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Spring modified, vent caps added. Link to buy vent caps on Amz: amzn.to/3rfGlx1
Updated info: The ‘filter’ I refer to in this video is actually a flame arrester, a safety device. You can learn more about its intended purpose in my part 2 video, link above.
New gas cans are “ENGINEERED FOR SAFETY” (says the government agencies). But the safety measures built into these cans and spouts are messy, difficult and potentially DANGEROUS to work with. This video shows several EASY and FREE gas can modifications that make a HUGE improvement in usability.
The gas can in this video is the Midwest Can 5 gallon Safe-Flo Line 5 gallon container, with the Quick-Flow Spout, model 5610.
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Be good, be well and be safe! Thanks for watching!
In 40 years of using gas cans I’ve never spilled so much gas as I have with those stupid safety nozzles.
Exactly! Thanks for leaving your comments!
It seems to me like they are trying to make them less safe by soaking the user in gas lol
Yep. The new nozzles are far more messy than the old style. I've had way more spillage with the safety cans than I ever did with the old ones. BTW, you can get replacement nozzles that do away with the safety crap.
yes! exactly.
The "idea" i believe is this, dumbasses who toss gas on fires. It's because of that I think it was Blitz was sued and lost and had to close up shop. They was located in the states which makes it even more sad.
Stuid as hell that even with warnings, still sue a company out of business, damn ambulances chasing lawyers. Scum I personally feel.
Edit: Adding one of many news articles. www.fdslaw.com/law-topics/blitz-usa-faulty-gas-cans/
I’ve never understood how covering my lawnmower with gasoline when trying to fill it up was supposed to keep me safe.
Yes, it’s kind of an oxymoron isn’t it?
You’re protecting the environment from gas vapors, why don’t you put your mask back on and just be quiet so we know your a good person.
@@MikeFyxdt The EPA is full of Oxymorons..
@@michaeljacques7336 "sheeple ain't good people"
Typical Government Bureaucrats designing stuff that's worse than what they're supposed to prevent!
Thank you, California. Your efforts to reduce gasoline fumes wafting out of the can while it's sitting in the shed have resulted in said fumes evaporating from the puddle in my driveway. You've done an outstanding job saving the environment. Bravo.
Not California.. Obama's EPA
@@rodshoaf Look up C.A.R.B. Compliant. Its all starts in California.
I think it also has to do with absolute morons using gas cans to make bin fires bigger. The gas cans explode and kill the pourer and people around them.
Democrats can screw up anything. The problem is, they don't just do it to themselves (Cali); they drag everyone through their mud.
@@rodshoaf Wrong. EPA was working on this long before Obama.
this is exactly why I buy every old school gas can I see at garage sales. Love the simplicity of them. Make my life SO much easier
I was going to make the same comment... but not needed now.
I have a whole Dodge Dakota with a topper on it full of them, just keep recycling parts until there is no more.😢
Be careful because they do rot. I had an old one crack open when it was strapped to the back of my bike.
The modern gas can is the most perfect example of government intervention to fix a drip that I can think of. They took the loss of a thimble full and turned it into a pint.
We are the government and we are here to help you, lol.
Designed by someone who's never ever used one.
Someone got paid off.
@@hellkell8693
Gov finds a problem where is none, payed itself to pretend to fix it and then pats itself on the back with big $$.
Good scamm if yar in on it !
Exactly!
I'm a mechanical engineer and I'm with everyone in saying that these "safety features" are complete garbage. Removing them is a litteral must
Excellent! Thank you for adding some authority to these comments. I appreciate you watching in joining the conversation!
You would think a mechanical engineer could spell literal
@@markharmon6942 OCD getting in the way of grasping the overall meening? 😉
@@roberttoews2775 *meaning
@@markharmon6942 That means you don't agree to what he said.
I am a 66-year-old female with quite a bit of arthritis in my hands. I just bought a pressure washer, which I love, but it does have a fairly small gas tank so I need to refill it often especially when I do a lot of concrete at once. This video is a lifesaver because I cannot work these new gas cans AT ALL! Now I can pressure wash if my husband is not around or I don't have to annoy him every time I need the tank refilled. Thanks ever so much!!
They definitely were not thinking about women of a certain age when they designed these cans. I couldn't have handled the newer 5 gallon cans in in my 40's.
On number three, if you simply rotate the pliers while holding the edge of the filter tightly, it should twist into a smaller circle and come right out.
I just tried your technique and it worked perfectly and left the filter intact! Now I have an inlet filter for my shop vac that will keep it from functioning properly so OSHA should be happy.
I just shove the sucker inside. Doesn’t interfere because I only use a siphon to get the gas out, but I could see it perhaps being a problem if I poured.
YES! THIS!!
The new gas cans are a perfect example of our modern society’s obsession with fixing problems that don’t exist.
And the “fix” is almost always worse than the problem it was meant to fix.
Agreed, well said! 😁
They do that because 1 in every 1 million people cannot hold a gas can and talk at the same time.
The politicians have to make themselves important somehow!
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The latest design is even more aggravating and spills even more gas everywhere. And I thought the whole reason for a "special" can was to properly vent as well. I've had some swell up and split their seams (leaking even more fuel and becoming consequently useless) not even in direct sunlight. Nothing beats a simple nozzle that seals and a cap on the end that seals - clown world ends there.
AN F MAKING BIGGER PROBLEMS
I work at an equipment rental shop, and I’ve been “disabling” safety widgets on gas cans for years to make it easier on my employees and customers both. Hate these things.
I hear you Space Tiger! I sure hope to see better designs in the years to come… Thanks for watching!
Why is "disabling" in quotes though? It it not an _actual_ disablement?
