The Space Battle That Absolutely Shattered Trust in Republic Governance
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:44 The Final Operation
3:48 Chaos on Coruscant
7:03 Saving the Best for Last
11:11 Outro - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I always felt that one of the major reasons why the Senate applauded Palpatine's declaration of the Galactic Empire was because many of them remembered the massive battle that had literally taken place on their doorstep just days earlier and anything that would prevent a situation like that again was welcome
One of the reasons why real-world dictatorships enjoy popular support is that the population remembers the chaos, lawlessness and poverty that came beforehand. It's only later when the new rulers gouge the nation that unrest begins.
Don't forget it as well that this film came out three years after 9/11. George, Lucas was definitely taking a lot of inspiration from that
@@klaykid117 even in 2024 you can see the same pattern though - populations applaud strongmen, tighter control and authoritarian regimes when they sense an internal or external threat to their safety or way of life. Think Putin or Saddam Hussein putting their countries back together after prolonged periods of mismanagement and then proceeding to get away with murder and pillage. Here in Australia a Federal Senator recently made headlines by calling for the national army to work alongside the territory police to quell street violence in regional towns. In the United States Trump is (rightly or wrongly) seen to be the only presidential candidate taking a serious stance against Mexican drug cartels across the southern border. In Africa and South-East Asia we have military regimes seizing power from openly corrupt or incompetent democratic government, and in Israel we have what can charitably be described as one big mess. Whatever your private thoughts on the politicians and issues involved, the modern world is increasingly favouring authoritarian rule in the pursuit of "a safer and securer society".
Pretty much like trump?
Man imagine looking at the Republic causally allowing and even committing Genocide and going this is fine. But when Grievous yeets onto Coruscant screaming your head off. No wonder Palpy managed to become Emperor
Suffering for thee but not for me. And all that...
@@brother_bear_one7340 republic and cis:
Almost like all war stories are allegories for the real world
@@brother_bear_one7340 republic and CIS:
@@brother_bear_one7340 republic and separatists:
"After disabling the final capital ship, General Kenobi and Skywalker took advantage of the opportunity we'd created and rescued the Chancellor. Took all the credit, too."
- 501st Journal
The clone wars micro series did a great job showing the ground battle and space battle.
Well put
@@user-mk3wg2de3u thanks
Thanks
Love how ships emerged from hyperspace only to hit another one and explode
@@tomaskops7119 oops
It’s mind boggling how we’ve never seen such an amazing and extensive cinematic space battle like this on the big screen since this film came out all the way back in 2005.
Why can’t we have amazing cinematic space battles like this in our big blockbuster films!?!!?!? 🥺
I’d rather rewatch timeless gems like ROTS (my favorite movie) than newly released garbage not worth watching.
That being said The Boys In The Boat is a great film, worth watching;)
@@LordWyatt The prequels wouldn’t have been made if enough people thought the same.
@@wildfire9280doubtful
Because hollywood is lazy, incompetent, and an agenda driven mess. Stick to Animes such as Gundam, Space Battleship Yamato, and Legend of the Galactic Heroes if you want space battles.
@@ikmalkamal5830 some of the OT space battles were directly inspired by SBY, there's a good argument to be made that it's where Uncle George got "space broadsides" from
love how there is a picture of Covenant worships glassing the city just added in 😂😂
I am imagining the "Fleet of Particular Justice" just completely glassing the planet....erasing all life on the surface and burning down the galactic city in "New Alexandria" style.
@@originalbastav7346the republic wouldn’t let it slide bruv
@@bradyfletcher7153 I don’t think they would mind as a faction. Only loyal dissidents would.
@@wildfire9280 maybe I am a loyal dissident
The republic would get beaten after a long hard fight @@bradyfletcher7153
The poetic part about Anakin and Obi-wan was beautiful.
We are still flying half a ship
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a game that took place in Courscant from a POV of a clone or civilian solder. Seeing all that chaos occurring and surviving with a rag tag team and lack of equipment. Almost like Halo ODST in a way.
