As an INTJ who has been working on his saviour Te to be more healthy, I can relate to "feeling/being victimized". The key to this problem is to use your demon Fi, and look on the inside. Maybe I am an a**hole. Maybe I am stuck up. It is all about moderation.
Hmmm.... Learning you are Te Dom and seeing it on someone else, is... An eye opener haha I mean I would have handled it differently with Joan but I'm embarrased at being called out as I totally understand the logic 🤣
@@PragmaticOptimist I'm an INTP, and I've been BLIND to my sister being in Te Demon mode, every time she cancels people that are morally corrupt, LONG before there has been all the protests that brought me into my attention.
Yeah, I saw it with my ESFP brother all the time. He has a rather explosive Fi, and you never know what might trigger him. Thankfully, his overreactions were always verbal, if it escalated to physical he would punch a wall or break something, but never went for the person. But he always had a tendency to overreact. For example, if I or anyone said something that sounds like he was being judged, he would explode and start insulting sais person and screaming to their face for twenty minutes straight. And when confronted (afterwards of course, there is absolutely no way to calm him on his episodes). When confronted he would give a lot of BS reasons, but the main one was that he felt judged. And I am like dude, you screamed in my face around twenty insults or more. Whatever I might have said, pales in comparison to everything you just said to me and did so afterwards. Ofc, he doesn't take it good, like he always had the need to have a reason and come out as the victim somehow. My whole life I have been screamed to my face for days and days and still somehow I was the bad guy in his mind, lmao. And as prove it wasn't just me, he was like that with every single member of the family, even tho we grew in an extremely loving and supportive family. Thankfully, he has matured, and even apologized for said behavior. And now he is such an amazing brother, I would not trade him for anything. Healthy Fi - Te is one of the most absolutely wonderful things ever.... but when unhealthy... damn it sure is ugly.
Do you have a beginners video? My husband sends me y'all's videos and I can never understand enough of what you are saying to figure out what he wants me to see in it.
Hey! If you scroll through their videos right where it hits between 2-3 years ago, you can find simple videos explaining each function (Fi, Te, Se, Ni…) and various other aspects of OPS. it’s definitely confusing when you have no idea what they’re talking about lol. Hope that helps :)
Why is Te so focused on death??? I think Chrissy Tiegan is Te dominant too. they always wishing death on an enemy who has done seemingly very little to pose a threat...smh
Once you guys learn more about this personality stuff, it would be so cool (and financially advantageous?) for you guys to publish info on how to manage these swings more specifically
Hey guys, love your channel. However, I'm having a hard time hearing you guys in certain situations. I'm unable to pick up on what you're saying when you're commenting on a clip of an example. I've tried closed caption unfortunately it only transcribes the person you're observing and not you. It would be very beneficial to those, like myself, who are hard of hearing if you could balance the volume between yourselves and the clips. Thank you so much for the informative videos!! 😊
The logic of thinking is usually presented as infallible and in theory it is by definition, but the problem is we are dealing with extremely fallible humans doing that thinking handling that logic processing those reasons, which must inevitably create issues for their arguments. You have really brought to light this weakness of mine, and I’m super excited to start getting uncomfortable with my personality so I can hopefully manage it better in the future. Thank you so much!
lol I can imagine. Not trying to be mean but when INFPs get on a "moralistic soapbox" and start listing off lots of things that never make sense......argh! LOL :)
No need to torture anyone tho, there are plenty ways to vent healthily. And also, a good way to make sure things doesn't bottle up, if someone does something that bothered you, tell them. Of course never in front of others and in a calm way. Te can sound too accusatory, so just remember to say something at the start like "It probably wasn't your intention" or "most likely you were unaware of this but x thing you did wasn't helpful, what is done is done so no damage done, but try and be more mindful about that in the future please." It is important to get the person in an attentive state, instead of a defensive one. Because if they get defensive, it would probably make more damage to both of you. But if it goes smoothly, you took two birds with one stone. Because, hopefully it won't happen again, so the problem was solved (Te must be happy) and you took it off your chest (so Fi should be relieved).
yes this is soooo helpful for me as a Ti/Fe user. It helps me understand how people can say such nonsensical things and actually think it makes any sense LOL It might still be frustrating, but at least I can understand where they're coming from.
They're not at all necessarily saying she's wrong in the first clip (although they are saying that she should have anticipated such comments). Their main point is that she is having difficulty processing situations where other people are mean to her, when other types would more easily just brush off such comments.
