directly adapt the comic.
I can't wait to buy the special edition of the comic. I also never saw the movie in full, but what I have seen is amazing! Brandon Lee played the character amazingly well and leaves behind an legendary legacy. It's a shame he lost his life, but Brandon leaves behind a performance that shall not be forgot. R.I.P.
You know, I always took the book as he didn't die. He was in the hospital and the crow kept harassing him to get up and go. The shear will for revenge gave him the urge to fight. The panel of shooting heroin straight into his neck or the massive amounts of morphine taken before the gin mill was kind of a sign that he was hanging on by hatred and lack of physical feeling. In the end, being shot that many times and ingesting that much drugs had him finally succumb.
...I'd also like to point-out that the film does a LOT of things differently than the comic. The Detroit/Devil's Night thing is exclusive to the film (if I remember correctly, the comic takes place on or around Xmas), Death is a character in the comic (sort of), in addition to flashbacks there are scenes of overt symbolism (Eric dancing with Shelly's corpse), and of course the fact that in the comic the bird talks.
Oh, and in the comic Eric's face has a drop of blood from the attack permanently scarred onto his face creating an effect under certain lighting conditions that make his eyes and nose take the shape of a crow - something that doesn't appear in the film itself but kind of makes an appearance in some of the advertising.
This is my favorite movie Ever! I was actually named after him.
Been waiting for this FOREVER! Thank you Cinefix for doing this episode! The Crow is my favorite graphic novel ever!(preferably the Author's Edition which was what O'Barr originally intended but still)Again, Thanks a bunch! Keep on rolling!
from a kid who grew up south of Detroit, a big fan of this book and very much heart broken when found out Brandon was killed. This video was a good job, not your guys best, but you guys did good. I give you a thumbs up
Brandon and The Crow became mythic...just like Bruce and Game Of Death
Back in the day I wore out my copy of the crow! Both vhs/graphic novel and soundtrack!
Man, that soundtrack still rocks.
Yes! Its the definitive grunge/industrial/alternative rock of the 90s!
thanks so much i was so exsited when i saw the thumbnail! the crow is one of my all-time favorite comic books
Movie Top Dollar is one of the most underrated movie villains ever! He should be on more lists!
So, the video left out one more thing... In the book, it's not explicitly stated that Eric Draven is dead. It's left ambiguous whether Eric really died or not.
Yeah I totally agree, but when you have a character that can withstand a rain of bullets and still walk, there's not much room for doubt whether he's dead or not. Because you can't kill something that's already dead right?
Heather Gonzalez He got shot up with morphine and I think adrenaline before all the bullet wounds. Then he went to Shelly's grave, potentially to die.
What is dead may never die.
Yes, I was waiting for them to point that out in the video. Eric "died" in the hospital, but he wasn't a zombie as he was in the movie. He did a lot of drugs throughout the comic to keep himself high, pain-free, and blacked out so he could go out and do all that stuff. He was stabbed a few times through the comic, but they never manage to fatally shoot him until the end where things really DO get super mystical.
I don't know what you're talking about. When you see his naked torso, you can see the bullet holes already closed. Morphine can save you from pain, adrenaline can keep you running (as long as you have mobility and enough blood, which would not be the case), but sadly no drug yet can quickly regenerate tissue.
Cool I just started rewatching the crow on Netflix too, such a good movie.
The Crow in the graphic novel is hinted at being a manifestation of Eric's psychosis or a super natural entity that only he can see, as no one else seems to acknowledge it. It talks to him, gives him advice, and tries persuading him to come out of his memories and self pity to get his mission accomplished and punish those who killed Shelly. Thus, the crow isn't a weakness like the Hollywood-Ivied version because we're not even sure if the crow is visibly manifested for anyone other than Eric.
Another difference if I remember correctly is that Eric's last name isn't revealed in the graphic novel.
There's also the scar under the eye as someone else mentioned, and the fact his hair caught on fire after being shot for the second time. The graphic novel is also up for more interpretation on whether it's Eric's dying fantasy, whether he is truly dead or not (Though he obviously survives a lot of fatal things), and so forth.
Tom Tom wasn't in the movie.