@@HelloKittyFanMan. somebody is bored.
@@teepee6314: And you're describing yourself to _me_ because...?
OSHA must love you.
So far so good. I’ve filled it twice and it’s great getting 13 gallons at one shot czcams.com/users/postUgkx-vlHjazTv30m_UAq9Ht-fuPo2jBx7tTx . It pumps out by using gravity so the bottom of the tank needs to be above the vessel you're filling. Not a drop spilled filling the generator three times. Let’s see where we’re at after 20 fills.
Way to go, Mike! I hate the BS with all of these new cans. TSC has a kit with a no BS nozzle and a vent included. All of my cans (7 of them) are easy to use, and the EPA can go blow it out their ear.
how the heck do I install the little vent the give with that kit? do I drill a hole? please sir, help me. I am actually very MacGyver-ish, but can't understand that process
Ass
The kit i have supplies a drill bit. Be careful bacause a drill makes SPARKS inside its motor. The GASOLINE FUMES can ignite. Danger danger. I used a pair of pliers on the drill bit (it takes 25 seconds) clean any of the plastic so it doesnt fall INTO the gas can. Use the wire to feed the valve into the tank. I did 3 plastic gascans in 5 minutes. Well worth doing
jack, do you have a link for TSC ? It didn't show up on ebay.
I've gotten to the point of frustration with the new cans to where I just unscrew the spigot and use a funnel when filling up my lawnmower.
Those cheap plastic nozzles eventually crack and leak. Funnel is better in many situations. Usually lawnmowers is all I use gas directly from the can. Premix for 2strokes gets mixed a pop bottle at a time and couple bottles of mix would overfill the chainsaws and weed eater. No stale premixed fuel left in the can to go to waste.
I do the same thing
The EPA really fucked us Americans with this bullshit
and gener8ors!
Metal can with built in funnel works pretty damn good, but quite expensive..I've used heater hose, garden hose, anything to modify away from these damn "safety" cans..
This is what happens when lawyers try to be engineers.
And/or engineers try to think like lawyers!!!!!
@@PierreaSweedieCat : They have S . . . for brains!!!
To many lawyers, not enough engineers.
@@josepharato5885 And THEN.... they get the bean counters involved and take a decent concept and ruin it to total unusable state.
@@sferg9582 and they are made in China God help us if you ever saw made in USA,when you buy things look for the letters CE on the package,that means Chinese export.
Great video 👍. I replaced this type of spout with a traditional screw-on spout from my local farm store. Love it 😀.
I cannot express the amount of hate we all hold for this design choice. Thank you so much for showing us all how to circumvent government overreach and make these nozzles safer for everyday use!
I cannot thank you enough for doing this video. My husband passed away last year, I had to buy new gas can and OMG...it's a nightmare. I had no idea how to fix it. You are a life saver.
Rachel, I’m really glad I was able to help you! I’m so glad you let me know, thank you! 😁
just rip-out the red plastic piece.....pliers / grab / rip......
Sorry for your lose mam. God bless.
That what happens when you vote for Democrats. None of them have ever cut their own grass. They wouldn’t know where to put gas in their car that’s why they want electric vehicles. Morons.
After experiencing my new gas can, and failing to get any use out of it, I understand why my old ones were stolen. Thank you for these great ideas.
Sorry for your loss, yeah after my experience with new gas cans I happily paid quite a bit for a set of old-school Jerrycans.
@@DWmaniac4n6 = )
@@krisniznik3953 She probably just bought, 'Your Stolen Cans' !! 😯🤭🙃🤯. 🤣
yeah i keep my old cans under lock and key. they are quite valuable. i made a dump run and found an old crushed can but the nozzle was intact i snatched it in a hurry. im still trying to figure out why nobody in front of me grabbed it first. the nozzle is really the important part.
@@1heavyelement I 3d printed replacements for my new cans. A couple of O rings to seal the nozzle and lid and had 0 spillage, and I'm not worried about the print deforming in anyway because I used the same plastic that the cans are made out of. (ABS plastic)
Great vid, It's also a lot of fun trying to hold 40 lbs of gasoline up with one hand while trying to keep the nozzle open with the other hand . I've spilled much more gas with these " new improved" nozzles than I ever did with the old simple nozzles.
Just bought the same can at Tractor Supply a few days ago for the lawn mower. After coffee this morning I will "RetoFit" my gas can. Thank you, excellent video.
This is the good ol' industry standard of "making things so safe, they become unsafe to use"
Despite the fact that several people are trying to make others out as bad people for preferring the old style "cans", if people weren't so lazy to put the yellow cap back on the pourer spout, they wouldn't have to worry about the fumes, or whatever.
I still gladly have the old style, and even an old round metal gas can like my Grandfather had. I have never had to fuss with "safety" features, and if I have anything to say about it, I won't. I know how to use my gas cans, and put lids on when not filling or pouring gas, unlike the idiots who think these are the way to go.
Too much "safety" atrophies vigilance.
No tool safer than one never used
@Cabaret Z lmao ;-)
Not necessarily. A lot of safety features (when designed correctly), save lives. Good safety controls can be difficult to design and usually have to be implemented through industry standards.
The funny thing about that filter is that it only works to keep the fuel can clean. What's left in the filter goes straight in the first item you fuel up
Tim, it was my mistake to call it a filter. It is a flame arrester safety device. I corrected this in my second video, link in the description. Yes, as a filter it made absolutely no sense! Thanks for watching.
@@MikeFyxdt ULINE Metal can is the real deal. They are pricey, but its a one time buy. They also meet all the safety standards and are really nice to use. We have then at work per insurance request. Guess it wouldn't make a good Mike vid. Nothing to fix.
