If she worked in the Plain Store, she would've been required to wear the clothing of that community while at work, which explains why she would have that wardrobe. It sounds like she built a fantasy life around being in the Plain Community and decided to live it out over TikTok. It makes me wonder what's going on in her real life that would make her go to that extreme.
Boredom at work. Maybe being in trouble in her real life for being a lier and joining a community known for their honesty- but she's still a lier who kept lying.
There are a bunch of creators who are ex-Amish and left in their late teens/early 20s so they offer insight into what it was like. Teens in those groups do occasionally sneak phones in, just like teens break the rules in any group, though I'm not familiar with any who go so far as to be active on tiktok.
Even if it’s out of a wish to be helpful, people can be really reactive in situations like this. I never knew about any Gofundme campaigns but I was also highly alarmed by her “last” video. I took a wait-and-see approach, but there’s been similar situations where I was too reactive.
@@daftoptimist I understand, I would just rather it be false than not help and in fact, it's more about helping myself than it's about her. A healthy coping mechanism to heal of one's wounds by trying to do good and make a change.
@@MaladaptiveWorld What religious trauma would there be in this case? She CHOSE to become Amish a few years ago, and CHOSE to deliberately break one of their core values, and the community found out and didn't appreciate that. It's not like she was raised Amish and knew no other life, she deliberately chose to be part of a community that doesn't use cell phones or social media and then broke that rule and got in trouble for it and acted like she was going to be executed instead of just shunned, in a community she chose to be a part of in the first place and chose to break the rules of after choosing to join.
I live by an Amish community. The females they hire at the Amish store, restaurant, and gift shops are clothed to entertain the tourist. She was an employee. She got fired.
never thought of that. I see Amish women at a lot of the festivals I do selling stuff. I always thought they were all really Amish. Now I'm gonna wonder.
@@ailenelynn truly depends where you live. i live in basically the amish capitol of the usa (lancaster, pa) and none of them are fake. in fact, they most likely wouldn't hire people outside their community.. ive never seen someone other than members of the communities inside of their stores & farmstands.. why hire an actor when your kids are the real deal? it sounds sad, but thats how it works here. never heard of people dressing up as amish before, but thats prob bc i live in such an amish populated area.
@@cloudy-vy7uy yes! TBH Pennsylvania Amish are the only I'm familiar with bc it's close by. But they have a very distinctive accent and speak Pennsylvania dutch... Amish can only wear certain colors... But manonites(* spelling sorry) can wear a broader range of colors ..so I would assume if she's real that she's manonite
@@cloudy-vy7uy yeah Im on border of allegheny, westmoreland and butler counties in Pa. Im a Face Painter and I travel a lot to work so I'm all over Western Pa
So assuming she's telling the truth, we're supposed to feel bad that she deliberately chose to be part of this community, break its rules, and might be getting kicked out?
Well.. "assuming" it's true (which if I'm being honest.. it's pretty hard for me to believe. And I usually play devil's advocate to an annoying extent lol).. I think it was more about her trying to get sympathy for being accused of lying. And then all the research and doxxing started happening, and that part I do feel bad about. But on the other hand.. she clapped back wayyyy too hard at that girl who tried to expose her, especially for someone who (probably) IS the one who is lying. Going as far as to claim that she has seen this girl since joining the community and explained it all to her.. she should've just said "she must not be aware I joined the community" or something. Or just took the L and stopped all of this. But posting that video being so confident in her defense.. ofc there will be people who take it too far trying to dig to find out who is telling the truth.
she also makes what id call feminist engagement bait about wanting a life but being forced to have kids and marry instead which is like... youre a late life convert?
I dont understand where shes asking u to feel bad. you also dont know the context of her conversion (couldve been caused by grooming, a controlling relationship, etc)
@@badclickrr i love how you guys dont even believe her but you also will simultaneously invent stories in your head surrounding the context of her joining, like abuse and grooming (common cult tactics used by these communities to convert, as well as by family/partners/friends to gain their community conversions) just dont exist and arent a possible reason she joined and didnt enjoy it. Also, people are allowed to change their mind when joining a closed community that utilizes manipulation (typically through religious threats) and realize the front they put up to get people to join is different and in reality the community is actually a lot darker than they pretend to be. This is EXTREMELY common in all christian religious sects and community sects that adhere to strict/orthodox religious code, and theres full documentrys about sects such as these, and yet yall STILL cant FATHOM someone actually dealing with this
She says, "Of course I won't tell you whether I'm Amish or Mennonite, and I will laugh at you when you get it wrong!" knowing that every guess attempt *WILL* be wrong because she is neither Amish nor Mennonite...
She converted yet the video in the beginning is saying she wanted to get injured in a farming accident as a CHILD? And I remember seeing multiple videos of her referencing her childhood in the community. She’s LARPING
The thing is that farm accidents can kill you. There was a child in my area that fell into a silo while helping one of their parents with something. Another child was killed after the tractor he was driving went into the drainage ditch that he had accidentally driven into and rolled over. Here this loony is stating that she wanted to get injured in a farming accident as a child when more often than not, children are killed in farm accidents. It's clear that she did not grow up on a farm or in the community she is playing make belief pretend in.
I had an Amish friend too, I stayed at her house a few times and we wrote to each other for a few years and then lost touch. I know she ended up leaving the community, married and had at least one baby. I wish I could find her, Marty if you're out there I hope you're doing great!!
this is it. there was a way to express this information without actually giving private peoples details. i say that because the family isnt apart of the page, they weren't in the videos etc, they didnt have a presance. yes say the father is a pastor, yes show photos of just you and her, if theres siblings/family cover their faces but point out this is the bio family not in plain clothing etc. those who were close enough to the situation okay maybe ask the community etc after her welfare and report back things seem okay, someone got the police involved and they said all was well, but then... thats enough. if she wanted to leave she wouldnt be there clearly, she clearly has a way out and family likely to help her. dont give addresses/locations, names and photos of the family and community.. there's a weird sect of the online community who everyone is well aware, will use that information to bombard those innocent family members, for no real good reason, not out of concern, but to be nosey shit heads who think they are important and think they know whats the best for this woman, who again, seems well capable of leaving if she wanted to, or asking for help to. while i wouldn't be Armish myself, if this is what she wants, let her have it and dont make it harder then shes already made it for herself. for fans who claim they have respect for her, they sure are acting the most disrespectful towards her then anyone else really in this situation.
This is just another good example of why you shouldn't lie on the internet; you have to assume SOMEONE will be able to expose you, and you'll face a firestorm of criticism in exchange.
If she IS lying, then it kind of is a big deal. Like if someone pretended to be a Muslim or a vegan or gay when they aren't, they could just be spreading falsehoods out of ignorance or malice. If she wanted to talk about that life style from an academic standpoint, thats one thing, but by pretending to have intimate knowledge of that community when she doesn't , she could do a lot of harm. And also its simply rude to represent a community you aren't a part of. Thats my take on it at least
Muslims would never accuse someone who says they're Muslim of being fake. That's the difference. You have no leg whatsoever to stand on in Islam if someone says they're a Muslim. You could call them a Muslim who is lacking in ways but you could never call them fake or say they lied about it.
@@lunasalem8264 Thats a silly stretch of the imagination; one is religion and ones a diet. It wouldn't be the 'same' for anyone. But the point (which you seemed to have missed) is; pretending to be literally anything you're not, while claiming to accurately represent any group, is harmful. Whether its something as big as religion or as small as a diet, you shouldn't spread bad info about it while pretending to have an insider perspective. Things don't have to be perfectly equatable to be considered bad for similar reasons. And misrepresentation is bad no matter what level its done on, big or small
@@lunasalem8264 they weren't saying they were the same nor did they imply they were on the same level. They were listing examples of things that people have, in the past, actually gotten mad at people for pretending to be. They are examples
If anyone wants ACTUAL insight into what can happen in a plain community (specifically Amish), please check out the book Tears of the Silenced. It's written by a woman who fled the community as a young adult and it's pretty horrifying.
That's the thing is that horrifying things do happen.. so if she's just manufactured this story for "clout" it's wild. If not, then her choosing to come back to tiktok before meeting with the "Bishop" will likely have consequences..SHE chose to come to social media and then to come back to it. It isn't right to sort of ma isolated the audience I to feeling fault for that.
The Case Closed podcast did a good season on a murder in Amish country (Season 3) which was its last hurrah before Macmillan books ousted the host and just turned it into an audiobook podcast. If you ignore the Macmillan rep who suddenly appears in season 3, it's a fantastic season
i'm only 2 mins in but why is she saying 'i'm jealous of the stuff i could be doing if i wasn't in the community i'm in' when she also said.. she CHOSE to convert to that community in 2018? the math ain't mathing still.
Yes BUT, how old is she? 25 max? That was 6 years ago at 19 at the oldest. If I had made permanent decisions when I was 19, I would have most likely been rethinking them by the time I were 25, too lol.
Don't forget the part where she wants to convert, but also refuses to play by her own community's rules and give up tiktok. The very premise of her account is being a hypocrite.
You can make a choice and still want to do things you gave up for that choice. Like, you can have a child and sometimes be jealous of those who don't have children because of their lifestyle and some freedom they have compared to you.
The sad part is that these communities are brimming with women who would love to share their stories and the actual abuse they've suffered, but they actually will face the shunning and get kicked out of the community. If she was working as an employee in one of theses stores, she could gave juat came on and shared the actual stories from actual community members and possibly helped someone out of the cult. (Btw, shunning is a practice that is only used by cults. That alone (despite being far from the only cult like practices in these communities) makes any religion a cult. Don't let the cute farms and jelly jars make you forget that most of the Amish communities are cults. I grew up in from a fundamentalist Christian cult, I know them when I see them. Shunning is a tactic with the only intention being to force those who no longer agree 100% to stay quite and pretending along. Shunning is abuse, shunning is a form of torture. Its solitary confinement without the confinement. Please DON'T support any community that uses this practice. If you get a little defensive at someone blatantly calling the Amish a cult and not wanting to support them, maybe take a second to watch some ex-amish stories. Cults to Consciousness is an awesome CZcams channel/podcast that features many people who escaped from Amish life.)
