The Most Brutal Period of the Clone Wars & It's Not Even Close - A Deep Look At the Outer-Rim Sieges
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- Thanks to the machinations of Darth Sidious, the Clone Wars were a stalemate for most of their duration. For years, the Republic and the CIS fought a back-and-forth war, each capturing and losing territory in turn. Until the Battle of Coruscant, most of the galaxy was under the impression that there was no end to the war in sight. But starting in late 20 BBY, the truth was that the Republic was winning. Slowly but surely, the Republic had begun to centralize and rally its industrial might, and by the start of 19 BBY, it was pushing Separatist forces back on every front, bringing the fight to the Rimward strongholds of the Confederacy. These grueling final months of the Clone Wars were known as the Outer Rim Sieges, and in this long-form video we’ll be telling the full story of this bloody chapter of the war.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:05 Republic Ascendancy
4:11 Patterns of Warfare
7:18 The Mygeeto Theater
11:14 The Serenno Theater
13:53 The Felucia Theater
21:27 The Siskeen Theater
24:25 The Praesitlyn Theater
27:30 The Yag’Dhul Theater
29:22 Dagger to the Heart
33:43 The Final Hours
37:59 Outro - Krátké a kreslené filmy
![The Mechanisms of the Separatist's Most Fearsome Droids: CIS Elite Droid Database [Vol. 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z8UewMLZ4xg/mqdefault.jpg)
This was when the Republic started using any tactics necessary to win the war. Even if it meant innocent people got hurt or worse. It foreshadowed how the Republic was one step closer to becoming an Empire.
At least the hardhanded methods necessarily spiced the glorious war in the history datapads.
"One step closer"? It feels like it already was the Galactic Empire by the Outer Rim sieges.
So true.
@jameslionetti4643
For me, I'd say it stopped being the republic the MOMENT the clone wars started
We can all agree, there was never gonna be a NEW chancellor after it begun
@@redadmiralofvalyria867yep he keep the throne for over 20 years after these battles but in the last years the it felt like the empire due to new victory and imperator ships being built the same year as order 66
On Felucia, the Seps dug their metal heels into the muck of that alien hellhole and dared the Republic to come in after them. So we did, only to be met with the month after month of flesh-eating diseases, shrieking nocturnal predators, and other sights that haunt me to this day....
Love the BF2 501st Journal
@@TheRealAquazTemuera Morrison brings his all to any role.
It's a play on the Battle of Feluja, in the Iraq war.
Nah dawg it is Space Vietnam
WAIT WHAT IS THAT THING!!!!!
If there ever was a hell in the Clone Wars, this would be it. The end of the war destroyed both sides and only the Empire remained to sweep aside the ashes to cement itself as the sole juggernaut of the galaxy. A great video that we all waited for, so thanks for this.
One thing I like about the lore of the Clone Wars that isnt talked about much is that the Clone Army fought more than just droids. A good portion of the CIS forces were loyalist militias that wreaked havoc through guerilla engagements on the Clone Battalions laying siege to their planets, rightfully so may I add. It kinda goes to show you that there isn't a clear line of Good Guy | Bad Guy in war. Especially in a universe as expansive as Star Wars.
And the reverse is true too: many droid invasions were fought back by republic aligned militia forces that were around since before the clone wars
I bet Palpatine could speed up or slow down the war as needed, to better align events with Anakin’s fall and to make sure everything was ready for Empire day. Leak some tactical information to one side… order some new big invasion, etc. and generally make sure all the pieces were in place so in the end all the political power and legal authority was firmly in his grasp and Anakin’s distrust and frustration with the Jedi was running high. You can imagine Sidious constantly adapting the details of his grand plan, to best suit his needs and goals throughout the war. It’s like in the Obi Wan undercover arc in the clone wars show, after setting up tests for Anakin, Palpatine can see he is not yet ready to turn to the dark side at that time, but by the time of the outer rim sieges, everything is falling into place.