@@dustyc324 thanks for sharing. I’m glad some companies still make quality products. It’s worth paying for something that will last.
@@MikeFyxdt I bet that "flame arester" is as ineffective at it's job, as is the spout at being safer, or environmentally friendly.
@@jreyman flame arresters are very effective at preventing flames from traveling through them. There's no reason to doubt that one.
As I prepare for hurricane season in FL, I would have been completely surprised in: not being able to fill my cans, not being able to refuel my generator, exposing myself to the hazard of spillage. Without your investigative work and posting, I never would have known. Nice work! Thank you!
😁
Thank you for this video. I'll confess an earlier personal experience while removing the 'safety screen' from the tank. As you mentioned, you don't want the screen falling into the can, which is exactly what happened. Obviously one has a choice ..... to either simply let it live in there, or devise a plan to extract it. I chose the latter.
After an hour or so of holding the can upside-down, fortunately I was able to shake it into just the right position, and I was barely able to get a grip on the edge with the needle-nose and gently wiggle it out far enough to get a better grip. With 5 more cans to go, I'll be using your method to remove .... hopefully without losing any more on the inside! Your method seems to be the only viable one, so thank you!
You can thank our government leaders who never mowed a lawn in their life, for telling us that these cans are the best for us, that they care.
Thank so much in taking time
to make this video. Have a great day!🙂
Jimmy Jimmy, I appreciate you watching!
Exactly right. Environmental leftist from the cities who never see grass or a mower designed these...idiots
And this is the same government that told us we needed to get all these vaccinations
Actually, you can thank the people who are the reason why there are warning labels on shampoo bottles, and the lawyers who defend them!
Scariest words you can hear: I'm from the govt and I'm here to help.
Yes those things are awful. They're so "safe" I spill half the gas on myself and the other half on what I'm trying and wishing I could fill.
Abdul, yes I know… It’s ironic how messy these safe containers are! I really hope the manufacturers are listening, and we see better designs in the future. Thanks for watching and for joining the conversation!
@@MikeFyxdt California mandated design, and yes, it affects the whole country, not just CA.
@@MikeFyxdt I feel like the filters, should have a one way valve that opens up when you press in the nozzle. That way filling it up is safe, and instead of keeping impurities out of the can, you keep impurities out of the gas tank of what you're using.
@@DeathProductions200 that is an excellent idea! In fact, the filter is a flame arrester safety device, which I explained in my second video. If it had a valve to let the gas station nozzle through it, and it closed when you removed The nozzle, that would be the perfect solution! I appreciate your creativity, and thank you for joining the conversation!
I have this can at home, and the first time I used it, a squirt of gas shot out and hit me right in the face as I pushed the nozzle in. I can't tell you how much this increased my appreciation of the engineering profession.
Just bought one of these cans and was baffled by its operation. The little lock is very hard to engage and of course the spring makes it nearly impossible to use unless you have a 2 ton car to hold the receiving end in place. I will immediately apply your fix although I didn't have any problem with filling it up (the pump kicking off when the fuel backs up). Great video. Very well done. Others should watch this if for no other reason to see how to make a professional quality video. Again, well done!
I have a 2.5 gal plastic gas can, bought for $4.99 about 30 years ago. Simple spill proof design with an easily removable plastic disc insert below nozzle and a tiny nipple air vent which stays shut with a push cap.
Still going strong.
I think I have the 5-gallon version of that!!! Now I'm going to take better care it, hopefully get another 20 years out of it.
That air vent makes such a difference!
Good point, adding an air vent valve is a must in modifying a gas can.
Be careful with it, you might hurt yourself in another 30 years with that dangerous spout🤣🤦
Why don't new cans have that little nipple bit that lets you open it and let the air out of the can when it's really hot or to let air into the can when it's real cold. All my new, safe cans are either blown up like balloons if I don't notice them and release the pressure in summer or they look like collapsed beer cans in the winter. Pouring them is a nightmare.
Remember the good ol days? And to think the price of the new cans have gone up to cover all these safety mods.......I have some old cans that I will NEVER get rid of.
@Randi Ruge - I really don't remember old gas can prices because I bought only 1 or 2 and they lasted forever. These are relatively cheap, but I would happily pay less for cans that don't have all the safety 'improvements'!
@@MikeFyxdt The old metal cans were .98 cents at Western Auto.
@@treyhart6861 You could think government and the massive inflation that’s been happening for the past year and a half with the trillions of dollars being printed so government can distribute a couple pennies to the people and hundreds of millions of dollars in dollar pockets
Yes Lumber nearly doubled in price last year. The fires that happened in California were mostly crown fires and hurt the lumber industry much less than you would think because most of that standing timber is harvestable. The wildfires typically don’t burn the entire tree it just burns the fuel around it and the needles and small limbs of the tree. it kills the tree but they’re still standing and they’re still perfectly fine for the lumber mills to cut down and process into Lumber.
Forest in the Midwest are adapted to fire and actually require it from time to time in order to keep a forest healthy. Some of the reasons were seeing such large wildfires in the pacific west is because of the policies that govern Ben 10 Cal fire have instituted over the decades such as aggressively fighting every Wildfire that occurs while simultaneously gutting the lumber industry. This is allowed our forests to build up a tremendous amount of fuel that explodes into these fires. But the Forests recover quickly.
@@MikeFyxdt They were metal. Aluminum, I think. Or maybe stainless steel; like what was used to make grenades.
Thanks, I have the same can with the same complaints. Filling up the mower never used to be a treacherous ordeal before the "safety cans". Thanks for the great tips.
