FACTORY FRESH / FOXBODY BASE IDLE RESET 2.0 / FIX THAT CRAPPY IDLE!
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You should do a video where you take Andrewâs car away when heâs working; and replace the headlights.đ„đ„đđ»đđ»đđ»
Lmao! đđ€Ł yâall are brutal
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This is a excellent tutorial,. My 7 up fox recently had a lobotomy. I actually came on the channel to find one of your face idol reset videos that I used two years back. How exciting it was to find this new video.
. I'm so pumped that you redid this video when you did. ... đŻđșđČ
Ty Brewt. You always do stay on the basics of keeping these cars running right and you're all about it. You are certainly given me the ability to face any issues upcoming I appreciate you man
We tend to forget the basics over time with all this new technology these days. But itâs crazy how much can be accomplished if we slow down and learn our cars. These old systems werenât really that bad and have several work arounds that still work today.
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Thank you for actually telling the ECU acceptable TPS spread.
Very well done video. This is how Iâve fought my idle for a while now. Iâve got it exactly where I want it
This video is a great example of why Iâm subscribed. I love your videos, but you sir are a well of knowledge for the Fox Body community, and I would love to see more vids like this. You have an excellent way of explaining things.
By far one of the best DIY for Foxbody owners and so knowledgeable
Such classic knowledge that needs to be revisited often. Good Job Brew.
Thanks bro!
I just got my first Fox back in July (an '89 GT vert). The way Andrew's idles when you first adjusted it on the throttle body at 2:26 is exactly what mine does right now, especially during coldstarts (and that's AFTER it spends about two minutes bucking like it wants to shut off). All of this information is really helpful!
Thank you for this video! Gonna do this to my fox! Your videos are always awesome! Thank you for helping keep these cars alive!
Nice little covert operation good video I've gone back to your older ones that helped me so much
Thanks for this video. I just bought a 1990 SSP in Colorado and drove it home to Atlanta. Thing bucked hard when just trying to stay at a steady speed, I always had to accelerate or decelerate for it run "smooth". Also, idles at 500 when hot (has an unknown aftermarket cam). Found two massive vacuum leaks in the lower intake gaskets. Going to change those, then follow your steps in this video. Your content has been gold to me since I've never owned a Foxbody before.
EEC3. The dealer had a diagnostic machine called the SBDS. It was the size of an arcade game, like the one you put quarters in. The veteran taught me exactly the same things, back in the late 90's, a DVOM, and dial back timing light.
.51 to .99 was acceptable tps voltage. Occasionally a dead spot in egr valve position sensor would cause an errant high idle too, we would nick a little off the sensor pintle on the grinder and let it relearn.
Perfect explanation, very thorough. Thank you for the extra advice when running a cam, helps a lot. đ
This was some classic Brew2L stuff plus it was on my favorite car on the channel. Great stuff!
I used to do this to my mustang but it's been a while helped me remember the .999 for the TPS sensor thanks I was about to look this procedure up
Dropping knowledge as usual!đđŻđ„
Your first video helped me out so much, and man that couldn't be further from the truth when it comes to cammed cars. Mine has the TFS 1 in it and I finally found that sweet spot around 800rpm or so, anything below that it starts throwing a damn fit and surging and running like shit.
Glad the video helped brother! And youâre exactly right!
My trick flow is idling at 1000. it chops every tree in town. It's so sweet though and it's running so good. I'm glad you're able to have a sweet spot ith yours
You're a brave man. Going to pick up the BLACK WIDOW MOBILE in the heart of SPIDER COUNTRY!!!!!
Excellent distribution of knowledge. The earlier Fox's were a nightmare to get the idle to act right. I've got about 1,300$ in tune now and my car (heavily modified) will sometimes fall on it's face when I'm on the highway and take an exit. I downshift and use the brakes. It dies here quite often. I'll try your wisdom and I hope it acts right!
Itâs worth a try!
When doing a base idle reset you really need to unplug the tps, iac and spout connector. Set the idle screw to where the engine is barely idling around 400-500 rpm. Then plug everything back in. The reason you need to unplug everything is because all of those things will try to correct the idle as you turn the idle screw off they are plugged in.
The tps too?
@ayyy9017 yes. A base idle reset is basically setting the pure mechanical idle of the engine without any electronic control.
@@Riffs_Garage would you recommend disconnecting everything and then setting timing, tb screw etc and then turning the car off and plugging everything in afterwards?
@ayyy9017 I would set the idle first then plug everything back up and make sure the engine idles up where it's supposed to be. Then unplug the spout connector and set your base timing
I love how clean under the hood is on the retro fox
Always teaching the basics to figure out what adjustments to make for each component for what they change,
always informative. When you got Andrew's car were thinking about bombing for spiders again?
Very Good Video! Helped a lot and after watching a few times and made Base Idle reset easy.