Yes I know exactly what u mean with that and the clones winning against the cis it felt like the empire before order 66
All Palpatine really had to do to push Anakin to the dark side was constantly bring in Clovis
10:12 15:17 15:19 19:35 😅😅
That was the plan
Look at how many times Palpatine put Dooku against Anakin throughout the war, he tested Anakin so much He made the perfect apprentice.
At first I thought The Clone Wars was just a fun series about the fighting between the end of AotC and the beginning of RotS. Little did I know that the point of the show was to depict the Jedi losing their way in the conflict while the Chancellor gains more power over the Senate and the courts.
8:30 Mygeeto is really just the equivalent of trying to death war against another army in like Tibet or Switzerland, the epitome of "The snow is speaking droid!!!"
And the Galactic Marines did a helluva job pushing throughout the entire year long battle.
Still crazy how a Jedi had sacrificed herself, holding up a Venator from crashing down at high speads, so the Republic forces could speedrun across the battlefield in time. Now THAT'S heroism.
Everybody gansta until the snowmen speaks binary
only to be betrayed not long after lol@@thalmoragent9344
It makes you wonder just how hard it would be to actually conquer a world than it is in star wars.
Incredibly hard, assuming weapons and armor are roughly equalized. The invading party would most likely not know the terrain, or at least very well. Neither party would know the creative tactics each are capable of, yet. The invading party would have to fight through the planetary armed forces as well as any cells that would attack them they weren't aware of. Element of surprise is everything. Once that's broken, violence of action all the way. Keys to taking a position, assuming element of surprise is gone, is deception and misdirection.
@JW-do3mp
Well, all these planets likely have maps on their general terrain and continents. The surface can also be seen by the fleets above the atmospheres as well, so, surely we could see some improvements on our own abilities to map in the past.
But, on a Galactic scale, you'd see planets fall after taking key major cities on each continent. Not as grueling as it has been in our world in the past.
@@thalmoragent9344 plus you can call in orbital bombardments
Or make deals with unhappy elements on that planet
@JW-do3mp No matter what it would be long bloody and full of stop and go.
Outer Rim Sieges start and brutal fighting ensues
Palpatine: Oh no, anyway
Tbh, I'm unsure about the claim that the CIS was really losing during the Outer Rim Sieges. Grievous believed that a separatist victory was possible, even after Coruscant. And he was no fool. The CIS lost around 5% of their entire strength in the Battle of Coruscant. Devastating in absolute numbers, but acceptable in comparison.
Even the death of Count Dooku wasn't as fatal as it first appeared. The CIS truly died with General Grievous. If he had survived, the war would've continued. And considering that he would have undoubtedly unleashed all the reserves Sidious and Dooku kept behind the front lines for years, it's even possible that he could have destroyed the Empire within months. Especially if he arrived on Kashyyyk after Utapau and captured the planet and these secret hyperspace routes.
That would make an amazing fanfic.
@@ericahulstrom7354 Currenty working on a "What if".
Grievous surviving and becoming a lone warlord with a massive droid army is legitimately terrifying
I’d say it was until the deactivation of the droid army that things were truly over. That caused what ever defenses were left to be compromised.
Even with grevious and dooku dead they could have organized and pushed back without the interference of the separatists councils incompetence or sith conspirators
@@ericahulstrom7354I found one that’s kind of like this called a single decision takes two
Then you realize the Republic basically sent out a bunch of 9 years olds to do their fighting.
I swear they are the good guys just dont worry about it :) red lightsaber bad :)
9 year old slaves*
It was NOT Nute Gunray who deactivated the Droid Army. The Droid Army was disabled by Darth Vader, as revealed in one scene in Revenge of the Sith, AFTER he killed Nute Gunray.
The Senate’s death was an even MORE brutal period.
Of course the Outer Rim Sieges were always going to be a struggle to get rid off of the Confederacy strongholds.
This video is wrong because Star Wars: Rebels says that the Separatist military vastly outnumbered the Republic military at the end of the Clone war. That the CIS only lost because of the Droid shut down command.
