Are Athletic Bilbao About To Abandon Their Famous Philosophy? 😳 |
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- čas přidán 27. 12. 2023
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Athletic Club, commonly known to English speakers as Athletic Bilbao, subscribe to a unique policy when it comes to recruitment.
But could they soon change it?
Let's find out 🤝
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This deserves to be a full length video
There's one Tifo video about it.
Hitc sevens has made a detailed video about ot
I feel like the strict philosophy was why they managed to achieve so much, they had to get the most out of all the players they signed and couldn't just replace them or spend more money on someone better.
I've always been surprised how well they do with the policy
Never been relegated!
Expanding to grandparents is a no brainer. Removing the policy altogether would be to their detriment though
As an athletic fan, I see this as the first step towards removing the philosophy . In more than 125 years the rule hasn't even been written and it has worked well.
Just like the video says, not the majority of fans want the policy to change.
It appears in fifa they mad that vote long ago 😂😂😂 they be signing anyone in career mode. Totally breaks the immersion personally.
I think its incredible what they’ve achieved and their rule for signing players is to be admired. Dont see any other club with principles like this
I like Athletic just becouse this "rule". I like teams with DNA
I love that the Athletic has grown into such a huge outlet now that they've got their own football team in Bilbao
Basque grandparents would honestly be a great idea don't see how that really ruins the current philosophy given they're just following the national team
It's the first step towards removing entirely the rule.
@@ander4163 no tf it’s not
I mean, that could pretty radically change things. Reminder that by the same rules, Matty Cash is eligible for Poland and Ashleigh Plumptre and Ross Barkley are both eligible to play for Nigeria despite being very much English.
Obviously Barkley played for England, but it could get to a point where half of Spain and France are eligible, not to mention the rest of the world. Also deciding lineages like that gets messy.
@@Billiamwoods I don’t think those reminders change anything for me tbf. Ross Barkley should be eligible for Nigeria the same as anyone who’s a direct descendant of Nigeria. Literally not one generation between him and a native Nigerian so why would it be strange he can play for them internationally? Olise grew up in the UK and could represent 4 countries including Nigeria and Algeria but he chose France. It wouldn’t be weird if Cash played for Poland. I was born in the US but I’m first generation why would it make sense to say I can’t play for my parents country?
@@Billiamwoods I also don’t know what you mean by Barkley is very much English. He isn’t any more English than Ademola Lookman who plays for Nigeria or Dom Solanke who decided to play for England etc. i get what your tryna say but I don’t think players should be internationally bound to where they grew up
Fun fact -Bixente Lizarazu is the only player to be an outsider to play for bilbao ( his french and basque).😊
Amorebieta...
Laporte...
Ganea...
So your wrong
@@DanielPlaysThis yeah most probably because I researched this 12/13 years back🤣🤣🤣🤔.
Best policy in football.....every club should practice it.
Athletic club is actually a sleeping giant. They have a great stadium, good recruitment and the fanbase is insane. If they slightly change their policy they could be very strong.
Con cantera y afición, el Athletic campeón!
It seems reasonable to have the same standard as the national team. It was probably a mistake not to write this down at some point in the last 100 years. I hope they stay up regardless.
lol u want them to write down racist discrimination on paper? so they cab get sued lol😂😂😂
@zenastronomy
If it's such a "core tenant" they probably should have.
@@zenastronomyAthletic famous for being massive racists, especially with the Williams brothers starting every game. You sound like a Vox voter.
@@WhtAbtBob10 it's like France. they practice racism but don't talk about it on paper so they can legally deny it
@@Caoimhin1909 I'm not Spanish or athletic supporter. just found ops comment funny. as fans don't seem to realise that what athletico have been doing for 100 years is effectively an indirect form of racism/discrimination. and that's why it was never put on paper.
It would make sense. Asensio formerly of Real Madrid who's father was an actual socio of the club wasn't deemed Basque enough just because he was born and brought up outside the region 🤷♀️🤷♀️
If they do, then they deserve to get relegated to the Tercera Federacion, the 5th tier, because you can’t abandon such an integral part of who you are as a football club, without getting the necessary retribution hurled back at you
Their policy will never change
does anyone have a list of players that would become eligible if this were to go through?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_Basque_ancestors
Scroll to athletes, anybody with footballer next to them should become eligible
@@mr.dappermarsh3213 that list barely covers anyone, but nice to know Ochoa would’ve been eligible
usually I use lists found on soFIFA for Basque players but I doubt any of them will cover this unlikely rule change
In the past Forlan and Zabaleta would have been two notable examples
Not an Athletic Bilbao fan, or from Basque Country, but from the outside looking in, Grandparents seems like a smart idea
As far as I know it will be the Basque regional team not national
As an athletic fan, I see this as the first step towards removing the philosophy . In more than 125 years the rule hasn't even been written and it has worked well.
been following athletic for years, they’re having their best season since the bielsa days n have a few class young players like unai gomez. all they need is a few seasons above sociedad n they’ll be able to poach a few their players again i imagine (which would make them easily able to compete for top 4) so i don’t see the point in abandoning the rule now. plus it brings massive benefits to em too, as a result of rarely buying anyone they v rarely sell players so have been able to hold onto players like unai simon, nico and inaki williams where any other club of their level would’ve probs lost em, and even when they do sell they get massive fees like w kepa n to some extent laporte
Just moving with the times.
