The principal target from the EPA mandate was to stop the daily venting of ozone from normal outdoor weather temperature fluctuations and fuel pump transfers. Reducing gasoline spills was a secondary goal. The best idea that I ever saw was to connect a tube with a balloon to an airtight fuel can and permit the balloon to inflate and deflate with temperature fluctuations. If done right, vapors would be contained and low positive pressure would keep humidity from contaminating the gasoline, instead of watching fuel cans inflate and distort under pressure.
Agree about adding those yellow vents. I have added vents to at least 10 gas cans, only one slightly split on the seam, a solder gun helps fix that, but good idea to not drill on the seam. EPA is not just bothered about spills, so no vent, they don't want even the vapors escaping from the cans, from say the vent not being closed by the user. Another bad thing about plastic cans, there is a camphor shot borer insect the eats 1/8" round holes in plastic cans, I have had almost every tank perforated by those bugs, they also eat holes in generators fuel tanks. The plastic is too thin, bug can smell the ethanol. They also eat holes clear through rubber fuel lines, and even the hard plastic nozzles. I was thinking of putting all my cans into plastic leaf bags to try and keep them away. I fixed all the little holes using a solder gun and a small one-gallon Blitz can to cut small strips as plastic welding rod material. The generator tanks, I used a black oil bottle HDPE, for patching the holes. You really need to add some filler plastic to fill the holes, and it takes some skill too.
every member of congress should be required to use an epa can to fill a piece of lawn care equipment so they can figure out that brain dead actions have real consequences
Another Dave no they need to have it shoved up their rectum while being hung upside down, and remember that you have to forcefully catch that tab while inserting. Ah yes we have finally found a good use for a congressman! I truly believe that we would start seeing decent usable new gas cans within a week! Remember there is a better can out there we just need congress to approve it.
@Karen Schumer You do know you are talking about republicans dont you? No, we're not. This was the fucking Obama EPA that did this shit, along with all the other insane bullshit they did. Nice try.
the only time I spilled gasoline was because of one of these cans . A full 6 gallon is heavy, and with those spout you cant firmly hold it with two hands because you have to press the darn thing
and it's not just the specific angle you need that makes it difficult, the fuel flows out so slowly that your arms or fingers fatigue from holding awkward positions so long. it usually takes 2-4 repositionings to dumpt the entire can.
Thanks, I modified mine too except cut the end part to seal the cover part up. On the vent, I inserted and super glued an "adjustable irrigation drippers sprinklers" on mine... I have it on hand and you can close or open the head to allow air too. LOL
I've seen other suggestions for how to fix a new gas can. Everything from adding a piece of flexible tubing to replacing the whole thing with an aftermarket spout. The cheapest was about $3.00. Your idea is free, except for the vent. It works better even without the vent, but with a vent it pours much smoother and faster. I'm trying to figure out how to make a vent for free. Actually the vent is free, just drill a hole. A free vent cover is what I'm looking for.
if you just twist the white end part you cut off, it comes right out surprisingly easy. Then you can remove the spring. takes like 10 seconds and is reversible should you ever want to (why is beyond me...)
Ya gotta go to Mexico to get a working gas can off-the-shelf, no modification necessary. U. S. "Safety Approved" cans UN-SAFE, lol. Spilling gas every time you use the over-engineered spout totally negates any 'vapor recovery' , haha
Don't knock "a box of rocks," there could be intelligent life. The EPA since the advent of these ventless cans definitely no signs promoting any necessity for the future endeavor in a search for an actual presence of intelligent life within that agency. No doubt about it I have been there myself with the expanding fuel can only to find out once I had arrived at my destination the pour spout's "cap" had shot off at some point during the 20-mile drive. What's worse is the ventless cans don't need to be in direct sunlight before ballooning into a basketball. Only in theoretical applications do these cans meet expectations. Practical applications prior to altering the spout are limited to storage purposes only, no pouring, just siphoning. As for the removal of the vent, oy.
