Savage also sells a bolt lift barring kit. Makes the bolt lift a lot more smooth. I installed one on my buddies savage 308 that was having troubles with bolt stick. Hasn’t had a problem since.
I've been reloading for about 2 years or so and I've been told that more money better your results and quality, for me it's about the joy of creating your own load for your gun will love and being accurate to take game with a load that you created for your gun videos keep them coming 👍
I love my 6.5 PRC!! Shoots teeny tiny bug holes! Browning X-bolt Hells Canyon Long Range, 153gr Hornady A-tips, 156 Berger Elite Hunters. Both shoot same hole, very similar trajectories out to 1768 yards. Most accurate factory gun I’ve ever bought. Nice shooting!
Awesome groups with that Savage! People hate on them but mine are easy to load for and always consistent. My Bergara 6.5 PRC likes IMR 4831 with the 140,143 and 147 gr bullets, cci 250 primers and hornady brass. Usually single digit S.Ds,speeds around 2950-3000 fps and sub moa accuracy to 1k yds. I'd love to see a video on the 156 gr Berger EOL and retumbo. Thanks Johnny for all the knowledge! You are one of the best sources for all things reloading.
I gave Retumbo a go for the first time a couple years ago in my 7mm Rem Mag and am extremely impressed and happy with performance using 160-162 bullets. I decided that it was just a repackaged or upgraded H1000 for all these years and just didn't try. But when my other favorite powders were no where to be found I picked up some Retumbo. I am glad I did. Great groups my friend. Thank you so much.
Great video! Also great to see how you have advanced over the years! I sort my hornady's by ogive length, which helps with some lot#. With some of the bullets, an OAL that is barely touching the lands helps shrink the groups down to a single bullet hole, but it is trial and error with every barrel. I avoid Nosler brass due to how soft it is. All of my 6.5s love the Hornady 140g bthp, and it is a good hog killing bullet! Come hell or high water, I find out what is a max load for that particular barrel, so I know where NOT to go.
Very nice shooting. I always have good luck with the Hornady BTHP in all my calibers. & I use nothing but Hodgdon powders. My local store carrys these.
Great video. Love to see a video with 6.5 prc and H4831sc. RL26 and retumbo are hard to come by in good times. I’ve seen lots of groups and forums recommending H4831sc as a go to powder for this cartridge.
Awesome video as always. I look forward to the uploads. I am really interested in the take things out of storage series. I also really enjoy the other channel. Hopefully we can get a update on the pigs and chickens. We are raising cornish cross for meat. It's been a fun experience.
Would love to see you play with a 7mm-08. Hopefully mine gets back from preffered barrel blanks sometime within the month and I can start playing around with loads for it. Planning on starting with 140gr bergers and imr4985 and staball 6.5
Retumbo is my favorite magnum powder for 28 Nosler. I combine it with 168 grain Nosler AccuBond LR bullets for a deadly accurate, spot on hard hitting round.
I only have a 6.5 Swede but the caliber is awesome. maybe one day I will jump into another 6.5. Really liking the 6 ARC. Think that may be my next "New" cartridge.
Funny the one I have doesn’t shoot for shit. And hence why I only have one... Probably because it’s an Axis. But that rifle has pretty well sworn me off savage. I’ve seen other Axis rifles, and more commonly the 110 rifles shoot much better. But I still won’t buy another Savage rifle. Too many other rifles with better quality and accuracy at similar price points
Nice work. I will try some Retum. in my Sako S20 with Peterson brass. Overlaying all three Hornady brass groups would be a very respectable 15 round group.
Nice work as always. Shannon. I'm have tough time. My 243win loads first handloads did realy well stayball. But my 300blk loads with lilgun different story 110gr high pressure at just over minam loads and my 150gr cast load show black on case neck so think low pressure or just weird pressure bc primers not flat as 110gr those load just min for 150 also . I drop the video to different range report and separate shooting video. In got issue with gun 300blk I got work on $2 spring got to week
I know it’s an old video, but buy a 300 PRC full length die Lee. Then remove expander ball. Size the case. Then bump shoulder back with 6.5 PRC die .002 and gets rid of the heavy bolt lift.