It also doesn't make sense the Republic had a bigger industry because droids can help build ships and other weapons 24/7. Droid factories operate 24/7. Droids don't need food, sleep, or rest. Just electrical power. So of course the Separatists had better industrial might than the Republic.
Imagine a rouge CIS General of near or Thrawn lvl of effectiveness taking command of the droid army/navy with no overarching hindrances .
Sev'rance Tann and Kalani were the closest to that
@@Seroccorip sevrance😢
Brutal, but like the American Civil War's "March to the Sea", it has the benefit of being the beginning of the end. That I'm eternally grateful.
Pity TCW 2008 somehow made the sieges happen a bit too early, if not a bit too relegated offscreen. Looking at you, Felucia episodes, and the lack of Mygeeto and Saleucami action.
That was the inception of ( total war )
@@shanenolan5625 In a sidenote, strange how the strategy game series of the same name hasn't reached this point in history yet.
@michaelandreipalon359 Yes, now that you mention it ( strange)
Much like Shermans march to the sea, and just general Union strategy at the time, total annihilation tactics leave the survivors extremely destitute for generations to come. Considering how poor and lawless the Outer Rim became after the war and the rise of the Empire, it did exactly that.
@@mrbigglezworth42 Their fault for siding in the wrong side of history, so no biggie.
PT: We’re just Prequels fan, the fandom hates us.
Fans of both OT & PT: Not to me
The interesting thing about how this is framed in the story is that it depicts vast swathes of space and their campaigns as sieges.
Shows a sense of scale and subtle dread at the massive amount of war occurring at this time
I really like the snippets from the Novelisation. The bit where it mentions Order 66 is really well executed IMO.
Ya know... if Star Wars Battlefront 3 ever becomes a thing, we need a gamemode dedicated to the Outer-Rim Sieges.
Yes, a whole game mode. We've had Galactic Assault, Supremacy, all that, but there should be like, a section dedicated to bringing out maps of planets just used for the purpose of granting an authentic feel for the hellish situations in the Outer-Rim Sieges.
Ahem, galactic conquest from OG Star Wars Battlefront 1&2 would like a word.
Especially the version from Battlefront 2
They were so hard to dislodge that the Empire still had trouble with them years after. Look at the episode in bad batch, the droids shoot down the transport Cody is on and slaughter half their squad, only reason the empire won was because of lucky shots on the commando droids and the tactical droid.
Could one defeat Sidious with Squirrel Tactics and Pocket Sand?
Deploy pocket sand in sneak attack, then shasha with the force.
@@cjclark1208 and if that fails, use the Swartz
@@AncestorEmpireGamingI'll get the cereal boxes.
@@Techsupport243 lol
Rip dale
YES! YES! YES! A video going into full detail about the Outer Rim Sieges! I've been hoping for this for a long time and it was well worth the wait! :)
Also, pretty good timing, since I was just working on my fanfic for the Battle of Cato Neimoidia that I've been meaning to get around to for like a year now early today, and now we have a great video about the Outer Rim Sieges as a whole.
Hope to read it sometime
@@Helljumper556 Aww thanks.
But it will be quite a while since I just started writing it. I haven't even gotten to the ground battle itself yet because Republic forces are still fighting their way to the surface, luckily, they've got ace Clone Pilots like Hawk and Odd-Ball to clear a path for the Gunships.
@@zexalbrony4799 gotcha. I'm assuming Kenobi and the 7th Fleet are attacking the planet? Which includes the 501st Legion, 7 Sky Corps and 212th Attack Battalion?
@@Helljumper556 You would be correct. Alongside some other Clones being led by Kit Fisto and two other unknown Jedi(who all we know about them from the actual battle is that they died) so I'll have to make OCs for them, while Yularen and Dodoona lead the aerial battle.
This video is wrong because Star Wars: Rebels says that the Separatist military vastly outnumbered the Republic military at the end of the Clone war. That the CIS only lost because of the Droid shut down command.
It also doesn't make sense the Republic had a bigger industry because droids can help build ships and other weapons 24/7. Droid factories operate 24/7. Droids don't need food, sleep, or rest. Just electrical power. So of course the Separatists had better industrial might than the Republic.