The issue I take is that plain people, without easy access to information and communication outside their community, don’t have much say over how they’re depicted outside the community (which is why you shouldn’t take a plain person’s picture/video without their permission IMO - they’re not a tourist attraction). Worse, people in those plain communities who might want to leave, may have limited opportunities to do so, and may not be free to openly discuss why they wanted to leave once they’re out. I think plain people, and those who have left plain communities, should be allowed to speak for themselves. And if Sarah Joy was lying about her involvement - which unfortunately does seem likely - then she was talking over plain people. I don’t think she meant any harm or malice, but regardless, damage is possible and we can’t really know the extent.
That first part is also why I’ve never been comfortable with Amish-themed romances (often written for a mainline Protestant audience) - I doubt many of those are actually written by Amish folks, or that any Amish folks were really consulted in their creation. They’re borderline exoticizing a community that, at best, just wants to live their chosen lifestyle privately, in peace; and at worst, uses their seclusion to cover up abuse and scandal.
@@daftoptimist personally I think if the author dedicates themself to making the book as realistic as possible then it’s fine - after all you don’t need to be a part of a certain community to write about them, otherwise your stories would be really bland just writing about yourself But if the author is using stereotypes or making a mockery of them - yeah, that’s not okay
I've watched a lot of accounts of former Menonnite/Amish women of the horrendous experience they have had so for her to lie like that is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. Your previous video of that lady showing concern for Sarah endured one of the worse abuse you can even imagine when she was in the community. What Sarah did was no big deal, but it definitely was insulting.
Not sure if it was Amish or Mennonite, but there was a video of a woman talking about how from the time she was a young child how her uncle would sexually assault her. She was part of one of those communities and her parents blamed her for it and horrifically abused her as well. The damage that this lying POS has done to an entire community of people, including women and girls who are actually being abused and mistreated in these communities, is beyond repair.
How do you dox the Amish? "Yeah, she lives two miles outside of town. It's the Yoder farm down the lane past the Graber's. The house back of the barn, not the one by the front pasture. The Schwartz's bull gets out sometimes, and they think she's responsible."😂
The biggest problem I have with her is she took a brand deal, hasn’t held up her end, and was already reaping benefits from the affiliate link to “leave the community” She played the owner of the company and allowed her to believe that she needed money to escape, that to me is the biggest problem she’s created.
I’d never heard the term “plain community” prior to your video yesterday. I live in Eastern Pennsylvania too. Just thought it was Amish or Mennonite….🤷♀️
She comes across as so arrogant. Also, she's blamed others a few times about her bishop having to come talk to her but isn't that her own fault for breaking the rules and being on Tik Tok? Of course she's going to be caught.
Yeah I think her intention was to come off confident and authentic lol and idk about the other part.. I'm not even halfway done this video so I've only seen that first clap back video.. If I believed this I would have taken it as her just being nervous and stressed out about it. But I don't believe this lol so idk I think.. I mean I guess I still think she was just stressed out bc she knew she was busted and was just desperately trying to backpedal and convince everyone.
She comes across as disingenuous because *if* and that is a big *if* she was as worried about this meeting with the bishop that she says she is then she would not have gone back into Tik Tok to provide a rebuttal to the person who exposed her. She would have remained off the app entirely as a way to prove she was remiss and willing to change to remain amongst her community. I don't believe for a second that she deleted the app evidenced by the fact she is now reposting vidoes that defend her. Her blaming others for exposure consequences and playing the clap back game are not the actions of someone who is remorseful of their actions but of someone who losing views and income by being caught in a lie. Watch because next week will hear about how she was kicked from the community and now is documenting her new life outside the the plain community and how "hard" it is for her. 😂
I am a Mennonite that grew up in an Amish area. She is neither. She's mixing up things from both communities - Amish and Old Order Mennonite. There's a reason why she won't tell you which she is, because she just isn't. And while there are bad things that happen in these communities, bad things happen in all religious communities and all communities in general. I have known many Amish, Old Order Mennonite and more progressive Mennonites, and they were happy in their communities. Some had left and weren't persecuted, they just weren't allowed to be involved in the community anymore. Also, many Mennonites, even Old Order Mennonites, do attend college. I went to college with them and my college chemistry professor was one. He couldn't drive a car so he bicycled to class.
And she needs to stop blaming other people for breaking the rules herself. She's responsible for being on tiktok, nobody else. If she doesn't like the rules then own up to it.
If you're a woman and a part of the community yeah it's going to suck.😂 doesn't mean that there isn't a ton of bad stuff that happens to people in these communities what you said is basically like yeah Heaven's Gate was bad but there's other things that were bad too😂😂
A friend of mine left the community when she was a teenager. She goes “home” occasionally but from what I understand, she doesn’t have the ability to “participate” in the community, she just checks in on her parents and the remaining siblings. She wears the traditional clothes when she visits but otherwise, she doesn’t
I think the whole issue about such communities that keep to themselves is that our information and understanding of them is less,so if someone claims they're from one,and spreads misinformation, especially deep or dark subjects, that's harmful for them because they tend to not be on the platform to set the record straight But the whole doxxing and harrasment was completely not needed
I appreciate how much benefit of the doubt you are allowing but if I have to be blunt, I think this girl likes to act, wanted views and fame, and created this narrative out of thin air, ignoring the fact that many of her actions would offend the beliefs and lifestyle of the Amish/ mennonite communities. Even looking at her "holocaust era reenactments," I remember when that was trending and found the whole thing so strange. There are better ways to tell traumatic histories than reenacting them in your bedroom, almost mocking the horrors that real people went through. People did it for clicks and views. I don't think people should be hating on this girl, threatening her etc. But I don't think any of this was innocent on her part, and it is good that content creators should lose support when they are caught lying, impersonating other cultures/peoples, making light of history, etc. In this case I think her videos are just cringey when you learn the context, but in others instances, content creators can definitely cross the line
People ASSUMED she was being held hostage. My immediate thought would not have been "she's been kidnapped and held hostage " it would have been "the church elders are telling her make this video or get kicked out of the community" Now that its shown it was probably fake the video was probably her trying to end the lie without admitting it but the internet had to be the internet and immediately jump to the worst possible conclusion and then people started investigating.
I would agree but she also did post a bunch of videos with stuff about childhood SA and saying she would be forced to procreate and really painting this awful image of at the very least the plain community she claimed to be apart of. I think that the logical thing to assume would be a shunning but I also think given the content she posted before this she made it seem abusive so people were already primed to receive her video like that.
@@moosepatil5946 it was a figure of speech, but you're right. It's a cap, or kapp. A bonnet would be something that went over the cap and would be worn more as outerwear, but the cap stays on all day because women are required to cover their heads while praying, and the idea is that your whole life should be led in prayer, so you need to wear the cap all the time (nonsense if you ask me, but no one did). In this instance, it really was just a silly joke though. I don't think anyone was serious lol
Shes dressing up. I dont believe her for a moment. Amish and Mennonite have no issue saying what they are. And from the comments on the last video “plain community” isn’t a thing. It’s an old term used by older people…… soooo i dont believe her.
I met a few Mennonites while living in Canada, one who I hung with a bit, and didn't realize he was one till someone told me. Everyone I met were lovely.
The worse part is now if a REAL Amish /mennonite woman reaches out or tries to escape whatever, people will be a lot more skeptical because of this lying liar who lied for attention.
There was no reason to believe she was in physical danger because she was crying. My immediate thought was "her church elders are making her delete the account" Now that it's known to be a lie she probably thought just saying "I have to delete my account " would be enough to end the lie, but people immediately jumped to ridiculous conclusions. Maybe it's because I already know alot about high control religions but the only danger I ever thought she was in was ex communication. That would be enough to make some one cry and a church elder likey would be in the room to make sure she said it, not lied because she got caught lying.
my only issue with this would be that, if someone else ever needed actual help leaving such a situation, you run the danger of people not taking it seriously because of it.
If she converted as an adult, her earlier TikToks that reference her childhood living in a plain community and wishing it was different at that time make no sense. That’s because she’s not telling a consistent story, which is a nice way to say she’s lying, and she indeed is lying, at least about some details
If she was so jealous of people's freedoms...yet she converted, (what she said in a video), why convert.? If she converted, why offend God by going against the laws.... So none of it makes sense, why would she even think she'd get away with it?
Exactly what I'm saying, why bother joining something if you're going to complain about it the whole time? If you really chose to live that lifestyle, then you knew what you were going to be giving up. She's speaking more like someone who grew up forced into the lifestyle than someone who willingly chose it.
That's ridiculous logic.. that's like saying you can't ever complain about your job because you chose it. You can't ever complain about your kids driving you nuts because you chose it. You can't ever complain about college and being overwhelmed because you chose to go. You can't complain about your backpain from a car accident because you chose to get a license. You can't complain about CZcams comments because you chose to make an account... You know you can choose to be apart of something, while still struggling with the sacrifices you have to make to be apart of said thing. Please choose a stronger argument because your logic is flawed. Human beings do not operate like this..
@@jaxystarr7108and people don’t realize that if her family is plain or whatever is it, then it most definitely feels like your entire support system is gone if you don’t submit.
There are often scam gofundmes in situations like this that try to profit off of people's goodwill. I think the sister did the right thing in trying to call out the situation.
Watch Sins of the Amish to know why this is such a disgusting thing to lie about. One of the people victimized by men in the Amish community within her family expressed concern for her well-being. Ugh.
