The Species that Mathematically Predicted Order 66 & Promptly Dipped From the Republic
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- "Greetings. In the equation A = (π/1012 × 16,072)(R×R)(E∞)², can you tell me what the value of A is?"
―A Givin
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:43 Spooky Spooky Skeletons
3:46 The Givin (Mathematical) Tree
7:48 Givin the Galaxy Turmoil
11:08 Outro - Krátké a kreslené filmy
For those who don't know, this species actually created the secret hyperspace lane that went straight to Coruscant during the Clone Wars. They even helped the separatists create other hyperspace lanes that they could use
It's not canon so who cares
@Janushshf you must be fun at parties...
@@TheFirstPotato says star wars stan💀
@@olafjansowidz dude, you're the one who's focused on whether something is canon or not...
@@TheFirstPotato cope 💀
"Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper, Smooth Skin?"
I can’t believe that I read that in a fallout 3 ghoul voice.
@@cjhott7237lmao same!! 😂
@@cjhott7237 couldn't think of anything but Haversam lmfao
I read it in Dean Domino’s voice
“Aren’t you a little too Un-American to be Captain of the Enterprise, Pink Skin?”
- A resurrected Shran to Picard circa 2360
Funny how the smartest aliens in the galaxy saw through math that Clone Wars was gonna happen & stepped away from the Senate but still got involved with the Separatists
But can they see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch.
@@darthparallax5207 😂🤣😂
@@darthparallax5207 Palpatine with a jumbo bowl of Cinnamon Toast Crunch cackling hysterically between bites over the Givin and their math.
Because the separatists were the good guys, the trade ship they had wasn’t illegal!
they didn't, only few factions of their world joined, most didn't participate in any war.
... if the Givin could only survive a day in vacuum, they'd still need pressurization and life support on their vessels, unless they only used them for very short trips.
However they wouldn't need to pressurize the entire vessel. Why waste energy and resources and pressurize passage ways?
@@S_Evenwar That would just always be the case with efficiency minded species
@@tzimiscelord8483 Not necessarily. A Givin ship could probably get by with just pressurizing and adding life support to the command deck and living quarters. Hallways they could keep as a vacuum since they'd only be using them to walk through quickly with having airlocks at each end. Based on how they were described in the video, they might also not need to worry about depressurizing the airlock as they wouldn't die from the pressure change when they go into the hallway (though this is conjecture of course). Heck they might even decide to just use magnetic fields like are used in hangars to just walk through with airlocks just being there in the case the shields fail.
Other efficiency minded species that can't survive in a vacuum would likely still choose to keep these hallways pressurized because waiting for an airlock to cycle through so they can enter/exit a hallway would slow them down drastically. They'd likely rather have their ships be a little bit less efficient energy wise so they could be more efficient at their own tasks.
The way I remember it, Givin ships do have life support but it isn't present everywhere, leaving parts of their ship un-pressurized. More importantly, Givin ships were infamous for being built to easily vent their internal atmosphere as an anti-boarding procedure.
@@RobertHinchey You have it both ways, Just add a toggle in the cockpit that turns efficiency mode on and off. If your just wasting time during a hyperspace jump then there is no reason to compromise on efficiency, and having a problem That requires more immediate attention, you could remove the wait time to sacrifice efficiency for speed on the flip of the switch
The Givins did some math, went, “oh shit, this is going to end bad.” and dipped.
I remember hearing you guys mention this species in a older video. Makes me proud to be a long time fan of the series and of your channel.
We appreciate you!
It's my new favorite species.
Givins bullying other species : "imagine not being able to survive in a vacuum, couldn't be me!"
In the old West End Games Star Wars TTRPG, Given was one of the races in the extended books, and I enjoyed playing one of these folk who was a ship pilot/mechanic. He considered himself a dunce among his people, and thus took to the stars where he would not be in the way or shame his family. While not a fighter per se, he did successfully figure the force needed to bounce a grenade to where he wanted it several times. His party was impressed, which he thought odd as such basic formulas were the center of most games played by Given Toddlers. Playing up the alien mindset, I both amused and frustrated the other characters in the party (fortunately, the players tended more towards amused!). A fond memory for me.
God damn that sounds like fun. Wish i could've played those games but without nerd friends it's impossible lol
The Givin and the Bith might be vibin' well together... at least on the intellectual level.
They're called Givins cuz they be Givin math problems when you meet them
Let them help find tax exceptions and loopholes! 😄
Hi. Solve this simple problem “shows a formula to solve world hunger
I can see why they left the Republic in such a hurry, seems they felt like they were gonna have a bad time.