I would like a video on the battle of Boomis Koori IV. I find it funny that the arrogant General of the Seperatist army spent all of his resources on defenses for his base expecting to fight a huge clone army only for him and his army to be defeated by only TWO JEDI.
The world building from the prequels is literally insane!
Makes one wonder what would've happened if Grievous tried to kill Palpatine instead of capturing...
It would have sent shockwaves throughout the galaxy as now the key lynch pin holding the war as it is would be gone.
For starters the republic is gonna be rudderless for months. Might give the CIS time to regroup.
From there it’s a question of what Dooku will do.
Try and fix the confederacy to function as his idea of a better republic or attempt to continue the plan
It's easy to win a war when the same person is running both sides.
The true definition of hell for the clones.
God I love Sidious he was truly brilliant and skillful to bring forth the fall of the Jedi and republic
Brilliant analysis of a nebulous part of the Star Wars lore.
Much appreciated guys, and much enjoyed.
A very compelling in-depth and terrifically detailed breakdown of the last major phase of the clone wars; the blood bath that was the outer rim sieges. As well as the last part of the massive and fatale trap that was the revenge of the sith, that once sprung lead to the destruction of the republic, Jedi and Separatists and formation of the empire.
I LOVE THIS POINT IN THE CLONE WARS!!
I love when you use the Star Wars Legion art. I play alot so it makes me happy to see those epic illustrations
You said Mygeeto and I got launched back in time to battlefront two and my hundreds of hours spent on it. Loved that game
Dude your longer videos are amazing! I love falling asleep to your hr+ vids! Please please please keep it up man. ❤
What a banger of a video, always had been curious about the Outer Rim Sieges 💛
Your maps for this episode are so... artistically done.
I want a video game of a clone squad on Mygeeto, a squad that has been there the entire two years that the battle happened. From the beginning attack to when Order 66 was called.
Tremendous video, and never change your background music
"It's been said that the 501st got the best of the war. We also got the worst. On Felucia, the Seps dug their metal heels into the muck of that alien hellhole and dared the Republic to come in after them. So we did, only to be met with the month after month of flesh-eating diseases, shrieking nocturnal predators, and other sights that haunt me to this day. Cut off and for all we knew abandoned by our superiors, our only hope was Aayla Secura, our Jedi commander. Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity, or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much. When the 501st was finally rotated out of Felucia, Aayla Secura made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soldiers she had ever seen. It's a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bear to look her in the eye."
The end of the Clones Wars was crazy
I was in the royal Australian army captain and I love this video of Star Wars keep it up
Thanks Great video, please do one explaining why Ahsoka should have died (unless your opinion has changed of course given recent events in the Ahsoka series)
Ayyy thank you man, the team and I will consider this idea:)
I love these kind of videos that dive into history
This always makes me wonder how large the clone army was. I always read numbers around 3 million, which seems to be far to small. For scale: the axis forces invaded the UDSSR with about 6 million soldiers
Having a 3 million number for the clones makes a little more sense in a harder sci-fi universe where entire planets only have a few cities or places of interest to fight over. As it stands, 3 million is literally nothing when you have Ecumenopolis planets everywhere
is it just me or did anyone else notice the pic at 22:18 is from halo lmao. the ships are from that one mission at the end of H4 and theres legit a pelecan in the back
Phenomenal content bro, amazingly in depth for as concise as you presented the material on the clone wars
Love that it’s on the ‘true’ canon, legacy lol
Cartography may not be your next calling in life my Buddy but your narrative skills, more than make up for it! :)
Thanks much for another excellent Vid!
man one day i hope we get a live action clone wars tv show about this inspired by Band of Brothers/The Pacific.
the galactic rim seiges needed to happen so i could see the galactic marines in ep3
without doubt the coolest looking clones. end of story
20:35 😂 Jedi homeboy Lookin TOO Excited with HIS Erect Lightsaber.
😂😂😂
Awesome visuals good video ! 🎉🎉🎉
So it's kinda like WWII when German blitzkrieg overran the Allies only for there to be a massive battle of attrition on multiple fronts that ended with the fronts collapsing and the Allies winning.
