@@anthonygayflor1193 I've found my INTP mind works better somehow if I seed a few Te or Se actions (just so much it doesn't burn me out) and suddenly my Ti/Si has alot more new stuff to work with.
The thing with Te is that arguments can often be fully logical on their own, but when compared to other arguments the person has made in the past or arguments are related to other topics, the logic can be conflicting for Te that is not a problem. For them argument is related to each topic and thus the arguments are not related to other topics and thus not immediately perceived as conflciting. For Ti the ordering is based on the logical principes underneath the arguments, so arguments should never be conflicting because this violates the logical consistancy of the logical principles of the entire model. It's the same ideas as for Ni no idea should conflict another with another idea that is in their head, while for Ne ideas can live on their own without being fully consistant with eachother.
My Te neighbour mows our lawn all the time. If he wants to go out and do the back breaking work while I chill out in side in the aircon then go right ahead.
“Okay, call me.” As an ENFP, the fact that he said these words filled me with a wave of terror. I’ve said them and others like them enough to realize the hard way that people actually believe them. Now, in my right mind, I would NEVER ask ANYONE to call me- it’s all fun and games until the phone actually rings. 😭
@@satoshinakamoto5710 Then you are required to deal with whatever bullshit is on the other end. If you don't pick up, you're busy atm and can deal with it later if at all. If it's really important, you'll get a voice message or an e-mail at some point. I don't want to be beholden to the tribe potentially 24-7 but at least anytime between 9-5. Screw that. Unless you're a family member or my partner in which case I'd pick it up because something's probably wrong if they're calling me.
you guys expect that when you answer the phone, it's only "bullshit" and "work" is what happens? what if someone's randomly calling you for "teh ideas" and some light fun?
@@satoshinakamoto5710 Because he was saying it as a joke, but if someone took him seriously and called him later to talk about his idea pitch, it would’ve been unnerving. (I’ve had wayyyy too many moments like that, talking about how cool something is in theory and realizing too late that everyone took it seriously.) It also would’ve come off to an ENFP like an Si commitment- which, if I haven’t updated you, is the scariest thing in the whole wide world. I also just personally don’t like answering my phone and hate giving away my alone time to other people, so that adds into the mix, hahaha.
This is such a great video encapsulating the more nuanced differences between Fi vs Fe. I've always suspected as such, but they put it into words so well.
even tho im an Fi i hate and want to snap the necks of Fis for their stupid little fucking lazy ass “let me take advantage of you” emotive plainness, i swear as soon as they sense an Fe has stepped in and is willing to put in all the emotional work they let the rude jackassery go wild
The difference between Te and Ti is so funny 😂 People get so frustrated with me and my Ti at work, people will always be like "here let me tell you what you need to do and show you the RIGHT way to do it!" Yet they are impressed by the way I can solve puzzles , or dig deep into how something works.
@@dianadias3 I must agree with you here even though I'm also an Fe user, but it's my inferior function so I'm not going to fight it anyway 😂, but I absolutely love ppl with good Fi and wish it was easier for me to control cause it can get completely out of hand sometimes when it comes out once in blue moon. I'm jealous of you totally 😉👍
@@joshuavanderrheede4469 really ? please explain how ? cause you "leaving" a comment claiming "disproving itself" without explaining is exactly that... pretty sloppy.
@@RevRideReason I am pretty jealous of Ti users as well, their accuracy, their logic and the way they are able to see errors where no one else does.. that is inpressive 👍
5:37 I literally can't stand working with a whole bunch of TeSi people at work or at home. I need to know the how and why (not just because I'm new to the job), but as Ti-dominant INTP, I excel in languages and product knowledge that few colleagues grasp.
So is Dave saying that the difference between Fi and Fe is that Fi respects the vibe of others in order to allow freedom of values for all while Fe disrespects the vibe of others in order to control the vibe/values of all?
I'm guessing Fe will disrespect someone's personal vibe only if they're messing it up for the group, and Fi will respect someone's personal vibe only if they care about that person. Not sure if Fe is really more controlling, though; that might be something exclusive to observers.
@@PayAttentionToThePatterns That's what I was getting at, but I wasn't being blunt about it. I wouldn't consider Ni more controlling than Si, though; they're controlling entirely different things. You can argue that the abstract world encompasses more things and hence Ni controls more, but the physical world is also more visible and tangible, so you'll actually see Si controlling more. It's whatever.
