TESTED: Bergara B-14 Wilderness HMR in 6.5 PRC
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Here it is! Hands-on with Bergara's B-14 Wilderness HMR rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC!
**Note, correction: @ 6:27 in-lb, not ft-lb (scope ring cap torque)
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Don't shoot 6.5PRC but I do own a B-14 HMR in 6.5CM. Bergara makes a great firearm and has provided excellent customer service. Great review. Looking forward to your video on the Athlon Ares optic.
this video saved me some grief. i have a wilderness in 300 prc, measured my muzzle brake after watching this video and also had 4 thou clearance. put on an mdt brake and my groups went from a 0.9 to 0.3 inches and some 0.2
Awesome review bro. Athlon looking good on that hmr. All ways wanted a set up like this
Very nice. Great results after muzzle break issue was discovered & resolved.
Thank you! Thank you ! A million thanks!!!
Hello my friend from my favorite channel!
I have had a Bergara B14 for a little over a year, and despite making countless recipes with the refills, I was not getting the expected results.
I saw your excellent video about this rifle, took your advice and ran to measure the factory supplied muzzle brake.
I was one of the "lucky" ones to have a 6 Creedmoor brake.
I have a lathe, so I bought a 7.75mm drill bit. and I spent it taking the hole to this measurement.
Wow!! Magic appeared!!!
My best groups were 27.56mm. and 31.90 mm. 300 meters away.
I wish I could send you photos of the white ones!
Many thanks friends! Very happy thanks to you!
Congratulations on your channel and your excellent videos!
Big hug!!
Thank you for the detailed review. You've just saved me some ammo and heartache. I just went to collect my new B14 HMR Wilderness in 6.5PRC. Exactly the same as your review rifle the opening is only 0.270" on the muzzle break. I'm awaiting a reply from the distributor. Was a shame to leave the shop without my new toy 😢
6.5PRC was an endeavor for me purchased a Savage 110 High Country the poor thing had issues from the word go and after many dollars spent at a gunsmith and not much of the original rifle being left it finally shoots really well. Launches the 153.5 Berger’s at 3140fps and sets .38 group sizes on hand loads. Long and short of it my shooting partner runs a Bergera HMR B14 and likes it so well he purchased a second rifle. Thanks for the awesome video
Good catch on the muzzle break size !
Very good info. Am looking to get this rifle, which was why I clicked on this. Really looking forward to getting this now, and using it next season.
Just bought this exact rifle. Very excited to see you’re doing a series on it
How did you go about buying it??? I can’t find it in their store but it is on their website
I was able to pick up this same rifle about 6 weeks ago, but it was pretty hard to come by in today's market. I guess I was lucky with the muzzle break, because I was able to get some really good groups out of mine that were just 3 shot groups but under 1/2" for sure with my best being about 1/4". Thanks for the review, subscribed and will look forward to anything new you have coming up.
Thank you so much! I have this gun but in 6.5 Creedmoor and I have been having the same issue. I just checked the muzzle brake and it’s checking .270.
I use Athlon scope also. Love them.
Bergara customer service one word excellent.
Nice! I’ve just put 1 together using an old savage 12 action with a 24” preferred barrel. Got some Barnes 127lrx loaded, just need to get to the range and see how it groups.
Have been thinking of this rifle for a bit now and this video has made my choice to get this one a sure thing now! Interested to see more of this rifle with handloads as well as any upgrades
Thanks, I think you'll LOVE IT! Stay tuned for handloads and more shooting.
I have the same rifle in 6.5 PRC, just measured the opening at the end of the muzzlebrake and its .270”. Guess I’ll need to send that back... thanks for mentioning it.
I just purchased this rifle on 5/23. Unfortunately, my job hasn't allowed the time for me to fire it. After watching this video, I will measure the muzzle break clearance today! Thank you for the information! QW from NC
Ive owned a HMR Pro for around a year now in 6.5 PRC, extremely accurate! Highly recommend picking up one if given the chance!
I'm trying to decide between 6.5 creed and 6.5 PRC. So many factors into what I want to do with it. I'm hoping the PRC catches on a little more. I think it will.
I’ve had very similar groups with my 6.5cm and I absolutely love it. Tack driver
My Bergara Premiere in 280AI did almost the same thing! I had about 1" groups with factory ELD-X without my suppressor, then I was consistently getting sub 1/2" groups with my can on.