Do you have a video on part throttle cruise jumping or bucking? Car is running good but with throttle at a steady spot, it starts bucking some unless rpm's/throttle trending up or down with pedal. Was going to check plugs and fuel pressure. No check light now after sending computer off and fixing few other items related to codes.
I love this channel.
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Very helpful thanks for the video
This is great info, thank you for putting this out there. I have a 95 with the 5.0 h.o and it supposedly has a e303 cam but is doing the idle surge and feels pretty sluggish, i would like to check the timing but the distributor is actually stuck. What would you recommend to get it unstuck?
Thank you for the video learned something new
Love the way Andrews Tires look. I have similar Eagle 4 bolt rims and want that exact look. What size are Andrews tires front and back and has he removed or flipped his quad shocks?
I have a 88Tbird stock 5.0 EFI 5spd swap, 99 Gt axle and front hubs. I have these idle problems. Thanks for video.
Man when you show Andrewâs engine bay and then show them engine bay in the retro fox, itâs so clean compared to Andrewâs. God Damn!
Hey man great video will this procedure be the same for a 90 F250 460 EFI motor thank you
Great Video...a few questions. Does the car need to be at operating temp? What are your thoughts on aftermarket throttle bodies without the small hole in the throttle blade. I'm running a 70mm and it doesn't have a hole where as the factory ones do.
Good stuff!!!
Love the videos man! I have a 93 fox.
What would cause my RPMs to hang up around 1500 when i let off the gas. Then if I blip the throttle, it returns to normal?
The bucking is what Iâm having driving around the neighborhood. I didnât know how to put it in words. Resetting the IAC as shown may help? I have installed E cam, heads, lifters, injectors, MAF, cold air intake, timing chain new IAC.
Itâs a very important point that with an aftermarket cam the idle speed must be raised above factory. How much is necessary will depend on how aggressive the cam is. Years ago my best friend and I straightened out the idle on countless modified Mustangs that we met around town. The common denominator was that the owner/builder was trying to idle the engine too low and they had the usual surging idle. Up and down, up and down. What few people realize is that when you try to idle a more aggressive camshaft too low is that it creates âintake reversionâ which is a reverse pulse through the intake tract all the way out to the air filter. This is because more aggressive cams have more valve overlap, the amount of time both valves are open at the same time as the exhaust stroke is ending and the intake stroke is simultaneously beginning. Imagine a situation where your MAF is reading incoming air one moment then suddenly not the next moment like someone turning a light switch on and off rapidly and continuously. So one moment the computer is seeing air flow from the MAF then itâs not. The computers reaction is to raise and lower the ignition timing to match and that is where you get the surging idle. Sometimes the surging is consistent and other times itâs a runaway situation where the difference between high and low grows wider and wider to the point where the low is so low the engine stalls. If you put a timing light on while the surging is happening you can watch it shoot up and down, up and down, up and down. All these people would put those goofy adjustable spacers under the IAC when the surging idle has nothing to do with the IAC. Itâs all because the ignition timing is going advance then retard because of intake reversion. You have to increase the idle speed enough to get passed the reversion to where youâre getting a consistent, continuous intake reading from the MAF and then like magic the engine will idle steadily. We typically found 850-950rpm to be the happy range depending on the cam used. All these people thought we were magicians when in reality we just understood how a more aggressive cam changes the dynamics of an engine. Intake reversion can also play hell with idle stability on carbureted engines.
I'm going to try this tomorrow I'm having a terrible trouble with my idle.
@@wtfdatsgay what fixed yours?? mine has dropped to 200-300 rpms đłđł
New subscriber here, I noticed you have done these on the 5spd cars a couple times. Is this going to be the same for AOD cars? I have a random high idle (hot or cold) and will stop if the engine is turned off then started back up and looking into it this spring.
Hey, thank you for the video. I replace the engine and basically everything. Recently put a new throttle body on followed this video. Idle is pretty good but took it out for a rip got home and the idle bogged down and the car died, I started it gave it a rev and it the idle caught itself. Does this sound like the computer is just re learning everything?
hey love ur videos been very helpful. but im currently stumpped and been tryna find a video with my problem but havnt.