Damn these are still so good!!!!!
I would give both my kidneys for gritty, 40k style novels on the outer rim siege
Where is the melee fight against the B2s depicted? I remember Bacara buffing melee damage in the minis game- this must be where that comes from!
Traps within traps every time in the clone wars
Im thinking about making a fan novel that takes place through a clones perspective (maybe a jedi’s) were the fight is towards the end of the war and shows how brutal it was. Thanks for this video, the creative gears are turning.
The events of Episode 3 being over a week makes no sense and should have been 6 months.
The outer rim siege were already going for several months by the beginning of episode 3.
@@AAhmou That doesn't make the events of Episode 3 making absolutely no sense as a week long series of events any more logical. Padme went through half a pregnancy in a week.
Feels more like there’s a vague time spine of weeks to months rather one week For revenge of the sith.
2:12 no wonder the Republic won the Outer Rim Sieges. One of their mech worlds was producing SDF Macrosses!
Yeah i remember fighting tooth and nail against the super battle-droids with my fists. Fuckers didn't know what hit them and never did Ki Adi Mundi
21:31 That picture is freaking awesome
Question:
What time period had the most brutal wartime conflicts?
I'd suggest that's a rather difficult question to answer Buddy, since brutality in any war is a given. If you mean most despicable means of conquest, the Rakata were quite good at that. If you mean most lives lost per battles accumulated, The Yuhzan Vong Wars would probably lead. if you mean long slogs without visible means of an end for extended periods per battle, the Clone Wars no doubt head the chart. So, you'd need to further embellish what ya mean. Old creamy Sheevs may have been one of the most calculating and forward thinking of the Sith but some of his predecessor's activities, gave new meaning to the word "despicable" when it came to specific battles.
If the Searpatists won at Kashyyyk, how will this impacted the Clones Wars? I mean, the Separatist Council will no longer have the reason to surrender now that they can regrouped at Kashyyyk and scatter once again all over the Republic space and launch raids there and there, making the war lasted longer. But aside from that, will this hammered down Palpatine's declaration of the Empire? And will there be anything else that can be added here as impacts of this Separatists' victory?
It would help in the push back agaisnt the republic advance but won’t mean much without continued success elsewhere
@@theliato3809 I know that. But they don't needed to. They just needed to do some random raiding while also reinforce the important battles such as the one at Mygeeto, Felucia and Saleucami in order to tire the Republic out. This will resulted in Palpatine's hands to be forced and sue for peace with the Separatists. Will this worked? I don't know. But if it did, then what Palpatine needed to do is to secretly arrange the assassination of the members of the Separatist Council later one by one while also secretly employing pirate gangs and even the Hutts to harass these independet systems to force them to either rejoin the Republic or being left at the mercy of the criminals.
@@lerneanlion That last part is certainly soemthing they could do but its still up in the air if that battle would make a difference by itself
@@theliato3809 By securing Mygeeto, they will have enough money to fund the war efforts while controlling Saleucami will given the Separatists the means to transport goods and docks for warships. As for Felucia, I don't know what it can offered aside from being the Commerce Guild's stronghold. But it is most likely important, right?
@@lerneanlionFelicia is more like a stronghold point for pressing further in.
The whole is the war effort for the sepratists really fell apart on mustafar where anakin just shut down the whole droid army/navy. Without that the CIS was still going strong in spite of their issues but once it happened the Empire could then just barrel through entire defensive positions easily and threaten worlds into submission. Look how quick it took them to reach Raxus secundus for instance.
What I wonder was how an why all them Yagdul fleets an any CIS forces, other then Sideous's doing. Never learned of all the secret counter attack forces including multiple fleets just waiting for them with orders to launch an all out galaxy wide counter assault an crush them... It basically was going "yeah CIS got played..." So much for the propaganda the Republic was losing... Losing forces an their factions lost the ability to pull off such counter attacks an set those sorta traps
35:41 That Jedi at the center of the artwork looks eerily familiar to Baylan Skoll, albeit in a younger version
Please give Ahsoka a long form video of her own. Arguably the best character in the Clone Wars and super fascinating throughout her entire story arc
Would love to hear more about the non Clone Republic legions versus non Droid Seperatist Armies fighting it out.