I just purchased this gas can and could not believe how complicated it was. Thanks for a great informative video. Looking forward to completing these Mods.
Removing the filter: once you have the needle nose pliers stuck in and you grab the filter, twist the pliers on their axis a half or full turn to wind the filter up around them. This will shrink the diameter of the plastic filter and you will be able to pull it right out without digging.
Though if they sonic welded the filter in, you may still need to do the once-around with the screwdriver.
Good point.... .thanks!
I thought it was a strainer also, I later found out that it a flash arrester for fire.
sounds like you 've done this ILLEGAL MOD. before.........me too.......we're not all as stupid as the gov't thinks we are......just give us a real can and we''ll pour gas with no spills.........
Mike, this is GREAT! I had to replace a can that I've had for over 20 years and bought one of these. I was losing my mind trying to figure out how stop the government from saving me from myself, lol. Can't thank you enough!
I am so glad the video helped! Thank you for watching, and sharing your comments! :-)
The government considers us all to be idiots, useful only for taxing purposes.
I got so pissed I gave it away. Hope they figured it out .
Thank you! I went to fill one of these nightmare cans when I used a gas generator yesterday. I was livid. Gas splashed back when filling a five gallon can. I actually only got close to 2 gallons. I will definitely be modifying that can.
Last winter I bought a diesel heater and got a "Midwest Can" brand jug for diesel fuel. It's basically the same design, just made with yellow plastic instead of red. I had the same trouble with the spring loaded spout, but didn't realize that anything could be done with it and just resorted to trying to pour without using the spout at all. I usually didn't spill much... unless there was any kind of breeze. This is so much better. I don't know how youtube knew to recommend your video, but I glad it did! Thank you.
I’m a mid 70’s woman and this is pretty much my first gas can in a few decades. I couldn’t figure out how to use that stupid worthless contraption for the life of me. I either need a whole new spout or to be able to modify it. I cannot use it as it is. Thanks for this video. It is most helpful
send it to me, i regularly do this,,,,,,,,you'll love it after the modification............
As far as I know. Its NOT illegal to make your gas can work properly. Good Job Bob.
Amen brother.
Illegal to fill a modified gas can at most service station pumps in the US. Technically...
@@steveswede8162 citation?
@@DominickWalenczak Removing "safety features" from a modern gas can would conceivably make it an "unapproved container". I don't have a citation but the fact that gasoline may only legally be dispensed into an "approved container" along with the fact that these "safety features" are mandated by law, it's not at all a stretch to assume that technically you'd be breaking the law. However, no one, including law enforcement, actually cares. It's a stupid nanny law invented and passed by dumb old biddies with bingo wings who have never used a gas can.
@@nutbastard The actual law is there for safety. See the recent videos of people filling grocery bags.
The "unmodified" clause is in there for the lobbying fools who want the law to help them get more sales.
Bought 6 cans exactly the same in Austin Texas in 2021. Went to Sam's to fill them. Blew gas all over me.
Needle nose pliers wit the jam and jerk move worked quickly.
Tractor Supply has new high flow nozzles with air vent.
Jam and jerk move for the win!!! 😄
don't forget the loud "grunt " in betwix the jam and jerk actually a tad closer to the jerk
These safety designs make the job literally dangerous. They are the only cans available to buy in the shops.
Thank you for showing how to fix them and make the job safe again.
You're welcome! I'm glad it helped. 😄
It is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS that you can no longer buy a gas can with a usable spout... I'm treating my old ones like GOLD now!
Yes - old cans are the new 'in thing'!
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I believe someone got hurt n burnt with the old stlye spout/ hose....from the lawsuit thats why gas cans are expensive. This was told to me by soneone in the automotive industry
There are a few out there. You have to search and they are not inexpensive.
@@amunderdog: I keep an eye out for them wherever I go, but it's been at least a couple of years since I've seen one...
As an engineer... I am optimistic these engineers knew they we forced to design something stupid and purposely made it easy to defeat the stupid. Love this mod!
Maybe like the safety mechanisms on a patio heater? Ever had one that actually worked? I bet the safety mechanisms were disabled. Takes about 2 minutes to do.
The reason for such strong safety measures is to prevent redneck to SPUR GAS DIRECTLY FROM THE CAN TO THE FIRE:
A Gas Can company was sued to bankrupt for moron than keep pouring gas into fire directly ignoring the big warning label the company put in the can.
So if a redneck disable the safety measures as this guy do the company can defend itself as the can's owner modify it so the company is not responsible of a bad use.
@@EliosMoonElios wth is SPUR? I WAS IN EXCELLENT SPELLING IN school. Spew? How about pour?
@EliosMoonElios the reason is so people give up on using gas equipment and go electric, I'm not sure where you got your info, these spouts are to supposedly stop vapors from going into the atmosphere
Well...This is why people hate engineers as much as lawyers and politicans.
Hey, I’m with you on that rule break situation. I go on the Internet and buy the kits that replace all the new stuff with the old stuff so that you actually got a freezer hole she added again and old school screw on nozzle
I did this to my stupid spout first thing this morning. It works!!! I also took out the red thing, pushed the spout down and duct taped it with heavy duty duct tape. Since I don't get gasoline everywhere now, duct tape should last a while. No more lying awake at night trying to figure it out. Thank you!! PS. I'm a 66 year old woman!
Finally.... Something useful from a completely normal person on CZcams.
Excellent project.
Thanks
@Dave S - Thank you for watching, and thank you for calling me a completely normal person. I’m adding that to my resume!
I’ve spilled more gas with these cans than anything I’ve ever owned before
Sounds like something that they let the token diversity hire design.
Thankfully you can still buy old school nozzles for new gas tanks.