I just picked up 100 pieces of nosler brass for the 7mm rem mag. I wander if I will be having the same problem. I just finished loading the first 30 round. I will let you know how it goes. The brass seems very consistent. Love the videos been fishing to much I need to go back a few videos and catch up
Do you have any new videos on grendel I am wanting to use 140gr bthp match nosler but can just find one loading data in my speer book. 0 in my nosler book and 0 in my loading app any help on where I could find some more information would like two to 3 more to compare them then see what I can go with loading up with CFE223 if I can
Nice video. Not sure that Nosler brass is worth the price. I bought some and they are inconsistent in length and come short new out of the box, below trim length... Not saying they are not prepped but they come in a bag packaged cheaply. I just got some Peterson Brass that did cost me the same price but it's prep and quality far surpassed the Nosler and came packaged in a plastic ammo box with foam rubber protection on the top of the box. I won't be buying anymore Nosler. I do have some Hornady on back order that I will still get so I can compare the 3. I have used Hornady in the past. It is good for its price range but does need a bit more going over for prep. I did like the results from your Rotumbo test loads and accuracy far outweighs 50 fps which is a wash at the speeds those bullets are travelling anyway. Again, nice video.
Just got a 280 Ackley. I can't wait to get reloading and shooting that rifle. Wasn't a great shooter with the factory ammo I have. But it's 140 accubonds never had much luck with those bullets and being. Great shooters good enough to hunt with for sure but not match accuracy any advice on where to start with powders have e 150 and 162 eldx bullets and 160 partitions. Was thinking rl23 and h1000.
@@hawaiiangunner yea, I got cratered primers and sticky bolt at the mid-range of published data. Had to back down to minimums. Eventually ended up using Reloder 26 anyway because I got better accuracy.
Why use RETUMBO for such a small cartridge, and a medium light bullet?? When Velocity windows with H4831SC, H1000, N560, & N565 are very liberal? I don't understand the efforts so many people are pushing with the super slow burning powders which are best suited for 75g and larger magnum cartridges.
Just ran across this. Wondering who you mugged to find Retumbo. I’ve been looking for well over a year. May get lucky on a trip to Idaho or Montana on it or H1000.
Retumbo is such a great powder, but not the ideal powder for 6.5PRC. Run Retumbo in something like 300 Weatherby, 300 Jarrett, 300 Norma, or 300 RUM and it really shines.
You shot some beautiful groups using this combo! Nice work! How long is the barrel on this rifle? I ask because with my 6.5CR shooting 147gr Hornadys and H4350 has a 28" barrel, I am burning off my charge too early. I have considered taking a step to a slower burn rate or just taking 2" off of the barrel. I hear very good things about Retumbo and am considering it for this rifle. Thanks!
Thanks Joe. I ran Retumbo and h4831sc through Gordon's reloading tool and you are absolutely right. Retumbo projected burn rate is too slow. H4831sc pressure curve looks much better. We'll give it a shot!
I too have had problems with Redding full length sizer and switched to a neck only bushing die that would hold no better than .004"tir. My best has been 140 Hornaday or 142 SMK both at .320 group. With somewhere around .035 jump and reloader 25. Next up is going to be 144 Berger vs 150 SMK and Reloader 26.
I have question about reloading can we reloa .17 hornet and if so who would sell bullets anyway great video 6.5 looks good but I have feelings for. Hornet ok tanx
Yes u can reload 17 hornet dies are high bullets are about 19.99 a box of 100 brass is hard to get a ammo is even harder to find its 60.00 a box of 25 now
You'll run out of case capacity well before you you hit max pressure. 60.5gr will still be safe. Retumbo gives up 150 FPS RE26 and H1000 due to burn rate and bulk density.
You've either got a long barrel or you found the perfect powder....otherwise you must be pushing the pressure well over the recommended to be getting those speeds from a much smaller case.
I was thinking the same thing. My creed gets 2825/sd of 7 with the 142 SMK w/ a 24” barrel. But he does have some more room and the RL26 will give more velocity
What’s the CBTO that goes along with your OAL? Thanks for the content. I finally got some primers, (cci br2) so looking forward to loading 6.5 prc with the Norma brass I’m collecting from factory loads. I’ve got ramshot LRT but it has a burn rate close to retumbo.
Great to see such good groups with the economy projectiles. Can't complain about that trip to the range.
Savage also sells a bolt lift barring kit. Makes the bolt lift a lot more smooth. I installed one on my buddies savage 308 that was having troubles with bolt stick. Hasn’t had a problem since.
"Don't screw it up" had me chuckling, thanks for another great upload.
I love these kinds of test.. perfect viewing also.. thanks man!!😊
Holy cow!
