Fix a New Gas Can in 5 Minutes - Adding a Vent
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- čas přidán 23. 10. 2015
- It isn't a secret: The new style gas cans are terrible fragile contraptions that have caused many a spills and are responsible for numerous new curse words being created to help describe them. But there is hope. This is my solution to this entirely unnecessary problem.
If you're wondering who is responsible for all of the gasoline spills and time spent waiting you have endured at the hands of these containers, you have the Children's Gasoline Burn Prevention Act to thank for this. I seriously doubt these have prevented any such tragedies (and most likely have caused some), but that's up to your legislators to decide. Trust them. They know what's best for you.
I cannot guarantee against unauthorized modifications of this information or improper use of this information. I assume no liability for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. Be sure to read and follow all safety instructions for any equipment seen or implied in this video, and use safe practices when working with potentially dangerous equipment. No information contained in this video shall create any express or implied warranty or guarantee. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from improper use of these tools, equipment, or the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of the user. - Jak na to + styl
Please come back......you are sadly missed
Is he still alive?
by the way I love watching all your Electrical & solar power views, they're just great. Keep up the good work.
So far so good. I’ve filled it twice and it’s great getting 13 gallons at one shot czcams.com/users/postUgkx-vlHjazTv30m_UAq9Ht-fuPo2jBx7tTx . It pumps out by using gravity so the bottom of the tank needs to be above the vessel you're filling. Not a drop spilled filling the generator three times. Let’s see where we’re at after 20 fills.he slightly larger Panfish floats czcams.com/users/postUgkx_rJB7cli5f1ofPVGgn80S7Yj4vqwq0gU recommend they work just fine. The smaller size lets me carry more in my tackle box, and the 3 color choices are nice for different lighting conditions, backgrounds, etc. They aren't the most durable things in the world. But, as cheap as they are, it's not heartbreaking to lose one or have to replace a worn one. The price on these fluctuates wildly, from about $9 to almost $16. So, time your buy accordingly.
I used a vent out of the EZ Pour brand kit, the type of vent you just push in a drilled hole. So far so good.
I have tried those. They always leak and are useless. Perhaps you have had a different experience.
Come on knurlgnar, can we get some new vids? Your videos are educational and fascinating.
Yeah, come on! (2 years later). I love the history and informational bits you toss in a seemingly boring topic.
He is probably dead
@@managersamuel Someone is banging his wife. She got board. Come on Knurlgnar do one more video please.
@@timcat1004 Sorry, I was too busy banging my wife to reply promptly. I may return at some point in time when I decide to.
@@knurlgnar24 Lmao I find this channel again after 4 years and encounter the most unexpected response.
Hi
knurlgnar24
! All your fans hope to see a new video from you soon. We all miss you... Hope everything is well
When I saw the 1 next to your channel I was so happy thanks.
Thanks for that info. I was just about to try the tire valve option glad to try the petcock option. . Even with the lockwasher I'm finding that the valve wants to back out of the plastic can. There is a Locktite epoxy for plastic product that I am going to try to see if the brass fitting can be tied to the plastic can little better.
Very good,was looking for a solution to these dumb fuel cans,this looks like it,thanks for posting.
where are you mate? you cant stop uploading videos, I hope you ok, don't give up, your channel was doing ok, many people are asking for your come back including me, do it please , all the best
I have noticed that the new gas can shown in your video puts out a burst of gasoline when you first open them on a hot day. I like this vent idea. Good move. Thanks for sharing this info. :)
thanks for the video I enjoy your vids and sense of humor!
We miss you Knurlgnar... something wrong with? :(
I like your vent solution, might have to try that. I had to fill up a truck quickly to evacuate a fire zone this summer. We hadn't installed a vent, and the seals in the nozzle were leaking (as they had from day one). I ended up breaking the nozzle off and just pouring it in there with a funnel... and I probably slopped less gas on myself and down the fender doing that than had dribbled out of that horrible little spout. There's gotta be a better solution.
knurlgnar24 You've been gone so long! Any thoughts as to when you'll post again? You still have a well deserved audience waiting for you. Even just a quick 1 minute update would be nice. I hope all is well with you and yours, and will continue to check your channel going forward. Best wishes!