As a huge Athletic fan who was born and raised in the US with a Basque mother (meaning I would not be eligible to play for Athletic) I hope this policy does not get passed. The beauty of Athletic is that all the players on the team have a large connection to the Basque Country whether it be the fact that you were born there or spent time as a child growing up there. The more loose you allow this interpretation to become the less the significance of this club and its philosophy becomes. That's not to say that there aren't or hasn't been valid alterations but I personally believe that only needing to have Basque grandparents is way to loose, I mean at that point you're 2 entire generations removed from the Basque Country and it's culture.
I’m not a traditionalist, far from it but I think there’s something super admirable about this club tradition that should never be lost. It won’t make them more successful because unless they’re bought by Saudi Arabia, they won’t be getting any players that are heads and shoulders better than what they’ve currently got in the Basque Country. So just keep your traditions and hold off the money men as long as possible
I mean grandparents is only a twice removed, so it is incredibly close, plus still basque, altough they are a succesful club so maybe it aint necesarry to change
The Athletic making a video on Athletic
Don’t abuse the link for Shorts. It’s disingenuous to link to another Short. A bad look for Tifo, Athletic
The reason Laporte played for Athletic has nothing to do with his grandparents, which I highly doubt they even were Basque, but yet another non-written "policy" of our philosophy, the one that says that players who had been in the lower categories of the team for more than two years (or any other Basque team), are considered eligible for the first team. This was firstly considered for kids who were not born here but had to move to the region for whatever the reason. In Laporte's case though, I believe the club took advantage of the laxity of this non-official policy to bring a player that probably had already been scouted previously by the club.
In regards to the grandparents' case, it is something that could be debated and accepted after studying the case, since many of those kids have the club rooted inside themselves and their families probably deeper than a Basque kid born in another Basque province, who is more likely going to grow up supporting Osasuna, Real Sociedad, Alaves...
Basque get you independence
It's frankly amazing how often the Athletic gets the most simple facts wrong. The map shown isn't correct since it's missing a part of Navarra and if I'm not mistaken, also a chunk of Álava. So simple to not be wrong yet y'all are spreading misinformation.
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Relegation? They’re 5th?
Its def discriminatory though.
Relegation? There 5th
Basque national team? Lol you know it’s a region of Spain, not it’s own country..
A place can be a country without being a nation state, e.g. England, Scotland.
Would rather be a psg than athletic bilbao, bunch of losers
As F1 driver Carlos Sainz said: STOP INVENTING!
Their policy is bad, nationalist, and obsolete. The football world is global, I hope they change that soon.
And become just another club fighting for mid table?
@@penaltygallery isnt it what they do every single year?
@@eduardomartins92they’re the third most successful team in la liga history and more clubs should adopt similar approaches in terms of developing local players and rarely supplementing with top talent. Much better than the richest teams winning every year but I’m sure your into that
@@dark40010 just like Nottingham Forest F.C., they don’t win a national league in a long long time. Haha u don’t know shit about me, I am not for this discriminatory practice.
A good policy.
It does surprise me that teams eg Manchester United or Ipswich Town etc (not a football fan, I think the sport should be banned due to links with alcoholism and violence) can claim to be representative of the town/city. Yet the players are purchased from around the country/world.
Rather defeats the objective of the team being a local team.
There should be a rule that you are either born in the area, or you have lived in the area for at least 5 years before being classed as able to represent the area in a professional sports team.
So, good on this club in the video that believes that its name and whomit represents is vital to its identity.
Every other club, well you don't have the right to carry the name of the town/city/ region you proport to represent as your players aren't from that area, but purchased from elsewhere.
? If even the army recruiting people who weren't born to fight for a country, as well as companies who have strong ties with a country ( think apple for example of Google), recruit foreigners, why clubs, who in their core are companies and businesses as well, wouldn't do the same? It would kill football as we know itand a crucial part of the excitement is seeing how players from abroad handle it here. I imagine the premier league in England with only English players. Boring as hell. Won't even say team like Ipswich like you said with only players from Ipswich. They would probably disappear.
there is a policy in the premier league that you need at least i think 7 homegrown players in your squad
@morgancarvalho4408 well it is pointless supporting a team from a town when the town is not represented.
But then again football is literally the worst sport in the world.
My point stands, you have literally said it is not a sport but a business.
@morgancarvalho4408 it would make it better. Towns competing against towns. Local rivalries.
At the moment nobody cares who wins or loses as it is not important for local pride