They are stating that the environment she was in is ripe for that and other behaviors and that is was "funny" that she didn't get that. Poker is not about just playing cards, it is more about playing people. I suppose you would be totally calm and not call anyone a name if you lost thousands of dollars to them. Good on ya. Before you say that they shouldn't play because they cannot handle loosing the money, the same could be said for someone not playing if they cannot handle being called some pejorative.
They were saying "don't take it personal". What the woman probably failed to see is the players made terrible comments to anyone. They probably called the overweight guy a "fat ass", the bald guy a "chrome dome", the Asian guy a "noodle head" ....and anyone else they couldn't think of they probably called a "dick" or "cunt". All in all, she got off easy.
That's what I've discovered with myself as Ti/Ni. I can get trapped in my own head for months solving some bullshit theories that no one cares about, which later leads to a lot of pain and loneliness. Or I can help consolidate my girlfriend, go out hit the gym, work, hang out with other people. Work on projects that other people actually may care about. I'm infinitely more happy now then I was before using my Ti/Ni functions like crack cocaine. Just have to work on managing my Se/Fe. The hard stuff is what will lead to a happier balanced self.
That sounds like Elizibeth in The Girl With The Dragon Tatoo. Just finished the movie and looked up her MBTI is ISTP....Dominant Ti and Se leads to lots of formulaic mindwork solving puzzles and mathematical equations, meanwhile the demon Fe is blowing in the wind lol
Are she and Shan similar types? I already got Te-dom, lead Play vibes, but I feel like throughout the video they were inferring their types are the same.
@MBTI Koi Fish She is not an ENTP. She's an ENTJ, and if you hear her talk about the early days in an interview, you'll hear how she saw Dave as the other half of her brain, but they still got on each other's nerves.
1. Way less cowardly to say something to someone's face than behind their back. 2. Her squishy baby Fi should not have entered this battle with Joan goddamn Rivers. Run. x'D
@Caidenhah maybe not "wiser" but like I said, in terms of being a coward, it probably takes even more courage to vent to a dangerous person, than your average Joe...at risk of life or limb. Or alterntively, a lot of foolishness.
1:36 Isn't there a no-alcohol policy in Pro Poker? I've watched a few Final Tables in Bracelet tournaments, they don't drink alcohol at all. Copious amount of coffee and Cola, sure.
How does Te reasons show up in INTJs... just curious how it shows up differently for different types... I do the Sheldon thing of having a chair in a specific place because of a few different reasons. If anyone moves my chair out of the exact spot I go ballistic.
Sounds more like OCD. Not sure if it is more prevalent in specific types, but I would guess IJ could have it more, because they are all about avoiding chaos, having Ne/Se as 4th function.
@N Y I found a video on LiJo's channel. I'm pretty obviously Feminine Ti, Masculine Ne, Feminine Si and Masculine Fe. Thanks for giving me a nudge to look into that.
@N Y yes, you are correct. The coins have to be opposite on MF as well as IE. I knew that much but I didn't know what masculinity or femininity of functions meant.
@N Y so for me, Feminine Ti suggests I'm flexible with opinions, I listen to both sides before forming opinions. However I'm stubborn with my values (Fe) and I often throw temper tantrums when I've been personally wronged by the tribe. Masculine Ne sees the direct path and says 'here's what's coming - here's how to avoid it' or 'here's what's possible - here's the best way to achieve it'. Feminine Si (especially as a demon) tends to be wishy-washy on awareness of surroundings and has a lack of sense of time or order of things.
@N Y only on the vaguest of terms. I can describe what I see in myself better than I can infer the opposite. I literally just searched for this on CZcams and found a video from LiJo and took out of it what applied to me. Masculine Ti (feminine Fe) would have stronger opinions and looser values. I think my ENTP roommate is like this, he resists seeing other people's points of view, and asserts his own. We both have Ti. Feminine Ne (/masculine Si) is Mor ekikely to see possibilities and potrntial ways things could go, and be more flexible between them, as opposed to the way I can plot the most direct path.
Just because you're dominant in a cognitive function doesn't mean you're necessarily good at engaging it. Also, if you're interested in Te logic read about inductive reasoning and Sir Francis Bacon.
Te is around half the population. Maybe it doesn't make sense but it translates a lot better than Ti in our culture The video is just a decider freak-out
The lady in question is more of an Fe dom / ESFJ. Her "Te" can come out as "demon" or whatever other way you want to call that "8th" function. Her motivations of raising money for charity and the like, which were before her freakouts are more in line with Fe. Not saying Te doesn't care. But, in the aggregate it would not be a Te priority, just an added benefit.