Hi, just got onto your channel. Like it very much. One way, at least for the foreseeable future, to get good old style gas cans, is to keep your eyes open on the interstate, as you pass through suburban areas. Empty gas cans seem to have the tendency of jumping out of landscape trailers quite frequently near the burbs. Particularly the 5 gallon size. The wind just blows them out of the trailer, it seems. Also, they can be had in antique and collectible shops.
Awesome solution! I'm sooo tired of having my back give out before the can empties. Thank you!
great videos, watched them all, just gone off-grid hybrid solar, your videos were great help! my question - When are you posting another video. I enjoy your vids on battery chemistry / scientific laws. what do you know about Li ion?
Thanks for the video. I just did this, but with a 1/4" drain cock (Ace Hardware, part number 47092, because they were out of the 1/8" version at my store). I had to use a 29/64" drill bit to get the hole big enough to get it in straight. (I first tried a 27/64", then a 7/8", but it kept starting to go in crooked until I went up to 29/64".) It was still so tight, I can't imagine needing a lock washer. Just finished making the modification; I'll see how it works this weekend.
Thanks a lot, bro. This is a really exciting gas can Hack. We share the same concept in our product.
You know that with an extension and a _universal joint_ on your socket wrench you could actually place a _hex nut_ and a _lockwasher_ on the _inside_ of the can and vastly improve your modification.
Bob Bowie tapered pipe thread on the pet-cock drain valve.
so how do you propose to get it in the tank and on the valve with auniversal joint that wont stay rigid
@@joescheller6680 if im understanding the situation, i think you could tip the can upside down to reverse gravity vector w/ respect to the can. Seems doable but not easy
I like your enthusiasm.
And the comments like: electric rotator device (drill) and double helicoil cut precison cylinder (drillbit) ... priceless
Good job in not recommending the air valve stem method. I have tried that and it absolutely degrades in short time. I live in hot south texas and when the temperature rose enough and the valve's rubber degraded enough, the pressure within the can simply pushed the valve out. I had no idea how long it had been sitting without the valve and gasoline fumes leaking into my garage, I'm just glad I found it before anything bad happened.
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing!!
I been thinking "conspiracy" with the massive price increase and changes! ha! Thank you for the help.
What happened to your videos? I always look forward to your point of view on various topics!
Not to mention the boat gas tanks for rafts and dinghys have *no* vents in them, to prevent "dangerous fumes" from venting into the atmosphere. Instead, it will increase to 5 psi and overpressure the bowl, forcing gasoline into it, spilling it all into the ocean. Previous vents just vented any overpressure. So now we need to either leave the cap off, venting more fumes, or destroy our engine's carburetor.
Edit: Oh, your sub count just rolledover to 20k. Congrats!
+waterlubber Wow!! I never anticipated so many people being interested in my ramblings and random whatnots. Thank you for pointing this out!
All of my boat tanks have had vents either on the tank or incorporated into the gas cap. Air needs to get in for the fuel to be able to flow.
While this method does work, it's far easier and a bit cheaper to buy a 10 pack of actual gas can vents off your favorite online seller, drill a 1/2" hole, and push one in. Voila, same vent as most cans came with 10 years ago. As a bonus, it only sticks out 3-4mm instead of hanging out to snag on stuff like a tire valve or drain petcock. :)
Chris Hinds I hate them because they deform and don't work well when it's cold. They need to design them better, until then I'll stay with my old cans pre-EPA crap.
Knurl, are you OK? No videos for 2 years now. Miss you brother.
here in the UK we have never had a vent and they work just fine - iv watched a few of your videos and youv been informative however this is beyond stupid in a crash that would pop out and so would the fuel have you ever seen a person on fire it no joke - they try to breath air but get flames instead then they try blowing the flames out but run out of air - you getting the point yet - that sound never leaves you -
I remember when this came out. What happened to you man? I've almost graduated high school. Your videos are super entertaining and I want to see more Inverter testing. You gained so many subs! Please come back or tell us what's going on!
Thank you for the support Dante. I am still here and have video ideas, but the expected production quality of youTube videos today vs 8 years ago has left me behind. I'm not an artist and am just some random dude who likes tinkering with stuff. I have so many inverters and related accessories I've purchased over the years! (I have a problem...) For now I'm putting my efforts into unrelated things.