@@charlieretro I bought some, but they are just slightly under size so they leak constantly. I swear, I think they’re trying to ruin the environment with their protection
The US government motto is....if it ain't broke fix it till it is!
its reassuring to hear that and im doing something wrong with mine!
Another good idea is to drill a hole on the top opposite the spout so that it doesn't have to fill with air as your pouring and make that repetitive sloshing effect since the can will fill woth air as you pour. You can then plug it with a golf tee to reseal it when not pouring
*you're
My jaw dropped open when you removed the filter. I had no idea it was so long! Keep up the good work. I am a new subscriber!
Thats what she said
I swear all of those "safety" functions result in me spilling more gas than I ever have... and that's aside from how SLOW they pour.
u can not fix BS
Couldn't agree with you more! 15 minutes to fill my snowblower tank in the middle of the winter is ridiculous.
@@iloveglobalwarminggodbless5059 I'm sure they had a good reason for doing it. Like having 15 of them in an enclosed shed when you decide to light your cuban cigar could cause an explosion. Or because the fumes from a can left open could *eventually* equal the amount of pollution it takes to manufacture all of the complicated parts that goes into the new design.
I get mad and remove the whole spout, spilling half the gas on everything! but at least it's over quickly !! And I'm done !
You can purchase a kit for less than $5 that has a new spout that's flexible with just a cap like the old ones. It also comes with a vent that you can put on the backside like the old ones used to have. You just have to drill a 1/2 inch hole and press it into the hole by hand.
OR you could just order replacement flexible spouts online like I did to fix my old cans. For the new one, just drill a hole in the back and insert the little vent cap. As for the filter; that's brilliant. It keeps the junk from entering your can, but pours it right into your tank. Absolutely genius!
I agree with using an aftermarket spout, a very popular option. What I called the filter is actually a flame arrester safety device, which I described in more detail in my second video, link in the description. Thank you for commenting and for watching!
Actually it isnt a filter at all it is a flame arrestor. The purpose of the thing that looks like a filter is to keep a flame from entering the can and causing a explosion. If you doubt me google it, I know of a gas can company named Blitz that went bankrupt due to eliminating the filter causing injury and fatalities when their own in house research said they did work to prevent explosions. These fire arrestor screens are usually in the spout but the spout in this design could not accomidate a screen.
I use golf tees as a vent plug
@@elwoodward769 Blitz went under because the company was small, and couldn't deal with the mass litigation caused by idiots injuring themselves by pouring gasoline on lit fires.
Excellent! I purchased a gas can from a big box store that has a safety nozzle that that is a big pain to use. It is different from this one, but you've given me a good excuse to try to modify it! Thanks for sharing your video!
My hat is off to you for the patience you exercised on the tank. I gave it 3 strikes, set it aside and got the funnel out. When I was working, we needed to use metal safety cans. This of course splattered all over the place. We would mod, safety guy would come along and make us get another one which we show him, then mod it.
Number 4 Mod. Carefully insert a drywall screw up by the handle of the container to allow the can to vent. Remove the screw when using the can, put in back in during storage. Put the screw in the side of the handle so the hole is on top when the can is tipped. (not toward the ground, but up in the air. This way the gas stays below the vent hole
No joke they sell you the same shit they used to make the cans come standard with
I believe you can also buy a vent/cap to add to them to do the same thing,just have to drill a hole in the top of the can.
This is exactly what i did. Use the screw to make a little hole and be done with it
There was another video that showed using a Valve Stem from a tire as a vent. Drill a hole, unscrew the Schrader Valve, use a piece of wire to feed it through the hole, and snap it into place. Unfortunately the gasoline eats the rubber, I found that out the hard way. I fixed it by using the all metal bolt-on tire stems, a bit more expensive, but way ,onger lived. Put the cap on and it seals it for carrying, take the cap off, and it's a nice clear vent.
@@toadman506 Yep, all my cans have Schrader valves on all my gas cans with the valve stem removed for more air flow. Been lucky and haven't noticed any leaks due to the rubber getting degraded.
I dump more gas on the ground with one of these "environmentally friendly" spouts on the average day than I did in 25 years combined before using them
Just like a camel, it was designed by a government comity, no really !!
Absolute truth. All Courtesy of CA CARB and EPA.
Try using one on a dock to fill a boat that will float up/down/sideways… #exxonValdez
Leave it up to the gov and more specifically California to "fix" something. They literally made this 20x more environmentally unfriendly and dangerous because of all the extra gas you spill compared to the old design and the extra plastic parts.
I am soooo glad you did this video! I just bought three new cans and hate them! Gonna "fix" them your way now!
Really useful video. I have one of those nozzles and hate it. The spring removal is particularly helpful. Yes, it back-splashes because of the filter, they're a pain to fill, unless you're using them on a big vehicle, the force of the spring pushes away the chainsaw, weed-eater, lawn-mower, etc. You're 100% correct.
I have never understood these so-called improvements to the newer gas cans. Excellent modification, and most pragmatic video. THANK YOU, Mike!
I threw mine away, too much of a PIA👎🏻
You're welcome! I'm really glad this video is helping others…
The spout is designed to keep vapors from escaping. This is a major source of air pollution and an explosive hazard. Now I think the design sucks but the intent was good. The "screen" is a flame arrestor to prevent explosions if a spark happens. Honestly we need grounding straps for filling portable fuel cans the same way airplanes do. Probably need them in cars to, but in a car this is mitigated by having a fuel system that doesn't allow vapors up the filler neck.
These rules don't happen in a vacuum, they are the result of accidents and an effort to protect consumers. Just because it never happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
@@EthosAtheos The vapors escape any way when you pour the fuel Einstein. It's just more government stupidity.