I sort of agree with you because these gas cans are hell annoying. But I will admit I've had these gas cans rolling around my trunk falling on their sides picking them back up in every which angle and they never spilled a drop in my car.
@@1D10CRACY There are several if you search youtube, and amazon. Here's one www.amazon.com/Replacement-Spout-Water-Update-Your/dp/B00CYNDNM8/ref=asc_df_B00CYNDNM8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198095726143&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15987278530967098526&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009683&hvtargid=pla-349466156290&psc=1 And this guy like the new cans and says they finally seem to work well and actually do what they were supposed to do in the first place which is help prevent spills which pollute and could be a fire hazard.. czcams.com/video/EwkYHm_T5-I/video.html This guy tests several, and points out some would work well for equipment but not necessarily cars. But I'll be honest with you. In 42 years I have never run out of fuel on the road in any vehicle I have ever driven. And anyone that doesn't maybe should be driving, much less trying to fill gas cans or they vehicle on the side of the road with a gas can of any sort! I'm sorry but pull your head out of that dark hole and pay attention! czcams.com/video/_EGCn0xQ3kI/video.html Video on here demos stop flow feature even in a shot glass. And has nice view stripes to see how full it is.www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9JN4S/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=markthomasbui-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000W9JN4S&linkId=f0d189a4c28c14682d101ee4c5818d0d And you can buy just the nozzles, but what it fits who knows. Be nice if cans and nozzles came with thread sizes. www.acehardware.com/departments/lawn-and-garden/outdoor-power-equipment/gas-can-spout/7439987?x429=true&gclid=CjwKCAjw5_DsBRBPEiwAIEDRW4pds3pHJ99-1ulvHkoLOKTY-tK7ZvOV2yJYEh9YX3mdEOR1ovGnoBoCArYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
@@1D10CRACY Check out the price for those ready made easy spouts. Your modification works just as good or better and it's free, except for the vent. I'm trying to figure out how to make a free vent.
1D10CRACY FYI it is not there to protect you, it is there to keep the fuel fumes from getting into the atmosphere. That is why if you do not tighten the gas cap on an OBD II vehicle it will more than likely set a Trouble code: P0456 Evaporative Emissions System leak. The EVAP system is there to prevent those fuel fumes from entering the atmosphere.
So, what keeps the cans from expanding in the heat and exploding without a vent? Cars that have the EVAP system also have a pressure relief valve that allows the air to vent through a charcoal container when the pressure becomes to excessive.
1D10CRACY In the video you said, "I can protect myself from myself, I don't need the EPA to protect myself". You also state, "It seems so gosh darn ignorant that someone would say, we need ventless gas cans because we might spill our gas cans." All I am saying is those are not the reason for the ventless gas cans. I am not saying that I like these gas cans as I agree they are difficult to use. I am just trying to point out why they are made ventless. No disrespect intended, just pointing out the facts.
... and when Mr. Authority stops you or visits your campsite and sees your non C.A.R.B., non EPA compliant can, he writes you a ticket. Ask me how I know. It's cheaper in the long run to buy a compliant metal gas can that is rated for fuel (not a Wavian that isn't).
The principal target from the EPA mandate was to stop the daily venting of ozone from normal outdoor weather temperature fluctuations and fuel pump transfers. Reducing gasoline spills was a secondary goal. The best idea that I ever saw was to connect a tube with a balloon to an airtight fuel can and permit the balloon to inflate and deflate with temperature fluctuations. If done right, vapors would be contained and low positive pressure would keep humidity from contaminating the gasoline, instead of watching fuel cans inflate and distort under pressure.
Now we just spill fuel and the spilled fuel evaporates into the air.
Amen
Amen, Bro! My exact sentiments on the EPA-mandated cans. I've a similar rant on my channel, but you've offered a solution and I love it!