@@TheGrandChieftain I suppose also that a major difference is related to where the Fe is in the stack. Do you think Dave's criticism of the "Fe f*cks down the road" is about Fe doms? He has referred to this "F*ck factory" large family down the road before, and I'm struggling to extract the lesson he's trying to teach when he uses them as an example of Fe gone wild/wrong.
I have this friend who just moved into a new country and 90 percent of his conversations are about how different the super are markets there, the other 10 is about social issues there and the culture and how they live and work and in general politics. He is definitely a sensor, he always asks for proof and facts and never trusts patterns (I on the other hand speak mainly about patterns and possibilities, I'm INFP, he is nothing like that). So I am between xSTJ and xSTP. The conversation about the super markets seemed hilarious to me because I wouldn't even think of that, it wouldn't be the think that'd fascinate me in a diff country. What do you guys think? Oh also he cares a lot about global issues and the news etc stuff in the real, physical world that happen in the in other countries as well as his own
That's a very specific example you gave there. Very easy to follow and not lacking in specifics. And the overview came after the details. Excellent impression of an S Savior
In reality people can be a very unique combination of 'functions', that are just ways to conveniently define the human brain. Jung was alive in a very different time when people didn't change significantly during their lifetime, there was no such privilege, in the sense of access to information and experience. If one wishes to understand what his tendecies mean and produce, MBTI is great, but its not a cage.
"Monkeys are chill." Lol Depends on Which ones, because some have been observed to wage war as seen in the 70s in Africa. Example: The Gombe Chimpanzee War
Yeah no it’s true. Te is better than Ti for getting stuff done. I admit it. It just is lol. It’s endless responsibility for the doing. Combine that with Se and holy fucking crap look out because a tornado of “do” is going to rip through your hemisphere, get out of the way, literally. But damn does stuff get done. ~ intp
"As bad as nicotine"? LOL cigarettes are bad because of the smoke 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ I know doctors who even use nicotine for health improvement. Yeah it triggered me, because that girl tries to sound educational
Dave's rant about Te,Ti and Fi,Fe was awesome and hilarious thank you
Dave: “Te is better”
CZcams suggesting videos to watch from Dave: “Ti: They really are better than you”
Which one is it Dave??? We need answers.
@@McZipline I understand the differences I was just joking. Err I mean pointing out inconsistencies. But Ti Gang 4L 💯 💯 😤
Te is best because it's his bae XD
@@anthonygayflor1193 I've found my INTP mind works better somehow if I seed a few Te or Se actions (just so much it doesn't burn me out) and suddenly my Ti/Si has alot more new stuff to work with.
The thing with Te is that arguments can often be fully logical on their own, but when compared to other arguments the person has made in the past or arguments are related to other topics, the logic can be conflicting for Te that is not a problem. For them argument is related to each topic and thus the arguments are not related to other topics and thus not immediately perceived as conflciting. For Ti the ordering is based on the logical principes underneath the arguments, so arguments should never be conflicting because this violates the logical consistancy of the logical principles of the entire model.
It's the same ideas as for Ni no idea should conflict another with another idea that is in their head, while for Ne ideas can live on their own without being fully consistant with eachother.
@@anthonygayflor1193 Ti gainG!! ❤️🍕😭💪
efficiency vs precision
I would love an expansion on the same topic but regarding the Ni/Se
My Te neighbour mows our lawn all the time.
If he wants to go out and do the back breaking work while I chill out in side in the aircon then go right ahead.
“Okay, call me.” As an ENFP, the fact that he said these words filled me with a wave of terror. I’ve said them and others like them enough to realize the hard way that people actually believe them. Now, in my right mind, I would NEVER ask ANYONE to call me- it’s all fun and games until the phone actually rings. 😭
why? what's wrong with answering the phone?
@@satoshinakamoto5710 Then you are required to deal with whatever bullshit is on the other end. If you don't pick up, you're busy atm and can deal with it later if at all. If it's really important, you'll get a voice message or an e-mail at some point. I don't want to be beholden to the tribe potentially 24-7 but at least anytime between 9-5. Screw that. Unless you're a family member or my partner in which case I'd pick it up because something's probably wrong if they're calling me.
you guys expect that when you answer the phone, it's only "bullshit" and "work" is what happens? what if someone's randomly calling you for "teh ideas" and some light fun?