@@charlesfreeman1224 No not really. The vapors that are being targeted by the EPA are long term evaporation. When gasoline is heated, say in a plastic container in the sun. The gasoline gives off more vapors. Gasoline also expands a lot compared to water when heated. So the can is constantly breathing, pushing out vapors when heated and sucking in clean air when cooled. This is why your 5 gallon gas can when full has about 25% air space at the top. People still over fill them not understanding why you shouldn't.
Yes some vapor does escape while emptying the fuel can. But the long term evaporation is lower than an open container.
Do the experiment, put a cup of fuel in 2 Maison jars in the sun. Cap one of them and leave the other open. After a month go check how much gasoline is missing form each.
Totally agree with you. I have four similar cans that I bought maybe 10-12 years ago. All with the government's "safety" regulations in mind. They absolutely SU CK! For all the reasons you mention. Good to be among friends. Thanks for the vid!
@livenhfree - You're welcome! I'm all for safety, but to be safe a product has to be easy to use...and these aren't.
These gas cane's suck!!
The "new safety rules" leak more than the old school ways. Seems worse for safety AND environmental concerns! Only the federal Gov't could spend millions to make us go backwards!
After several years of hating to use modern gas cans I finally realized about six months ago that I can put a real vent into the can ♥️♥️♥️
Bless you, Bless you. I haven't thrown an honest fit in years, until today. I hope my neighbors didn't see me dance. I will go right outside and fix this horror of misguided nonsense.
OMG, your post put a huge smile on my face! I'm really glad the video helped! 😄
My favorite part is the screen makes sure that any impure objects you catch with the screen heads directly into your really expensive machinery. Nice job lawyers.
A screen attached to the nozzle you remove instead of directly into the can would fix this and catch the impurities in the can.
@Bob Alan ..technical name: flame arrestor...
It’s designed to stop a flame-front from following the gasoline vapors into the gas can.
And yes, they work well.
Liquid gasoline does not burn. Only gasoline vapors in proper proportions with air will burn, and they burn explosively.
@@ernestgalvan9037 If your stupid enough to set the gas on fire, then your dumb enough to get blown up.
@@ernestgalvan9037 !!
That was my thought exactly.
Go to tractor supply they sell the old fashioned flexible hose with threaded cap and vent plug. They work just like they use to.
Thank you!
Do the ones at Tractor Supply allow you to reverse the nozel and poke it into the can during transport and storage? I hate these new cans where the nozzel is sticking out all the time (always getting in the way.)
@@herrunsinn774 They’re just happy to see you 😁
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Seriously..been using these for 5 years with these new crappy gas cans. These nozzles at TSC are gold. Even with improvemwnts mentioned in video..which are all great...i still cannot pour gas into my skidsteer because of where the intake cap is located. I have to habe 14" nozzle. Funnels suck.
Ive had the exact same nozzle in the past and boy what a pain in the hind end it was. Even putting gas in a vehicle with it was such a pain. Why in the world dont they make a plain jane gas can nozzle these days. Such a simple thing as a gas can gets turned into a nightmare to use. Great tip and video!!!
Just removed the cursed springs from two gas cans and easily transfered gas without spilling a drop. Thanks so much, you rule.
When everybody gets done fixing the cans the EPA will be like most government agencies. Wasted effort and expense to solve a non existent problem.
@Taka Jaloja - It will be interesting to see the future of gas can design. I can't imagine it will get worse...or can it? LoL, thanks for joining the conversation!
But of it looks good on paper it’s , as Borat says “ GREAT SUCCESS”. That’s Government. You don’t seriously believe anyone choosing this stuff ever tried to use it do you😉🙃. I worked for the US gov 30 years and it’s like watching a monkey 4 Hippos blindfolded. When a reasonable idea goes in what comes out the other end after “The Blessings🥺” looks like Harry Kruger gave Cinderella a makeover . With the sorts of activist minded fools involved with EPA it staggers the imagination 🙄
@@drizler I love your examples! Borat reference for extra bonus points!!!
Conspiracy theorists in me thinks ths is all a part of trying to drive people away from gas powered engines, make it so annoying that will spend more money than its worth for all electric stuff that the battery technology isn't quite ready for. Those filters seem nice but ultimately your pouring the trash into the gas tank your filling, think its more for flame arresting. ez-pour or ez-fill from tractor supply has a kit for a new nozzle with separate vent you drill the can for.
First we will need to Defund the Police
I usually cut a spring shorter and stretch what's left to the original length to reduce the force needed.
Growing up 40 years ago our go to gas can was a squat round dinosaur with a double cap bottom of the cap was big like most cans and it had a smaller cap that constantly got lost when you screwed the goose neck on. Luckily the cap size was common. When my dad died we went thru the shed and he had all sorts of the fancy new cans piled up in the far corner, but that old metal beast was front and center at the door.
Douglas we had that metal beast growing up. It was my dad’s one and only. If I knew the future of these plastic containers I never would’ve gotten rid of it… :-)
That idea occurred to me before reading this. I am reminded of the "safety" jar lids that require a hammer and industrial gloves to open.
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The pill bottles?!
The easiest way was to give them to a kid! Had them opened in seconds! Lol
@@MikeFyxdt Unfortunately, with the advent of ethanol (read "water-attracting") fuel, those wonderful metal beasts will corrode more quickly, so the government has stepped in with a solution for the other government solution. Problem is, they never just retract the previous mistake. 30 erroneous solutions later, nobody knows what was needing to be accomplished in the first place. For example, take the student loan "crisis"... (sorry, got to stop now and eat some more blood pressure pills before these people do me in. Did Fauci approve these things?) :)
Thank you!!! I didn't have the strength in my hands to make the spring work. I wasted so much gas in it's original state. I really appreciate you sharing.