The Agent of the Empire comics briefly shows it from the perspective of the MCs fleeing family if that’s satisfactory enough.
Call of Duty: Coruscant
It'll probably get cancelled
@@xxvaltielxx1789 Trick's on you!
EA read these comments and pre-cancelled the game.
Next month, they'll pick a smaller gaming company to give the project, then shut them down and buy their assets so they can lay of 90% of the staff.
The CIS military could have fought on for decades longer i feel like. They lost because their high command was wiped out.
The CIS entire existence revolves around losing a war. They were setup to lose, and they were never going to win. But yeah they would have lasted longer without this battle, but that was sort of the point.
@violet9214 Had the CIS been on a level playing field, the war would have never ended.
Kinda strange how the Senate District and every other area of Coruscant is free of visible damage from what was a fairly brutal attack in ROTS. It was present in the Novelization however.
The fact that Padme was shocked about the smoke emanating from the Jedi Temple is a good indicator that he hadn't seen anything like that recently...
"Well done, gents. With flying like that, the Republic is well on its way to victory."
“Genocide? How quint” Imperium of Man.
ofc one of u warhammer fan are gonna comment on star wars yall cant resist
@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus3976 Of course we cant. Many of us love Star Wars too much. ❤
I believe you mean QUAINT lol.
@@Izrek clearly…
@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus3976Forgive us, but we’re basically the vegans of Sci-Fi; we gotta bring up Warhammer 40K even at the slightest inkling of a conversation going to Sci-Fi 😂
Duuuuude when you were reading the part with the younglings, the music and knowing what they are about to say gave me instant goosebumps!
I hope we get to see more depictions of the Battle of Coruscant. There is an enormous space to tell stories from the buildup to the siege, to the opening moves of the battle, to the exhausted struggle before the conclusion. You could set an entire season of a show in the Battle before Kenobi and Skywalker arrive, from the clearing of the mass-shadow mines to the foiling of the Separatist jamming to the failed attempts to rescue the Chancellor.
Everything’s fine until the war ends up on your doorstep.
America
Damn the way it is discribed here is WARHAMMER 40K level.
do you wanna know why there so many desert planets in star wars
@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus3976 SITH and JEDI have a theological dispute.
The Republic could easily rebuild trust by handing out some Cerveza Cristal
Before watching the video: Okay, based on the title "A Space Battle that destroyed the trust in the Republic's Goverment" I'm betting this is another video on the Battle of Duro, given that because of the descions of certain Senators the fleet there was weakened giving Grevious an easy time conquring the planet, so that defiantly shattered trust in Republic Governance and gave Palpatine more power because the people couldn't trust the Senators to do their jobs right so they voted to give him more power. And it would be the first time this channel has made mutliple videos discussing the same battle as seen by the multiple videos on the Battles of Atraken and Umbara.
After watching the video: Okay, I was only kind of right as it was a battle already discussed and one that also invovled Grevious like Duro, but other than that I was way off base.
Also, I'm not a big book fan, so I've never read the Revenge of the Sith novelization, I've only heard quotes from it from Wookipedia, and videos made by Star Wars CZcamsrs, including you, Geetsly, but I do have to say: Hot damn that is the greatest opening segway for Obi-Wan and Anakin's arrival ever. The Clone Wars may have been the end of the age of heroes with the Empire rising and killing most of them, but as many shows and comics from the Clone Wars have shown most of these heroes at least went out in blazes of heroic glory be they Jedi, Clone, Separatists, or so on. And I saulte them.
I really love that you referenced the ROTS novel, that's a fantastic piece of work in EU media that expands the movie to such a great degree that we don't see in the film and I loved how you used that as a reference in this video!
Usually, I can't help but feel like you mix a lot of "canon" information with EU/Legends infomation in a lot your other videos. The problem with doing that is, the Filoni Clone Wars tv show and EU/Legends Clone Wars are very, very different, story context wise. And a lot of events that did take place in EU have been retconned or made completely non-canon by TCW.
