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War Thunder Guide #5.0 - Getting More Wins And Kills With Target Priority
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- čas přidán 12. 08. 2024
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0:00 *Intro
2:49 *Basics on equal grounds
7:13 Basic with different plane variants
12:06 *Basics with different plane types
15:45 Intermediate examples with different plane types
20:56 *Basic team fighting
26:22 Intermediate team fighting
30:29 Mistakes while helping a teammate #1
36:20 Mistakes while helping a teammate #2
41:53 Mistake when going for easy targets
44:21 Mistakes when chasing faster planes
49:02 Mistakes when trying to be a hero
50:49 Mistake when going for a non-threat
52:00 Round up and summary
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time to watch this ten times over and then immediately forget it like a lemming in an RB match lmao
Haha same
rofl, that is exactly as it happens : D
😂accurate
Me 😅
defyn trying to explain something thats more feeling and skill learnt through time ..... legend
People say it's feeling and skill learned through time because they want to excuse their lack of due diligence.
@@HenriFaust my in game name is mc_dumble i play usually with over a 60% wr, iv played over 9000 games less than 20 mins in a bomber a little more in attackers and 90% in fighters . i have given u my ingame name so you can see for yourself . every situation is different and is all mostly skill and experience and feeling . watching the enemy to see if they know what there doing . so yeah i stand by this comment
@@davidtaylor4308 Agreed. You never really know if the other player is making a beginner mistake or baiting you. Every scenario is different. It's not like you're down at Reserve planes seal clubbing. It's what makes this interesting.
"Spitflyers.. Spitfires."
English is DEFYNatly not his native language.
@@guohongli5727 I think it's a diss to Spit_Flyer
@@kingghidorah8106 I know, just wanted to use the Definitely joke for a long time
@@guohongli5727 ah. Also duck autocorrect
“This game takes common sense”
And that’s when I found out I wouldn’t be a good War Thunder player
30:29 I have been rammed from behind more times than I would like by a "helpful" teammate going twice my speed trying to steal my kill, you don't even need an enemy on your six.
For me its friend who's going twice the speed into my gun.. ez kill for me.. ---silverlion
With friends like these, who needs enemies!
In my situation I always try to save my teammates, and once a K4 trying to kill a P51H was getting shit on by an A7M2 and I came to help, killing the A7M. Buddy got slightly damaged and came back to team kill me lmao
My friend likes to do that. So I like to fly right above him, turn straight down and chop his propeller off.
I don't know if I missed it, but think you didn't point out my personal biggest pet peve when helping people, people getting chased by a slower plane that is outside gun range, I dive in to help them in a brick of a plane, and *just* before I get within gun range myself they figure now is the time to start turning hard, having the enemy follow, and effectively making them dodge me without possibly even having seen me in the first place.
Forgot about that
But yeah it's pretty annoying
I don't want to sound arrogant but what I've learned from the years of playing the game is the fact that you should never ever rely on your team or blame it. Actually you play as the third side of the conflict. And the help from blue is a welcome surprise but not something you'd take as granted.
@@jangozubr almost 11 years mate, since the very beta - and I still can't get used to winning in spite of my teammates rather that due to their help. Can never rely on ya bois to do the right thing unless you're the one actually screaming instructions at them through the mic
@@jangozubri’m sorry you feel that way but you’re completely right. when i play tho i try to help my teammates whenever i can. i kinda treat it like real life idk maybe because i’ve admired the planes each country has had in real life. but I’m not nearly as experienced as you guys since i play on console
1:11. I really hope people actually learn from those tips. there were countless times where there were dangerous planes at high alt which are the biggest threat in the long run but no. team decides a 288 at 2km alt is the best target they could all dogpile on.
Well according to them the Junkers are more dangerous since they have a deadly turret in the tail... (how ironic that they proceed to chase them on their ass)
It's a fucking joke in my team. Anytime my team chases 288 they get gunned down to either half of chasers are dead and the other half are crippled and behind enemy lines. And if my team ignores them they win the game by being a proper gunship
@@piscessoedroen but yeah, despite four fully loaded Ju288 can't carry a match and they get easily killed upon takeoff Germany is OP and Russia has biased vehicles, America suffers please give F14 Tomcat
@@kingghidorah8106 true
Unfortunately the grind, especially for SL at higher tiers, is the culprit here. I've been playing wt for a long time now. I know for a fact winning the game is the best way to grind in theory, but since all I take out most of the time is my premium Sabre, to grind SL, I often find myself going after low altitude bombers at the start of the match, get killed, and start a new match asap. It sucks but I actually earn more SL per unit time playing this way.