Thanks a lot, Mike. I recently purchased several of these "new" gas cans. I was totally frustrated trying to put gas into my mower. I wanted to use a battery operated siphon but the filter was in the way. I pushed thru and into the can. I've fixed the tab problem, now I'm going to fix the spring problem too. Thanks again for your tips.
I don't wish anyone to die, but the guy that came up with the "safe" gas can idea comes really close to my limit!
Anytime I see an old-style can for sale I buy it.
Now I am on the lookout for older design cans, too. Thanks for checking in!
Some progressive from California invented it, I'm sure
Garage sale is our friend!
@@jamesmilos9909 YUP, bought two 2 gallon cans for $3 a few weeks ago. :-)
A weaker spring would do just as well as no spring.
I remember when I first started cutting grass 35 years ago when I was 10, my dad had a metal gas can and a lawnmower that once you started it the blade spun and had zero safety or panic bars and had zero problems as I was taught how to properly use these tools.
A friend of mine had an old school reel mower with a Reo engine (truck company). It had a big flywheel on the side. But instead of using a pull rope, he would spin the flywheel with his foot and it would start every time.
I've bought at least three push mowers since the 70s, and before I use them the first time I remove the plastic that makes it difficult to pull backwards, the other piece where the cut grass clogs up underneath it, then the safety brake device on the engine itself. Whoever designed this stuff has probably never used a lawn mower to cut grass.
Our parents were making mature men out of us back them so we could go out on our own as adults. Now adult kids hide in the basement playing video games or staring at their little phones while their fathers go to work, come home and cut the lawn.
@@dancindavey1515 Yep
good for you, you survived
a lot of kids back in "the good old days" died from making simple random mistakes
not because they were stupid, they died cause they were kids
so helpful. Acquired one for free at local Landfill drop off/pickup building. Brand new. Clearly someone donated it in disgust. Now I know how to modify easily and carefully and have a functional fuel can.
All the years I have been fixing and using equipment and putting gas in who knows what I never even thought about fixing my pain in the ass gas cans. I don't have the crazy filter in the gas cans but I do have the crappy nozzles. Fixing my gas can will be first on today's list of repairs and projects here on the Farm. Thanks for posting. I made sure to subscribe for future info.
Don't forget to leave a gasoline container full of water with a little gasoline floating on top in an easy location for the thieves.
Greg that's hilarious!!! :)
Nice!
Not gasoline and water, gasoline and sugar!
Don’t even need the gasoline floating on top. Doubt they would field check it.
I have done that
I still have an old school metal gas can with a long metal bendable tube that only pours if you lift the airlock. Been in the family for 50 or 60 years. Works like a charm.
They are still available: www.justrite.com/ However, they are very expensive at $ 85.00 US. In my opinion, they are worth every penny as they are far safer than any of the new plastic cans, modified or not.
Don't break it or lose it!!!
I'll give you 500 for it lol. It'll save me money if I have to use that safety can
"Jerry" cans. yep old school stuff. Many were galvanized. Rectangular shaped with about 4:1 ratio. I still have one gotta be at least 60 years old. Holds diesel with staBil as a preservative.
I have one of those in the gallon size.
Great for small engines.
This video saved me so much hassle! Thank you so very much! I did everything exactly how you explained and my gas can works perfectly. No more spilled gas on my hands or straining to keep the nozzle open to fill my machines!
Thanks they need to link this video on the packaging. I broke a similar spout as I couldn’t figure all these issues out, but now I’ll actually be able to fuel my snowblower and generator with the spout.
Watching him pull that trash out is like watching someone remove a splinter or popping a huge zit. Very satisfying.
Lol! I have to agree, it was very satisfying. That filter kept going and going! :-)
Next step is to get a small threaded brass fitting with an attached cap. Drill out a slightly undersized hole on the top back of the container, warm up the brass fitting and then press fit it into the hole. Voila, a pressure normalization valve so that you can pour the gas smoothly and splash free then seal it up vapor tight.
I installed tire valve stems without the core. When I use it I unscrew the valve stem cap. Pours like it should. When I'm done, screw the little cap back on
Good solution for probably the worst flaw.
I bought a five gallon can that is supposed to vent the can through the pour spout. All it would do is leak gas all over no matter what I did. I used an older straight through spout without all that nonsense and put a small screw in the other side of the can for a removable air vent. Works great!
Yes, a small vent opening would help the flow to be smoother when pouring. This would result in less spill, and seems like a safer option to me. This used to be common in older models. Why has it been taken out of current gas cans? To save production cost??
Just buy a moto cross gas can. It has a rubber hose with basically a cork on the end of it
the screen in the tank is to help reduce flame and explosion from a spark. that's the way I understand it.
and they are a pain. great video. Thank you.
For my roadside rescue gig, I was given a 2-gallon can with a similar contraption that was equally troublesome. I too had to do mods to make it work as expected. The intense UV rays here in Florida caused the can to deteriorate quite severely. As a replacement, I bought one of those 2-gallon pancake units where the plunger is much better integrated; just apply a reasonable amount of force and it collapses like needed. Plus, the whole can slides very neatly under my cargo box for added protection. The only caveat is that pressing down on the locking tab can be somewhat cumbersome when tightening the lock ring.
Do you remember when you could get a good gas can? Pepperidge farm remembers
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You still can. Granted, you have to spend a bit more; and you wont find them in big box stores. Just google "Justrite Safety Can" I have a 1 gallon for 2 cycle mix, a pair of 5 gallon cans for the snowblower, mower, emergency backup generator etc.