My wife starts blaming me and hitting me when she gets dealt a bad hand when we play uno, I can imagine if she acts like that playing poker she might deserve being called a c%#t.
That was Fe not Fi. In the way ENTJ use it. Since everybody uses every function. If that would be Fi, ITJs and EFPs would also do it. But they don't. Because Fe or Ti is their blindspot. So Fe insults are just funny. ITJs treat insults completely detached and immediately start throwing funny insults back as a joke. Fe is about external rules/values. The way ITJs do it, is that they accept any social rules that such situation creates and they start to treat the other person by it. So if someone throws insult at them, they accept it as a social rule and start do the same back, using Te to understand, what the other person values, and attacking that. Using perfect Ti logic. The other way, that ITJs do, is that since they are detached, they are able to judge the comment/insult on how funny/smart it was. Which they then express. And that further discourages people from attacking ITJs in this way. Insults are Ti/Fe thing. ITJs/EFPs don't do it in other way than jokes, because it makes no sense for Te/Fi. If ITJs/EFPs say something bad and serious about people, it is always about how smart/dumb is what they do.
As An INTP (Ti/Fe) none of what you said resonates. I neither understand insults nor deliver them. I suppose when I do want to insult someone I can find the most absolutely most devastating thing to attack someone on, but my motivation to do so is extremely rare. If someone insults me it usually leaves me confused (queue meme of the lady with the math formulas floating around her head)
I'm an INTP and I'd only be motivated to insult someone based on someone else's behalf. I don't care about myself lol, but someone else who is being berated over lies - I have 99% chance of emotionally crippling them. This is why you hear of INTPs being quiet and nice and only arguing online over stupid stuff. But, if you spread lies about something or someone we love, ALL of the flaws you thought no one noticed or could be hidden is now laid bare and you'll rapidly find out the myriad of ways of how not only are you f'ed up, but your family and unborn children are in an unbreakable cycle of f-ups and how sorry I am for your children that you currently have. It wouldn't stop there, either. INTPs can go as long as you want to.
@@jankom.7783 I suppose. Most INTPs (I imagine) compartmentalize very well, so a person's insults to an INTP get ignored or verified for accuracy (seriously, lol). I think we have unusually long wicks. Going to scorched earth-mode is ultra-rare, unless you're unhealthy. Generally, we don't speak or we'll isolate ourselves. My brother may be an INTP and when I rile him up he insults me by calling me an idiot followed by poor/old/gay lol. But, I think insults are weak until it just reaches a point that the INTPs goodwill is used up somehow.
As an INTJ who has been working on his saviour Te to be more healthy, I can relate to "feeling/being victimized". The key to this problem is to use your demon Fi, and look on the inside. Maybe I am an a**hole. Maybe I am stuck up. It is all about moderation.
Mind is the reverse. I have to manifest Te to de-Fi. I tend to idealize without the doing part
Reasons to justify why I don't value you.
The value assessment is underneath all the surface level reasons. Te > Fi
Yeah right, you don't see the IPs explode. They explode like the kriffing Death Star
Hmmm.... Learning you are Te Dom and seeing it on someone else, is... An eye opener haha I mean I would have handled it differently with Joan but I'm embarrased at being called out as I totally understand the logic 🤣
As an INFP (Lead Fi, Demon Te) the description of the justification for being an asshole was TOO REAL!! 😂😂
Tell me about it!
@@PragmaticOptimist I'm an INTP, and I've been BLIND to my sister being in Te Demon mode, every time she cancels people that are morally corrupt, LONG before there has been all the protests that brought me into my attention.
do you find that as an INFP your values are so strong then the Te reasons come in and don't even make sense but you don't care?
I want to see a Dave clone in the next episode
Yeah, I saw it with my ESFP brother all the time. He has a rather explosive Fi, and you never know what might trigger him. Thankfully, his overreactions were always verbal, if it escalated to physical he would punch a wall or break something, but never went for the person. But he always had a tendency to overreact.