Amazing
I’m sorry to say this, but I feel like the calm meditative track used in the background of the first three chapters is kinda out of place for this type of video 😅. Still, great content as always!
I have an idea for a Star wars battlefront entry and the outer rim series is known in the GAR as: Operation Rancor
I think the Felucia theatre was intended to get rid of as many clones as possible before the end of the war
Perfectly fine to understand but kinda funny to name parts of a galactic map south and west :D
0:42 Mace looking at palpatine like he wanna kick over his wheelchair
What system of dating was used in the star wars galaxy before the battle of Yavin? I’m assuming it would be based on the foundation of the republic but I haven’t seen anything about it.
Out of universe, everyone uses Yavin.
In universe it would be the rusaan reformation for the peoples of galactic civilization after that event
I've been wondering for awhile now, as someone fairly new to The Clone Wars period (read: access to disney+): Who on the CIS side knew Palpatine was Sidious? Anyone? Dooko? Grievous? And is the answer different in Canon vs. Legends?
It’s so crazy how many parallels the clone wars draw to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, totally orchestrated from the absolute top to do nothing other than instill terror and fear, to THEN, only after the populace was convinced, was able to completely turn the tide of the entire republic. Not much different than the Patriot Act. Thanks for your videos.
How the hell are your videos so detailed bro? Your attention to detail and research are insane. Also where do you get all the information from and who wrote the material cause ain’t no way George Lucas made all this material on his own
Wookieepedia
I want films about this war, everyone loves it
New drinking game, take a shot every time he says rim. I would be dead in the fist 5 mins!
Where is Baldamnic covered? I know the IGBC buys it in Darth Plagueis...
The shut down command went to Vader(Anakin) not Gun ray
Why is the corruscant guard holding the catalyst kid from mass effect at 31:55? 😂
20:30 why you do bro like that😭
What if Nute Gunray ignored Sidious and did not issue the shutdown command of the Droid Army? What if Seperatist leaders relocated from Mustafar after learning of General Grevious' death? What if the CIS dragged on the war without Sith interference?
The Empire fought Separatist holdouts, some with ease, others not so much; but could a unified droid army have stood a chance against the Empire? The Republic was only winning because of Sith interference; yes, republic industrial efforts got their shit together and turned the tide, but weren't Separatist forces still held back by Sidious?
I remember Geisor Delso attempting to restart the Droid Armies on Mustafar. It was such a threat that the 501st was sent to deal with it.
Can you do Star wars vs Warhammer 40k specifically ( the republic/CIS vs the Imperium and maybe other faction)
there is no point, WH40K would stomp them in less then 2 hours.
@@poopypigeon536not even two hours i give both factions 30 minutes maybe less before even just the imperium of man clapping both sides just a full legion of adeptus astartes and the conflict is over then and there
They became conquerers more than liberators
2:02 that is basically how I play eaw
That's how I would stare at my lightsaber 20:26
scattered swaths of seperatist space
What front was anaxes and umbara apart of?
1:45 oh? Really? The army consisting solely of… mechanical automatons… was easier to… organize for war… than armies made of people…?
2:18 this is macross/robotech fanart.
If the Sith weren't involved and both factions actually fought to WIN that would be way worse than what the clone war's already brought us.
I just wish you would say "strategic" instead of "tactical". That word does not mean what you think it means.
Like it matters? Tactics are just short term strategies. Depending on how far you zoom out the differences are negligible at best
@@ROCKhardRICHARD69 yes. proper language matters.
The axis of evil ( speech)
This is Canon for me!
If I were Grievous, I would've jumped into hyperspace the moment Palpatine got captured and was aboard the Invisible Hand.
The final months of the pacific theater ww2 of the clone wars
I love your videos and i am a die hard Separatist supporter.