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Shouldn't that be "Pepperidge Fahm remembahs?" (LOL)
I remember getting a gas can the first time and struggling and spilling so much trying to use it on a very small generator. Thanks Big Brother for making these so safe they're dangerous to the user!
Al Thill - It wasn’t always this complicated! An old-school container with a vent and a flexible nozzle was all you needed. Maybe better designs will be coming to the market in the near future because people are reading these comments. One can only hope… :-)
Didn't know to do that thanks for making like it supposed to these new libearils of EPA needs abolished abusive of power just another gov job by politicians like IRS CDC EPA abolish abusive of power gov jobs
Good job. Now one more thing is needed. A vent. I use a valve stem without the core. If you misplace the cap they are easy to get
A Vent! Buy a tire VALVE STEM at your local auto parts store and have them remove the valve core, which is an easy task. Save the cap! A short stem works best. Measure the diameter between the two sealing ridges and break out a drill bit. Best to begin with a smaller bit so as to not tear the hole. Locate a spot behind the handle, near the top, where the liquid won't come out. Install the valve stem and remove the cap on your new vent when you are filling the can or pouring it out.
Thank you so much, Mike.
I previously bought 4 of these cans and thought they were the WORST cans I ever bought due to everything you pointed out in this video. I am going to modify my own cans before filling up again.
Remember when you poured the gas can and the gas came out? I do good ol days.
Strangely, I have no intention of modifying my gas can yet I really enjoyed watching this.
We just bought one of those gas cans and YOURS is the best video out of at least ten I've watched--THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
After two hours of cussing I turned to old reliable CZcams. I knew I couldn't be the only one trying to figure out how to work this new fangled pieces of crap. Bless You My son, spring removal time.
I’m glad you found the video Swamp Yankee! Before you dig in you might want to check out my second video, which shows how to modify the spring to make it easier, if you don’t want to remove it entirely. Link in the description if you would like to watch.
They'd be even better if you didn't have to push any buttons and slide the stupid nozzle in. Just give me a funnel type nozzle with a cap or a cork.
@@MikeFyxdt I was going to say, just clip off some of the spring to make it easier to push the nozzle to make it work, but I guess I need to watch the 2nd video.
I bought a 6 pack of replacement spouts on line. Each spout had two different rings of different threads and diameters as well as 6 vents you can install with a 1/2 inch drill bit. I have 7 different 5 gallon cans that are made by 4 different companies and all adapted with this kit which cost $35. Now I have no spills and a more even flow to dispense but I'm out $35.
I can't believe one needs to _install_ a vent on the new gas cans. My old plastic one has a built-in vent. What were they thinking? Is leaving out the vent supposed to save the planet? I suspect the damage done by the spillage caused by the idiot-contraption spouts does far more damage than the little bit of evaporation from missing air vent caps, which are normally attached with a ring so they don't get lost.
Yep, with our govt.'s help, we have made a product 1) very difficult to use and frustrating, 2) less safe by increasing the likelihood of spilling fuel, and requiring doubling the total cost and time required to buy the extra nozzles and vents to make it functional.
Thanks again government officials wait did Jr have something to do with this - is this new gas container from one of his new companies?
I use a plastic 1/2 or 3/4 cap from the plumbing section found at a hardware store for end cap. On the farm we have a lot more dust to contaminate the nozzle. This keeps it clean!
Thank you very much I bought 3 of these to find out what kind of pain in the butt they were But with these hacks I love these cans now Thanks again
Another useful safe mod is to drill a hole in the handle or opposite end of the top to allow air to replace the fuel. Prevents the glugging
Jeremy, yes! In my second video I added a vent, and it made a huge difference! There is a link in the description if you would like to watch.
@@xlneoMAXlx - And speeds up the leaking all over your trunk on the way home.😮
@@xlneoMAXlx - I suppose a piece of duct tape would work. New each time. Easy fix?
Yes, and you can find a screw to plug up that hole you drilled for storage. Machine screws (bolts) work better than wood screws.
The old style cans had a little screw off cap you loosened when you used the can. Who do they have designing these things, a team of bonobos from the National Zoo?
Just yesterday I was trying to pour diesel out of a new yellow can into my wife’s tractor. After ten minutes of watching a tiny trickle and barely getting half the can in there, I just took the damn nozzle off and poured directly out of the can with no nozzle.
Just made these "modifications" to my new No-Spill gas can. Thank you so much for this video!!
Awesome video. A classic example of why I cherish my old style gas cans!
I am not sure how I was lucky enough to have this show up in my feed but I am so happy it did. This past winter was my first experience a “new and improved” gas can and I couldn’t take it; I actually shoveled several times because I didn’t want the hassle of all the design flaws you taught me how to overcome.
I enjoyed watching this can get taken apart and made useful. Nothing complex just an enjoyable modification that makes things work. Good job!
Thank you Russell! It was fun to figure out. Thank you for watching and for joining the conversation!
So happy to my government so concerned about the really important issues!
I just found a different explanation for the "filter" inside the tank.
I saw on another channel that was testing Flow Rates, durability and spill management on a LOT of gas cans. The filter is a Flame Mitigation Devise. Back in the 1800's a Coal Miners lamp (candle or oil) had a metal mesh around the flame. When gas released in the coal mine - It could have a massive explosion the caused the loss of many miners. With the mesh in place - the flame inside would get much brighter but the flame would NOT pass through the mesh. So, if someone was crazy enough to check the level in the gas can by using a lit match (of open flame), the fumes would catch and travel into the gas can but would not be able to go through the mesh and violently explode all the gas fumes inside the gas can.