(cue megalovania)
Gotta respect them for always making the answer three. As a stats man, I greatly appreciate a simple whole number.
This world sounds absolutely awful, the water and atmosphere shifting so much would be cataclysmic. It’d scrape away the surface, sling debris everywhere in constant tsunamis and rending storms, the crust would heat and tear. What an awful place to live.
Who knew their was a species you couldnt bankrupt, couldnt invade, ran by numbers, and could beat a force user in blaster reflection without the force.
Aw, look at ShyGuy, all grown up
"Spooky, scary *Givins* and shivers down your spine..."
Givin the mathematical greeting: A = (pi/1012 * 16072) * (RxR) * (E^infinity)^2
A is a vector perpendicular to R (Cross product) and e^infinity is simply infinity. Thus, A is a vector perpendicular to R with magnitude infinity.
"Greetings. What is the solution to the one-dimensional bounded (finite) integral int(ln(cos((x^2)/tan(x))*(3/(x-1)), evaluated from negative one to positive three? Have a good day." -- A Givin, probably
That would be a rude greeting because it is missing closing brackets.
is it 3?
How have I never heard of this species. As a mathematician, I love these people.
they were out of the equation. most people don't ever hear about them bc they have no need to. They are super neat though. I like em. Them, the Verpine, and the Chiss are my favorite of the bipedal bi (armal)? how do you say with just two arms? ones who have human like bodies. Smart, able to survive. generally cool looking and lived in a spot that was so far out of the way, you'd need to have you're yt2400 break down after missing a hyperspace jump by 12 parsecs and since you stayed in way to long, you ended up in some far reach of wherever with these skeletor looking dudes giving you complex math when they first meet you. Since you're lost, you're probly drunk when they get you too, so at least you are likely to guess 3.
I had an action figure of the one from the Cantina as a kid, he was one of my favorites. Elis Helrot was his name
I love star wars species so much the givins are one of my favorite species in star wars so cool their skeleton people in star wars
The Separatists, "Wait... we could have just seceded without a war?!"
Oh God, just imagine the equations that are forming inside that Givin Sith Scientist's mind from Star Wars Legacy as he's committing genocide against the Mon Calamari.
They look like Ghostface from the Scream movies.
I wonder when their lore was created? The Givins share a lot of similarities with the Trisolarans from the Three Body Problem novels. They both have 3 moons that routinely wreck the planet with insane tidal forces.
The trisolarans had 3 suns, but yes very similar.
Pretty sure my high school math teacher is a Givin.
I love weird alien civilizations like this. I’ve made a really cool alien civilization for my own project. They live in the deep core of the Milky Way, and they obsess with discovery and the cataloging of all life. They are slug-like and communicate using their tentacle-like reproductive organs, as they emit various pheromones that they can use to communicate with each other. Interestingly enough, they consider their “foot” (the thing snails/slugs use to get around) as inappropriate to show, and only shown to others during… intimate… encounters. Oh and they also hail from the very bottom of an ice moon’s subterranean ocean, and are the oldest surviving civilization in the Milky Way.
Not a bad concept, sounds a bit horny tho
Show feet. This is not a request.
I hope you didn't write them to be sympathetic... Non-bipedals are really tricky to do that with.
@@secretbaguette it can be done if they have a translator device
@@spaceengineeringempire4086 It's not so simple as being able to have them speak and prove they aren't ravening monsters, the problem is expression. How do they emote? Making sure human or humanoid characters express emotion properly is easy. Even if you've fucked up their faces off of the human template they've still got body language to tie them to humans and if their faces are similar enough you're golden, you know how to make your characters emote and everyone knows what the emotions mean because everyone is human by definition. But what happens if you don't have that human emotional template? You as a writer need to define for yourself how these creatures emote purely for your own purposes but then you need to explain each new motion these creatures make both to the characters coming into contact with them and the audience. Every story needs world building but you're only inviting complexity on yourself when you involve a huge amount of species building as well. Not to mention, you mention having a 'translator' like it's a simple thing to implement in a story of first contact. You don't have technology which can intersect across a language divide and you certainly don't have common written lettering or spoken language commonality unless there's some real deep chicanery going on within your plot. Of course you could have the Aliens understand you because they've been observing you without your knowledge but that changes the whole story dynamic doesn't it? This species might not be very moral, spying on people like that, or they might be afraid, and afraid people or things take radical action, changing your plot further. What I mean to say is, you can't write Sci-fi without logic, you've got to do a lot of it, erego the less unnecessary logiking and work you create for yourself the better off you'll be.