For example, if I or anyone said something that sounds like he was being judged, he would explode and start insulting sais person and screaming to their face for twenty minutes straight. And when confronted (afterwards of course, there is absolutely no way to calm him on his episodes). When confronted he would give a lot of BS reasons, but the main one was that he felt judged. And I am like dude, you screamed in my face around twenty insults or more. Whatever I might have said, pales in comparison to everything you just said to me and did so afterwards. Ofc, he doesn't take it good, like he always had the need to have a reason and come out as the victim somehow. My whole life I have been screamed to my face for days and days and still somehow I was the bad guy in his mind, lmao. And as prove it wasn't just me, he was like that with every single member of the family, even tho we grew in an extremely loving and supportive family.
Thankfully, he has matured, and even apologized for said behavior. And now he is such an amazing brother, I would not trade him for anything. Healthy Fi - Te is one of the most absolutely wonderful things ever.... but when unhealthy... damn it sure is ugly.
Love your eye makeup Shan! Plus ur laugh is soo adorable
Ikr?? She's always so eye-catching, I love how most of the time her eyeshadow matches her top.
Do you have a beginners video? My husband sends me y'all's videos and I can never understand enough of what you are saying to figure out what he wants me to see in it.
Hey! If you scroll through their videos right where it hits between 2-3 years ago, you can find simple videos explaining each function (Fi, Te, Se, Ni…) and various other aspects of OPS. it’s definitely confusing when you have no idea what they’re talking about lol. Hope that helps :)
Why is Te so focused on death??? I think Chrissy Tiegan is Te dominant too. they always wishing death on an enemy who has done seemingly very little to pose a threat...smh
second thought she's got the demon Te. ESFJ.
Once you guys learn more about this personality stuff, it would be so cool (and financially advantageous?) for you guys to publish info on how to manage these swings more specifically
You don't need a super power to tell if a person is lying.
2:16 Shannon doing the daler Mehdi dance
Hey guys, love your channel. However, I'm having a hard time hearing you guys in certain situations. I'm unable to pick up on what you're saying when you're commenting on a clip of an example. I've tried closed caption unfortunately it only transcribes the person you're observing and not you. It would be very beneficial to those, like myself, who are hard of hearing if you could balance the volume between yourselves and the clips. Thank you so much for the informative videos!! 😊
The logic of thinking is usually presented as infallible and in theory it is by definition, but the problem is we are dealing with extremely fallible humans doing that thinking handling that logic processing those reasons, which must inevitably create issues for their arguments. You have really brought to light this weakness of mine, and I’m super excited to start getting uncomfortable with my personality so I can hopefully manage it better in the future. Thank you so much!
the bit about the IxxP implosion hits a little close to home lmao
lol I can imagine. Not trying to be mean but when INFPs get on a "moralistic soapbox" and start listing off lots of things that never make sense......argh! LOL :)
So don't be too nice & don't be too much of an asshole...great.
I think I've been too nice lately.
@@SailorSiFi I want to but I have no time. I need to work off my huge consume pile.
No need to torture anyone tho, there are plenty ways to vent healthily. And also, a good way to make sure things doesn't bottle up, if someone does something that bothered you, tell them. Of course never in front of others and in a calm way.
Te can sound too accusatory, so just remember to say something at the start like "It probably wasn't your intention" or "most likely you were unaware of this but x thing you did wasn't helpful, what is done is done so no damage done, but try and be more mindful about that in the future please."
It is important to get the person in an attentive state, instead of a defensive one. Because if they get defensive, it would probably make more damage to both of you. But if it goes smoothly, you took two birds with one stone. Because, hopefully it won't happen again, so the problem was solved (Te must be happy) and you took it off your chest (so Fi should be relieved).
@@farrex0 why thank you
The opposite would be an Fi doing whatever the hell they wanted, then when they get confronted, throwing a bullshit samesies "it's just logic bro"
yes this is soooo helpful for me as a Ti/Fe user. It helps me understand how people can say such nonsensical things and actually think it makes any sense LOL
It might still be frustrating, but at least I can understand where they're coming from.
This woman from video at the beginning reassembles Shan, are they both ENTJs?
Yep!
What’s wrong with her calling out sexual harassment at the poker table? I don’t get why they were laughing about it.
They're not at all necessarily saying she's wrong in the first clip (although they are saying that she should have anticipated such comments). Their main point is that she is having difficulty processing situations where other people are mean to her, when other types would more easily just brush off such comments.
They are stating that the environment she was in is ripe for that and other behaviors and that is was "funny" that she didn't get that. Poker is not about just playing cards, it is more about playing people. I suppose you would be totally calm and not call anyone a name if you lost thousands of dollars to them. Good on ya. Before you say that they shouldn't play because they cannot handle loosing the money, the same could be said for someone not playing if they cannot handle being called some pejorative.