@@knurlgnar24 Never thought I'd hear back from you. I actually have graduated high school. I graduated last year 😂. Who cares about the quality. The best part was you tinkering around with stuff and really giving an awesome understanding on how these things work. I learned so much from your videos.
where are you man? ((yelling from Bangladesh, long time follower))
I know this is an older video, but could one potentially install a smaller pcv valve, the kind used on automotive crankcase venting? With the venting direction going inwards (into the tank) of course? Thanks
Hi, can these Fuel Cans protect fire being caught or explosion?
why aren't you posting anymore?
What happened to knurlgnar24?
hey where are you? we are missing you!!!
There, you now have 40,000 subs. Thanks for the video.
If you buy a replacement nozzle after the original breaks in about 30 seconds, the cans from Harbor Freight still have a feature most other cans have stopped adding: a hand grip on the back side to help pour.
Love your whole video especially the disclaimer at the beginning. Did this to my gas can. Works great. Or you could buy an EZ-pour kit for $10.00. LOL
hey can you make a video of you backup power setup in use and show how long it last I think it would be interesting.
+fliping720 I've been wanting to do that, actually, but my house is such a mess that I'm ashamed to show it on camera. :)
aww, I wont judge you!
+knurlgnar24 I'm interested in a solar system for my houses. I would like to start with my first house. I've been reading on the different types of batteries to use. I've watched your video and wanted to know what size converter I would need. The house is over 2500 sq ft. (Over) I have 2 front load washing machines. 2 dryers. Central air and heat. A well , an extra large kitchen with 2 Electric stoves. ( large stoves ) . numerous lights , 2 hot water heaters. ( extra large ) , 3 freezers, 3 iceboxes. And outside lights and garage. Whew! How big or how many converters will I need?? What's the best in your opinion along with the batteries. I've been looking at these. , ( www.sunxtender.com/ ) I'm probably going to re-wire the whole house anyway.
+knurlgnar24 send me a way to contact you and I'll call or email
Going Off Grid what happend to this kunrlgar
Hello krunglar, i've a broken 230v inverter, i've replaced the 12v mosfets and the irf740 mosfet but i have still a problem. It only generates 142v. I have changed transistors, resistors and revised all. Can you give me some information about this problem? I wait you can help me!!
love your videos, make more
i had a question. i recently acquired some telecom batteries similar to what you made your 1000ah bank from. 5 fiamm 12umtx180ft 198ah . anyway while on a solar power forum i was told that telecom batteries such as these are only meant to be deep cycled 6 or so times before they are scrapped and that i basically paid for someones hazmat disposal fee for paying 75 dollars each for them. before i bought them they were at 13.2-13.5 volts sitting on a pallet at the recycling center so i assumed that they are in working order much like the ones you had where some were able to exceed manufacturer specifications even though used and a few years into their lifespan. anyway so is there any truth to his statement? if i keep the cycling low discharging maybe to no lower than 11.8-12.2v can i expect a reasonable life from these batteries? thanks to anyone who might respond
We miss you knurlgar! Where are you? Where have you been? I hope you are OK...
I got one of these types that do not have a screen in the spout. Put a chunk of air filter media, the green stuff made for single piston mowers and string trimmers.Runs slower but for the protection they provide, it's OK.
Hey knurlgnar24,
Long time no videos posted. Hope all is well.
Knurlgnar where did you go ???, Come back !!!
Where have you gone?We miss you videos!
i have a spectre gas can. made in canada. it has a vent on it, i purchased it about 10 years ago and it works great
Okay, I used a internal tooth lock "star type" washer with a dab of silicone on it, worked just fine and won't come loose.
Thank you for the idea. I hate the new gas can. It spills way more gas than the old kind. I'm a bit leery this vent mod could heat up in the sun and rupture the tenuous thread engagement.
Love the videos....do you still monitor your CZcams account... I have a question.
My friend I hope all is well. Miss your knowledgeable videos. I am wondering if I could read amps used in a 12v system by applying DMM leads on the pos/neg batt terminals without damage? Hope you will see this... Willy
what kind of glue would be best to lock the threads?