There are so many legit “plain people” CZcams channels- they do not call themselves plain people 😅 if you type in Amish DITL, Mennonite DITL real people come up and I do think though there is the bad there is a lot of beauty in the lifestyle and I enjoy watching the videos.
My goodness this girl thrives on attention! It's actually scary the lengths she'll go to. I hope she realizes how damaging some of her actions can be. If she's trying to be a person with integrity for her bishop and the "community/ faith" then she wouldn't do anything that would go against it. *I don't have TikTok and don't agree with doxxing at all
it would have been not an issue if she didn't make it sound like she was in danger or even got the lie right. like if she was in a community like that, it would be a council of elders that would decide if she is shunned by the community for acting out. but the way this "amish" tiktok set it up was as if she joined a cult.
Besides Amish & Mennonite, there's also German Baptist & Hutterites, not to mention Fundamentalist Mormons. Plus, pockets of extremist communities that don't put a label on their religion.
From someone in the western US, I had no idea the differences until I watched the first and did some research so I can follow along 😅 Mormonism and FLDS are the heavy hitters here until you get to CA
I grew up Mormon and my family would go to Amish country for some of the stuff at their stores so I knew the difference as well as the Mormon and flds stuff! So fun for me 😅
You don’t have Hutterites? Montana has LDS, wacky Mormons, plygs, Amish, Hutterites & I think some Mennonites. We get DEI training on the Plain Folk in some professions here.
She's not "loosing her place in the community" because of the video saying she's lying it's because she broke the rules. I think she is lying because she apparently got caught with a phone but they didn't take the phone from her?
Roleplaying the amish has got to be the *weirdest* fucking niche interest.... Wild if true. It's like people who who get hard over dressing up as confederate soldiers and larping that war they lost. She seems like the kind of gal whose first crush was like... thomas jefferson or benjamin franklin. Like someone who read the american girl books, and took the opposite message from them
Frankly, my daughter married Mormon in Spanish Fork , Utah just over a year ago. I personally was there for her, she never had contact since then. I'm from Texas, she didn't even get me to the airport the day after. I'm terrified it's been over a year, I've researched everything I can. She got married in a church just a few blocks down from the LDS church in Salt Lake City. This crap isn't funny.
as an Ex-Mormon, I’m so sorry you’re going through this 🫂 I’m hoping your daughter is safe. It’s possible that she was told that since her family isn’t of the religion, she should limit contact. But that’s really off putting to hear she went no-contact almost immediately. Regardless, sending only the best ♥️
Two things - Spanish Forks area is an area of concern - there's mainstream LDS and the fringe fundamentalists. Mainstream usually don't cut off non believer family, they're encouraged to show you how great they think it is. The fundamentalists scare me a bit, I would def try to reach out even if no response. You might want to look into Ammon Bundy & his group. But mainstream LDS may have resources if theyve gone fringe. There's also folks with beliefs like Lori Allow & Ruby Franke around, but LDS powers will be working very hard to bring those who aren't yet excommunicated into the fold. It's very clear that there's something going on, and we're all lucky the Franke kids got out in time. Btw, Plain folks & LDS can seem kinda similar, esp FLDS who look like Plain if you aren't familiar with Anabaptist (Plain) rules. But theologically, the reasons they live like this are very different. LDS can be almost liberal, I work with some folks you'd be shocked are Mormons, I don't agree with the theology or rules, but they are pretty normal most of the time. I worry your daughter is married into zealots, but again there are online resources that may help. Best of luck, much ❤❤❤❤ to you! I know you'll be reunited happily with her soon ❤❤
@@blib4328The LDS doesn't like fundies and tries to distance themselves as much as possible. It's why some will insist on using "LDS" rather than "Mormon".
I will say, I live in Amish country in PA and a lot of people are a bit protective of them. There is a bad reputation that all of them have puppy mills and abuse their animals- and yes, some certainly do, but a lot of it is just people not understanding farming anymore. Amish cows (at least in PA) have the best life a cow can have. Almost all farmers I met (minus one) treated their cows very respectfully, because the cows are their business.
That makes sense. When animals are your livelihood, you want those animals to thrive. A happy, healthy cow will probably give you more milk than a weak, sickly one
Don't forget the horse the Amish get rid of them as so as they can't use them anymore 😢, if they need real vet care like we get them they would do it old horse too 😢
I've never bought or met a dog from the Amish that didn't have SUBSTANTIAL health problems like bad toes, poor teeth, undershot jaw, poor temperament, etc. Sure it's not all of them selling subpar dogs, but it's enough of them that I tell anyone to buy a dog from an accredited kennel with an actual pedigree and Never from the Amish. It's baffling that they have nothing but time to do good animal husbandry and yet every animal out of there is a hot mess of fuckery.
she definitely insinuated that she was a child in the plain community in that one post talking about not wanting to help out with planting. also looking at her older account she seems to like dressing up as a character and acting it out. which is fine but she should have been more up front about it especially not lying when confronted with it. she should just change characters and keep going!
Hi. I’m from the same area Sarah Joy is. I have not met her in person though I’m honestly shocked we haven’t physically crossed paths due to so many photos showing she frequents the same places I tend to go. Her family isn’t Mennonite, or Amish. Now whether she, and only she, is a convert, I don’t know. What is true is that our area does have a big Mennonite community especially in the next county, and some Amish people as well. The store she works at is run by Mennonite people. Whether they require employees to dress modestly I don’t know, but the church her family belongs to is just your run of the mill conservative Pentecostal. They all have active social medias (minus Sarah now) and are active in the local community. They wear makeup and jeans and all that. All in all, she entirely has the means to get the clothes, and like me is also exposed to a lot of Mennonite people. Whether she intended for this to all blow up I don’t know, but her actions have caused a mess. The church took their page down, our sheriff’s office was bombarded with people wanting to do wellness checks on her, all while they were focusing their effort on aiding other counties in wildfire efforts and finding kids who had went missing (who are now found and are okay). We’re a small area, with limited resources. Please, if you are worried about someone on social media, think before you act.
There's SERIOUS ABUSE in closed off religious communities... So being worried is justified. She might've been on her "running free" time when she wore makeup etc... once she's baptized she can't do any of that. The Ruby Franke case has made more people aware of what goes on behind closed doors. LEAVE HER FAMILY OUT OF THIS... I hope she's safe & just mental.
She claimed to have converted in 2018 or 2019, but yet posted a video claiming how when she was younger, she wished she had a farming accident so that she didn't have to help?
a random lady got doxxed and threatened bcuz everyone thought she snitched on sarah, and that sarah was in danger. there was no proof she snitched though she just criticized sarah in a video. people were even commenting death threats on a video of the womans baby
I remember in the last vid someone said that she used to have a channel called antagonize the patriarchy. Seeing clips of some of her old videos, it indeed looks like she was trying to hint that some of the laws of the religion (which she was claiming to be born into until she got caught) were anti-woman. So what's sad is if she'd done this and just admitted she works at a plain store and is going to share stories from women she's talked to. Because working with them does indeed give you a closer relationship to them than the average person will have. She could have given demos for how they do things, given us stories about 'she said she thinks this when she sees girls in big sweaters or tattoos'. It would have been all the info she wanted to give, but without the lying.
There's a lot of domestic violence in the Amish and Mennonite communities. It's reasonable that people would be afraid for her because women in these communities would not be allowed to be on tick-tock. Even if she wasn't the one making go-fund-me-s, it's still her fault if people got scammed Kids need to understand that you can't be doing this stuff. If you want to make up a story and act it out then by all means do. But label ot as fiction. It is reckless to pretend things are real and allow other people to think it's actually real
I'm just gonna say, not every sibling is close to their other siblings. And I don't really see her showing any proof other than her word. And either way, the plain girls account is gone now anyway.
This. There are so many people these days cutting off toxic family members or enablers of toxic people. I'm not close with or even in contact with most of my family. They could potentially claim anything about me, show pictures of us together from years ago and yet it wouldn't be proof for anything other than us having a genetic or familiar link. They don't know anything about me. Never really did in the first place and now definitely don't know anything about me either... People got way too invested in some chick's life, some of them went too far and people should just really leave her alone now if they don't believe her side of things. It's really not that hard...
Very true. My brother doesn't even really know me because our mother pit us against each other our whole childhood. We're neutral now, but if social media was the way it is now in our teens he would've been spewing our mother's BS claiming I'm not actually depressed. I was literally in and out of psych wards but that wouldn't have mattered.
Nah amish and Mennonites are really strict and would not tolerate Sarah just kind of following the rules. Her wearing makeup would be considered sinful. Also if she was amish recording videos of her face is literally considered breaking one of the 10 commandments. There is genuinely no way she was amish and posting tik tok videos for an extended period of time. They would have kicked her out of the community long before that
The issue I have right away, is she did a tik tok that you showed stating "As a kid I wished I would break a leg so I could skip planting" or something along the lines of that... so that's a lie then? She didn't become "part of the community" until she was basically in high school or 18?
amish and mennonite are not really that similar, i live in pa and it's very apparent that the amish are extremely exclusive, whereas my aunt converted to mennonite in her teen years. you really could never do that w the amish. they also don't interact very much at all with non amish unless you're in their store or work with them directly. they dress differently, they speak differently form each other, their demeanor is different, family structure is different
I saw another video covering this after your initial one that somehow had access to her old tiktoks and it made it......kinda obvious she was trying to demonize Amish life with her tiktoks which also makes it kinda obvious she wasn't really Amish
Gotta love the fact that this people sending her horrible messages aren’t even part of the Amish community or whatever. They’re just jumping at the chance to act holier than thou. Whether she lied or not, it does not justify people harassing her or her family. That supposed friend that “exposed” clearly had bad intentions behind her video.
you will literally never catch an amish person wearing anything other than the garments approved of by their church, a specific head covering with all hair up, maybe some sketchers or flip flops from a major brand but not much variance otherwise. mennonites have much more freedom in choice of fabric, cut, where they purchase, a bit more flexible in their modesty and garment choice. also the hair is a lot more visible usually just a small lace clipped into the back of their hair where the bun might sit
It more to being plain than dress. Its about being humble. This girl is b latently not humble. I mean listen to what she does rather than how she looks or what she says. Actions are demonstrative of motive. My guess is she is a Rumspringa kid who never went back. That gives her knowledge of amish life from her childhood. No amish would prrform like this or dislay their belief. They would find ot prideful.