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Those groups were freaking AMAZING!
Great shooting and fantastic work.
Awesome...
I replayed that .34 group several times.
Just AMAZING
I've been reloading for about 2 years or so and I've been told that more money better your results and quality, for me it's about the joy of creating your own load for your gun will love and being accurate to take game with a load that you created for your gun videos keep them coming 👍
I love my 6.5 PRC!! Shoots teeny tiny bug holes! Browning X-bolt Hells Canyon Long Range, 153gr Hornady A-tips, 156 Berger Elite Hunters. Both shoot same hole, very similar trajectories out to 1768 yards. Most accurate factory gun I’ve ever bought. Nice shooting!
Awesome groups with that Savage! People hate on them but mine are easy to load for and always consistent. My Bergara 6.5 PRC likes IMR 4831 with the 140,143 and 147 gr bullets, cci 250 primers and hornady brass. Usually single digit S.Ds,speeds around 2950-3000 fps and sub moa accuracy to 1k yds. I'd love to see a video on the 156 gr Berger EOL and retumbo. Thanks Johnny for all the knowledge! You are one of the best sources for all things reloading.
Great video! Happy to see the Retumbo make an appearance. Retumbo and H1000 definitely give the best groups for my setup.
I gave Retumbo a go for the first time a couple years ago in my 7mm Rem Mag and am extremely impressed and happy with performance using 160-162 bullets.
I decided that it was just a repackaged or upgraded H1000 for all these years and just didn't try. But when my other favorite powders were no where to be found I picked up some Retumbo. I am glad I did. Great groups my friend. Thank you so much.
recently ordered from Norma for my 300W/M brass their inventory isn’t bad as others and decently priced
Very nice groups with both brass company's . Likely can't beat them . That's a wicked nice rifle 🥂👍🏁
You always produce great informative videos. ...thank you.
Great video! Also great to see how you have advanced over the years! I sort my hornady's by ogive length, which helps with some lot#. With some of the bullets, an OAL that is barely touching the lands helps shrink the groups down to a single bullet hole, but it is trial and error with every barrel.
I avoid Nosler brass due to how soft it is.
All of my 6.5s love the Hornady 140g bthp, and it is a good hog killing bullet!
Come hell or high water, I find out what is a max load for that particular barrel, so I know where NOT to go.
Very nice shooting.
I always have good luck with the Hornady BTHP in all my calibers.
& I use nothing but Hodgdon powders.
My local store carrys these.
Great video. Love to see a video with 6.5 prc and H4831sc. RL26 and retumbo are hard to come by in good times. I’ve seen lots of groups and forums recommending H4831sc as a go to powder for this cartridge.
4831sc for 130 and lighter bullets, H1000/Retumbo for the heavies
Thanks for the load work up ,enjoyed
Awesome video as always. I look forward to the uploads. I am really interested in the take things out of storage series. I also really enjoy the other channel. Hopefully we can get a update on the pigs and chickens. We are raising cornish cross for meat. It's been a fun experience.
Happy 4TH buddy! Hope all is well, been wondering how you were doing. Take care, God bless! 🙏🎚🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Would love to see you play with a 7mm-08. Hopefully mine gets back from preffered barrel blanks sometime within the month and I can start playing around with loads for it. Planning on starting with 140gr bergers and imr4985 and staball 6.5
You found some magic.
Those groups where Awesome. They were very Impressive
You made this load development look easy
Retumbo is my favorite magnum powder for 28 Nosler. I combine it with 168 grain Nosler AccuBond LR bullets for a deadly accurate, spot on hard hitting round.
I only have a 6.5 Swede but the caliber is awesome. maybe one day I will jump into another 6.5. Really liking the 6 ARC. Think that may be my next "New" cartridge.
People talk a lot of smack about the savage rifles, but every one I have shoots amazing, and seems yours does too!
Everyone I have shoots extremely well
Funny the one I have doesn’t shoot for shit. And hence why I only have one...
Probably because it’s an Axis. But that rifle has pretty well sworn me off savage. I’ve seen other Axis rifles, and more commonly the 110 rifles shoot much better. But I still won’t buy another Savage rifle. Too many other rifles with better quality and accuracy at similar price points
Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
My 6.5 prc shoots this bullet really well. I am using h1000 .030 off lands. For a 5 shot .280 inch group. Sd of 9, 2950 fps.