As an INFP, I'm terrrified of talking on the phone. Someone trying to call me can ruin my day.
@@satoshinakamoto5710 Because he was saying it as a joke, but if someone took him seriously and called him later to talk about his idea pitch, it would’ve been unnerving. (I’ve had wayyyy too many moments like that, talking about how cool something is in theory and realizing too late that everyone took it seriously.) It also would’ve come off to an ENFP like an Si commitment- which, if I haven’t updated you, is the scariest thing in the whole wide world.
I also just personally don’t like answering my phone and hate giving away my alone time to other people, so that adds into the mix, hahaha.
This is such a great video encapsulating the more nuanced differences between Fi vs Fe. I've always suspected as such, but they put it into words so well.
Omg, that's hilarious about Dave and the neighbor. That's something I would do. And I love apes, so 💜 the orangutans. 👍
Te = Fast is BEST
Ti = The right way is the BEST way
6:12 As an Fe dom, this is very true
I often find myself being pissed at Fis for ruining the 'vibe' very often but I kinda just gotta play along lmao
even tho im an Fi i hate and want to snap the necks of Fis for their stupid little fucking lazy ass “let me take advantage of you” emotive plainness, i swear as soon as they sense an Fe has stepped in and is willing to put in all the emotional work they let the rude jackassery go wild
The difference between Te and Ti is so funny 😂 People get so frustrated with me and my Ti at work, people will always be like "here let me tell you what you need to do and show you the RIGHT way to do it!" Yet they are impressed by the way I can solve puzzles , or dig deep into how something works.
Basically me and my partner lol. We cover each others backs
the last monkey video is all we need to survive
Te = sloppy quick jobs.
Ti = Pen point execution.
who really needs to catch up to who... "relax" jk 😉
The same with Fi Fe.
Fe is great for everyone, but fi has precision in feeling and reaches serious levels of depths..
@@dianadias3 I must agree with you here even though I'm also an Fe user, but it's my inferior function so I'm not going to fight it anyway 😂, but I absolutely love ppl with good Fi and wish it was easier for me to control cause it can get completely out of hand sometimes when it comes out once in blue moon. I'm jealous of you totally 😉👍
"Pen point execution"? - your argument disproved itself.
@@joshuavanderrheede4469 really ? please explain how ? cause you "leaving" a comment claiming "disproving itself" without explaining is exactly that... pretty sloppy.
@@RevRideReason I am pretty jealous of Ti users as well, their accuracy, their logic and the way they are able to see errors where no one else does.. that is inpressive 👍
I answer a phone call, when its my paid work. Checking in on messages, even hearing a ring, feels like a wrong turn you can't quit.
Funny how this ENFP plays one of the most famous ESTJ characters. Completely upside down! :)
Colbert did the same thing.
Let me add a verse to your poem, ESFPs 🐒, ISFPs🐷, ISFJs🐶, ESFJs🐴 are all amazing and wonderful human creatures with amazing souls.
I knew my parents were ruining everything mowing the lawn all the time
Dwight in real life is Mike
So monkeys are ESFPs, jk.
my thoughts exactly...
or they're ESTP's with lead play (Se-Fe)
Hahaha my recent video on 16P "THEY'RE LYING TO YOU!!"
Just subscribed to you yesterday after the panel 🤩 salutations!
95% of that video is Se-Ti: See how all this wrong data doesn't make sense.
5% at the end is Fe: and this lying hurts people.
@Lonely Surviver 🤦🏻♂️
5:37 I literally can't stand working with a whole bunch of TeSi people at work or at home. I need to know the how and why (not just because I'm new to the job), but as Ti-dominant INTP, I excel in languages and product knowledge that few colleagues grasp.
What I got from this video..... Mmmmmm... Monke
Happy brains. This place makes me happy.
Omg I fkn love you guys together lol
So, Valentino is clearly an ESFP.
Get that child FI competition 😂😂😂😂
Happiness does come from those things though.
1:44 It's exactly the same, if not worse, in Eastern Culture. Having Status and Stuff come before Comfort, however.