Okay, now I'm fairly certain this girl is lying. The photo of her out in the field said "When I was a kid hoping I'd get hurt in a farm accident and not have to help with planting", but she said she converted around 2017. Then the pics in her old tic tok,.... no menonnite or amish woman would wear their hair down.
yeah, that's what I'm thinking, and she complains about how she wishes she could be a college student, but her community wouldn't let her. but she's the one who chose this? she's just very confusing and inconsistent.
It is so odd to me that there would be a drama that happens online that somehow gets back to a community known for not using tech to be online. Even if people online don't let it go outside of people actively visiting to tell the community how would they even find out?
Beware people that have no life and convince themselves that sincerity without immense skepticism can found on their phones. If you want to discover sincerity, you're gonna have to go outside and find it --same as it ever was.
i do remember this chick, i was shocked at why she was having so much hate at first. but w this video i get why 😭😭 she was saying how she couldn’t go to school or college and how she couldn’t work in the profession she dreamed of bc of her religious life. people in her comments were screaming at her to get out of the community and to let herself free…now im understanding why ppl are mad tbh 😭😭😭
There's a decent documentary about shunned plain community members and what they had lived through, it seems like abuse is very common because of the patriarchal family setup so like, there are serious issues in these communities. Hope this drama doesn't make people think these recounts are ALL lies.
As I said on my last comment, I still think she’s lying. She made up a story she wanted to tell and then was found out and she did damage control. It’s real scummy to make people believe she was in danger when there are so many horror stories from actual victims of the Amish community. Also, I completely forgot in my last comment but there was an actual victim in this. A girl got blamed for “snitching” on Sarah and got her account mass reported and deleted.
I remember when you were this itty lil channel and I was like " why is this dude not bigger, he's so fun to listen to", and here you are almost half a mil! you are ROCKIN it!
Only thing that had me questioning was how ornate her glasses are. Normally the approved glasses are smooth metal. It used to be they were all round, but now different Amish cell allow different styles, but all I've seen are untextured. She also looked unkept for an Amish woman. I never seen them go so wrinkled. I also wondered why she didn't have the center part in her hair like most Amish women do. If it was just one of the things mentioned above, (except the eyeglasses) I probably wouldn't have thought twice.
She's NOT Amish (and never said she was). She's Mennonite. Her clothes, hat, etc. are all different than that of Amish people. I'm neither religious nor from the USA and just listening to someone who knows about those differences for merely five minutes at most taught me that she's definitely Mennonite.
@@Larry_StylinsonI doubt she’s even Mennonite tbh. Mennonite people are banned from social media. Some can have Wi-Fi but social media is an absolute no
So for anyone wondering still, shes mennonite, theyre allowed to have phones and drive cars so long as they arent used for “worldly” purposes. Theres a large population of them in my hometown/village. They own a store called “The Olde Country Store” that looks exactly like the one this girl works at. They accept and encourage coverts and are generally pretty loving people although i have qualms with their belief system.
The problem is she herself claims to have converted in 2018, but in many of her TikTok’s (one in this video too) she speaks about how she grew up as a plain community member and how she wishes she would break her leg so she wouldn’t have to plant seeds in her plain community family as a child. Several of her TikTok’s speak of growing up and being a child in the plain community even saying she went through struggles ACTUAL plain community woman had to deal with as young girls in the community, which is a lie. Either way she lied, a lot.
If she is anything at all she is Mennonite no shot she is Amish, at least based on her dress and they had electricity in their home. I believe they had a microwave in the background of her videos. I’m asssuming she is living with mennonites based on her trying to be accepted into the community I assume to maintain housing but I don’t know that for sure. The Amish don’t even like their members to live in a house that is wired for electricity even if it’s not hooked up because of the “temptation to use it” let alone own allow something so “worldly” as a microwave in their homes. Amish are far more strict than the Mennonites about what they wear even though they may look similar to those unfamiliar. Mennonites can even drive and own cars while the Amish can’t even have modern lights or reflectors on their horse drawn buggies in many communities (which is against the law in many counties and has led to significant loss of life on city streets mostly for the Amish community as majority of casualties are children as they aren’t held to road safety laws like seat belts or child seats, not that it would help that much in a wooden buggy but ya know). It’s night and day different in many ways. They both still believe in living separate from mainstream society. Very Different take on “be in the world but not of the world” bible verse from most other Christian communities. The Amish as especially controversial IMO as “for religious reasons” they aren’t required to educate past 8th grade and many don’t pass all grades as they are allowed to homeschool with almost no checks and balances. Which is probably way so many people stay Amish. Makes it impossible for kids to get out when they grow up cause they can’t find employment especially for women (men often have carpentry skills). Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. Edited to clarify I was more explaining the major difference between these two communities than what ever the heck is going on with this girl.
My maternal grandpa's family are all Mennonite & they do not have any of these stupid limitations you are talking about. None of them even dress like that anymore. They have church which is just like any other church there is.
She's not Amish because her clothes are a majority of synthetic materials. Amish don't wear synthetic materials or blends like she has been wearing the videos.
@@GravesLilDarkAngel correct, I was saying she isn’t Amish, the clothes would look similar to people who aren’t familiar with the culture. The Mennonites are not as well known.
This is the confusion then.... because we have no way to learn or know how they currently live or if they can or can not do things all we have is goofy movies. Hard way to know much... @aseaofemotions
If she worked in the Plain Store, she would've been required to wear the clothing of that community while at work, which explains why she would have that wardrobe. It sounds like she built a fantasy life around being in the Plain Community and decided to live it out over TikTok. It makes me wonder what's going on in her real life that would make her go to that extreme.
This is such a good point
This!!
Why are good comments like this rarely on top rip
Boredom at work. Maybe being in trouble in her real life for being a lier and joining a community known for their honesty- but she's still a lier who kept lying.
This is not the case in most if not all "Plain" stores. They might ask an employee to wear a dress, but not to dress like a Mennonite/Amish
Why even IS there Amish Tiktok drama...HOW is there Amish Tiktok drama?
😂Hood point. However, when the teens are given their time to explore the world, they COULD use phones, etc.
There are a bunch of creators who are ex-Amish and left in their late teens/early 20s so they offer insight into what it was like. Teens in those groups do occasionally sneak phones in, just like teens break the rules in any group, though I'm not familiar with any who go so far as to be active on tiktok.
@@_Kittensworth Okay but she's not ex-Amish who has a phone, she chose to join the community.
The Amish have a ton of drama going on inside their communities. Give them phones and access to the internet and voila! Amish TikTok drama.
I wonder if they even know
Most ridiculous part of the whole drama is random people making GoFundMes based on 1 tiktok. Like.. what?
Huh???
People empathize and project their religious trauma onto others, specially us women who left it.
Even if it’s out of a wish to be helpful, people can be really reactive in situations like this. I never knew about any Gofundme campaigns but I was also highly alarmed by her “last” video. I took a wait-and-see approach, but there’s been similar situations where I was too reactive.
@@daftoptimist I understand, I would just rather it be false than not help and in fact, it's more about helping myself than it's about her. A healthy coping mechanism to heal of one's wounds by trying to do good and make a change.
@@MaladaptiveWorld What religious trauma would there be in this case? She CHOSE to become Amish a few years ago, and CHOSE to deliberately break one of their core values, and the community found out and didn't appreciate that. It's not like she was raised Amish and knew no other life, she deliberately chose to be part of a community that doesn't use cell phones or social media and then broke that rule and got in trouble for it and acted like she was going to be executed instead of just shunned, in a community she chose to be a part of in the first place and chose to break the rules of after choosing to join.
I live by an Amish community. The females they hire at the Amish store, restaurant, and gift shops are clothed to entertain the tourist. She was an employee. She got fired.
never thought of that. I see Amish women at a lot of the festivals I do selling stuff. I always thought they were all really Amish. Now I'm gonna wonder.
@@ailenelynn truly depends where you live. i live in basically the amish capitol of the usa (lancaster, pa) and none of them are fake. in fact, they most likely wouldn't hire people outside their community.. ive never seen someone other than members of the communities inside of their stores & farmstands.. why hire an actor when your kids are the real deal? it sounds sad, but thats how it works here. never heard of people dressing up as amish before, but thats prob bc i live in such an amish populated area.
@@cloudy-vy7uy yes! TBH Pennsylvania Amish are the only I'm familiar with bc it's close by. But they have a very distinctive accent and speak Pennsylvania dutch... Amish can only wear certain colors... But manonites(* spelling sorry) can wear a broader range of colors ..so I would assume if she's real that she's manonite
1. Females? You mean women? 2. Mennonite women are allowed to work at the shop. So her having a job proves nothing.
@@cloudy-vy7uy yeah Im on border of allegheny, westmoreland and butler counties in Pa. Im a Face Painter and I travel a lot to work so I'm all over Western Pa
So assuming she's telling the truth, we're supposed to feel bad that she deliberately chose to be part of this community, break its rules, and might be getting kicked out?