Happy Independence Day
Nice work. I will try some Retum. in my Sako S20 with Peterson brass. Overlaying all three Hornady brass groups would be a very respectable 15 round group.
Wow, .34" group. Crazy good shootin man!
Looking good. You know you'll have to break out the cheap and easy to load for 6.5 CM to give a side by side!
PS between you fortune cookie 45 and ultimate reloader has given me some valuable insights
nice group, cannot wait for your 8.6 blackout videos :p
Great shooting!
Thanks for the videos 👍🏾
I'd be interested to see measured case capacity between the two kinds of brass... Happy you got such great groups.
A huge positive was that the velocities were very consistent
Nice work as always. Shannon. I'm have tough time. My 243win loads first handloads did realy well stayball. But my 300blk loads with lilgun different story 110gr high pressure at just over minam loads and my 150gr cast load show black on case neck so think low pressure or just weird pressure bc primers not flat as 110gr those load just min for 150 also . I drop the video to different range report and separate shooting video. In got issue with gun 300blk I got work on $2 spring got to week
laser beams heck fire yeah love it
Nice shooting !!!
I know it’s an old video, but buy a 300 PRC full length die Lee. Then remove expander ball. Size the case. Then bump shoulder back with 6.5 PRC die .002 and gets rid of the heavy bolt lift.
I'm looking at getting some of the Barnes 127gr LRX for my 6.5 swedish, I bet that'd crank out of this 6.5 PRC.
I just picked up 100 pieces of nosler brass for the 7mm rem mag. I wander if I will be having the same problem. I just finished loading the first 30 round. I will let you know how it goes. The brass seems very consistent. Love the videos been fishing to much I need to go back a few videos and catch up
Nosler brass is Hornadys factory seconds.
I would really like to see the Grendel type bullets and powder, for example 123 gr SST bullets and IMR 8208. should be a screamer.
Do you have any new videos on grendel I am wanting to use 140gr bthp match nosler but can just find one loading data in my speer book. 0 in my nosler book and 0 in my loading app any help on where I could find some more information would like two to 3 more to compare them then see what I can go with loading up with CFE223 if I can
.076 moa is crazy good for that gun!
My 6.5x284 runs 58 gr of Retumbo that is lights out
Nice video. Not sure that Nosler brass is worth the price. I bought some and they are inconsistent in length and come short new out of the box, below trim length... Not saying they are not prepped but they come in a bag packaged cheaply. I just got some Peterson Brass that did cost me the same price but it's prep and quality far surpassed the Nosler and came packaged in a plastic ammo box with foam rubber protection on the top of the box. I won't be buying anymore Nosler. I do have some Hornady on back order that I will still get so I can compare the 3. I have used Hornady in the past. It is good for its price range but does need a bit more going over for prep. I did like the results from your Rotumbo test loads and accuracy far outweighs 50 fps which is a wash at the speeds those bullets are travelling anyway. Again, nice video.
Ernesto, did you mix up the seating depths? It’s weird that the best group was long in one type of brass, and short in the other. Hmmm… 🤔
You have to full length resize all 6.5 PRC brass from my experience
Just got a 280 Ackley. I can't wait to get reloading and shooting that rifle. Wasn't a great shooter with the factory ammo I have. But it's 140 accubonds never had much luck with those bullets and being. Great shooters good enough to hunt with for sure but not match accuracy any advice on where to start with powders have e 150 and 162 eldx bullets and 160 partitions. Was thinking rl23 and h1000.
I upvoted before the video started, I hope that's ok... :-)
6.5 PRC? Ive been shooting quite a while & I love it..Im waiting on you to do one on 7PRC..
Norma lapua an hornady brass are my favorite nosler brass has it's ups and downs damn good groups jrb. 👏
I found the published Retumbo data for 6.5 PRC to be too hot in my rifle.
I was using Hornady brass and Fed Match Primers
Wow retumbo is such a slow powder. Good to know! Ty!
@@hawaiiangunner yea, I got cratered primers and sticky bolt at the mid-range of published data. Had to back down to minimums. Eventually ended up using Reloder 26 anyway because I got better accuracy.
My guess is not so much what brass as it is neck tension with said brass.
That rifle shoot pretty good, any future project with the (tikka 308) do you change the stock ? O did load development on 165 or 168 load,Thanks
Where did you find some Retumbo this day and age?
Why use RETUMBO for such a small cartridge, and a medium light bullet??