so in my situation i have a 87 foxbody but car wont let me try to do timing with the spout connector removed. i even have it running and pull it out and just shuts off . been frustrating. the owner before me has a mega squirt ecm. i dunno if its cuz of that
Great video.. I tried setting the the base idle and now the engine won't start. Any suggestions on what could have happened? thanks
Hell... đThats bout what my ish sounds like after my green ass starts tryna pretend like i kno what im doing!! .đ€ŠđŒââïž LMAO fr! Thats why i come here for fxbdy wisdom!! Luv tha ch. nvr miss a vid and jus like right now, i end up rewatching most videos multiple times... I Watch the hell outta them shitz
This might be a dumb question but I just went carb on my 87 lx Iâm running a 6al box and a hei dis. What wires on the harness can I get rid of. I was keep ac I know the alt and Iâm keeping the oil pressure and coolet temp
I have a Trick Flow top end kit. I have struggeled with idle and stalling. I just got it to start and idle nice, did the base idle reset. I had no difference in rpm`s when unplugging / plugging the IAC. It idles good around 750-800, timing 12-13 and TPS 0,98. But if i rev it and let go of gas it stalls, wont even surge. Also when releasing clutch it stalls. It sometimes struggles with start up and idling but ends up idling perfect, but stalls if i rev it and let go of gasđ€·ââđ€·ââđ€·ââđ€·ââ
If I have a sound system, should I unplug my power wire running from the amplifiers to the battery when running the car with no load?
I just did this with a new IAC. it was idling way high so I unplugged the IAC, it dropped down where it should be and when I cut the car off, plugged the IAC back in and restarted it, the idle shot way up.
Back to the drawing board....
Nice. Helpful.
Timing without spout should be at 10* from factory, itâs the default when spout is removed. And once plugged in it advances to where it needs to be. This save a bunch a time.
Would the basics of this still apply to me having a cammed 5.0 in an Explorer application. Major difference being I have ignition coil packs instead of a distributor?
After you take it again and replace those headlights @Kevin wines suggested you do, you should detail the engine bay for him! LoL
I have a quick question. I can not get my tps below 4 volts for some reason. I'm not sure if it's something I have done or what. The timing is set right so I'm lost.
my pcv valve was bad and it caused me all kinds of grief with idle realized it was bad and replaced it idles perfect now I could get it to idle for little bit think I finally got it go for a drive and it would start acting up again it was so frustrating the old saying if you shake the pcv and it rattles it's good not true
Iâm having idle problems with my 95. Iac unplugged it idles rough and sounds like itâs cammed. Which guy i got it from said it had work done. Iac plugged in it shoots up to 1,500 rpm at idle. Iâve tried everything Ik. It also smells like itâs burning very rich and smokes when u romp on gas
I've been having issues with the iac valve I've replaced it 3 times even got the original part.number Motorcraft from summit racing runs great for a month then dies at cold start and will stay running when warmed up any help is greatly appreciated
Youâre a cool ass dad, man.
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I need help with my idle issue that just started on my 1990 gt, it will idle high around 1200 and sometimes up to 2000-2500. Iâve set timing, factory set idle. When it idles high, I can turn the car off and re start it and it will idle back down again. Replaced Iac and tps with no change.
Do you set tps voltage with idle screw all the way out? Or use the idle screw to achieve your .98 volts?
Hey bro,i just bought a fox body and it has a coil pack, it's the same procedure???
How much timing should I put on a 95 mustang gt with full exhaust and cobra lower and upper?
Would this apply to a 1995 mustang with stock computer and a foxbody throttle body set up?
What is the best wide band sensor kit to use with the mega squirt?
Can I do this on a car that has a tune? My car idles and runs great but has idle hang when I rev it. Iâve tried motor craft and aftermarket iac and no help
Man I could really use your help with my 89 gt 5.0 I'm redoing most of the car but there's a timing issue and a no start no fuel pump when hot
Anyone know the secret to get a seat belt to retract..my kid pulled it out to the max...not looking forward to pulling of the moldings from the door to the hatch
My car sat for years and I got it started but it idles super high around 2k. Could this be the issue or maybe sticking TB or IAC?
Hey Brew, Iâve got an IAC that sits at 5-6V when running, is that normal?
Thank you for that information. I have done the base idle reset before, but I never shut off the engine before reconnecting the IAC. I am curious though, if I connect the IAC while the engine is running, will shutting it down and restarting it do the same thing, or does it need to be disconnected when it is shut down? Also, my car seems to be running really rich. I am running a basically stock rebuilt 1986 HO with an A9P (automatic) in my 1967 Galaxie 500. The only mods I have from the Mustang are long tube headers and the smog pump and cats removed. It seems to run great, but really rich. Any help would be appreciated.
You need to space the O2 sensor to trick the readings for the computer.
my car has a b cam and the rpms fluctuate from 800 to 1000 when at idle. is that normal?
My fox is on jack stands is that good?
Great video, would you happen to be able to do one for Carburetors? How to adjust your carb for idle? Have an 85 GT new to learning about Carb cars
Itâs been a while but Iâm sure we could do something on Andrewâs carb fox
@@BREW2LFOXBODY thanks huge fan
Check out Thunderhead289 on CZcams. He specializes in carburetors and how to set them up.
Hey, you know about all these threads on Facebook and all that stuff not getting real answers is there anyway I can throw you a picture and see if Iâm completely screwed 1989 Mustang GT 5 L little bit of an accident
what can I do without a timing gun to set mine
Same procedure for 1994 5.0 ?