Agree about adding those yellow vents. I have added vents to at least 10 gas cans, only one slightly split on the seam, a solder gun helps fix that, but good idea to not drill on the seam. EPA is not just bothered about spills, so no vent, they don't want even the vapors escaping from the cans, from say the vent not being closed by the user. Another bad thing about plastic cans, there is a camphor shot borer insect the eats 1/8" round holes in plastic cans, I have had almost every tank perforated by those bugs, they also eat holes in generators fuel tanks. The plastic is too thin, bug can smell the ethanol. They also eat holes clear through rubber fuel lines, and even the hard plastic nozzles. I was thinking of putting all my cans into plastic leaf bags to try and keep them away. I fixed all the little holes using a solder gun and a small one-gallon Blitz can to cut small strips as plastic welding rod material. The generator tanks, I used a black oil bottle HDPE, for patching the holes. You really need to add some filler plastic to fill the holes, and it takes some skill too.
every member of congress should be required to use an epa can to fill a piece of lawn care equipment so they can figure out that brain dead actions have real consequences
I've got other ideas for most of our gov't self serving goons. And it involves a striped suit.
Another Dave no they need to have it shoved up their rectum while being hung upside down, and remember that you have to forcefully catch that tab while inserting. Ah yes we have finally found a good use for a congressman!
I truly believe that we would start seeing decent usable new gas cans within a week! Remember there is a better can out there we just need congress to approve it.
@@fcaughli
A striped suit? Nahhhh.
Tar. And Feathers. And a Rail.
@Karen Schumer You do know you are talking about republicans dont you?
No, we're not. This was the fucking Obama EPA that did this shit, along with all the other insane bullshit they did.
Nice try.
the only time I spilled gasoline was because of one of these cans . A full 6 gallon is heavy, and with those spout you cant firmly hold it with two hands because you have to press the darn thing
That's how my new collection was. They were only good for storage only. Now my mod works. Gotta drill vents later
and it's not just the specific angle you need that makes it difficult, the fuel flows out so slowly that your arms or fingers fatigue from holding awkward positions so long. it usually takes 2-4 repositionings to dumpt the entire can.
Thanks, I modified mine too except cut the end part to seal the cover part up. On the vent, I inserted and super glued an "adjustable irrigation drippers sprinklers" on mine... I have it on hand and you can close or open the head to allow air too. LOL
Things always look good on paper
I've seen other suggestions for how to fix a new gas can. Everything from adding a piece of flexible tubing to replacing the whole thing with an aftermarket spout. The cheapest was about $3.00. Your idea is free, except for the vent. It works better even without the vent, but with a vent it pours much smoother and faster. I'm trying to figure out how to make a vent for free. Actually the vent is free, just drill a hole. A free vent cover is what I'm looking for.
if you just twist the white end part you cut off, it comes right out surprisingly easy. Then you can remove the spring. takes like 10 seconds and is reversible should you ever want to (why is beyond me...)
I hate all the 2009+ spouts. So dumb. EZ-Pour spouts best I found. Just wish they cost less.
"I hate it, and I hate it bad"!!! Awesome. I got to use that at work tomorrow! Lol. Great vid!
I completely agree that is a stupidest design anybody has ever came up with for a gas can. 😡💩
Ya gotta go to Mexico to get a working gas can off-the-shelf, no modification necessary. U. S. "Safety Approved" cans UN-SAFE, lol. Spilling gas every time you use the over-engineered spout totally negates any 'vapor recovery' , haha
Don't knock "a box of rocks," there could be intelligent life. The EPA since the advent of these ventless cans definitely no signs promoting any necessity for the future endeavor in a search for an actual presence of intelligent life within that agency.
No doubt about it I have been there myself with the expanding fuel can only to find out once I had arrived at my destination the pour spout's "cap" had shot off at some point during the 20-mile drive. What's worse is the ventless cans don't need to be in direct sunlight before ballooning into a basketball. Only in theoretical applications do these cans meet expectations. Practical applications prior to altering the spout are limited to storage purposes only, no pouring, just siphoning. As for the removal of the vent, oy.
Thank you!
I hate today's gas cans so I equipped my gas can with a valve stem for a tire
I sort of agree with you because these gas cans are hell annoying. But I will admit I've had these gas cans rolling around my trunk falling on their sides picking them back up in every which angle and they never spilled a drop in my car.
