6.5 PRC Load Development: Bergara Wilderness HMR
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In this article, I'll cover my first load development steps for 6.5 PRC specifically for the Bergara Wilderness HMR- some great results!
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Gavin, your videos are top notch. Your video titles and thumbnails say exactly what's in the video. Zero clickbait and no filler. Truly professional work.
Lapua just announced they will offer 6.5 prc brass.
I’ve been using Berger’s 140vld in my 6.5prc and I put a baseball size hole through a 200lb hog the other day and although I have minimal reloading experience I was really impressed with how the 140 VLD’s did
Gavin, I just want to commend you on the exceptional video content you continually provide. Being a fellow reloader, I know the amount work (time) that goes into reloading ammo. I can't imagine all the extra effort it takes on your part to film and edit videos, build a cabin, do machining, etc. etc. It is clear you are a very diligent and hard worker, and I appreciate the time and effort you put in to giving us great content. Thanks for all you do.
Thank you thank you thank you, I appreciate your words of support. It’s true, there is so much work that goes into this content, but I do love doing it.
@@Ultimatereloader And boy aren’t we all glad that you do love it 😀👍
142 Nosler ABLR is a wicked hunting round! Give it a try. I use em in my Bergara PRC and the 175 ABLR in my 7mm Rem Mag.
instablaster.
For your 6.5 PRC, I’d recommend trying out either the 153gr Hornady A-Tips, or the 156gr Berger EOL’s...👍👍 For long range shooting and/or hunting, they should be money!👌
The 156 Berger EOL has been killer for me with the PRC and hunting.
My rifle as 1:8 twist and can't stabilize more than ~147gr bullets at longer ranges.
@@qedsteve I don’t have the problem at altitude.
@@jetthreat5000 I live in Puno in South Peru @3750m above See and I thinking about getting a License here, I think 1-8 would do fine with the 156 here😜
Thanks for the great 6.5 PRC video. I have been reloading for over 30 years and I always learn helpful tips from your videos. Please keep the 6.5 PRC info coming. I just got a SAKO S20 Hunter in 6.5 PRC and so far it shoots amazing. Thanks for the video Gavin and keep it coming sir.
Great video bro!! Been sorting through so many reloading videos and I just want to thank you for getting to the point and showing exactly what you used!
More 6.5 PRC please
Thank you for the tips as always UR
love 6.5 PRC..Great Video Gavin
I have not seen a better video on load development showing reloading technique. thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Love to see you try the ablr . Thanks
I have been using the ADG brass in my PRC for about a years now seems to be really good brass accept it require anealling regularly. Reloader26 is an amazing powder for the 6.5 PRC and I have been using heavy target bullets with excellent performance. Seems to me in my 1-7 twist barrel that 57.5 grains of powder is the winning ticket or right at 3140fps has been great results with 150 sierra, 153.5 Berger, 153 Atip and the 144 grain Berger HBLR this same charge with H1000 was also just as good. CCI 250 primer has also been a work horse here. Thank you for the information
Nice group thanks Gavin fun to load your own 👍
Love that Bergara HMR 6.5 PRC!
Please keep the prc stuff coming. Just got one and loving it, have the 140s loaded ready for Colorado but only at .9 moa. Need some help
Bullet suggestion: 127gr Barnes LRX and let it fly.
Awesome hunting bullet. Monolithic , Partition/A-Frame, and bonded are the best way to go.
I shot a mule deer the other day with that bullet out of my 6.5 PRC going 3230 FPS and it dropped where it stood. Love that bullet
I was just going to type this exactly! I got .5 MOA in my 6.5mm Rem Mag with 120 gr Barnes TTSX.
Gavin, I have watched hours of your videos. You got me into reloading. I use a Browning xbolt Max LR in 6.5 prc. Thank you for all your videos and info. I would like to see you try the Norma bondstrike 143 gr for hunting. Really high bc bullets!
I did a custom build 6.5PRC (stiller Tac30, Bartline barrel 1:8 24”, I have had good luck with Berger 140, 147ELDM, and Nosler RDF 140gr. I love seeing what other people are using because there isn’t a lot out there other than just the book.