Actually math can predict the future to some extent. That's the core of how Laplace's daemon works. So it's scientifically accurate that they used math to guarantee their survival, considering their situation was harsh to begin with.
Their faces remind me of some characters in the N64 game titled Mischief Makers... So they look comical to me.
It's the basis of The Foundation.
@@matthewlaflamme9019Which is not a real thing. Laplace demon is a thought experiment on determinism
So Asmimov’s psychohistory is real!
@@degenerate_mercenary9898 "To some extent". Remember that part.
@@TheTransitmtli find it funny how different this theory, vs the other observer theory connected to chaos theory where everything is random however you can use your perception to alter the future to your liking instead of predicting the preset future
"This badboy can fit ALL the Math!"
The givins sound absolutely fascinating and I think the whole concept of greeting math is fuckin cool. Imagine walking up to one of these guys and how good it'd feel to solve one of the equations and have them teach you cool shit about math
Question: How did the Sith outsmarted the Givins so easily during the Clones Wars?
Well they may be really smart, but they are not all-knowing. They can't possibly predict mathematically every outcome and change that could suddenly show up (especially since few people knew or cared about the Sith business).
There were hidden variables which made their math wrong?
The Force isn't really something that you can measure and predict with mathematics and even those who had the power of the Force such as the Jedi were totally outsmarted by the Sith.
@@mayeuldelaunay4058 sure you can predict the amount of force users in the republic by estimating general population and the amount of Jedi converts and sector acceptance of the Jedi.
But it’s impossible to predict what they will do.
You can predict that Anakin is gonna be pissed off at Nute Gunray when he grows up and that's not gonna be the right side to be on though. 22BBY means they knew about Anakin and picked the side with the Sith.
They're just dumb.
The writing is inconsistent to try to make smart look scary and evil and it fails.
They want the Givins to look like cold stereotype aliens of old pulp fiction and it doesn't work because anyone with Holonet would have put money on Anakin to save the Republic.
The fun ironic thing is the exit polls and statitistics would Still be wrong but they'd at least figure out the Separatists had 0% chance of winning and Nute Gunray had more to fear from Darth Sidious than he did from the Senate.
The Givins would have known Nute Gunray was an idiot. They don't make sense lol.
the givins really said to the republic: "according to my calculations.... you're done."
Yes, although I believe the actual phrase they used was “ according to the values provided we have come to a simple conclusion, the center cannot hold, therefore, we will graciously leave in order to shed weight from the center to allow it to continue”
In the wise words of Homer Simpson "NERD"
2:12 That's cute they found it weird to look at fleshy skin, kind of like humans seeing a creature with organs on the outside I imagine 😂
Much like the VUX in Star Control, who ask the player not to nod his head, as "We VUX do not share this range of motion, so to us, it appears as though your neck is broken."
Thank you for still making REAL Star Wars content. Disney Star Wars will always be a separate thing
What is this Disney Star Wars you speak of? There's no such thing as Disney Star Wars.
@@jamesleduke873 I am not sure if you mean that in defense of them or agreeance of me but I will admit, SOME Disney Star Wars things are fantastic, Rogue One being the best. I think the Mandalorian is serviceable / alright with great moments, but I don't think it's as great as most, and Season 7 of The Clone Wars is not nearly as good as it would've been under Lucas, sadly. He even had an episode planned where a Yuuzhan Vong warrior would've appeared during The Clone Wars. One day maybe we'll get that
Alternate reality is Disney. 🐁🖱🐭
its a fresh one, boys
Meanwhile in Starfield you only encounter humans and 1 space creature per planet 😂 Thanks for still doing Legends content, the True Star Wars content
"MATHEMATICAL" - finn the human
They flub the greeting math and have to run away from an angry Givin. "This was a mistake!" "Huge!"
Love and respect the grind, stay at it 💪♥️
Makes me think of the Foundation series. Hari Seldon the psychostatistician (can't remember the exact name of what the science is called, it's been quite long since I've read the books) using statistics to calculate galactic trajectories and the course of history.
I think it was called psychohistory.
Fitting, given Trantor is just Coruscant, or rather vice versa.
The way givins walking is described is the same way Gibbon apes walk, the names also sound similar
Love this and I was always a fan of the wavecrest design.
How about the tiny alien that rode inside an R2 unit’s head in Clone Wars.