Any suggestions on keeping the plastic bits, generated during the drilling process, out of the can or removing them?
Yea, turn the can upside down and shake them out,,, MORON!
awesome video!! Great sense of humor as well 😂
I bought a new gas can today. I'm a grown woman and not strong enough to work the spout.
It's going back tomorrow. Ridiculous!
They sell easier to use spouts and vent several places online these days. The spout mod you did here doesn't really seem secure to me.
Could you post Links to the details? I would love to see what your talking about!
@@1D10CRACY There are several if you search youtube, and amazon. Here's one
www.amazon.com/Replacement-Spout-Water-Update-Your/dp/B00CYNDNM8/ref=asc_df_B00CYNDNM8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198095726143&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15987278530967098526&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009683&hvtargid=pla-349466156290&psc=1
And this guy like the new cans and says they finally seem to work well and actually do what they were supposed to do in the first place which is help prevent spills which pollute and could be a fire hazard..
czcams.com/video/EwkYHm_T5-I/video.html
This guy tests several, and points out some would work well for equipment but not necessarily cars. But I'll be honest with you. In 42 years I have never run out of fuel on the road in any vehicle I have ever driven. And anyone that doesn't maybe should be driving, much less trying to fill gas cans or they vehicle on the side of the road with a gas can of any sort! I'm sorry but pull your head out of that dark hole and pay attention!
czcams.com/video/_EGCn0xQ3kI/video.html
Video on here demos stop flow feature even in a shot glass. And has nice view stripes to see how full it is.www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9JN4S/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=markthomasbui-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000W9JN4S&linkId=f0d189a4c28c14682d101ee4c5818d0d
And you can buy just the nozzles, but what it fits who knows. Be nice if cans and nozzles came with thread sizes.
www.acehardware.com/departments/lawn-and-garden/outdoor-power-equipment/gas-can-spout/7439987?x429=true&gclid=CjwKCAjw5_DsBRBPEiwAIEDRW4pds3pHJ99-1ulvHkoLOKTY-tK7ZvOV2yJYEh9YX3mdEOR1ovGnoBoCArYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
@@1D10CRACY Check out the price for those ready made easy spouts. Your modification works just as good or better and it's free, except for the vent. I'm trying to figure out how to make a free vent.
just buy a utility jug from any racing shop, or amazon, etc .....problem solved
$38 to fix a problem we didn't cause.
Just not a fan of the vent when its cold or they get deformed.
Can anyone just sell me 2 vent caps? I just need 2, maybe 3 if I break one
1D10CRACY FYI it is not there to protect you, it is there to keep the fuel fumes from getting into the atmosphere. That is why if you do not tighten the gas cap on an OBD II vehicle it will more than likely set a Trouble code: P0456 Evaporative Emissions System leak. The EVAP system is there to prevent those fuel fumes from entering the atmosphere.
So, what keeps the cans from expanding in the heat and exploding without a vent? Cars that have the EVAP system also have a pressure relief valve that allows the air to vent through a charcoal container when the pressure becomes to excessive.
1D10CRACY In the video you said, "I can protect myself from myself, I don't need the EPA to protect myself". You also state, "It seems so gosh darn ignorant that someone would say, we need ventless gas cans because we might spill our gas cans." All I am saying is those are not the reason for the ventless gas cans. I am not saying that I like these gas cans as I agree they are difficult to use. I am just trying to point out why they are made ventless. No disrespect intended, just pointing out the facts.
I follow you now, all good points. Thank you for clearing that up. I honestly thought it was so we couldn't spill them.
... and when Mr. Authority stops you or visits your campsite and sees your non C.A.R.B., non EPA compliant can, he writes you a ticket. Ask me how I know. It's cheaper in the long run to buy a compliant metal gas can that is rated for fuel (not a Wavian that isn't).
Yup. And thats why you don't take them camping, especially in states like California. LOL
That's why you stay away from California.