That is one SWEET and sexy rifle right there!! this is exactly what I was hoping to see on this channel. Both the rifle model and caliber and having them together is poetry. I want it so bad I can taste it
Thank you for testing my next rifle. Best regards from Belgium, Jef Cuylaerts.
You are welcome, and thanks for watching from Belgium!
The glass is where it’s at for me. My first FFP scope, the Argo; just ok glass, but today sitting on my safe not to be used for nothing.
Great job!
Good looking rifle and a very informative video per usual.
Thanks!
Yup, got a B14 HMR 6.5CM just over a year ago. Hornady American gunner shoots sub MOA & 80% 1/2 MOA (me or rifle?) out of the box. 2 mo. ago I procured a B14r trainer that preforms the same (w/top tier ammo) out of the box. I am extremely pleased.
That issue with the muzzle brake was a good find. That would be easily overlooked for someone with limited knowledge of muzzle brakes and the tolerances needed. Hopefully Bergara reaches out to anyone that may have bought one of the out of spec rifle/muzzle brakes.
That ammo and that rifle are exceptional.
That ammo is hard to find right now. I've been watching my local sportinggood stores for almost a month now. I even looked when I drove 4+ hours away and couldn't find a single box!
@@josephberndt6907 Look up Primary Arms who has it in stock and will ship. Great people to deal with too.
Awesome rifle! It's the exact one I'm hoping to get!!
Good luck in your acquisition efforts :)
We shot 2 3-shot groups at .25 MOA with a Bergara Wilderness on the first try with handloaded ammunition, using ELD-Xs.
Granted, it was 300 PRC.
Great rifle, great accuracy out of the box.
Just Purchased this rifle. Looking forward to developing the Load for it.
I bought my first b-14 in the sniper gray in 7mm. Mag. It’s such I’m amazing guns and shots very well.
Awesome rig! I can't wait to shoot mine more :)
Would love a vuuduu but cant afford them, Bergara is the next best. Beautiful rifle.
Waiting to see more reloading with the 6.5 PRC. I bought my first Mesa and with the powder shortage I'm still shooting factory loads.
Thank you for the awesome video.
There be nary mention of the omnidirectional muzzle brake blowing-up a dust cloud at 7:17, despite being equipped with it's own "shooting mat."
From what i know and hear about Bergara, they are top notch. I probably would not get this model due to weight, but in a good traditional hunting style. Been wanting a 6.5x55 for years. I have never been a bandwagon guy (see 1898 Krag, Savage 99, Ruger #1, etc), but i just may jump on the Creedmoor bandwagon. It is a very technically proficient cartridge and seems quite effective up through black bear and maybe even moose (if the Swedes do it, so can we).
Picked this up in 300PRC with a Nightforce ATACR on board. Set it up on an Area419 ARCA/Atlas combo. Really looking forward to squeezing off some rounds with it soon.
Richard how is the recoil on300 prc I want one I love my 6.5 prc
I have the Bergara B-14 HMR in 6 creedmoor and it’s the most accurate rifle I own.
Thanks for sharing.
I have one of very few begara hmr wildness 6.5prc in the uk and mine is not shooting at all with home load I am glad you mentioned the break
Check your brake and let me know what you find!
gavintoobe it’s measures 9thou more which is not a lot room spare
I love that Mach ammo. Every rifle I shoot loves that ammo.
When I was young and energetic, a 9 or 10 lb rifle was not a big deal. My grandfathers spprterized Mauser 98 with his homemade english walnut stock was 11lb 3oz. Used that for years.
These days, i like to put together light, shorter barreled rifles on Savage 10 and 111 blueprinted actions from Nortland. Also like to use the Howa barreled actions, for hinged floorplate or blind mag builds.
My current mule deer rifle is a Savage M 10 Tactical action, 20 inch threaded barrel, lightweight fiberglass, aluminum bedding block stock, topped with a Vortex Diamondback 2 3-9x40. Very comfortable up to 500 yards with it, weighs 7lb 9oz.
I love watching tacticool road hunters with these ridiculous rifles. Don't see many hill-pounders packing a rifle with 6lbs of unnecessary shit on it.