Men 8n Balck wanted their tiny aliens back after leasing to Star Wars! 🌟😄
lord knows how life evolved on that hellhole
On their planet, "Bonehead" is considered a slur.
5:08 That's a servant. Party Trick😊
Most maths takes time
this would have been a great Halloween episode
A clone wars Halloween episode
Nah a Halloween episode for this channel @@BWC-Chad
A Givin looking at a human would be like a human looking at another human without skin, so i understand the discomfort
Lol the givins straight up were like, nah we gonna issac asimov this and yeet.
I mean if every time I greeted one of these people they would ask me a math question, after a while I'd assume they were being just as rude I was for not asking one to them lol
You left out the fact that, because of their penchant for math. The Givin are the best slicers in the galaxy.
I wish i can hire these people to do my math homework lol
Prostitution is illegal
Love these guys
Since math isn't my strong suit, I would have a hard time interacting with a Givin, let alone simply greeting them.
This video was so cool, and I've never heard of this lore before
A Sith Lord of the species would look super cool
That was a thing. Vul Isen was a Givin Sith Lord in Darth Krayt's One Sith. He developed bioweapons and committed genocide against the Mon Calamari.
Haha calamari aliens. Fish food! 🐟
Whoever came up with this species must have been the most unpopular kid at school! LOL
Definitely the face of someone who can't solve a math problem and would be obsessed with math.
absolutely obsessed with space meth I MEAN space math
Every time someone mathematically calculates a future event in fiction I just try to imagine what the hell kind of equation you do to get that as an answer
Calculating the cost of the Clone Army compared to the Republic's funding, then calculating the likelihood this some bullshit
"According to my calculations, shit's about to go down. Peace out, suckers."
I'd have to 💀myself if I were born in that world🤣
I think I would just give random numbers in the for of Pythagoras's right triangle. I.e. a^2+b^2=c^2 I'm sure they'd find it cute and regardless of the numbers find the solution and it's square root in no time.
You know those really smart people, either in shows or real life, who are constantly speaking and saying overly complicated things, that sometimes makes you feel stupid, well we have an entire planet full of those people, enjoy. LOL.
Between poking fun at it endlessly and repeating it so much it no longer sounds like words, really should have just moved on
Or hell even just looked up a bloody thesaurus to find literally any other words
Suggestion for this video series: The Nelvaanians from the 2003 Clone Wars series (who are most likely the unluckiest species in Star Wars).
Wait hold on, in the clone wars why didn’t the cis make there droid ships not have oxygen, they can’t be boarded by anyone
Cover the frog lady species from mandalorian.
1:28
What a planet!
The Sheldon's of Star Wars
the value of A is 69
Star wars lore lezzgooooooo
I'd like to see you cover the verpine if you haven't already
you know twileks are more commonly used as slaves then wookies 0:16
Considering the fact that I'm a biology student, these guys would drive me nuts 😂😂😂
That question in the description: 3 !!!
This species gives me hard Outer Wilds vibes
predicts a war and joins the losing side, like a boss
Their home planet does have a number of similarities to trisolaris, but not to the degree of Tatooine to arrakis similarities. I like how different sci-fi stories borrow ideas like this
I remember these guys from Knight Errant
Giving: What up? y = √ x2 + 6
me: yes
These dudes look like how feel waking up from a good dream back into this world...
Cowards passed up the chance to show a wookie when they said the sexy ones XD woulda been hilarious
Me reads the title and laughs
The jedi order leaves the chat
my guy looking like a fuckin minecraft creeper
A=(π/1012⋅16,72)
3?
0:12 some people group those last two together
wow scream mask species is an absolute unit!!!!!
Can you make a video on Jedi paladins or the daggee Jedi ?
Given that I have dyscalculia, I doubt we'd get along all too well.
This was sweet 🎂
Read somewhere that the Givin helped against the Y Vong because they calculated they were untrustworthy. Can't find that source though...
i think the givins would have loved foundation by isaac asimov
It just seems like there is a lot about the Givens that doesn't add up (pun intended).
Played a Giving Engineer in a Star Wars Table top RPG.... Useless in a fight, but the ship never broke down....
Hands down the Givin were quite unusual.
Can they calculate my foot in their cloaca?
Yes. Small and unpleasing
In other words an autistic savant with a mathematics talent would be the perfect ambassador to Gavin.
Immense knowledge of probability, difficult to read expressions, and above average durability? They’d make good gamblers I bet
Math is my worst subject. I'd hate to think what a Givin's opinion of me would be.
spooky scary ske... MATH