I much prefer Sim because enduring confrontation is, imo, a much better game type than rb air, just can't make as much SL in Sim because the repair cost is 5 times higher than rb. It's sad really, WT has so much potential but unfortunately we have the same game types for years, which, frankly suck. In order to grind more and more in the shitty game type that is air rb. I so wish air rb was enduring confrontation, but unfortunately I don't think most of the player base likes EC.
I remember one war thunder youtuber Green fury i think he was who reviewed clips of people's matches who wanted to improve.
He pointed out what they were doing right,what wrong and what they could have done and what did they do to get then killed in that match. I think a series like that would be a very good way to teach players.
but Green Fury does have quite much more time than Defyn. Defyn is still studying aeronautical engineering and serving at hospitals moving beds here and there cause the pandemic is pretty bad in Amsterdam
I don't study engineering, i don't live anywhere near Amsterdam nor is the pandemic bad over here right now
And no i don't have an interest in reviewing clips anymore
I did an episode, but it's 90% of people sending me there high kill games to flex. Even when half of them aren't good games.
Makes it a waste of time for me
@@DEFYN the tables have turned
@@kingghidorah8106 this man is writing fanfic fr
@@Hugealligator254 turbo necro
love your videos, especially when they are 1h long :)
Thx mate. This helped me get consistent 3 kills per battle.
hah I just get a couple of 1v1s and die lmao
defyn if you want to keep the background locked click on the layer in the bottom right and press the lock icon just above it. hope it helps.
Woooo 1 hour Defyn video!
Rewatched this again. Thanks for the detailed situation analyses and taking the time to share these by the way, I apply these without thinking now, and add more situations and variables in my head as I go about killing or dying.
So many "This guy" could have been spared if you just numbered the aircrafts. Would have made it easier to follow in the furball scenarious as well.
Another thing I'd suggest highlighting: don't go in on a target at the same time. If you and a teammate are BnZ a fighter, go in turns. This guarantees a kill; while they are slow and in a turn to avoid your teammate they won't be in a position to either: avoid you, get guns on your teammate, or get guns on you after your pass, because if you miss your teammate will likely be in another pass.
Can't tell you how many fighters I've killed cause they came after me at the same time.
Easier said then done unless you're in a squad
@@liamboyle9199 No, it's pretty easy. Just don't follow the person diving in.
@@danaolsongaming ok yes
... but that doesn't stop the other case of what if you're first😂😂
And yes you're thinking well never go first but sometimes action needs to be swiftly implemented and that can mean acting first.
@@liamboyle9199 then you just zoom away and let the other person take the next pass before you?
You're making this more complicated than it needs to be lol
@@danaolsongaming
I 100% know what you're on about, it's the right thinking.
Im just gonna stop, I don't think you'll accept my point of view hahaha
One hour long Defyn video?!?!? Fuck yeah😃
This is one of bests guides on your channel
Hope next will be as good as this one ;)
Thank you! I will probably end up watching this many, many times.
I do believe in a very important note defyn said. Adaptability. There are numerous scenarios and its very important to adapt to every situation
Honestly i love those tactic videos. Wouldnt mind if you were to become a tank player too :)
Trying to get better at it as we speak
I don't want to make guides on it untill i am confident enough
@@DEFYN can't wait for the guides!
Thank you Defyn, 1000’s of hours in I can watch this and see myself making all the mistakes you mentioned and find a way to correct. I am sure you spent hours making this so thanks again.
DEFYN has blessed us with a hour of amazing footage...
Btw maybe stream some raw footage?
(When you have time of course)
Ah yes the best guides on you tube have returned. Pfff who cares about fancy videos when you have photoshop and MS paint
One of the best explanations I have ever seen (at least for me). The sketches helped immense understanding the situation. I have also noticed that you used flaps very often in turn fights when you have more energy than the opponent. Thank you for your videos which i am currently digging through. I am a medicore/good CAS pilot but bad in air RB dogfights. You tutuorials will help to improve even if i struggel all the time in estimating enemy plane capabilities. THANKS!
I would absolutely watch a full lecture series like this
got an ace while watching this in the background, good stuff xD
these are the best for some of us, you know. thanks for sharing!
Great job, your work is apprecieted!
I feel like people in lobbies got better after this vid.
I always love how people with a disadvantage in a 1v1 dive away at 700kph, and expect you to save them... In a Yak.