I just bought some us 869 it's a ball powder can't wait to try it out.in my 6.5 prc
The hammer hunter bullets are lathe turned solid copper thats designed to shed the front part of the bullet and the shank pushes through kinda like a berger and barnes hybrid a really good accurate hunting bullet read up on them they are impressive
Cutting Edge! Supposed to be badass
I'm currently testing 145gr Barnes Match Burners very high bc with US869 and once fired Norma brass. Great case fill, great velocity, very low es and sd. Still adjusting seating depth for group size.
My rifle is a Savage 110 action with a 27" non contoured Preferred Barrel.
Patriot Valley Arms has a 122gr monolithic hunting bullet that looks very interesting. The 6.5 is 122gr so it's light for the cartridge but would be very interesting at the velocity you could push it.
Hey Gavin, I am using Nosler Accubond LR in 150 gr for my Custom Tikka 6.5 PRC and am getting very good results. Took the first moose with it last year, 1 shot at about 200 yards and it minced the lungs and liver. I am using 61.0 gr MagPro, Lapua Brass, Fed 210 primer with 2 thousandths neck tension. Getting 3011 fps average with SD of 2 and ES of 5 and well within 1 MOA grouping. Zero pressure signs, but 3000 fps is enough for my hunting purposes so I don't plan to test it any higher.
I know I'm late to the video but the Nosler Accubond bullet in general is a hard hitting bullet regardless of caliber. In my 6.5 Creedmoor or 270WSM the 140gr weight class Accubond is my go to and it hasn't let me down yet!!!
Barnes LRX will be my first choice for sure, I'll only go elsewhere if they don't shoot well.
That ring you see around the ojive of the bullet you see when seating a bullet, I have seen that when loading new sized brass. I always thought that the ring was from using a hornady seating die that the seating mandrel just didnt match up with bullet profile. Glad you brought that up, maybe talk about fixing that in detail. I also use that neck graphite lube you were using and imperial sizing wax.
140 gr Berger Elite Hunter 100% phenomenal. Might also try the 156 gr.
156 Berger EOL should be just the trick for this rifle and caliber. I’m curious to see what they’ll do in once fired brass and this rifle. That’s my pick for your next bullet. Also the 142 Nosler Accubond.
Great video. I love the eld x 143 gr for hunting
Swift scirocco, partitions, Barnes would be a good choice . Bergers , eldx, have to thin of jackets for big game . Love your videos
Would like to see a video on the Rebel press like you did with the 14 single stage press shootout.
Swift Scirocco in 130 grains has a heavy bonded pure copper jacket. Mushrooms beautifully.
And contrary to popular myth they are extremely accurate. Used mine in a 264 WM.
And the 200 grainer at 3300 out of a 338 RUM was a killing machine in Namibia.
I'm not even a reloader but this kind of stuff is so cool to me. Doing something that takes such a setup and so much time must be satisfying when you see the insane results.
6.5mm 156 grain Extreme Outer Limits (EOL) Elite Hunter bullets in 6.5 PRC
what powder did you use? I have been playing with 54gr RS Magnum and some Magpro.
Berger elite hunter!
Lets try Nosler Accubond long range 142 grain
That's two viewer-votes for the 142!
@@Ultimatereloader and one more ;)
160 gr RN! Go retro and kill some Bullwinkles. Since the PRC achieves higher velocities than the Swede or CM, how about a good 156 gr bullet? Go heavy. The Norma Oryx comes to mind. I am sure there are plenty of others. Loving this series. Learning a lot. Amazing the results you are getting with basic initial load development. Must be some rifle. I will start reloading soon. I do not have anything nearly as accurate, but this is heartening. I should be able to find good 308 and 223 loads without much trouble, among others. Plus proper Garand loads, various milsurps, and of course handgun loads. Thanks for all your work.
Way to go Gavin! Another smokin group!! In my limited experience on white tails,Berger’s kill well but will fragment. A well placed gameking has worked for me for years. Again congratulations on some fine shooting!