They were saying "don't take it personal".
What the woman probably failed to see is the players made terrible comments to anyone. They probably called the overweight guy a "fat ass", the bald guy a "chrome dome", the Asian guy a "noodle head" ....and anyone else they couldn't think of they probably called a "dick" or "cunt". All in all, she got off easy.
That's what I've discovered with myself as Ti/Ni. I can get trapped in my own head for months solving some bullshit theories that no one cares about, which later leads to a lot of pain and loneliness. Or I can help consolidate my girlfriend, go out hit the gym, work, hang out with other people. Work on projects that other people actually may care about. I'm infinitely more happy now then I was before using my Ti/Ni functions like crack cocaine. Just have to work on managing my Se/Fe. The hard stuff is what will lead to a happier balanced self.
That sounds like Elizibeth in The Girl With The Dragon Tatoo. Just finished the movie and looked up her MBTI is ISTP....Dominant Ti and Se leads to lots of formulaic mindwork solving puzzles and mathematical equations, meanwhile the demon Fe is blowing in the wind lol
Are she and Shan similar types? I already got Te-dom, lead Play vibes, but I feel like throughout the video they were inferring their types are the same.
They are the exact same type ^^
@@someonerandom713 Oh wow 😂🤩 thank you!
They even look similar!
They even look so similar, like they are sisters
@MBTI Koi Fish She is not an ENTP. She's an ENTJ, and if you hear her talk about the early days in an interview, you'll hear how she saw Dave as the other half of her brain, but they still got on each other's nerves.
Blow up days are so real for all demon functions. We put them off until……boom. They hit us.
Yes, this is me.
Te Play Energy OMG
Yes!! 👏🏻
As an infp i do the same thing 🤔
1. Way less cowardly to say something to someone's face than behind their back. 2. Her squishy baby Fi should not have entered this battle with Joan goddamn Rivers. Run. x'D
@Caiden That reminded me of that old guy who got punched by Mike Perry at a bar. Antagonizing an MMA fighter is never a smart idea, lol
@Caidenhah maybe not "wiser" but like I said, in terms of being a coward, it probably takes even more courage to vent to a dangerous person, than your average Joe...at risk of life or limb. Or alterntively, a lot of foolishness.
The sleepy tired face is me all the time hehe. But I'm Fe Ti.
1:36 Isn't there a no-alcohol policy in Pro Poker? I've watched a few Final Tables in Bracelet tournaments, they don't drink alcohol at all. Copious amount of coffee and Cola, sure.
Ti doesn’t do this?
How does Te reasons show up in INTJs... just curious how it shows up differently for different types... I do the Sheldon thing of having a chair in a specific place because of a few different reasons. If anyone moves my chair out of the exact spot I go ballistic.
@@stefanleithner6922 Wow!!! One simple answer from a simple-minded person! Thank you for your insight and wisdom! So profound... 😒
If you want a fun INTJ to observe go check out Kelly Stamps. She's a clear INTJ, very self aware, and I find her relatable and fun to watch (ENTJ).
Sounds more like OCD. Not sure if it is more prevalent in specific types, but I would guess IJ could have it more, because they are all about avoiding chaos, having Ne/Se as 4th function.
@@stefanleithner6922 lmao sheldon aint autistic
@@stefanleithner6922 so you're implying. and there are many highly intelligent ppl who have autism and dont display traits of it
7:00 yes. This is how I am (INTP). I'm far more critical on myself than others are on me.
@N Y I never got into the 'mascule VS feminine' on the functions.
@N Y I found a video on LiJo's channel. I'm pretty obviously Feminine Ti, Masculine Ne, Feminine Si and Masculine Fe.
Thanks for giving me a nudge to look into that.
@N Y yes, you are correct. The coins have to be opposite on MF as well as IE. I knew that much but I didn't know what masculinity or femininity of functions meant.
@N Y so for me, Feminine Ti suggests I'm flexible with opinions, I listen to both sides before forming opinions. However I'm stubborn with my values (Fe) and I often throw temper tantrums when I've been personally wronged by the tribe.
Masculine Ne sees the direct path and says 'here's what's coming - here's how to avoid it' or 'here's what's possible - here's the best way to achieve it'. Feminine Si (especially as a demon) tends to be wishy-washy on awareness of surroundings and has a lack of sense of time or order of things.