I love the warning at the start
Just wanted you to know friend, your presence here is missed. Hope its going well for whatever you are doing now.
What hapend you aint making any more vids?
would plumbers tape help to seal the threads on the petcock valve
I bought 50 yellow push in vents off Ebay. Drill 1/2 inch hole, then press into the can.
I fixed at least 10 gas cans, both old and new. Those yellow vents work on the old screw on vent caps too.
I was wondering if anyone could help me out I live in the UK which might make it hard to awnser but I need a inverter to run some pretty heavy duty tools but only intermittently say 15-30 minutes at a time on a heavy load and would also use it for charging cordless tools I was thinking that 3000w would handle it with out straining the inverter but I'm unsure as to get a high frequency or low frequency inverter and waght is not a issue I'm running a 12v set up as I'm charging the bank of 4x120ah batteries from the vehicle
I'm hopping to spend less than £1000 on the inverter so any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance
I would recommend an external star lock washer instead of the split lock wasker
hey @knurlgnar, please come back... it's been over 2year... we miss your videos man.... are you even alive? :(
Ever seen those ez-pour kits they sell at tractor supply? Comes with a real spout (with screen) and an easily installable vent. Should work on every "spill-proof" can on the market, worked fine on mine.
Those are Spill-Proved cans.
Hi Knurlgnar24
You are really good and fun to watch,,may i ask,,,,will i can ask,,can´t I :-) why you o not make more videos,,, you look close to be able to make a nice little extra,, almost living from this! is there a BUT?
Small world..
Yeah, saw the valve stem but just like you said, the rubber is not gas compatible. Now I’m thinking an all metal valve stem with metal cap, cheaper it you have a number of cans to do. Great video!
If anyone knows of a fully gasoline resistant valve stem/core/cap I do think that would be a superior solution. How do the metal stems seal to the wheel? I assume that is the same material but perhaps they make a seal type that would work? (BTW for other commenters 'gasoline resistant' means gasoline will quickly destroy it. Gasoline resistant implies if you spill gas on it and let it dry there will not be permanent harm. Immersion for long periods of time is different. It needs to be fully solvent proof.)
Also, metal valve stem caps have a rubber sealing surface to act as a 2nd failsafe barrier to air leaks. This would need to be solvent proof as well.
@@knurlgnar24 not sure of the gasket included With all metal stems, but I’m sure you could get a nitrile (buna-n) washer for the stem and o-ring for the cap. Just remove the core, replace the O-rings and you should be good. Fish the stem in through the neck with some bailing wire. I’m ordering stuff soon. A 1/4 in. NPT Tank Valve would also be an option, just remove the core and add a metal cap.
More Knurlgnar! :)
You are missed!
why did you use a lock washer? thoese valves have a tapered thread so that the more you screw it in, the tighter it gets.
The lock washer is to prevent the valve from coming out when opened, not to provide a seal.
use a metal valve stem. remove valve core. remove gasket in the cap. Change nozzle with one from Rural King. Used this method for years. works great won't fall out or leak if bumped. I found this fix in Farm Show Magazine!
Great idea, a petcock, any petcock from an old radiator or where ever you find one and if you don't have one they're only a couple of bucks.
Where you at Knulgnar. Your videos were very interesting.
3 years..... wow
Yeah, they actually do that for a reason. at 2:15 a little pipe can be seen inside the pouring spout. This is intended to draw the air displaced by filling the tank into the jerry can, to reduce the amount of fuel vapours being expelled that may ignite.
It's purpose is to allow air into the can to allow it to pour. It works poorly but but it does allow the fluid to come out slowly. It has nothing to do with fuel vapors. When talking about gas pumps there they do have systems in place to prevent excess fuel vapor from escaping.
Thanks this worked well for me.
i use a non vented one and when it bulges i just open the cap a bit to release the pressure or just keep it in a cool area well thats what i do
That works, but it still pours slowly and easily spills which is the primary problem that needs addressing.
I recommend a step bit when drilling thin materials.
Please post more videos
How about a simple one way valve, so that when standing by it won't let out any of the gasoline, but when you start to pour it lets in all the air you need?