You inspired me to purchase this rifle, in 6.5 PRC. Keep the videos coming please. FYI, the article says you took the black bear with 6.5 Creedmoor
Awesome! Yes, 6.5 Creedmoor - I was referring to the 143 ELD-X Bullet I used on the bear- also used by Hornady for 6.5 PRC Precision Hunter ammo :)
@@Ultimatereloader Ahhh! Gotcha. Appreciate you clarifying. Love this channel! Thanks for all that you do for the community. Learned an exorbitant amount of info from your channel.
I know you have mentioned it in another video and I would also like to see you do a work up on the 135gr Hornady A-Tip, preferably with RL-26 and maybe H1000 as well for comparison purposes in the 6.5 PRC. I am currently developing that load myself and would love to see your take on it.
Try Barnes 127 LRX with Retumbo powder and Reloder 26.
156 Berger EOL, Hornady brass, 55.8 grn RL 26, Fed 210.
Shooting a Christensen Arms MPR.
3 shots cold bore=.25 in group
First gun I shot out to 1000 yards with and couldn't be happier with the loads. 7-10 mph crosswind. 5 out of 9 shots on target were in a 5 inch group. Seemed like the 156's held true in the wind better than I have seen out of other 6.5 cal bullets
Same load i use, but CCI BR2
if you can find it, look for some N565 to use with the berger 156 EOL
Here is my take on your 6.5 Creedmoor. First to be honest I have never shoot a 6.5 in the service I used a 50BMG. Later I started using the 308 round. The 308 has a good enough Colfficiant. I suffered a minie stroke so please bear with me for a moment. The Army and I had long talks and they proceeded to let me use the 308. It worked great for me. I still use it today for hunting on an AR 10 platform. If you want to do a 308 vs 6.5 Creedmoor I would like to see that.
Gavin I don't know if you heard....it was leaked to the public today that Lapua will be making brass for the 6.5PRC and the 300PRC in 2021....pricing may be announced near the end of the month!
Great video’s
I’d like to see you load some old standards , 127 LRX, 140 accubond, 140 partitions, 140 interlocks
Let’s fucking go!! Been waiting for this video!
The 156 Berger EOL is the ultimate long range hunting bullet for the PRC. Amazing BC, amazing consistency, and amazing performance on game. I’m currently pushing them 3040 FPS out of a 24” 6.5 PRC with RL-26. Where are you getting these 500 round boxes of Berger’s by the way? I’ve only been able to find them in 100 round boxes.
Hey Gavin, give them cases a trim to same length and a chamfer, it will get the es down and let you know how they shoot later on when you have to trim
There is Lapua brass available here in the UK, dont know about there but it may be better quality if you can get it
147 hornady eldm or 140 Berger. I have been shooting factory Hornady 147 loaded ammo with fair results giving me a velocity of 2750 fps out of my Ruger precision in 6.5prc. looks like I have my work cut out for me. only had one opportunity to hunt with it last year in west Texas and took a mature male aoudad at 508 yards. took a broadside shot through the heart lung area. He dropped where he stood. The bullet was recovered just under the skin on other side with approximately 80% of its weigh.
Also ive been looking at federals terminal ascent ...tlr ect...
Yeah, I'd love to share my experience with reloading this cartridge...except with no bullets, no brass, no powder and no primers it'll hafta wait. But thanks for this (and ALL your other) vids!!!
Nothing like calling it how it is. Good luck Man. I'm only still in the game due to the fact that I travel and can stop into a lot of stores.
Gavin, how about the 127 grain Barnes LRX for a hunting load? 3100 fps with Ramshot Magnum powder.
I would like to see the Nosler 142 grain ABLR as well!
Im playing with the 151gr cayuga from PVA in my 7mm, other guys are slaying elk with the 122gr cayuga in their 6.5 creeds and 260s.
I use 156 Berger they group excellent along with H 1000 powder!!!!!!!!!!!