@N Y only on the vaguest of terms. I can describe what I see in myself better than I can infer the opposite. I literally just searched for this on CZcams and found a video from LiJo and took out of it what applied to me.
Masculine Ti (feminine Fe) would have stronger opinions and looser values. I think my ENTP roommate is like this, he resists seeing other people's points of view, and asserts his own. We both have Ti.
Feminine Ne (/masculine Si) is Mor ekikely to see possibilities and potrntial ways things could go, and be more flexible between them, as opposed to the way I can plot the most direct path.
ok wait so does Te ever make any sense? cause i don't even consider these so called "reasons" 😂 reasons.
Just because you're dominant in a cognitive function doesn't mean you're necessarily good at engaging it. Also, if you're interested in Te logic read about inductive reasoning and Sir Francis Bacon.
Te is around half the population. Maybe it doesn't make sense but it translates a lot better than Ti in our culture
The video is just a decider freak-out
Decider freak outs overide logic, especially for predominantly T types. That demon feeler is taking over and causing chaos.
The lady in question is more of an Fe dom / ESFJ. Her "Te" can come out as "demon" or whatever other way you want to call that "8th" function. Her motivations of raising money for charity and the like, which were before her freakouts are more in line with Fe. Not saying Te doesn't care. But, in the aggregate it would not be a Te priority, just an added benefit.
Shitscatter! Scat scatter? Step 1: shit, step 2: scatter. How much shit can a shitscatter scatter, if a shitscatter can scatter shit!
I found this video very mean. :D
What´s her type?
oh my god the cringe is hard here 🤣
Why does she talk so fast. I cant listen to her.
Poker is a psychological game. Period.
DONALD TRUMP?! 🤣
On blow-up day 😂😂
Lady in the video looks like Shan 😂
She is Shan's exact type twin
My wife starts blaming me and hitting me when she gets dealt a bad hand when we play uno, I can imagine if she acts like that playing poker she might deserve being called a c%#t.
That was Fe not Fi. In the way ENTJ use it. Since everybody uses every function. If that would be Fi, ITJs and EFPs would also do it. But they don't. Because Fe or Ti is their blindspot. So Fe insults are just funny. ITJs treat insults completely detached and immediately start throwing funny insults back as a joke. Fe is about external rules/values. The way ITJs do it, is that they accept any social rules that such situation creates and they start to treat the other person by it. So if someone throws insult at them, they accept it as a social rule and start do the same back, using Te to understand, what the other person values, and attacking that. Using perfect Ti logic. The other way, that ITJs do, is that since they are detached, they are able to judge the comment/insult on how funny/smart it was. Which they then express. And that further discourages people from attacking ITJs in this way.
Insults are Ti/Fe thing. ITJs/EFPs don't do it in other way than jokes, because it makes no sense for Te/Fi. If ITJs/EFPs say something bad and serious about people, it is always about how smart/dumb is what they do.
As An INTP (Ti/Fe) none of what you said resonates. I neither understand insults nor deliver them.
I suppose when I do want to insult someone I can find the most absolutely most devastating thing to attack someone on, but my motivation to do so is extremely rare.
If someone insults me it usually leaves me confused (queue meme of the lady with the math formulas floating around her head)
I'm an INTP and I'd only be motivated to insult someone based on someone else's behalf. I don't care about myself lol, but someone else who is being berated over lies - I have 99% chance of emotionally crippling them.
This is why you hear of INTPs being quiet and nice and only arguing online over stupid stuff. But, if you spread lies about something or someone we love, ALL of the flaws you thought no one noticed or could be hidden is now laid bare and you'll rapidly find out the myriad of ways of how not only are you f'ed up, but your family and unborn children are in an unbreakable cycle of f-ups and how sorry I am for your children that you currently have.
It wouldn't stop there, either. INTPs can go as long as you want to.
@@kevrokka.d.9749 Yup. I spend more energy defending a friend who is wronged than I do myself.
@@kevrokka.d.9749 So, basically, I was right.
@@jankom.7783 I suppose. Most INTPs (I imagine) compartmentalize very well, so a person's insults to an INTP get ignored or verified for accuracy (seriously, lol). I think we have unusually long wicks. Going to scorched earth-mode is ultra-rare, unless you're unhealthy. Generally, we don't speak or we'll isolate ourselves.
My brother may be an INTP and when I rile him up he insults me by calling me an idiot followed by poor/old/gay lol. But, I think insults are weak until it just reaches a point that the INTPs goodwill is used up somehow.