I love my HMR Wilderness !
Thank you.
Hi, I have a standard HMR in 6.5 CM and it's awesome. I'm currently waiting on a 300 PRC Wilderness, however, it won't arrive in-country (New Zealand) until mid January. I'll be looking forward to getting down the South Island to see if I can bag a decent sized Bull Thar. Regards BillE.
did you manage to get the 300 PRC on hills?
100% agree about the Bergara bang for the buck. My Bergara HMR in 6.5 Creed shoots the Hornady cheap factory 140gr HPBT load sub .5 MOA. My Handloads with the same bullet and 43 gr of H4350 shoot sub .4 with the brake, and... wait for it... Mid .2s with a Harvester 300 can attached! My buddies with the $4000 custom rifles just shake their heads....
Is that the regular HMR or the PRO / PREMIUM?
Love mine.
Finish is tough also
My first reaction to your ELDM groups is "brass". I started reloading last year and just used the Hornady brass I'd collected and my groups tended to look just like that, factory loaded and hand loaded. 3-4 cloverleafed per group but still an average of .7-1 moa. When I learned more about reloading I quickly observed that the once-fired cases varied a lot in OAL, mouth uniformity and especially flash holes. Sure enough ever 4th or 5th case I deburred had GIANT stalagmites inside the case.
Not to knock hornady, they're doing good work, I'm just saying that's as good as I would ever expect from their factory ammo. Not that I'm telling you anything you don't know either of course. I'd pay 5 bucks more per box and not reload if they fixed that.
Waiting for .277 Sig Fury before I buy another rifle. The cartridge interest me a lot, if it succeeds I will have a CROSS chambered in it for hunting
I bought a B-14 earlier this year in 6.5 Creedmoor. It didn't take but one range session to find the "sweet spot" with my loads. The last FOUR three-shot groups average 3/8" at one hundred yards. There seem to be only two limiting factors as to the accuracy of my particular rifle. 1. It is a lightweight rifle 2. me (my ability to shoot). Maybe I just got lucky with mine, but I highly recommend giving Bergara a try.
What were your loads if you don’t mind
Nice rifle for the money. I bought a 6.5PRC Browning X-Bolt Pro. At 6 lbs. 3 oz. it's my long range "mountain rifle".
Just put that very rifle on layaway. Hope to pick it to Friday.
I just got my Bergara b14 hmr wilderness in 300 prc and it shoots 1/4” groups at 100yd I didn’t get to shoot it with the stock muzzle brake cuz I threw on a area 419 hellfire muzzle brake but I am very impressed by the rifle
I think I might have to get one!
Pretty sweet rifle and light for what it is. Everyone complaining about the weight but we're only talking a couple pounds over a lightweight rifle. Is built alot tougher.
Got one in 300 PRC, awesome shooting rifle
How is the Recoil with the factory Brake ? I'm thinking about grabbing the Wilderness also. Just wondering if I will have to fork out for a High End Brake. I will using this for Target shooting not Hunting. Thanks , Josh
@@azureoval With mine being a 300 PRC I opted for an area 419 sidewinder brake designed for 338 Lapua. I haven't shot it with the factory brake. The sidewinder however makes it feel like a non braked 6.5
@@dbeardsley0 Thanks, that's good to hear. I can shoot my 12LRP Creedmoor all day long.
Recoil is not bad at all, but if shooting prone any omni-directional brake will kick up more dust/dirt compared to other brake types.
Those are good rifles and the 6.5 PRC is a good round. I own a Bergara hunter rifle in .300 Win Mag and have flattened a number of unsuspecting deer and pronghorns with it. But when it comes to 6.5 mania, I'm sold on the 6.5 WBY RPM. I love this round. Flat shooting, more velocity, hard hitting, and laser like accuracy with a wide variety of my custom handloads. I upgraded from the 6.5 CM to the 6.5-284 Norma a while ago and never looked back. Now that I have the WBY, I have the best of all 6.5 possible worlds hands down. Thinking about selling all of my .308 dia rifles except my 30/378 WBY. That's how convinced I am that as far as hunting and shooting goes, I'm in a pretty good place! Guns N Basses Forever!🔫🎸
Finding factory ammo easy?