Well.. "assuming" it's true (which if I'm being honest.. it's pretty hard for me to believe. And I usually play devil's advocate to an annoying extent lol).. I think it was more about her trying to get sympathy for being accused of lying. And then all the research and doxxing started happening, and that part I do feel bad about. But on the other hand.. she clapped back wayyyy too hard at that girl who tried to expose her, especially for someone who (probably) IS the one who is lying. Going as far as to claim that she has seen this girl since joining the community and explained it all to her.. she should've just said "she must not be aware I joined the community" or something. Or just took the L and stopped all of this. But posting that video being so confident in her defense.. ofc there will be people who take it too far trying to dig to find out who is telling the truth.
she also makes what id call feminist engagement bait about wanting a life but being forced to have kids and marry instead which is like... youre a late life convert?
I dont understand where shes asking u to feel bad. you also dont know the context of her conversion (couldve been caused by grooming, a controlling relationship, etc)
No ones asking anyone to feel bad.. just don't dox her.
@@badclickrr i love how you guys dont even believe her but you also will simultaneously invent stories in your head surrounding the context of her joining, like abuse and grooming (common cult tactics used by these communities to convert, as well as by family/partners/friends to gain their community conversions) just dont exist and arent a possible reason she joined and didnt enjoy it. Also, people are allowed to change their mind when joining a closed community that utilizes manipulation (typically through religious threats) and realize the front they put up to get people to join is different and in reality the community is actually a lot darker than they pretend to be. This is EXTREMELY common in all christian religious sects and community sects that adhere to strict/orthodox religious code, and theres full documentrys about sects such as these, and yet yall STILL cant FATHOM someone actually dealing with this
Markie always has the most random drama that I would never hear of
Right😂 I’m not on tik tok so I love this lore 😂
I get all my drama from Markie. I lead a drama-free life, so it’s fun for me! 😂
And yet, here we are waiting for the updates 😂
@@rachellexxestsame, neither tik Tok or Twitter. So these are always fresh stories for me. ^^
This is why we love him
She says, "Of course I won't tell you whether I'm Amish or Mennonite, and I will laugh at you when you get it wrong!" knowing that every guess attempt *WILL* be wrong because she is neither Amish nor Mennonite...
She converted yet the video in the beginning is saying she wanted to get injured in a farming accident as a CHILD? And I remember seeing multiple videos of her referencing her childhood in the community. She’s LARPING
The thing is that farm accidents can kill you. There was a child in my area that fell into a silo while helping one of their parents with something. Another child was killed after the tractor he was driving went into the drainage ditch that he had accidentally driven into and rolled over.
Here this loony is stating that she wanted to get injured in a farming accident as a child when more often than not, children are killed in farm accidents. It's clear that she did not grow up on a farm or in the community she is playing make belief pretend in.
When I was about 12 yrs old, 40 years ago, my Amish friend from school would sneak and use the pay phone to call me. I hope she is happy.
so pure❤
🥹🥹🫶🏽
I had an Amish friend too, I stayed at her house a few times and we wrote to each other for a few years and then lost touch. I know she ended up leaving the community, married and had at least one baby. I wish I could find her, Marty if you're out there I hope you're doing great!!
@@Rye_Toast Thanks so much your story. Yes, people do drift apart through life but we still remember and care for our friends. Best wishes.
What’s wild to me is there’s a relatively large amount of people incompetent enough to make justifications for doxing
this is it. there was a way to express this information without actually giving private peoples details. i say that because the family isnt apart of the page, they weren't in the videos etc, they didnt have a presance. yes say the father is a pastor, yes show photos of just you and her, if theres siblings/family cover their faces but point out this is the bio family not in plain clothing etc. those who were close enough to the situation okay maybe ask the community etc after her welfare and report back things seem okay, someone got the police involved and they said all was well, but then... thats enough. if she wanted to leave she wouldnt be there clearly, she clearly has a way out and family likely to help her.
dont give addresses/locations, names and photos of the family and community.. there's a weird sect of the online community who everyone is well aware, will use that information to bombard those innocent family members, for no real good reason, not out of concern, but to be nosey shit heads who think they are important and think they know whats the best for this woman, who again, seems well capable of leaving if she wanted to, or asking for help to. while i wouldn't be Armish myself, if this is what she wants, let her have it and dont make it harder then shes already made it for herself.
for fans who claim they have respect for her, they sure are acting the most disrespectful towards her then anyone else really in this situation.
This is just another good example of why you shouldn't lie on the internet; you have to assume SOMEONE will be able to expose you, and you'll face a firestorm of criticism in exchange.
If she IS lying, then it kind of is a big deal. Like if someone pretended to be a Muslim or a vegan or gay when they aren't, they could just be spreading falsehoods out of ignorance or malice. If she wanted to talk about that life style from an academic standpoint, thats one thing, but by pretending to have intimate knowledge of that community when she doesn't , she could do a lot of harm. And also its simply rude to represent a community you aren't a part of. Thats my take on it at least
pretending to be vegan and pretending to be Muslim is about the same for you? 😂
Muslims would never accuse someone who says they're Muslim of being fake.
That's the difference. You have no leg whatsoever to stand on in Islam if someone says they're a Muslim.
You could call them a Muslim who is lacking in ways but you could never call them fake or say they lied about it.
@@lunasalem8264according to Islam you literally can not fake it. If you say you are 1 then you are. End of story where they're concerned.
@@lunasalem8264 Thats a silly stretch of the imagination; one is religion and ones a diet. It wouldn't be the 'same' for anyone.
But the point (which you seemed to have missed) is; pretending to be literally anything you're not, while claiming to accurately represent any group, is harmful. Whether its something as big as religion or as small as a diet, you shouldn't spread bad info about it while pretending to have an insider perspective. Things don't have to be perfectly equatable to be considered bad for similar reasons. And misrepresentation is bad no matter what level its done on, big or small
@@lunasalem8264 they weren't saying they were the same nor did they imply they were on the same level. They were listing examples of things that people have, in the past, actually gotten mad at people for pretending to be. They are examples
If anyone wants ACTUAL insight into what can happen in a plain community (specifically Amish), please check out the book Tears of the Silenced. It's written by a woman who fled the community as a young adult and it's pretty horrifying.
Thank you for recommending this. It's a shame her voice is being heard more than actual survivors.
That's the thing is that horrifying things do happen.. so if she's just joking for "clout" it's wild.
That's the thing is that horrifying things do happen.. so if she's just manufactured this story for "clout" it's wild.
If not, then her choosing to come back to tiktok before meeting with the "Bishop" will likely have consequences..SHE chose to come to social media and then to come back to it. It isn't right to sort of ma isolated the audience I to feeling fault for that.
Also watch the interviews Cults to Consciousness did with former Amish
The Case Closed podcast did a good season on a murder in Amish country (Season 3) which was its last hurrah before Macmillan books ousted the host and just turned it into an audiobook podcast. If you ignore the Macmillan rep who suddenly appears in season 3, it's a fantastic season
i'm only 2 mins in but why is she saying 'i'm jealous of the stuff i could be doing if i wasn't in the community i'm in' when she also said.. she CHOSE to convert to that community in 2018? the math ain't mathing still.
Yes BUT, how old is she? 25 max? That was 6 years ago at 19 at the oldest. If I had made permanent decisions when I was 19, I would have most likely been rethinking them by the time I were 25, too lol.
I mean, a lot of people still want to do things they think are "wrong".
i know im like girl it sounds like you dont want to be there. not in a sketchy way just in a this is not the life for her way
Don't forget the part where she wants to convert, but also refuses to play by her own community's rules and give up tiktok. The very premise of her account is being a hypocrite.
You can make a choice and still want to do things you gave up for that choice. Like, you can have a child and sometimes be jealous of those who don't have children because of their lifestyle and some freedom they have compared to you.
The sad part is that these communities are brimming with women who would love to share their stories and the actual abuse they've suffered, but they actually will face the shunning and get kicked out of the community. If she was working as an employee in one of theses stores, she could gave juat came on and shared the actual stories from actual community members and possibly helped someone out of the cult. (Btw, shunning is a practice that is only used by cults. That alone (despite being far from the only cult like practices in these communities) makes any religion a cult. Don't let the cute farms and jelly jars make you forget that most of the Amish communities are cults. I grew up in from a fundamentalist Christian cult, I know them when I see them. Shunning is a tactic with the only intention being to force those who no longer agree 100% to stay quite and pretending along. Shunning is abuse, shunning is a form of torture. Its solitary confinement without the confinement. Please DON'T support any community that uses this practice. If you get a little defensive at someone blatantly calling the Amish a cult and not wanting to support them, maybe take a second to watch some ex-amish stories. Cults to Consciousness is an awesome CZcams channel/podcast that features many people who escaped from Amish life.)
The issue I take is that plain people, without easy access to information and communication outside their community, don’t have much say over how they’re depicted outside the community (which is why you shouldn’t take a plain person’s picture/video without their permission IMO - they’re not a tourist attraction). Worse, people in those plain communities who might want to leave, may have limited opportunities to do so, and may not be free to openly discuss why they wanted to leave once they’re out. I think plain people, and those who have left plain communities, should be allowed to speak for themselves. And if Sarah Joy was lying about her involvement - which unfortunately does seem likely - then she was talking over plain people. I don’t think she meant any harm or malice, but regardless, damage is possible and we can’t really know the extent.
That first part is also why I’ve never been comfortable with Amish-themed romances (often written for a mainline Protestant audience) - I doubt many of those are actually written by Amish folks, or that any Amish folks were really consulted in their creation. They’re borderline exoticizing a community that, at best, just wants to live their chosen lifestyle privately, in peace; and at worst, uses their seclusion to cover up abuse and scandal.
@@daftoptimistI'm not sure about the writers. But I see them being sold in Amish/ Mennonite establishments by me.
@@daftoptimist personally I think if the author dedicates themself to making the book as realistic as possible then it’s fine - after all you don’t need to be a part of a certain community to write about them, otherwise your stories would be really bland just writing about yourself
But if the author is using stereotypes or making a mockery of them - yeah, that’s not okay
Or .. they could grow up and live like the rest of us ....