Great video!! I play ground forces realistic. When I approach the battle space in an aircraft I climb and look toward their spawn. I look for the dots of other aircraft. I also look down to the actual battle ground and note the aircraft in a dive or climbing out. Once I have a snap shot I decide how I’m going to attack. So let’s say there are 2 aircraft diving strafing and climbing and one coming in from the spawn. The one inbound is who I watch closely. I don’t fly into the battle space but I skirt it (Also keeping tabs on the 2 strafing). If the guy coming from the spawn is heading in my direction I’ll climb some more and try to keep my E up. If he also dives in I look at all three and look at wing positions and direction they are flying. Many time you can get two with the proper timing. Once I attack I WEP out and extend and climb back to altitude. I call this my reset. Also I do not push a bad position. If I don’t have a good alignment I disengage and power out. Many times I push a bad position and crash or lose so much E I get crushed.
This is fantastic stuff my son
Thanks Defyn. This is gold for me!
This is really good info, thx
Nice
Thanks for sharing!!! Remarkable gift for me. You are a true hero Defyn!
thnx man, really cool
Nice work! Hope more people can see this and stop diving for a attacker in group at start of matches.
Damn!!! Had to look twice ❤️
Watched the whole thing, whole reason I'm here is to hear your explanations don't doubt yourself
Great job
Looking forward for the other topics. Nice!
Verry helpful, I like that u dont just play and say something
Thx this helped a lot 🙏
An hour long video, wow nice surprise. Also, does anyone think the T-2 is worth getting now that it's at 9.7?
Ye
Ye
Yes you never get uptiered to 10.7 and you outrun 90% the jets you face
great vid, I just think the aircraft should be a bit smaller so u have more space on the canvas. I think it will make it less convoluted and easier to understand, also think it might make it easier for you to explain things
❤️
I really appreciate the effort you invest on making hour-long videos full of fundamental information to make us get better at this game... for free. Thanks Defyn.
This man replaced long5hot, thank you for doing this stuff
Well a guide on how to start a match would be great
Very helpful.
while I may in some cases disagree on execution, the reasoning makes perfect sense to me. Problem is, many of your advice and the points you make imply that your team would make a reasonable choice and that you may expect them to behave in certain way - when it simply isn't the case.
Entire team engaging easy - nay, even helpless targets,- while exposing themselves to enemy escorts is an undying classics of both AB and RB - and the harm of it should be self evident! Or friendlies running to the map's border while screaming for help - I mean, do you seriously expect me to play catch with you and whoever tails you? Turn to me, then I'll help...this understanding should be basic knowledge, without which people shouldn't be allowed to play above rank II...
Anyhoo, I've come here in hopes of learning something new - and while I didn't I was reinforced in my understanding ;) I wish you well and I thank you for your effort in sharing the knowledge that's supposed to be hard earned. If only more people watched it and made use of it)
from myself I'd like to add that target prioritization takes yet another form in jet AB, where you actually have access to information on enemy team setup.
Who has AAMs, who has only one aircraft and won't come back once killed et cetera - takes like 5 to 10 seconds to browse the list in the beginning and I can already predict the outcome before anyone spawns. Yet, I regularly see people ignoring that one jet lobbing missiles from stratosphere instead of shutting him up once and for all...
So definitely go after the lead guy 2 allies are chasing 😂🍻
you can apply this target priority even to tanks... imagine you kill the wrong one first and it also makes boom
Just started playing. Ilinlocked my 1st plane. Would you recommend unlocking a whole tier before moving on to the next one?
34:35 thank you. I've been trying to tell this to people, specially in jets. They're flying low on the deck, and beg for help. Then they fly directly under me, which is the best defensive maneuver AGAINST me. And then they complain that I didn't help them.
And it's even worse at top tier, where I could have missiled em had they turned the other way...
This is really nice and cool and well done. The problem is that matchmaking is so fucked up rn i wont ever find spit vs 109 lol (obv jk rly nice vid)
Looking forward to how to slap fighters with Ju288c tutorial :)
I play the game and watch ur videos
its baffling how many teammates in need of help just straight turning into my line and force me to pitch up then split s to get on the attackers 6
and most of the time teammate dies
oh and the ima go diving right when my teammate gets in gunrange guy
@@I39393I Istg this happens to me a lot when I'm in the Yak-3, ironically because it sucks at diving. Can't even count how many times this happened and the teammate yelled at me for "not helping fast enough".