In the graphic novel, Eric allows Funboy to overdose in order to kill himself as a mercy for aiding him to get T-Bird's notice. Eric and Funboy also have a longer dialogue that shows despite being an unrepentant junkie bastard, Funboy at some point in his life was a pretty intellectual guy.
Eric's body also acted more like a zombies than the movie depiction which looked like a Wolverine'esque healing factor. In fact it's after carving up his arm that he wraps it in electric tape until the bleeding stops while the movie really has no reason for it other than to look edgy.
The dialog matchup with the old timey clips is great. Well done +cinefix!
Thanks! Always fun finding these little vintage footage gems.
The Crow is a little odd, in that it went through two different stages of "Hollywoodification."
The original script kept the notion that the bird itself was more of a spirit than a thing of flesh and blood, and wasn't a source of vulnerability as in the final version of the movie. Instead. the old script took a minor character from the comic- the Skull Cowboy- and elevated it to the status of exposition character and guide for Eric.
One of his most important lessons comes after Eric pauses in his search for revenge, and attempts to help a living victim of violence... only to discover that the wounds he takes in the process don't magically heal. (In the final version of the movie, you can still find a trace of this unused scene: the duct tape that appears without explanation, wrapped around his torso, is from Eric's makeshift attempt to seal off the dead flesh.) As the Skull Cowboy explains, Eric has been brought back to avenge the dead- *not* the living.
That's why Eric is without his powers when he goes back to rescue Sarah. The script was reworked, in part, because of the argument Eric and the Skull Cowboy have when he turns back. It ends with the Skull Cowboy telling Eric, "Then choose and be damned!" While it was a great scene, it was deemed a little too on-point given Brandon Lee's death during the filming. (Likewise, Top Dollar's admission that he was the ultimate reason for Eric and Shelly's deaths effectively adds him to Eric's kill list retroactively- giving Eric the power to take final vengeance on him.)
But doesn't Sarah say in the beginning, that the crow brings a person back, "to set the wrong things right"? And Sarah is his and Shelly's friend, so isn't Eric setting one of those wrong things right, by saving her mom from one of his killers? Also, I'm pretty sure none of those other gang members at the meeting had anything to do with Eric and Shelly's murder, yet he's able to get through that long battle unharmed.
JStryker47 true but that’s because they left skull cowboy out of the movie all together so he could do a lot more then just avenge the dead.
Don't forget Pantera also do the 80s heavy metal trick or treat it take place on Halloween
The Skull Cowboy would have been a great addition to this movie. Still my favorite but I wish they didn't cut those scenes
About damn time!!! Thank you soooooo much Cinefix!!! Now I need to buy both the original and special edition comics, score and soundtrack and blu-ray!!! LOVE THE CROW
Pretty good but should have mentioned the Skull Cowboy and the fact Draven is only allowed to pursue his revenge. If he tries to do other things or tries to kil lhimself he does not die but the wounds will not close like those inflicted on him while attacking his enemies
3:04 fucking perfect, i was waiting for him to say it
David Patrick Kelly (T-Bird) and Michael Masse (Funboy) were also in an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent together. The episode also had Joan Jett and Noel Fisher.
"i Iied!" :-) and he's Luther in 48hrs and he's in twin peaks - heII of a c.v.
I kept asking for a "things you didn't know about the crow" but this is just as good.
Did he say “You heard me rapping?” LoL!
Do I Am Legend next! The movie is a total piss storm compared to the book
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sooo tragic
....the dog
I dunno about the book but will smith is the only saving grace of I am Legend. It had some good elements but there's a difference between potential and reality and the movie is the latter. Also the ending sucked. Both of them did.
The real ending of the book is solo much better and actually gives reason to the title
Eric was modeled after Iggy Pop, the dancing is a direct reference. I feel the obstacle in the comic was Eric facing his own psyche, and death seeking to claim him. Eric on the train with the crow is one of the best parts. The horse dying on the fence is seared into my memory. The movie preaches that love is forever, the comic is more about pain and anguish. His love is what starts it all, but the pain and need for vengeance is the true driving force.
I would actually argue that Eric was more directly modeled after Peter Murphy of Bauhaus. The hair and general facial structure fits, plus it jibes more with Eric's overall goth aesthetic. Funboy would be the more direct Iggy Pop expy, especially when you take into consideration that Iggy was meant to play the character in the film, but couldn't due to other obligations. It was because of this that Iggy would wind up playing the villain in one of the sequels.