I've watched a lot of accounts of former Menonnite/Amish women of the horrendous experience they have had so for her to lie like that is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. Your previous video of that lady showing concern for Sarah endured one of the worse abuse you can even imagine when she was in the community. What Sarah did was no big deal, but it definitely was insulting.
Not sure if it was Amish or Mennonite, but there was a video of a woman talking about how from the time she was a young child how her uncle would sexually assault her. She was part of one of those communities and her parents blamed her for it and horrifically abused her as well.
The damage that this lying POS has done to an entire community of people, including women and girls who are actually being abused and mistreated in these communities, is beyond repair.
How do you dox the Amish?
"Yeah, she lives two miles outside of town. It's the Yoder farm down the lane past the Graber's. The house back of the barn, not the one by the front pasture. The Schwartz's bull gets out sometimes, and they think she's responsible."😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂💀 Spot on!!!
Actually one of the funniest comments I’ve probably read all year. Thank you for this laugh. An excellent comedy sketch in the making.
The biggest problem I have with her is she took a brand deal, hasn’t held up her end, and was already reaping benefits from the affiliate link to “leave the community”
She played the owner of the company and allowed her to believe that she needed money to escape, that to me is the biggest problem she’s created.
I’d never heard the term “plain community” prior to your video yesterday. I live in Eastern Pennsylvania too. Just thought it was Amish or Mennonite….🤷♀️
Me either.
Same! Grew up around there as well
it’s because they never wear glitter, diamonds, or sequins. duh
@@nightcoreeclubI think everyone gets why they’re called that but some of us had never heard the term before 🙄
Same.
She comes across as so arrogant. Also, she's blamed others a few times about her bishop having to come talk to her but isn't that her own fault for breaking the rules and being on Tik Tok? Of course she's going to be caught.
Yeah I think her intention was to come off confident and authentic lol and idk about the other part.. I'm not even halfway done this video so I've only seen that first clap back video.. If I believed this I would have taken it as her just being nervous and stressed out about it. But I don't believe this lol so idk I think.. I mean I guess I still think she was just stressed out bc she knew she was busted and was just desperately trying to backpedal and convince everyone.
She comes across as disingenuous because *if* and that is a big *if* she was as worried about this meeting with the bishop that she says she is then she would not have gone back into Tik Tok to provide a rebuttal to the person who exposed her. She would have remained off the app entirely as a way to prove she was remiss and willing to change to remain amongst her community. I don't believe for a second that she deleted the app evidenced by the fact she is now reposting vidoes that defend her. Her blaming others for exposure consequences and playing the clap back game are not the actions of someone who is remorseful of their actions but of someone who losing views and income by being caught in a lie. Watch because next week will hear about how she was kicked from the community and now is documenting her new life outside the the plain community and how "hard" it is for her. 😂
Straight attention seeking I've no sympathy tbh she brought all this on herself with pathological lies and manipulation@@Tillie11351
I am a Mennonite that grew up in an Amish area. She is neither. She's mixing up things from both communities - Amish and Old Order Mennonite. There's a reason why she won't tell you which she is, because she just isn't. And while there are bad things that happen in these communities, bad things happen in all religious communities and all communities in general. I have known many Amish, Old Order Mennonite and more progressive Mennonites, and they were happy in their communities. Some had left and weren't persecuted, they just weren't allowed to be involved in the community anymore. Also, many Mennonites, even Old Order Mennonites, do attend college. I went to college with them and my college chemistry professor was one. He couldn't drive a car so he bicycled to class.
And she needs to stop blaming other people for breaking the rules herself. She's responsible for being on tiktok, nobody else. If she doesn't like the rules then own up to it.
This comment is 💯
If you're a woman and a part of the community yeah it's going to suck.😂 doesn't mean that there isn't a ton of bad stuff that happens to people in these communities what you said is basically like yeah Heaven's Gate was bad but there's other things that were bad too😂😂
A friend of mine left the community when she was a teenager. She goes “home” occasionally but from what I understand, she doesn’t have the ability to “participate” in the community, she just checks in on her parents and the remaining siblings. She wears the traditional clothes when she visits but otherwise, she doesn’t
She’s saying that people on the internet got her in trouble with the community but…. How? How did they tell anyone there 😂
I think the whole issue about such communities that keep to themselves is that our information and understanding of them is less,so if someone claims they're from one,and spreads misinformation, especially deep or dark subjects, that's harmful for them because they tend to not be on the platform to set the record straight
But the whole doxxing and harrasment was completely not needed
I appreciate how much benefit of the doubt you are allowing but if I have to be blunt, I think this girl likes to act, wanted views and fame, and created this narrative out of thin air, ignoring the fact that many of her actions would offend the beliefs and lifestyle of the Amish/ mennonite communities. Even looking at her "holocaust era reenactments," I remember when that was trending and found the whole thing so strange. There are better ways to tell traumatic histories than reenacting them in your bedroom, almost mocking the horrors that real people went through. People did it for clicks and views. I don't think people should be hating on this girl, threatening her etc. But I don't think any of this was innocent on her part, and it is good that content creators should lose support when they are caught lying, impersonating other cultures/peoples, making light of history, etc. In this case I think her videos are just cringey when you learn the context, but in others instances, content creators can definitely cross the line
Honestly I don't understand how ANYONE could think she was plain. She is not. 100... Done deal. She's pretending.
She looks like they do in the face.
Real similar genetics is why it was believable.
She has the face of a community 100%
"real similar genetics" she looks like the average white person Christina lol
People ASSUMED she was being held hostage. My immediate thought would not have been "she's been kidnapped and held hostage " it would have been "the church elders are telling her make this video or get kicked out of the community"
Now that its shown it was probably fake the video was probably her trying to end the lie without admitting it but the internet had to be the internet and immediately jump to the worst possible conclusion and then people started investigating.
I would agree but she also did post a bunch of videos with stuff about childhood SA and saying she would be forced to procreate and really painting this awful image of at the very least the plain community she claimed to be apart of. I think that the logical thing to assume would be a shunning but I also think given the content she posted before this she made it seem abusive so people were already primed to receive her video like that.
She has her bonnet in the running for the best scammer of 2024.😆
It is not a bonnet
@@moosepatil5946 it was a figure of speech, but you're right. It's a cap, or kapp. A bonnet would be something that went over the cap and would be worn more as outerwear, but the cap stays on all day because women are required to cover their heads while praying, and the idea is that your whole life should be led in prayer, so you need to wear the cap all the time (nonsense if you ask me, but no one did).
In this instance, it really was just a silly joke though. I don't think anyone was serious lol
@@catie5939 it's not a cap either.
I’m sick of people misrepresenting the Amish community. Shows like Amish Mafia are a good example.
Shes dressing up. I dont believe her for a moment. Amish and Mennonite have no issue saying what they are. And from the comments on the last video “plain community” isn’t a thing. It’s an old term used by older people…… soooo i dont believe her.
I met a few Mennonites while living in Canada, one who I hung with a bit, and didn't realize he was one till someone told me. Everyone I met were lovely.
@@BrickNewton our Canadian Mennonite’s are quite different from what I understand
I love how you say "bang out of order" 😂 also the empathy and devils advocate discussion is always great
It’s a British saying 😂we do have some weird ones.
That’s what you call it when you have sex, then foreplay, followed by a cuddle😂
The worse part is now if a REAL Amish /mennonite woman reaches out or tries to escape whatever, people will be a lot more skeptical because of this lying liar who lied for attention.
She never said she was abused or trying to escape. Never. So that’s fucking dumb.
The worst part of it to me is that video she posted almost crying saying she was leaving tiktok. People were genuinely worried.
There was no reason to believe she was in physical danger because she was crying. My immediate thought was "her church elders are making her delete the account"
Now that it's known to be a lie she probably thought just saying "I have to delete my account " would be enough to end the lie, but people immediately jumped to ridiculous conclusions.
Maybe it's because I already know alot about high control religions but the only danger I ever thought she was in was ex communication. That would be enough to make some one cry and a church elder likey would be in the room to make sure she said it, not lied because she got caught lying.
my only issue with this would be that, if someone else ever needed actual help leaving such a situation, you run the danger of people not taking it seriously because of it.
If she converted as an adult, her earlier TikToks that reference her childhood living in a plain community and wishing it was different at that time make no sense. That’s because she’s not telling a consistent story, which is a nice way to say she’s lying, and she indeed is lying, at least about some details
If she was so jealous of people's freedoms...yet she converted, (what she said in a video), why convert.? If she converted, why offend God by going against the laws.... So none of it makes sense, why would she even think she'd get away with it?
Exactly what I'm saying, why bother joining something if you're going to complain about it the whole time? If you really chose to live that lifestyle, then you knew what you were going to be giving up. She's speaking more like someone who grew up forced into the lifestyle than someone who willingly chose it.
That's ridiculous logic.. that's like saying you can't ever complain about your job because you chose it. You can't ever complain about your kids driving you nuts because you chose it. You can't ever complain about college and being overwhelmed because you chose to go. You can't complain about your backpain from a car accident because you chose to get a license. You can't complain about CZcams comments because you chose to make an account... You know you can choose to be apart of something, while still struggling with the sacrifices you have to make to be apart of said thing. Please choose a stronger argument because your logic is flawed. Human beings do not operate like this..
@@jaxystarr7108and people don’t realize that if her family is plain or whatever is it, then it most definitely feels like your entire support system is gone if you don’t submit.
People stumble in their faith a lot.
@@thatbeaatcch9884her family isn’t, she said she wasn’t born into it that she converted…
There are often scam gofundmes in situations like this that try to profit off of people's goodwill. I think the sister did the right thing in trying to call out the situation.
