Universal EV Charging from 1 Outlet
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Synopsis:
The NEMA 14-50 receptacle (followed closely by the NEMA 6-50) is the most popular EV charging outlet on the market for its simplicity, durability, and versatility. For those looking for non-proprietary or mobile solutions to charging their EV, it opens the market wide open to select the features that suit the customer’s needs, without paying for the features they don’t.
In this video, Joel will install the NEMA 14-50 circuit and receptacle through conduit for a crisp-looking, protected end result without needing to bore through any walls.
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Outline:
0:00 - Introduction
1:07 - Tools & Materials
4:33 - Shockflo Unboxing
5:26 - Project Layout
5:56 - Conduit from the Main Panel
7:44 - Bending Conduit
9:52 - Running Wire
10:45 - Wire Terminations in a NEMA 14-50 Receptacle
13:30 - Receptacle Face Plate
14:41 - Wire Terminations in the Main Panel
15:39 - Plug-In & Testing
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What's your favorite mobile EV charger?
OpenEVSE, one of the few that can be used out of the box at 48A on a receptacle.
Tesla mobile charger, still less expense than the completion & better quality.
And no adapter needed unless you buy an outdated, poorly designed EV.
THE standard is now NACS (3400), Tesla.
I like to mount the charger at eye level when it has a display. You should show the use of the torque driver for those who have never used them. also great job stressing the use of the correct outlet!
1:52 question please?! Why all do you prefer a folding rule as opposed to a tape measure 🤔? Just curious please. TIA I hope.
Nice to see some improvements in this installation, vs some of the previous EV charging videos:
1) THHN in external conduit, vs cable bundles
2) deep 4x4 box, with box grounding screw(s)
3) corrected appalling lack of Coriolis force jokes in all previous videos
😂
Where can one purchase the deep electrical box you used in the project?
That’s a 4-11/16th box we get from supply houses
I'm a pro electrician (but I do DIY a lot of stuff lol), and I think if a homeowner or DIYer is going to be doing much work with conduit it's probably worth it for them to get a bender. they're not that expensive and an ideal or southwire one will do just fine - no need for name brand when it comes to something simple like a bender. however that does not apply for most other hand tools - buy a good brand and only buy it once people!
Dose it need gfci protection in garage?
Mobile chargers usually already provide gfci protection
@@R900DZ so I was searching for awnsers. If it's hard wired to charger no protection is nesesary because charger is gfci protected but if it's a recepticle for ev charger located wherever it needs protection I also heard the gfci breakers may experience nuisance trips on ev chargers. If anyone has current code to not use gfci breaker on ev charger recepticle let me know thanks
@@chrisf9607 yea because the two different gfcis stacked on the same circuit don’t play nice together. I will look for code reference. From a practical perspective having two gfcis in series is asking for trouble.
You do if it's an outlet....
Hard wired no....
GFCI built into Tesla mobile & hard wired chargers.
I used (240v) GFCI breakers anyways for both and haven't had any issues in 2 years.
Also rewired the existing outside 15A GFCI to a dedicated 20A GFCI and had used that outlet for the mobile charger also with no issues.
@@robertgalle4331 I’ve had stacked gfcis work and I’ve had them not work. It’s hit and miss.
In Canada "square drive" screw drivers are known by DIYers and professionals alike. We call them Robertson, most screws in Canada are Robertson. I swear everytime I come across a terrible Phillips screw.
displaced canadian living in the states. I miss them so badly...
A 60A breaker on a 50A outlet? Could you tell us what code allows that?
@billy.80
I believe this would fall under continuous load. Which you should operate at 80% of the ocpd so a 2p60 would be at 48A continuous load.
Same as putting a 15a receptacle on a 20a breaker. Happens thousands of times on a daily basis and is perfectly permissible. The receptacle clamp configuration sets the max amps for the receptacle but the wire is a different story.
@@donavynadair9093 not what I asked. He's running a 50A outlet protected by a 60A breaker. Should be a 50A breaker. What he has is a NEC violation, NEC 210.21 (3) states "where rated higher than 50 amperes, the receptacle rating shall not be less than the branch-circuit rating" his ciruit rating is 60A therefore the receptacle needs to be a 14-60 not a 14-50 or the breaker replaced with a 50A.
@@R900DZ you can not put a single 15A outlet on a 20A breaker. It must be a duplex outlet or more.
I agree that it should be a 50A breaker protecting a 14-50 receptacle. Code reference: 210.20 (1) Single Receptacle on an Individual Branch Circuit. “A single receptacle installed on an individual branch circuit shall have an ampere rating not less than that of the branch circuit.”
Does anyone have any experience with the PowerCharge E80 series of chargers, which supposedly supports 80A level 2 charging from 240 volt single phase AC?
From the best I've checked they do not have an Amazon store. And the CZcams store nor their website have this so-called free code book anywhere to be found. Looks like your credibility is in question here Joel
In England its Zappi for me. Tesla chargers here are not very good
32A x 230v = 6000 watts?
25amp x 240v actually
Ngl, klein tools seem to be getting worst and worst. Bought a nice pair of their strippers that the handle plastic kept coming off. Their old insulated linemans are great tho.
lineman pliers are the only klein product I'll buy. I've been in the trade since they were good, and I've both seen and experienced the decline in quality of most all their hand tools. it's a sad trend to see honestly but there are still plenty of good alternatives to suit our needs so, as the kids say, whatevs
Like other people mentioned should show final tightening of all electrical connectors with a torque driver set to the proper value. You misspoke when you said that you need a heavy duty receptacle because of frequent plugging & unplugging of male charger 4 wire plug. Doubt if the average homeowner will ever unplug the EV charger. We were NEVER allowed to play ring around the heavier then #10 guage wire. Had to use a knife and only use the pencil sharpening method. Too often when you run a knife or undersized non approved stripper around wire you place small nicks on the fine copper strands that often lead to a few strands breaking. In my area if you install any receptacle 60 amp & smaller in garages, outdoors , laundry rooms, hell every where you must install GFCI protection. What good will a EV charger with built in GFCI protection when a little kid touches the side of an energized plug. We all have saw plugs that were not fully engaged into receptacles. NEC should require safer twist lock plugs & receptacles on all EV chargers.
There is no free digital code book
Just buy the right strippers for the wire. I hate when guys use the wrong size strippers hackish
That bonding bushing on the subpanel feeder conduit is so unnecessary, I know is not related to the video but come on
No way I would install that huge outdated CCS plug to charge a Tesla.
It's a J1772, not CCS. Completely different standards. You can get a J1772 to Tesla adapter for cheap. The point of the video is that is Universal, as it says in the title. If Tesla is not going to include the mobile charger with their vehicles anymore, why would you give them more money? Just buy any EVSE and use an adapter.
most EVSEs are half or less the price of teslas anyways and the ones that do cost more have actual features like access control, scheduling and energy data
the only point for the tesla mobile connector is swappable plugs but competition is begining to apear with those features
@@ethernet01
Tesla mobile = $230
Tesla hardwired = $475
The competition is mostly $200+ more each.
Yes....
J1772 is outdated...
Teslas "NACS" or 3400 is the new standard for most, soon to be all.
Why pay more and have to use an adapter?
However, buying a NACS charger and then using an adapter for now works.
I don’t buy Klein Tools anymore since 70% of their products come from China
Must be nice that some people have so much money that they let a billionaire screw them out of a way to charge their car, then, spend even MORE money to get someone to help come up with a solution.
Huh?
@@R900DZ Do you not read English ?