Wrong, he was directly inspired by Peter Murphy.
Ur naration and soto voce comments just made this 100% lit!
Well done u! Now I'm off to watch more of ur vids. Thanx.
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I'm not surprised at all that this is one of my mum's favourite movies. The soundtrack features bands she loves, there's Edgar Allen Poe references, sexy emotionally tortured emo man, occult shit, gothic imagery, corvids. If I was to make a movie that fit into my mum's tastes, it would pretty much be exactly the same as The Crow.
I want to watch this movie again now. It's so brilliant
AWESOME video
Loving this series, well done to the editors for keeping it interesting.
Would love to see an episode on The Neverending Story - there's a lot to go on between the book and the movie!
Love your video guys! Keep up the great work :)
Silence of the Lambs - What's the Difference?
Damn I love this graphic novel. Its helped me to write my best.
This will always remain one of my favorite movies. Nice vid!
I’m new to The Crow fandom, and I’m already falling in love with this movies score. :)
You joked about him looking like buff Rod Stewart, but O'Barr has said that he actually is modeled after a different rock star: Daniel Ash from Love & Rockets (and Bauhaus).
the crow is the second best graphic novel ever written. Not as good as watchmen, but it's close.
I like Death, the Sandman character's book. And Punk Rock Jesus.
Watchmen is my favorite graphic novel to, but when it comes to the movies it's reversed The Crow is my favorite movie of all time and Watchmen is my 3rd favorite movie of all time.
I personally think V for Vendetta was better than Watchmen, but The Crow is still in my top 5.
I see you've never heard of Japan
Read enough manga, and maybe you too will finally accept that fanservice and porn are the loftiest ideals to which a verbal medium can aspire
7:23 I always loved how in the movie that shot of Eric aka Brandon Lee is in Slow Mo. I loved the movie had ever since it came out and the sound track is Total Fire. Anyway I didn’t realize that the movie was a comic book first until many years later. I’m a big fan of them both and btw great Video I like your channel so I just subscribed 🤘🏼
His dad would be proud, what a great actor!
Great Video!!! but...
Movie Crow was a musician
Book Crow was a mechanic
Movie Crow was murdered at home
Book Crow was murdered in the middle of nowhere, trying to fix his car.
Doe's anyone else remember the creepy skeleton dude that spoke to Eric from time to time in the book? Then you'll be happy to know he is in a deleted scene of the film... BOOM! BONUS THING YOU DIDN'T KNOW!!!
and both film and book are dedicated to Brandon Lee... well in the book that I have. Don't know about you guys?
I would love to see those deleted scenes, but I can't get a legitimate copy of the film where I'm at.
Master Wayne you forgot this...
Movie crow is retrieved by Shelly and goes to heaven
Book crow goes to her grave and shoots him self in the head with a shotgun.
Here's a few extras: Eric's surname in the comic isn't "Draven", it's "Curtis", after Joy Division's Ian Curtis. O'Barr is a very big Joy Division fan, having named a number of the chapters and leaving references to Joy Division songs. Eric was also designed after the singer of Bauhaus, Peter Murphy. I believe the ending of the comic also implies that Eric kills himself. His final quote ends on a panel of the Colt Python he used in the last battle laying on the ground next to him.
Yes :) That's the ending implied in Sparklehorse, the last chapter. But this was only included in the 2011 Special Edition of the graphic novel. The new epilogue also suggests that he is indeed reunited with Shelly.
Great video! I love both the graphic novel and the movie, so this was really interesting to watch :)
FINALLY!! These are my favorite videos!
The movie simply improve the book, the tone and everything. Brandon Lee is so iconic as Crow. Rip Brandon Lee, the greatest man gone way too fast.
I've heard that writing this actually made the author feel worse about his own trauma - wonder if the movie version helped HIM confront his grief?
A small detail, but I feel like Top Dollar didn't have to fall off the building to be finally defeated. I think that if the audience got a shot of him crawled up in a corner with a distant or insane look out of sorrow or something it would have been more effective.
I love these videos. Your page is awesome. Can you by any chance do the next one on the difference between the movie and novel Forrest Gump, or Die Hard and Nothing Lasts Forever (the book on which it is based)?