Watch Sins of the Amish to know why this is such a disgusting thing to lie about. One of the people victimized by men in the Amish community within her family expressed concern for her well-being. Ugh.
It's better to live in your truth instead of lying because the Internet WILL humble you
and tbh i love internet for it lol (except doxxing and death threats, that was waaay too much)
She ain't going to tell you and she'll laugh at you when you get it wrong because she ain't.
😂😂😂
Kinda had a feeling that she was lying based on the “cry for help” video. It felt like really bad acting lol
There are so many legit “plain people” CZcams channels- they do not call themselves plain people 😅 if you type in Amish DITL, Mennonite DITL real people come up and I do think though there is the bad there is a lot of beauty in the lifestyle and I enjoy watching the videos.
Right? I just commented that I’d never once heard that term prior to Markie’s video on this yesterday.
@@crystallc8871 same and they do very in-depth breakdowns of the community they never mention that term.
My goodness this girl thrives on attention! It's actually scary the lengths she'll go to.
I hope she realizes how damaging some of her actions can be.
If she's trying to be a person with integrity for her bishop and the "community/ faith" then she wouldn't do anything that would go against it.
*I don't have TikTok and don't agree with doxxing at all
it would have been not an issue if she didn't make it sound like she was in danger or even got the lie right. like if she was in a community like that, it would be a council of elders that would decide if she is shunned by the community for acting out. but the way this "amish" tiktok set it up was as if she joined a cult.
I would definitely consider the Amish to be part of a cult
Lolol. People automatically thinking glancing to the left is a sign of “distress” and DEF not a sign of someone lying 😂😂😂
The way she talks, presents herself... i wouldnt doubt it if her glasses were fake 🙄
Besides Amish & Mennonite, there's also German Baptist & Hutterites, not to mention Fundamentalist Mormons. Plus, pockets of extremist communities that don't put a label on their religion.
I never use tiktok so I need Markie to keep me informed. This is vital work he's doing
She's not "Plain" she's using the lifestyle for clout.... Gross 🤢
Omg Markie without a hat! I'm swooning.
From someone in the western US, I had no idea the differences until I watched the first and did some research so I can follow along 😅 Mormonism and FLDS are the heavy hitters here until you get to CA
I grew up Mormon and my family would go to Amish country for some of the stuff at their stores so I knew the difference as well as the Mormon and flds stuff! So fun for me 😅
You don’t have Hutterites? Montana has LDS, wacky Mormons, plygs, Amish, Hutterites & I think some Mennonites. We get DEI training on the Plain Folk in some professions here.
What happens once you get to CA?
My big suspicion is if she was really found out to be on social media how does she still have a phone? Wouldn’t they have taken it away????
She's not "loosing her place in the community" because of the video saying she's lying it's because she broke the rules. I think she is lying because she apparently got caught with a phone but they didn't take the phone from her?
She's full of it for sure, way too many "conveniences" and contradictions in her story. It's gross.
Roleplaying the amish has got to be the *weirdest* fucking niche interest.... Wild if true. It's like people who who get hard over dressing up as confederate soldiers and larping that war they lost.
She seems like the kind of gal whose first crush was like... thomas jefferson or benjamin franklin. Like someone who read the american girl books, and took the opposite message from them
She straight deleted her account 😂😂 this is what happens when you lie!!bad karma on her end watch.
Frankly, my daughter married Mormon in Spanish Fork , Utah just over a year ago. I personally was there for her, she never had contact since then. I'm from Texas, she didn't even get me to the airport the day after. I'm terrified it's been over a year, I've researched everything I can. She got married in a church just a few blocks down from the LDS church in Salt Lake City. This crap isn't funny.
Can you call in a wellness check with the local police?
as an Ex-Mormon, I’m so sorry you’re going through this 🫂 I’m hoping your daughter is safe. It’s possible that she was told that since her family isn’t of the religion, she should limit contact. But that’s really off putting to hear she went no-contact almost immediately. Regardless, sending only the best ♥️
Two things - Spanish Forks area is an area of concern - there's mainstream LDS and the fringe fundamentalists. Mainstream usually don't cut off non believer family, they're encouraged to show you how great they think it is. The fundamentalists scare me a bit, I would def try to reach out even if no response. You might want to look into Ammon Bundy & his group. But mainstream LDS may have resources if theyve gone fringe. There's also folks with beliefs like Lori Allow & Ruby Franke around, but LDS powers will be working very hard to bring those who aren't yet excommunicated into the fold. It's very clear that there's something going on, and we're all lucky the Franke kids got out in time. Btw, Plain folks & LDS can seem kinda similar, esp FLDS who look like Plain if you aren't familiar with Anabaptist (Plain) rules. But theologically, the reasons they live like this are very different. LDS can be almost liberal, I work with some folks you'd be shocked are Mormons, I don't agree with the theology or rules, but they are pretty normal most of the time. I worry your daughter is married into zealots, but again there are online resources that may help. Best of luck, much ❤❤❤❤ to you! I know you'll be reunited happily with her soon ❤❤
@@hitfasthithardlol, the whole police force in her (the daughters) town/county is probably part of the LDS
@@blib4328The LDS doesn't like fundies and tries to distance themselves as much as possible. It's why some will insist on using "LDS" rather than "Mormon".
Thanks for uploading so much. Your videos are fascinating. I will never get tick tock so I love hearing about all the drama from you.
I don't know why people think they'll get away with lying on the Internet :-/
I will say, I live in Amish country in PA and a lot of people are a bit protective of them. There is a bad reputation that all of them have puppy mills and abuse their animals- and yes, some certainly do, but a lot of it is just people not understanding farming anymore. Amish cows (at least in PA) have the best life a cow can have. Almost all farmers I met (minus one) treated their cows very respectfully, because the cows are their business.
That makes sense. When animals are your livelihood, you want those animals to thrive.
A happy, healthy cow will probably give you more milk than a weak, sickly one
Don't forget the horse the Amish get rid of them as so as they can't use them anymore 😢, if they need real vet care like we get them they would do it old horse too 😢
I've never bought or met a dog from the Amish that didn't have SUBSTANTIAL health problems like bad toes, poor teeth, undershot jaw, poor temperament, etc. Sure it's not all of them selling subpar dogs, but it's enough of them that I tell anyone to buy a dog from an accredited kennel with an actual pedigree and Never from the Amish. It's baffling that they have nothing but time to do good animal husbandry and yet every animal out of there is a hot mess of fuckery.
A cult is a cult.
I grew up right outside of Lancaster! 😊
I just watch these random drama updates just to see Markie and hear his accent. With all due respect, he is a snack.
Markie makes me want a British boy so bad
Dude, why did you have to say something so controversial yet so brave? I like it 👌
And here I thought I was the only one who did this ;D his voice and presence is so soothing😭🤣😇💜
You built dofferent bc i hate his accent lol
@@Ambers3rdFupaRollWhat is there to hate about an accent?
she definitely insinuated that she was a child in the plain community in that one post talking about not wanting to help out with planting. also looking at her older account she seems to like dressing up as a character and acting it out. which is fine but she should have been more up front about it especially not lying when confronted with it. she should just change characters and keep going!
Hi. I’m from the same area Sarah Joy is. I have not met her in person though I’m honestly shocked we haven’t physically crossed paths due to so many photos showing she frequents the same places I tend to go. Her family isn’t Mennonite, or Amish. Now whether she, and only she, is a convert, I don’t know. What is true is that our area does have a big Mennonite community especially in the next county, and some Amish people as well. The store she works at is run by Mennonite people. Whether they require employees to dress modestly I don’t know, but the church her family belongs to is just your run of the mill conservative Pentecostal. They all have active social medias (minus Sarah now) and are active in the local community. They wear makeup and jeans and all that.
All in all, she entirely has the means to get the clothes, and like me is also exposed to a lot of Mennonite people. Whether she intended for this to all blow up I don’t know, but her actions have caused a mess. The church took their page down, our sheriff’s office was bombarded with people wanting to do wellness checks on her, all while they were focusing their effort on aiding other counties in wildfire efforts and finding kids who had went missing (who are now found and are okay). We’re a small area, with limited resources. Please, if you are worried about someone on social media, think before you act.
There's SERIOUS ABUSE in closed off religious communities... So being worried is justified. She might've been on her "running free" time when she wore makeup etc... once she's baptized she can't do any of that. The Ruby Franke case has made more people aware of what goes on behind closed doors. LEAVE HER FAMILY OUT OF THIS... I hope she's safe & just mental.
She claimed to have converted in 2018 or 2019, but yet posted a video claiming how when she was younger, she wished she had a farming accident so that she didn't have to help?
a random lady got doxxed and threatened bcuz everyone thought she snitched on sarah, and that sarah was in danger.
there was no proof she snitched though she just criticized sarah in a video. people were even commenting death threats on a video of the womans baby
nobody is talking about it but its really messed up
I remember in the last vid someone said that she used to have a channel called antagonize the patriarchy. Seeing clips of some of her old videos, it indeed looks like she was trying to hint that some of the laws of the religion (which she was claiming to be born into until she got caught) were anti-woman.
So what's sad is if she'd done this and just admitted she works at a plain store and is going to share stories from women she's talked to. Because working with them does indeed give you a closer relationship to them than the average person will have. She could have given demos for how they do things, given us stories about 'she said she thinks this when she sees girls in big sweaters or tattoos'. It would have been all the info she wanted to give, but without the lying.
There's a lot of domestic violence in the Amish and Mennonite communities. It's reasonable that people would be afraid for her because women in these communities would not be allowed to be on tick-tock.
Even if she wasn't the one making go-fund-me-s, it's still her fault if people got scammed
Kids need to understand that you can't be doing this stuff. If you want to make up a story and act it out then by all means do. But label ot as fiction. It is reckless to pretend things are real and allow other people to think it's actually real
May it's a case of action have consequences ?