6:07 Dave cracks me up
Me too my FI wife, read the friggin room 😂😂😂😂😂 her, I know I know read the room 😂
Orangutan school looks so fun
HEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH
Thanks for the marketing tips 😌
hahaha the video at the end with the monkeys made my day!
For some, having stuff doesn't bring happiness, acquiring brings it. Once you go it, now you have to go get more.
Omg Despicable Valentino XD
I have a million project ideas none of which I've ever acted on. Does this make me an Ne?
Here I am thinking I'm listening to some rando ranting about whatever and it turns out to be DWIGHT SCHRUTE. LOL
I’m here for the stories about Fuck Factory©️
This time on objective personality, Dave spills the T.
😂🤣😂🤣
So true, Te vs Ti..tho I might be slow its fecking damned annoying..
So is Dave saying that the difference between Fi and Fe is that Fi respects the vibe of others in order to allow freedom of values for all while Fe disrespects the vibe of others in order to control the vibe/values of all?
I'm guessing Fe will disrespect someone's personal vibe only if they're messing it up for the group, and Fi will respect someone's personal vibe only if they care about that person. Not sure if Fe is really more controlling, though; that might be something exclusive to observers.
@@TheGrandChieftain Fe isn’t controlling on its own. It’s Aux function is. Regardless if it’s Ni or Si (Ni is more prone to controlling though).
@@PayAttentionToThePatterns That's what I was getting at, but I wasn't being blunt about it. I wouldn't consider Ni more controlling than Si, though; they're controlling entirely different things. You can argue that the abstract world encompasses more things and hence Ni controls more, but the physical world is also more visible and tangible, so you'll actually see Si controlling more. It's whatever.
@@TheGrandChieftain I suppose also that a major difference is related to where the Fe is in the stack. Do you think Dave's criticism of the "Fe f*cks down the road" is about Fe doms? He has referred to this "F*ck factory" large family down the road before, and I'm struggling to extract the lesson he's trying to teach when he uses them as an example of Fe gone wild/wrong.
@@PayAttentionToThePatterns you are so wrong Si is.
I have this friend who just moved into a new country and 90 percent of his conversations are about how different the super are markets there, the other 10 is about social issues there and the culture and how they live and work and in general politics. He is definitely a sensor, he always asks for proof and facts and never trusts patterns (I on the other hand speak mainly about patterns and possibilities, I'm INFP, he is nothing like that). So I am between xSTJ and xSTP. The conversation about the super markets seemed hilarious to me because I wouldn't even think of that, it wouldn't be the think that'd fascinate me in a diff country. What do you guys think? Oh also he cares a lot about global issues and the news etc stuff in the real, physical world that happen in the in other countries as well as his own
That's a very specific example you gave there. Very easy to follow and not lacking in specifics. And the overview came after the details.
Excellent impression of an S Savior
dave considering the F of the neighbour
wouldnt that be in Fe rather while he has Fi savior???
Te + Fi i guess
Ooh eeh ooh ahh-ahh.
Ti-little bits at time gets the job done..
Dude reminds me of Dwight schrute
In reality people can be a very unique combination of 'functions', that are just ways to conveniently define the human brain.
Jung was alive in a very different time when people didn't change significantly during their lifetime, there was no such privilege, in the sense of access to information and experience. If one wishes to understand what his tendecies mean and produce, MBTI is great, but its not a cage.
"Monkeys are chill." Lol Depends on Which ones, because some have been observed to wage war as seen in the 70s in Africa.
Example: The Gombe Chimpanzee War
Yeah no it’s true. Te is better than Ti for getting stuff done. I admit it. It just is lol. It’s endless responsibility for the doing. Combine that with Se and holy fucking crap look out because a tornado of “do” is going to rip through your hemisphere, get out of the way, literally. But damn does stuff get done. ~ intp
It's true! ENFPs DON'T pick up the fucking phone! Why? Whyyyyy?
monkey me. me consume. me go to jungle school.
The question is: who repairs the mower?
3:27 they're dumb!
5:05 So his superpower is using the “tit” over the tet? Thanks for the laugh Dave.
you'll own nothing and be happy...... :)
"As bad as nicotine"? LOL cigarettes are bad because of the smoke 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I know doctors who even use nicotine for health improvement. Yeah it triggered me, because that girl tries to sound educational
The rumour on the internet is true, intj are always the smart ass.
-infp