Can tell you put a lot of work into this 👍
I still didnt get how to dogfight and the maneuvre yet.. but sure.. let me watch this one
How do I dogfight a cl13A ai, I always seem to be ramming them because of there erratic turning.
But what do I do when my whole team dives on the same IL2 or Wyvern, and I'm left in a furball with 4 109's? It happens so damn often.
It matters not how much I set target priority, there will ALWAYS be a man who has went un marked the entire match suddenly pop up 3km behind me during a dogfight.
Hi I watch your videos quite few times it turn me from dieing immediately after take off to get 1 kill or 2 but there are situation that I cannot find out why I die, after all I'm still new. Can you help me please.
im a noob but when someone is on my teammates tail while he is attacking another plane i always go for the rear one to try and save him and because im a noob he still ends up dying but getting the kill for the front one
What if I'm in a 190 flying at 400kph @3000m and a zero comes at me from 2.5km away 3500m at my 8 o'clock
I can't zoom away because he has more energy and I can't turn because he has better turn rate
do G 14 pls
3:18 VROOM
The motto is take care of the bois and they'll take care of you (sometimes).
xd... nice, greetz picasso
Is the following a reasonable assessment? It seems that also having good crews is essential.
If you're not particularly good at aiming and maneuvering , then you can get some help by having better crew skills. Having a maxed-out crew (Crew Level 75) who are Aces will help a lot, particularly in keeping your bombers going and defending themselves. But grinding XP points will take you forever. If you're fairly decent at playing, then you could earn, say 25 to 50 XP points per game, per crew. But you need 33,881 XP points to get to Crew Level 75! That would take you somewhere between 700 and 1400 games to achieve. Per crew! You need to throw money at it... Unless you're 14 and spend eight hours a day, every day on this game and are quite happy to grind.
Crews are definitely very important
Without premium or premium planes its basically not grindable.
Just try to only use 1 air crew per nation
Hs 129 (75mm) vid pls
Edit: autocorrect
Can you make a video representation of it in a game. I’m doing what I do in math right now with this. Watch it over and over. Then somehow forget.
hey defyn, i have a question for you, i have a replay of me playing f104, getting 6kills and still being against 2 f5c, but i got gaijined by invisible missiles, can i send the replay to you?
How are they invisible? Because I doubt they were. I see this complaint a lot but the missiles are easily visible when launched.
@@danaolsongaming ping
@@birthdwt8859 must be playing with 150+ ping then
What do you do if you are 1v5 or 3v5 and can't see anyone from the enemy team? (For example due to clouds - I think the bright spots have been fixed.)
Try to hear their engines and get lucky.
8:49 whoops the background IS not supposed to die i tought it would say
Can you do one of these but for AI targets
AI targets? What problem are you having with those?
@@gurazeez hard to kill
@Desi there is usually so many of them, im not sure which to go for
you dive to someone, he random spray on you at 4 km, 1 shot you
thst wt aircombat experience
28:35 im not an expert but i have over 3k hours of fly in War thunder so i can determine what's going on when im watching it by far
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add cc please DEFYN
I prioritize the OBJECTIVE which is BOMBING POINTS, learn to PTFO fighter noobs
But doing that objective barely helps wins the match.
Killing other planes and ground attacking is much more useful than bombing bases.
@@newyorkpersnssnssnsnsn depends on the map too
If "destroy all bomb targets" Isn't on list of objectives, that 4 man squad of strategic bombers is gonna be ultra useless and a huge liability, but on other maps, they may even kill your airfield if your team didn't have any good interceptors.
On maps with bases and airfileds in RB 3 or 4 bombers can win without downing a fighter in minutes. Especially on low tier with 3 f22222222222s. 52 100lbers a piece. Each base takes 6-8 100lbs then 35+ 100lbs for airfield. Easy peasy.....
@@dl1277 i got a random free talisman for that cancerous plane
Just flying straight and then pressing Spacebar from time to time is kinda boring :/ and when a fighter dives on you, it's just game over, no defensive turrets will save you.
And their repair cost is ridiculous.
1st comment
TLDR: Get good aim or else u ded.
Cool story dude, could made a one minute video and said "teamates are your priority target, always shoulder shoot missles, and when in doubt fly infront of teamates trying to steal their kill."
Cant believe you would drag a video out like this smh my head.
@Desi no I am serious. I am not doing the funny.
Brilliant video!
42:00 god, every time I see this I just want to leave the game right here and right now.
interesting but boring. Sure i like your works
RB is way too hard
early