I'm just gonna say, not every sibling is close to their other siblings. And I don't really see her showing any proof other than her word. And either way, the plain girls account is gone now anyway.
This. There are so many people these days cutting off toxic family members or enablers of toxic people. I'm not close with or even in contact with most of my family. They could potentially claim anything about me, show pictures of us together from years ago and yet it wouldn't be proof for anything other than us having a genetic or familiar link. They don't know anything about me. Never really did in the first place and now definitely don't know anything about me either...
People got way too invested in some chick's life, some of them went too far and people should just really leave her alone now if they don't believe her side of things. It's really not that hard...
Very true. My brother doesn't even really know me because our mother pit us against each other our whole childhood.
We're neutral now, but if social media was the way it is now in our teens he would've been spewing our mother's BS claiming I'm not actually depressed. I was literally in and out of psych wards but that wouldn't have mattered.
Nah amish and Mennonites are really strict and would not tolerate Sarah just kind of following the rules. Her wearing makeup would be considered sinful. Also if she was amish recording videos of her face is literally considered breaking one of the 10 commandments. There is genuinely no way she was amish and posting tik tok videos for an extended period of time. They would have kicked her out of the community long before that
She also wouldn’t even have a cell phone….
@@crystallc8871 I've seen videos of ex-Amish sneaking in phones for the teens for a price. It's not %100 out of the blue
The issue I have right away, is she did a tik tok that you showed stating "As a kid I wished I would break a leg so I could skip planting" or something along the lines of that... so that's a lie then? She didn't become "part of the community" until she was basically in high school or 18?
I remember there was an Amish reality TV show on TLC years ago, which was weird because aren't they against that?
amish and mennonite are not really that similar, i live in pa and it's very apparent that the amish are extremely exclusive, whereas my aunt converted to mennonite in her teen years. you really could never do that w the amish. they also don't interact very much at all with non amish unless you're in their store or work with them directly. they dress differently, they speak differently form each other, their demeanor is different, family structure is different
at least modernly, i know their values are similar in the context of the anabaptist umbrella but i just mean as far as interacting with them in person
I saw another video covering this after your initial one that somehow had access to her old tiktoks and it made it......kinda obvious she was trying to demonize Amish life with her tiktoks which also makes it kinda obvious she wasn't really Amish
Callum, you give people the benefit of doubt way too much my friend.
I kept hearing “plane community” and I’m like what’s wrong with being a pilot? Lmao cooking and listening I guess is too hard for me😂
How are people so supportive of someone who is so clearly obnoxious and have been shown to be lying!
"Bang out of order" is British as hell and I'm here for it 🤣❤
Gotta love the fact that this people sending her horrible messages aren’t even part of the Amish community or whatever. They’re just jumping at the chance to act holier than thou.
Whether she lied or not, it does not justify people harassing her or her family. That supposed friend that “exposed” clearly had bad intentions behind her video.
you will literally never catch an amish person wearing anything other than the garments approved of by their church, a specific head covering with all hair up, maybe some sketchers or flip flops from a major brand but not much variance otherwise. mennonites have much more freedom in choice of fabric, cut, where they purchase, a bit more flexible in their modesty and garment choice. also the hair is a lot more visible usually just a small lace clipped into the back of their hair where the bun might sit
It more to being plain than dress. Its about being humble. This girl is b latently not humble. I mean listen to what she does rather than how she looks or what she says. Actions are demonstrative of motive. My guess is she is a Rumspringa kid who never went back. That gives her knowledge of amish life from her childhood. No amish would prrform like this or dislay their belief. They would find ot prideful.
Omg. I was on TikTok when this came out. Look at her clothes! She’s not Amish it was mind blowing they all thought she was.
There are people that end up causing great harm while having the best of intentions. I doubt she knew how deep the well goes with those communities.
Okay, now I'm fairly certain this girl is lying. The photo of her out in the field said "When I was a kid hoping I'd get hurt in a farm accident and not have to help with planting", but she said she converted around 2017. Then the pics in her old tic tok,.... no menonnite or amish woman would wear their hair down.
yeah, that's what I'm thinking, and she complains about how she wishes she could be a college student, but her community wouldn't let her. but she's the one who chose this? she's just very confusing and inconsistent.
It's possible to live/work on a farm and not be apart of the religion? Lol
Yes she lie about being one, as soon as ppl close to her called her out she made everything up😂,
Mennonite women wear their hair down. It's mostly the older one's that wear their hair in a bun. I should know. half my family is Mennonite.
It is so odd to me that there would be a drama that happens online that somehow gets back to a community known for not using tech to be online. Even if people online don't let it go outside of people actively visiting to tell the community how would they even find out?
Beware people that have no life and convince themselves that sincerity without immense skepticism can found on their phones. If you want to discover sincerity, you're gonna have to go outside and find it --same as it ever was.
Omg, it's Markie with no hat! 😮
i do remember this chick, i was shocked at why she was having so much hate at first. but w this video i get why 😭😭 she was saying how she couldn’t go to school or college and how she couldn’t work in the profession she dreamed of bc of her religious life. people in her comments were screaming at her to get out of the community and to let herself free…now im understanding why ppl are mad tbh 😭😭😭
There's a decent documentary about shunned plain community members and what they had lived through, it seems like abuse is very common because of the patriarchal family setup so like, there are serious issues in these communities. Hope this drama doesn't make people think these recounts are ALL lies.
As I said on my last comment, I still think she’s lying. She made up a story she wanted to tell and then was found out and she did damage control. It’s real scummy to make people believe she was in danger when there are so many horror stories from actual victims of the Amish community.
Also, I completely forgot in my last comment but there was an actual victim in this. A girl got blamed for “snitching” on Sarah and got her account mass reported and deleted.
I remember when you were this itty lil channel and I was like " why is this dude not bigger, he's so fun to listen to", and here you are almost half a mil! you are ROCKIN it!
Im sorry but if she has a telephone shes not old amish shes Mennonite cause the old amish dont use phone...at least not in my area.
Only thing that had me questioning was how ornate her glasses are. Normally the approved glasses are smooth metal. It used to be they were all round, but now different Amish cell allow different styles, but all I've seen are untextured. She also looked unkept for an Amish woman. I never seen them go so wrinkled. I also wondered why she didn't have the center part in her hair like most Amish women do. If it was just one of the things mentioned above, (except the eyeglasses) I probably wouldn't have thought twice.
She's NOT Amish (and never said she was). She's Mennonite. Her clothes, hat, etc. are all different than that of Amish people. I'm neither religious nor from the USA and just listening to someone who knows about those differences for merely five minutes at most taught me that she's definitely Mennonite.
@@Larry_StylinsonI doubt she’s even Mennonite tbh. Mennonite people are banned from social media. Some can have Wi-Fi but social media is an absolute no
getting this notif was really scary
This is giving major theater kids vibes.
So for anyone wondering still, shes mennonite, theyre allowed to have phones and drive cars so long as they arent used for “worldly” purposes. Theres a large population of them in my hometown/village. They own a store called “The Olde Country Store” that looks exactly like the one this girl works at. They accept and encourage coverts and are generally pretty loving people although i have qualms with their belief system.
The problem is she herself claims to have converted in 2018, but in many of her TikTok’s (one in this video too) she speaks about how she grew up as a plain community member and how she wishes she would break her leg so she wouldn’t have to plant seeds in her plain community family as a child. Several of her TikTok’s speak of growing up and being a child in the plain community even saying she went through struggles ACTUAL plain community woman had to deal with as young girls in the community, which is a lie. Either way she lied, a lot.
Why are there tiny hands on your sweatshirt, reaching up to strangle you…😂
Horrifying title, can't wait to watch.
If she is anything at all she is Mennonite no shot she is Amish, at least based on her dress and they had electricity in their home. I believe they had a microwave in the background of her videos. I’m asssuming she is living with mennonites based on her trying to be accepted into the community I assume to maintain housing but I don’t know that for sure. The Amish don’t even like their members to live in a house that is wired for electricity even if it’s not hooked up because of the “temptation to use it” let alone own allow something so “worldly” as a microwave in their homes. Amish are far more strict than the Mennonites about what they wear even though they may look similar to those unfamiliar. Mennonites can even drive and own cars while the Amish can’t even have modern lights or reflectors on their horse drawn buggies in many communities (which is against the law in many counties and has led to significant loss of life on city streets mostly for the Amish community as majority of casualties are children as they aren’t held to road safety laws like seat belts or child seats, not that it would help that much in a wooden buggy but ya know).
It’s night and day different in many ways. They both still believe in living separate from mainstream society. Very Different take on “be in the world but not of the world” bible verse from most other Christian communities.
The Amish as especially controversial IMO as “for religious reasons” they aren’t required to educate past 8th grade and many don’t pass all grades as they are allowed to homeschool with almost no checks and balances. Which is probably way so many people stay Amish. Makes it impossible for kids to get out when they grow up cause they can’t find employment especially for women (men often have carpentry skills). Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. Edited to clarify I was more explaining the major difference between these two communities than what ever the heck is going on with this girl.
My maternal grandpa's family are all Mennonite & they do not have any of these stupid limitations you are talking about. None of them even dress like that anymore. They have church which is just like any other church there is.
She's not Amish because her clothes are a majority of synthetic materials. Amish don't wear synthetic materials or blends like she has been wearing the videos.
@@GravesLilDarkAngel correct, I was saying she isn’t Amish, the clothes would look similar to people who aren’t familiar with the culture. The Mennonites are not as well known.
@@aseaofemotions I was saying she must be Mennonite if she is anything. Traditional Mennonites do wear the type of outfits she is wearing.
This is the confusion then.... because we have no way to learn or know how they currently live or if they can or can not do things all we have is goofy movies. Hard way to know much... @aseaofemotions