@@CETGale
Handload, Handload, Handload. Oh and did I mention HANDLOAD!? 😄
love to see this up against similar rifles price wise, like the Browning x bolt hells canyon
I’d love to see you open the brake up a little bit to .020” clearance and then shoot again with the brake with proper spacing and see if that fixed the accuracy without the can! Just for curiosity sake honestly.
I just had that conversation with a friend about :30 ago! :) His suggestion... Great minds think alike.
@@Ultimatereloader Did you do it? Results?
I have a HMR in the 6.5 prc I love it can't find brass or loaded ammo or powder I did get a pound of rl 26 and with 54.5 gas gave me 2965 fps with a standard deviation of 7 fps my groups were just over 1" not as good as the factory loads I think my trigger is a little heavy I pulled it down to about 3lbs I don't have a scale so it's my best guess probably going to buy a trigger tech primary for it anyway I have made it my favorite can't wait to take it hunting.
Would like to see you get your hands on a Lithgow Arms rifle. They are great
This is super juvenile but it looks like you are hammering that backhoe out of rage. She broke her last hydro line.
Reloder 26 gives incredible velocity and accuracy in my 6.5PRC Ruger.
Where do you source from?
I've decided that I'm getting one of these rifles but I'm still not decided on caliber. I'll primarily be using for hunting whitetail and short to medium range target shooting (under 500 yards). I would also like the option to potentially take much larger animals, in case I ever manage to get the opportunity to hunt elk or moose out west. I'm between the .308 win and .300 win mag, just because they have been what I've seen most readily available in stock, but the 6.5 PRC definitely seems interesting.
Thanks
Just got this in the 300 win mag. Can't wait to see how it performs
Should be GREAT!
I just purchased (6/17/2021) a Seekins Havak today and have yet to get to take it out. I’m going tomorrow to the gun store to maybe mount up my scope and get it bore sighted.
9:52 semiautomatic bolt action 😲😉
Bergara is built like a remington should be! Bergara and Tikka and are the best quality factory rifles in thier price range on the markets
I just got a Bergara B14 HMR in 6.5 cm and I put an Athlon Argos 6-30x56 on it. Just need to go shoot it.
When you are playing with loads for this how about some 156 grain Berger EOL's.
I ran into the same thing.My projectile was swimming the side. The hole was nit o effects round. It was EGG Shaped.I was intending on sending rifle back to them.But first I took it off the brake and put on my Omeg suppressor and it shot lights out.
My gun store has 2 6.5 creed and 6.5 prc I have been looking at them really hard. Believe I’m going to go with the 6.5 creed because the price of ammo difference. I have a B-14 ridgeline in .308 and it shoots amazing
11:08 Great info you could chase you tail for a long time trying to figure out.
I have a HUGE checklist from attending Gordy Gritters' class, but this was the first thing I thought to check- agree, could have taken a lot more time/effort to figure it out. Rifle shoots awesome now that I figured out what happened.
Sweet!
@Steve; not that I'm overly happy about it but my Vanguard with sling and loaded to hunt is 10 lbs.!! Am building a (hopefully) much lighter rifle for mt. hunting. In the northeast the 10# doesn't seem too bad but in the Rockies it got heavy after a few days.
good vid. guys !
Very belated response, but I have a B-14 Hunter model in 308 Win I purchased recently. I am waiting on delivery of a DNZ Game Reaper scope mount/rings. I have a Burris Fullfield E1 2x7 that I will install and test soon.
Waiting on the 7prc
Glad yours shoots well. I bought a HMR14 in 6.5cm and it shot horribly. 1.5" at 100 yards with multiple factory loads from Berger, Federal, Hornaday etc. I sold it a month later.
Odd my hmr is shooting key hole groups with hornady precision hunter. I see you sold it so it wont matter now but bergara has a moa or less gurantee if it shoots more send it to them they test it with their setup and if it doesnt ahoot their gurantee they replace it
@@nathancrowe6522 yeah I'm aware but just didn't want to deal with the headache of shipping a new rifle back and getting it back 6 months later etc. Bought a tikka CTR to replace it and it shoots lights out.
I know what ya mean did the same with a m1a from a sled it grouped a basketball size at 100yd that sucker went down the road
Just for future reference it doesnt take very long at all to get your rifle back from warranty...I bought a Bergara BMP in 6.5 creed and it had some issues with the chassis and I got it back in less than 2 weeks
How long are you waiting between shots when using your chronograph? - think i might need to slow down when using mine. Nice video/channel btw.