A valve for this purpose would have to be ridiculously large to be sensitive enough to the tiny changes in pressure, hence why it's impractical and not used. Pressure changes are in the hundredths of inches (millimeters) water column pressure.
I've spilled more gas with the new cans than I have ever spilled with the old style. The Briggs and Stratton cans though I have found function the best from any of the new style without modifying it for added venting. The green lock collar though is garbage and it is easily cut off with side cutters.
Are you still alive I miss your videos
Good video sir !
you also get a vent cap in an aftermarket pour spout
Any ideas on removing the plastics bits sheared off when drilling the hole short of turning the can upside down with the spout off and banging on the can?
fill it with water, pour water out after drilling
@@alsatful Thanks. I thought that would be the way to go but was a bit concerned with putting water in the tank. That being said a day or so in a dry environment may evaporate all the water. Actually now that I'm thinking of evaporation it might be a good idea to use distilled vs normal water just in case the minerals/elements left behind during evaporation would not be a problem with distilled water.
How do you screw on a nut from the inside?
what happen man??? did you fall out of the end of the earth?No more videos ??
well I guess that the have better more important things to do than to check his channel.
I sit next to him at work... I can confirm he is still alive and well
Nahhhh.... You need to keep in mind that every one of us have a drive.. his is inverters and so... mine is making really complex machinery "And make it look stupidly simple" but if he don't wanna... he is probably going trough a few of those changes that all of us go in life.& in due time He may come back... other wise is just a waste of time....
+Fry 34k now. It's going up even though it's been over a year since this video was posted. He had excellent, fairly unique content and he knows his stuff. I am curious why he stopped.
Well is a nitch... not every one actually can open complex electronics and trouble shoot them!!
Its 2022 Time for an update. Does the valve leak ?
I've had some minor trouble with gasoline making its way through the brass/metal thread interface when pressurized such as when transporting in a warm vehicle causing odor and seepage. The valve itself is solid. It leaves me wondering if a simple screw on cap and external funnel system would be better.
You should try using regular old leaded gasoline, it pours better.
I want to see a new video like to what your working on. THANKS
A back seat valve drain? Is that the same as a auto radiator drain valve?
MrJohnnyDistortion that's what he used, maybe he didn't know the proper name?
Hi friend where can I get one
Well done - good and faithful servant.
The problem seems to be the spouts... gas cans are unvented in most countries without a problem (the vent is built into the spout)
O-ring with a flat washer instead of the lock washer?
What can you say about a product that comes broken?
I expect nothing less from the cheap crap for sale in today's world. What used to be ordinary consumer grade products are now industrial grade products that cost 4x as much. Yes, you can purchase a good jerry can today for $100+ and it will work as well as the gas cans from the 1980's, but everyone just goes to WalMart and gets the $10 gas can and then bitches about it. Just like I do...
Good fix.
these new gas tanks are a danger they bloat up like balloons in my shed im alway worried about one reputing thanks for the Video !
+mattmopar440 I tend to agree with you. There has actually been one company go out of business after being sued for their cans rupturing when they get hot enough, and opening one of these things up when fully pressurized is an easy way to get gasoline sprayed all over. I know of one person who went to the ER for that. The old style vents that leak slightly once the can is overpressurized worked great to keep things safe. Unfortunately they are now required to never vent under any circumstances. That's what happens you have something designed by bureaucrats instead of engineers I guess...
+mattmopar440 mine too, they blow up and i feel its gonna explode...very cheap, very dangerous...what can we do?
+Theo T install that vent and during your hot months in July I'm going to leave mine cracked a little
+mattmopar440 i had mine since july...its now end of october....do i need to add anything in the tank, to keep the gas in good condition? i heard of stabilizers but dont know much..
+Theo T I just keep the cap tight I've never used stabilizer and have never had an issue gas should last till spring as long as its in a seal container
COME BACK PLEASE?!
you havent uploaded a vid in a while
"need a pressurized container to store gasoline" later relies on plastic to hold in something
Are those gigantic red batteries still going strong?
Yes. I recently went through them and 'renewed' them by desulfating a 2nd time (I stored them improperly which is a lengthy story and some of them were damaged). Now they are functionally even better than when I made those videos of them. Life was lost, but functionality is still 70%+ of new by a quick estimate.
THKS