You guys kick ass, Keep doing what you're doing
You guys should do no country for old men next
What about the Skull Cowboy?
Kevan Combs They cut his part out after Brandon died. There’s grainy footage of him at the church door talking to Eric
@@martyann1377 yeah but is he in the books?
Lena Gotti Yes Skull Cowboy is in the original book With Eric
Still stands as one of my favorite movies of all time. Such a sad loss, but befitting, and sealed Brandon's legacy.
Loves this movie. Remember going to see it at the theater. getting all excited hearing NIN in the score too!!!
also. the Crow needs a DMC style action game
they did come out with a crow game back in the day check out the angry video game nerd he did a review on it
true. but i just kinda want an character action one tho
Sure did it was a Kool idea they should come out with one for the ps4 but make it a free roam game
Paul Hensley OMG THAT WOULD BE SO EPIC! Like you could gets like crow feathers that would allow to buy upgrades to weapons or powers.
do clock work orange please
It's a short book. Why not read it yourself?
+Char Aznable because is very hard to find and more hard to find it in my native lenguage
Paul Morressey Ah, OK. I wasn't aware that it's translation was tough to find in a foreign tongue. My apologies.
Well, SPOILER WARNING.
In summary, Alex was 14 in the novel, the snake was just a prank Kubric played on Malcolm McDowell who was afraid of snakes, the three way was actually non-consensual with girls aged 9 who he got drunk, there was a lot more Nadsat, and there was a 21st chapter taking place a few years later, with Alex getting bored of leading his posse for the same old gang stuff (as well as gang violence escalating and cop heat getting worse) until he meets one of his droogs, who he finds happily married and he reconsiders what he wants to do with his life.
Also, the movie toned down the violence and rape by being artsy, while the book used more Nadsat as a means of being less explicit about all the rape and violence. The book was quite graphic.
Malik Hansen There are some editions that incorporated a Nadsat dictionary in the back. The version I read did not have one, but the language is basically Anglicized Russian.
soomka.com/nadsat.html
Give it another go. It gets much easier as you go.
Personally, I thought it added charm to what would have otherwise been disgustingly offensive. I once read a book called "The Hillside Stranglers" about the serial killers of the same name. THAT book was among the most sickening and offensive pieces of shit I've ever read. Serial rape/murder literotica. Disgusting. I only mention it because Burgess's use of made-up teen slang allows him to tell a story nearly as perverse while keeping the tone as whimsical and cynical as our 14 year old delinquent of a protagonist.
They already did a video about that
A story element from the graphic novel was fleshed out extensively in the film but around up on the cutting room floor. The 'Ghost Cowboy' was a fleeting apparition that wasn't relevant and pretty scarse in the graphic novel. The character was crucial to the plot but deleted because the makeup fx didn't really work. This omission also takes the explanation of Eric's addition of electrical tape to his look along with it.
this is my favorite movie of all time. first time I saw this I cried like a little child it is just perfect.
I really should dig this out and watch it again... anyone else wonder if them doing a remake might be enough to pressure the studio to let the original director recut City of Angels to what he had originally intended? (If you haven't seen that video, look it up. Also, fuck the Weinsteins)
got a link to that?
Good Bad Flicks did a video about it.
Do kingsman the secret service next
That would be a good one.
One problem - there's so much stuff they changed in the movie that all it really shares with the original comic are its title, the fact it's about spies and some of the character's names
I read the comic and watched the movie and I think there's still a really good chunk of similarities
In honor of Halloween, I would like to request a super-special three-way "What's the Difference?" between Bram Stoker's 1897 novella "Dracula", the 1931 Universal film of the same name starring Bela Lugosi (which itself was a film adaptation of a 1924 stage play), and the 1992 Francis Ford Coppola film, "Bram Stoker's Dracula."
This story's history of adaptation is so layered that it could easily have its own multi-part series on this channel. Heck, if you want to go for the hat trick, you could also discuss the 1922 F.W. Murnau film "Nosferatu", its attempt to subvert copyright, and the subsequent legal battle that ordered all copies of the film to be destroyed!
I just saw The Crow at Alamo this past week. It still holds up in so many ways.
Not even a thumbnail yet!