When Velocity windows with H4831SC, H1000, N560, & N565 are very liberal?
I don't understand the efforts so many people are pushing with the super slow burning powders which are best suited for 75g and larger magnum cartridges.
Any H1000 and the Nosler 142 Grn ALR ?
Just ran across this. Wondering who you mugged to find Retumbo. I’ve been looking for well over a year. May get lucky on a trip to Idaho or Montana on it or H1000.
Retumbo is such a great powder, but not the ideal powder for 6.5PRC. Run Retumbo in something like 300 Weatherby, 300 Jarrett, 300 Norma, or 300 RUM and it really shines.
I prefer to load H1000 or Reloader 26 for 6.5 prc, but I haven’t been able to find it in two years. I have seen Retumbo recently though.
Retumbo will be perfect 140 grn or heavier pills
What company makes the target system you are using? Super cool tool.
Hey “Johnny”, don’t be afraid of bigger jumps…
You shot some beautiful groups using this combo! Nice work! How long is the barrel on this rifle? I ask because with my 6.5CR shooting 147gr Hornadys and H4350 has a 28" barrel, I am burning off my charge too early. I have considered taking a step to a slower burn rate or just taking 2" off of the barrel. I hear very good things about Retumbo and am considering it for this rifle. Thanks!
I doubt you will be able to squeeze enough Retumbo in a 6.5CM case to get the velocities you seek. I could be wrong. You might try H4831SC though.
Thanks Joe. I ran Retumbo and h4831sc through Gordon's reloading tool and you are absolutely right. Retumbo projected burn rate is too slow. H4831sc pressure curve looks much better. We'll give it a shot!
What do you think of the upcoming 7 PRC? PLEASE tell me you are going to do some reloading work with it
I love the videos please keep them coming , have you tried the 204 ruger any?
I wish I could find Retumbo, haven’t seen it in about a year or so. H1000 is the same.
WHERE ARE YOU AT JOHNNY?.....
I too have had problems with Redding full length sizer and switched to a neck only bushing die that would hold no better than .004"tir. My best has been 140 Hornaday or 142 SMK both at .320 group. With somewhere around .035 jump and reloader 25. Next up is going to be 144 Berger vs 150 SMK and Reloader 26.
great vid as usual do you ever see ur self getting a 6.8 western and loading for it
I have question about reloading can we reloa .17 hornet and if so who would sell bullets anyway great video 6.5 looks good but I have feelings for. Hornet ok tanx
Yes u can reload 17 hornet dies are high bullets are about 19.99 a box of 100 brass is hard to get a ammo is even harder to find its 60.00 a box of 25 now
What is the difference between 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 PRC?
About 200 fps
About 200. -350 fps
You'll run out of case capacity well before you you hit max pressure. 60.5gr will still be safe. Retumbo gives up 150 FPS RE26 and H1000 due to burn rate and bulk density.
How far off the lands are you at the 2.930 length ?
Got it.
how far did he say..response looks to be removed
Is 6.5 PRC considered a barrel eater?
Yes, it’s rough on a barrel. Expect about 1200-1500 rounds for useable barrel life.
Have you thought of trying, Ramshot LRT?
Creedmore magnum
Creedmoor
Heck, my 6.5 creedmoor shoot the 140 eld-m at2850., why get a6.5 prc if it only going to to shoot 90 ft faster.
You've either got a long barrel or you found the perfect powder....otherwise you must be pushing the pressure well over the recommended to be getting those speeds from a much smaller case.
I was thinking the same thing. My creed gets 2825/sd of 7 with the 142 SMK w/ a 24” barrel. But he does have some more room and the RL26 will give more velocity
I’m running the 153Atips at 3150 from my 6.5PRC, 140s are going 3200+, that’s from a 26” barrel. Creed won’t hit those numbers even from a 28-30”.
What’s the CBTO that goes along with your OAL? Thanks for the content. I finally got some primers, (cci br2) so looking forward to loading 6.5 prc with the Norma brass I’m collecting from factory loads. I’ve got ramshot LRT but it has a burn rate close to retumbo.
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Let's go Brandon
Man doesn't that shit piss you off though.. one brass groups great at 2.910 and the other at 2.930. Seems like that happens to me all the time
Toss out the RELOADER 26
Todays powder should be your go to!
Why are you considering or worried about what sierra's data says when you're not using their bullets?
Every single time you say "don't screw it up" you screw it up. STOP SAYING THAT!