Several minutes between shots, feeling barrel heat and waiting accorfingly
@@Ultimatereloader 10-4 Thank you
its a good round but I think the 6arc is going to be the big ticket long term for the ar platform.
I had the HMR in 6.5 CM and it performed well, however the firing pin hole in the bolt was so oversized that primers regularly cratered. The problem was especially bad with small primers. I couldn’t justify the cost of bushing the bolt on this gun.
I have a B14 HMR in 6.5CM, and it's WAY cool. Not something I'd want to carry for any kind of distance or in rough country, though. It's HEAVY, especially for no larger a caliber than a 6.5CM. The rifle he's reviewing starts at 9.5 lbs, according to the Bergara website. Add stuff like optics, bipod, and/or suppressor, and you're in 12-pound territory. Just be sure you know where and how you're going to hunt before you commit to one of these. I just bought a Fierce Mountain Reaper, and for comparison, it starts out three pounds lighter and features a folding stock. MUCH more packable. Both are great rifles -- just with different assumptions. Go carefully, shoot safely, and have fun.
I have the 6 5 creedmoor hmr. And my grouping got bigger when I installed the bergara muzzlebreak. I have to measure and see
Bergara HMR .308 here and it shoots lights out.
Sweet!
178 grain ELD-X Precision Hunters
No one had the 178gr ELD-X in stock so I worked up a load for the Sierra Game Changer 180 gr TGK for hunting, but 178 gr ELD-M is the favorite for paper
@@oliviavizza3713 Ok that was me not Olivia.
Liked your testing of this rifle and the ammo. I have an interest in getting a begara in a 450 bushmaster. I'm in southern Michigan were they allowed the use of straight walled cartridges, my desire is to find an gun that could possibly shoot out 300 yds. I wanted to know what your thoughts were with using the higher end Bergara's in that caliber. Thanks
great!
Can you take the trigger guard/ magazine from these rifles and install on a b-14 timber?
Hey Gavin, a question, if the barrell is lead lapped or the barrell is polished does that not take the place of the break in procedure? The reason i asked is that i purchased a Remington ADL and replaced the stock and i was not getting good groups like 2-3 inches so purchased bullets that had a coat of polish with different grits and bedded the stock and blueprinted the action and the rifle started shooting sub MOA groups.
@gavintoobe Can the adjustment knob for the cheek piece be easily swapped from one side to the other? If not, what is the reason? Embedded threads/nut/glued into the stock? I am left-handed but only purchase right-hand/ambi layout guns & I still want the tool-less adjustment without a pain in the chin every squeeze of the trigger.
Have the hmr 6.5cm and b14 in 308 can't beat them. Got about .5 moa from the b14 yesterday can't ask much more from a deer rifle.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 factory ammo 178 gr hornady precision hunter. Hand loads are sierra #2140 they are 165gr with imr 4064 pushing it
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 no problem if you hand load it mine was at .020 off lands and on upper end of the load data I think .4 off max id have to check my books to verify that
I have the wilderness in 6.5cm. And it's not a packable rifle. Definitely a great bench gun as I'm shooting .6 moa at 100yds. But I wouldnt want to carry it for any distance.
I have the same rifle with the SHV 5x20x56. We have only done break in on it. Very impressed. With the ammo shortage its hard to use it in this way, but it is what it is. With my setup what range is the 6.5 prc capable of? TIA.
Gavin, what sort of time do you allow between shots when testing ammunition?
Hi Gavin, Please do a review on the Bergara BA13 takedown. I have one in .308 16" and think it's great for its application. I dont see many reviews on youtube and not sure its even sold in the US.
So if an undersized opening in the muzzle brake can create accuracy issues, could a muzzle brake with too big of an opening create the same problem? Ie...I have a Surefire 7.62 SOCOM brake on my B14HMR chambered one 6.5CM and get 1moa at best with factory match ammo. Do you think switching to a 6.5 brake would improve things?
What should I get, the 6.5 PRC or the 300 PRC considering more on LRS than hunting and reloading as ammo is not available around where I live. Barrel live on both around what? Keep up with work, love your channel.