Does this reset also apply to 94 to 95 Mustang gt ?
Would a Power Probe be ok to use ?
does a base idle reset effect your tune?
Watch that fan blade,work from the left or right side,
The same way the factory idle reset is done I wonder if it makes any difference if you do it when running a Terminator X I'm going to have to give it a try and see
It doesnât work with the TX like that. Just do the TPS setup and youâre good to go. Throttle position can definitely help though
I need to bring my car to you lol
2 years later and after modifying my fox Iâd like to this video done again with a h.c.i fox.
I have one screwed up Foxbody, I wont lie.
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brew, what socket size are you using on the throttle body screw? im pretty sure my screw is either broken or somewhat different. have never been able to mess with it because it doesn't look like an actual screw, just the threads basically. I got a bcam so its hard enough to make it idle without warming it up a little
Mine is a 10mm but if itâs aftermarket it more than likely has a Allen socket at the end of the stud.
@@BREW2LFOXBODY just checked, I think it use to be a screw, no way its an allen. things been rusted and snapped at the head, i'll have to find a way to get it out and replace. Thanks Brew, great new base idle vid!
Iâve done the base idle but hot start isđ© with surging that sometimes kills the engine. It was suggested that I start the car with the alternator disconnected and see. Unplugged the alternator and it starts right up and idles like BUTTER! Plugged it back in⊠surging! Alternator or wiring? Opinions please and thank you!
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Did you figure this out
@BREW2L great video. Do you know if this can be used on the f series trucks with speed density?
đ your gonna have a base idle reset series
Looks that way lol
Hey. Long time watcher. Looking to building a garage. I was wondering what the dimensions of the building is?
Thanks! Itâs a 30x30
My biggest issues is now that I've done the Idle Reset, The Spout doesn't seem to do anything. When I tune the car to 12-14Âș it runs just ok. I noticed my Timing does not move with or without the spout connected. RPMS doe not move when it's connected or removed. I've tried a jump wire and checked volts on the spout and everything seem to work. Timing does not move with or without spout. Help. đđŒ
It was the computer issue for those that might be experiencing the same issue.
Send me all the info on your car and I could try and help. That is if you're still needing some help, if you got it then right on man. đȘđ» Let me know either way, cheers! đ»
Andrew has a great little notch there donât he?
He does đ
You should never touch the screw on the throtalbody!!! Now its really messed up. Throtalbodys are adjusted on light table and now you go turn it so if u set it at 98 tps its going to be off because u turned the screw and of course its idle is to fast.. recalibrate lol... ok
Come do mine next please
Can u do something about TFI overheating?
They make a TFI heat sink relocation kit you can buy.
Take Andrew's fox and put new oversized tires and brakes disc all four
Can you do a base idle reset if the car isnât fully warmed up?
If at all possible get it to operating temp first.
@@BREW2LFOXBODY gotcha, trying to fix the bugs in my hci fox after installing a chip. Appreciate all of your videos
Base it brah
It needs a terminator x
Its already dark outside took all day and night for you to halfway keep it running. I bet wot is all messed up.
Can you please Polish them Headlights!! đł
He needs to buy some! I ainât working on them đđł
What would cause it to surge at idle?
Typically timing or throttle adjustment is what Iâve seen cause surging over the years. But other factors could also be causing issues as well. Bad sensors or IAC motor
@@BREW2LFOXBODY still does it if I unplug the iac
I donât wanna bother anybody or take their time. I just want some truth to be told to me. I think I already know whatâs the answer is, but can I shoot you guys couple of pictures? The car beautiful itâs not itâs worth trying to save. Itâs just I donât quite know, itâs about 85% OK but you know with Foxbody đŠđŠ it takes 5% of screw one, but Iâm not quite sure with this in particular situation. I canât get a straight answer out to anybody.
Watch the accufab video on CZcams about turning the screw. Big no no!!!!
I only seem to be able to get .20 on my TPS when I check the voltage. KOEO... and from eyeballing it it seems impossible to get even close to any acceptable ranges.
Itâs possible that the throttle blade needs to be adjusted and then perform a base idle reset.
If i adjust the idle screw will it be idling way high? When i manually open the throttle I see it change accordingly... the preload you speak of putting on the TPS, is it a very small amount?
Unplug the iac and adjust the throttle so that it idles around 600-700 or so. Then switch the car off, plug in the iac again and start the car back up. You should be about right there.
Has an anderson n41 cam, I've had trouble getting it to be happy below 850-ish. Am I just over thinking the TPS stuff?
Itâs going to want to idle around 850 to 900 more than likely. So set your idle around 700-750 with the iac unplugged and you should be good. Then just make sure the tps is between.5 and 1 volt