Try a Berger 140 VLD hunter. That way you can keep you velocities up and us the .6 BC.
H1000 & 156 EOL. At 3060. Wicked
What's the specs on that holy smokes!
The next projectile you should use. Hornady A-Tip 153gr. or Berger 156 EOL. PRETTY PLEASE.... LOL
Gavin, Your info has proven very helpful in developing loads for my 6.5PRC Bergara Wilderness HMR! Do you find the length of the mags to be a big restriction when establishing your seating depth?
You should try some speer projectiles, i just got some for my 5.6 creed and I'm curious on how your experience would be.
Barnes 127 LRX. I know it doesn't have the best BC in the world. But, it expands very well at lower velocities and with the lighter bullet should get greater velocities at the muzzle. Would be a great 800 yard round I think after that, who knows.
142gr ABLR with 1300fps expansion threshold and .315 G7 BC will give you reliable expansion way out.
@@LRRPFco52 thats not true i tested accubond long range and they reliable open up at 1800 fps
@@tylarhaugan7908 That bullet is designed to expand down to 1300fps. Are you saying it stopped expanding below 1800fps? What was your test set-up?
Can you try Hammer Hunters? I have some test packs, couple of weights. Also, glad to hear MagPro worked well, have an 8 lb jug. Now shooting 0.34 MOA with Hornady 120 gr GMX hand loads, once fired Hornady brass, Christensen Arms Ridgeline, chrono data forthcoming, need to load some more. Had a factory ELDx 143 gr shed a lot of lead in a hog at 60 yards, nothing but the post with a bit of lead left in it. Bullet went in the chest, turned and went diagonally, lodging just under skin on far rear quarter. Prefer not to have that much lead deposited in meat my family will be eating.
Nosler partition. Berger bullets are great.
I shoot the 143gr ELD-X in my 6.5 Swede AI. Roughly 860-870m/s. I am amazed how effective this bullet is.
I’m really interested how some tough copper bullets would fly. I’ve seen the Barnes 127g LRX do well but would like to find some load data on the following bullets 137g Hammer Hunter, Cutting Edge 125g Lazer tipped hollow point and 125g Rifle Maximus. I have used the ELDX in my Seekins Havak 6.5 PRC and it shoots very well but I want a tougher bullet for Elk here in north Idaho.
A-tips, Berger, sierra. All outstanding projectiles! I don’t see much out there on cutting edge bullets. Are they comparable? Do you have much experience with them? I would love to see your testing results!!
Berger 6.5mm 156 grain Extreme Outer Limits Elite Hunter bullets over H1000 or N565
Please try Lapua Scenar-L 136 gr with H4831sc. Great work!
Try Sierra gamechanger 130 gr
I got some good results.
Try the Hornady a-tip I hear they are good
Second that 142 Nosler Accubond LR.
Would like to see the 156gr. Berger EOL bullet combined with Magpro powder.
I would like to see some load development for the Badlands Precision 135 Super Bulldozer 2's for the 6.5 PRC.
I just came back from the range, working on my 6.5prc load with the Berger 156gr elite hunter. Getting pretty good results with it so far. Using reloder 25, I'm getting about 3010fps and 0.4 MOA group. Would be interested to see what you come up with for the 156gr elite hunter!
Care to share your cartridge specs/ barrel length?
Gun builder fiend of mine is in the process of building my 6.5 PRC AR10 that he'll make another custom extra long deep fluted SS bull barrel with an extra long gas tube. Thank God I already bought a large amount of all the loading components last year before all the shortage issues this year. It's a 1/7 twist because I intend to use the biggest bullets available to exploit the bigger powder capacity, Sierra's new 150gr for sure. Target only though, not hunting, so rifle weight and size isn't an issue.
The only down fall is the 6.5 prc cartridge wont fit in a standard 308 mag for an Ar10 so it actually wont work. It a bit too long. Been there with that lol.
@@camaro97Vrb Lol, fits just fine with my test hand loads by seating the bullets at the 2.800" cartridge OAL that of 308 WIN. it works just fine because I don't buy ammo anyway because I've always rolled my own. I haven't bought ammo in two decades!