I hate to sound like a critic but it brings a lot of confusion half the time to a lot of new viewers that haven't consumed any media from the old Clone Wars Multimedia Project, and/or only watched TCW.
Despite all the weapons, ships and other militaristic structures of the Clone Wars, the one true ultimate weapon throughout the conflict’s duration was fear. Its range had no limits, its area of effect was limitless, its trigger was invisible, and only the Dark Lord of the Sith knew how to point and shoot it the way he did, but more than that, it not only had the power to destroy societies, but also corrupt Republics, and make its peoples embrace Empires and its imperialistic crushing dominating power with the mask of a saving grace.
Two battles I have always been interested in hearing more about would be the battle to break the mandolorian Blockade during the Mandolorian War and the Battle for the Star Forge during the Jedi Civil War.
Wasn't that trust shattered long before?
It was shattered multiple times throughout the Clone Wars.
Palpatine had to be sure to crush it completely for his plan, so that's why he quadrople tapped. lol.
Well, since you asked about other space battles we might be curious of, what about a future battle of Coruscant? Or rather, the battle of Yuzhan 'tar?
I love the battle of coruscant what a great way to start revenge of the sith
It was a great way to end the 2003 Clone Wars Micro-series too.
The plan that led to the Battle of Coruscant according to Darth Sidious has one flaw in my view. How can he know that the communication system on Coruscant will be restored in time? After all, General Grievous and the Separatists fleet will not stayed forever. They will leave immediately once they have the Chancellor in their custody. And if that happened, that means his plan failed and the search for him is going to allow the Separatists to regain the momentum in the Outer Rim Sieges.
@@bernardoayres1139 Man, imagined luck favored him no more. That is when Palpatine is screwed up for real and the war will be dragging on longer than the one we see. Why? Because the search for him and the battles at the strategic locations such as Kashyyyk will be such a contesting debate both in the Senate and the Jedi Council alike. After all, both are important.
Palpatine was hands down brilliant in how he manipulated the Clone Wars to his advantage.
Also is there any media showing what the Jedi thought of the secret reinforcements that arrived at this battle? Didn’t the chancellor have hundreds of star destroyers show up from out of nowhere?
What did the troops who made up this secret fleet know about their purpose and assignment?
Why Disney make a small micro series of the ground battle, that would be so epic.
But of course not. We only saw bits and pieces and yes i know ( the other series).
7:13 brilliant use of unrelated pic with related vibe 👍
So in other words, the battle of Corescaunt was the Republic's 9/11. And instead of getting the patriot act, they got the empire
I wouldn't be opposed to an animated miniseries about the battle of coruscant both naval and ground battles ending with anakin and obiwan flying in
Star Wars Clone Wars (the 2D series) has some scenes of it.
I’m only at the start of the video but yeah the republic would have lost the war. The fact that so many ships were able to be discreetly transferred and hidden is insanity.
wonder what happened to Grevious's fighter from Utapou.
repo’d for being late on the lease
An absolutely fantastic and awesome video
great video!
So, it would be accurate to say that this was the CIS' Battle of the Bulge?
I feel like sw needs more perspectives from the average citizens. We don't even need to make new trilogies, just a short series about deep dives on things like this could earn Disney lots of money. Too bad it won't happen.
I think this was over the top attack that was a mistake on the CIS's part. They should have opted for a stealth abduction of Palpatine or surgical strike of sorts vs this over dramatic attack. Of course I know the real purpose was to push Anakin deeper into the dark side but still from strategic PoV this was a mistake. Besides if your gonna launch attack like that you should go all out. Don't commit a 6th of your fleet. Commit half of it and enough supplies to invade ten Coruscant's. Don't prepare for a week of fighting. Prepare for a month of fighting. Then on top that have some secret capital ship killers up your sleeve or two to use at the last moment.
Well yes ofc it was a mistake, but since the CIS was manipulated into a role of a threat to build up the Empire, it was on purpose. If the CIS really did tried to win, they would have, considering their superiority it numbers, overall military preparation, more diverse fleet composition and experienced commanders (the outer rim had to defend itself against pirates and other threats for basically centuries) within the first half of the war. If they had unleashed all this 100% right from the beginning, the Republic would have lost. Especially since losing a war dosen't have to mean having all of your territory conquered, simply losing faith and support from the public can be enough to lose a war.
I love that battle
“The Message from the Younglings is the same. Dont worry! Anakin and Obi-Wan will be there any minute”
I know later on, Just Anakin will be there any minute though for a…different reason
Nice episode.
Another happy landing...
Grievous was ready to let his master die like that 💀
Couldn't one of the Jedi masters communicate a simple message to another Jedi beyond Coruscant, circumventing the jamming, hyperspace interdiction, and blockade?
Another happy landing
Yep Ani & Obi arrived with a pizza for the Chancellor
WOW 😮 😮
Give us a breakdown of the Legends battle of Yag'dul
I appreciate the captions bros ❤️
Didn't realize that up front the Republic outnumbered the CIS - the CIS had maybe 2000-3000 capital ships (being overly generous here with estimates) and the Republic seemed to have just as many (even if not as many heavy ones) as the battle started - if they already had thousands of Venators.
And wonder how they were able to bypass the Coruscant planetary shields. Shouldn't those be the most powerful (at the time) in the galaxy and given state of war always ready to be powered up?
Probably palpatine, thats how
@@tfg009 Or maybe even arrogance. People on Coruscant felt safe and also it was a major trading hub, so having everything and everyone on alert 24/7 without a proper military risk may have just done more bad than good for the economy and public morale.
I mean, the USA also didn't really prepare for any kind of German air attacks yet alone invasions on the east coast during WW2, believing that the US navy would protect them. I'd bet the people of Coruscant felt the same. And kinda rightfully so: Without the secret hyperroutes this attack would have not been possible, at least not without enough warning time.
So its plausible the shields were not up during the battle, even without Palpatine pulling strings.
I cried
6:20 I cannot believe Grievous did 9/11.
Then again, considering the context film was made, this was propably meant be seen as equivalent in Star Wars Galaxy.
Do Ringo Vinda
Imagine committing a entire sixth of all your naval assets to one battle and still managing to lose it 💀
Depends on the size and capability of your navy, vs the size and capability of your enemy, plus your target and objective.
Wait a minute, the capital of the republic, it’s political and economic centre, was cut off for a week and NO ONE NOTICED?!
What was the song around the 7 minute mark?,
I’m guessing the new ships are Praetor, Imperator, Victory 2 and Mandator class Star Destroyers (just saying what I know from the Fall of the Republic mod lol)
Even Victory 1 was mostly unknown to universe
And then Dooku lost his head. Should've kept it cool. SMH.
vid can be summarized to "the one over coruscant, because rich republicans thought they were too smart to lose."
And that's why I'm glad the republic fell, because they were too high and mighty to realize they were no better than the citizens who allowed them to think so.
You mentionned that the battle lasted a week? I couldn't find comfirmation of that. This is canon?
In the end the galaxy was right this was the end of the Republik. If anakin and obi wan had learned palpatine was a sith before this point eveything coul have been prevented
I currently think the biggest battle that influences the Star Wars universe is Kathleen Kennedy vs the people who are fans of Star Wars
Random but if there were a Maori jedi, would the Clone Wars-era council let him perform his haka
2:35 Dawg... star wars is a massive IP.. so much content.. but you still decide to us a photo from halo?
it was to convey the scale of destruction & trauma, dozens of buildings randomly on fire doesn't have the same psychological impact as a warship firing its capital grade weaponry upon a population center.
Is this whole channel and comment section run by bots? What the fuck is going on.