Nice. Yeah if you can fit them that would be sweet
Carrying that style weapon hunting is a chore...only need one in the right place.
Gavin, on the back wall you made some cleaning rod wooden hangers, could you provide the details. Thanks.
Hey Gabin when developing loads, do you start by measuring the bullet sitting depth (how far you want the bullet to be from the rifling) or you look for the charge first and then ´play with the bullet sitting depth?
Awesome vids btw, those groups are incredible for a factory rifle
I have the exact same B-14 as yours and love it. I've been shooting the 143 gr Hornedy Precision Hunter ammo to sight in and for brass. Since I live in California, I can only hunt with unleaded ammo (The State of Jefferson part of California). Can you do some load development for the Barnes 127 gr LRX with RL 27? Thanks.
Try out Hornady’s A-Tip, haven’t used personally but heard good things
Do you prefer new brass for precision loads? Is fired formed brass better for accuracy? Also did you crimp the neck? Thank you for your patience. I have reloaded for years but only for autoloader rifles, pistols and revolvers and I am excited to reload for my new PRC.
try the berger 140gn lrt.. should be perfect to stretch them legs
Hey Gavin, could you work up a load with Ramshot Magnum to compare with the Magpro? I'm considering the 147 ELD-M's with Magnum. H1000 is quite popular for 6.5 PRC and it is right between it and Retumbo on the burn chart. It seems like a good fit, what do you think?
Berger 156gr hunter, and the 153.5gr hybrid target!
I'm thinking about trying out the 153.5gr hybrids. What powder and charge are you using with them?
Work your load up slow with vitavouri and the hammer hunter n165 with the 124 shoots lights out max load is around 58 grs start 10 percent below and work up allways use caution when working with the unknown
Do Barnes TTSX or LRX and H1000 next.
Berger vld hunting works good in my 6.5
Either the Hornady 160 grain round nose or the 139 grain Hammer Bullets
Hey Gavin! Do you recommend slower burning powders for shorter barrels compared to the same cartridge with a longer barrel? Thanks!
156 Berger EOL, Reloader 26 is a deadly combo
@Rex Trammell I’m running 55.2 of RL26 with the 156, 210m’s running avg 2974fps. 1-7 twist 26” tube
@Rex Trammell it will I have both. Shot good too but I moved to 153.5 for long range bench work. A little cheaper to shoot, working on the 8 twist
What bullets, you ask? I have a Savage 110 High Country, using Hornady brass, H1000 powder, Federal primers, and 140gr Speer Deep Curl bullets. I like the excellent weight retention of the Deep Curls (99-100%!), and not so pricey as Bergers. I wonder what combo of components can achieve groups like that with Speer Deep Curl 140gr bullets?
Not related but I have a scope I have used for about 10 years know don't know the exact year I bought it I really like it for hunting as long as long as you enter the right info into it it's definitely deadly accurate its the eliminator 3 I dropped my 55in moose this year at 380 yards with a 30-06 factor ammo would like to see your thoughts on it
I would love a 150 +ish Barnes TTSX
Due to density of copper vs. lead the bullet would be displacing the case powder due to length at that weight.
Gavin, Want to load but no powder, bullets, or primers, Did shoot a group at 100 yds, with Hornady ELD-X 143 gr five shot group that produced .180 group, all most all in the same hole out of my PRC Bergara, incredible gun. So looking for a good powder as all the powders for the PRC are different than the 6.5 Creedmoor. Need something close that I can get my hands on. Great video, only one Q, what neck tension did you use and how far off the lands are you setting the seed.
I would love this in a new production/ retro mauser action, slightly modernized with a nice set of diopters! 🇺🇸☝️🍺
Mausingfield?
@@Ultimatereloader Yeah pretty close to that...yeah!
Ruger Hawkeye used mauser action
try the barnes 127 lrx bullet next.
There are no fly’s on the good old Speer Grand Slam bullets . The same is true for the tried and tested Nosler Partition bullets.