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I remember when 50 dollars used to get you a good computer case...
I got my Deepcool case for like $45
yeah it still can lmao, thermaltake versa h18 and fractal focus 2 are 50 bucks, both of those cases are awesome
found plenty of mesh cases with 3 pre installed rgb fans for about $40..
just install one extra cheap be quiet fan and turn the other fans to a really low speed and youll have decent airflow with almost no sound and some rgb for less than $50
I got my Phanteks P400A Digital for $70. It's now $100...
Hearing from Gamers Nexus, keep an eye on what Montech has in store. They might be the new budget kings soon
The amount of new features and ease of build with cases not much more than $50 is worth it over the junk in early 2010s.
Another update: Been using this build for 6 months now and it's just screamingly good. It handles everything I throw at it from games to spreadsheets without any bottlenecks or slow downs. My games are all played at ULTRA or MAX settings without issues and getting 144 FPS average. The best part is the price I paid. So cheap for the output I get and with options to upgrade later, it's a win win. Well done Jay and Thank You. Can't wait to see your budget 2024 build! Oh and it runs so cool as well. I LOVE IT.
I made(basically) this build (the red variation) over the past 3ish months and was really nervous about the decisions id landed on and seeing you put this together and then put the price up at the emd has been an incredible relief. I got this build but for almost 400 USD shorter. I feel like i can finally breathe. Good content as always, keep it up man!
Same here!
By any chance could you let me know if it plays single player games at high graphics and good performance and if ultra can do even better! Like god of war, rdr2 and new games please and thank you so much!!! This is my first build I’m trying to put together
@@AdrianLopez-gp9yz Yes, it absolutely can. Ive been playing Starfield recently on it, and it runs very smooth on max graphics. Should work absolutely fantastic for anything you give it! Just a quick disclaimer though, since Nvidia is still largely catered toward still (since far more people use Nvidia), having a red build is naturally going to be a less stable on certain smaller games that dont have the budget to cater toward both markets. Aside from that, everything should work flawlessly. Happy gaming!
Duuuude!! This is almost EXACTLY the kind of build I did a month ago!!! I was upgrading from a 4th gen Intel build I did in 2013 and finally able to go into Microcenter during their Black Friday sale last month. I did the 12700K bundled with the exact same motherboard which they threw in for free with their combo deal. I did go with 32 gigs of 3200 CL16, a 1 TB M.2 drive, the BeQuiet! Shadow Rock 3 white cooler, Corsair’s RM750x psu and the Lian Li Lancool II Mesh type C case. Looks almost EXACTLY like yours!! I did have to go with the MSI 3060 Ti though as I hit the same budget as you mentioned of $1500 (including tax and their 2-yr protection plan on 2 of the parts). I wanted this build to do the same thing you said which is have room to upgrade down the road and last me another 9-10 years. I’m sooo happy you did this video vindicating my decision making process!! Thank you Jay!!!
I love the enthusiasm haha, makes me excited to build my own build very closely around the $1500 range too only I would be using the 3070ti, this is all just awesome to see such an enthusiastic community.
**TIMESTAMPS**
0:00 - Intro
2:05 - CPU / Why Intel [i5-12600KF] (i5-12600K shown)
5:40 - RAM / Memory [Corsair Vengenance DDR4-3200 2x8GB]
6:29 - Motherboard / Mainboard [ASUS TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4]
8:01 - SSD / Why PCIe 3.0, Why Crucial [Crucial P3 500GB PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2]
10:11 - Power Supply [NZXT C850 GOLD, fully modular, black cables]
11:17 - GPU / Why NVidia [NVidia RTX 3070 Founders or AiB]
14:31 - CPU cooler [Vetroo V5 Black]
15:42 - Case [LianLi Lancool 216]
17:13 - Build montage
18:22 - Finished build showcase (pretty B-Roll!)
18:52 - Show and tell
'- 18:55 - Case front panel and cooling fans
'- 20:10 - BIOS settings
'- 20:30 - CPU BIOS temps (It's NOT idle! One core is at 100% in BIOS!)
'- 20:55 - Intel turbo limits unleashed
'- 21:17 - Boot
'- 21:56 - Cinebench R23
'- 23:22 - Cinebench R23 score result, peak temperatures, comparison with old CPUs
25:41 - Conclusion with Forza Horizon 1440p gaming and FPS
26:44 - Parts list (also in the video description), further conclusion
28:38 - Subscribe frts [END]
You the real MVP
You obviously get it. Respect
GREAT & THANKS... BUT WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST? lol
So I skimmed quickly through and it looks like about $1,400 before local taxes where you are.
@@WatchingTrainsGoBy-PassingTime Yeah guy said $1500, and mine is like $300 less or something like that due to the 6700xt I'm getting, same cpu lmao
Also my case is the corsair 4000d and I'll be adding in 3 more fans just so there isn't a chance of temps to rise. Still cheaper too.
@@jatinmarcob2128 Prebuilts cheaper now days because GPU prices over MSRP. Cyberpower 13600KF/32GB DDR5 6000/3080 prebuilt is $1599. They even had 13600k with 3070Ti for $1279 last month if google it.
I can't say enough good things about the Lancool 216. Did my first ever PC build in one as a Christmas present for my wife and all the different paths for cable routing make it super clean and organized. I'd also give the Vetroo cooler a 10/10, bought it based on Jay's video and no regrets. Went 3070 as well for GPU, but did 5600x/B550m thanks to a significant cyber Monday mark-down and saved almost $150. Only stock case fans and the stock Vetroo cooler fan and still great thermals, steady 120-140fps in 1440p on the majority of games and happy wife = happy life.
You have my dream job, Jay. There's a certain satisfaction to just building a PC and seeing it all put together.
And then you try and turn it on and something goes wrong lol
@@Fredbear185 then you fix it and the satisfaction comes back 🤣 it’s literally a rollercoaster
honestly I can see how this' would get exhausting after the first week lol
I agree, building rigs and showcasing them, and making a living from that would be an absolute dream for me too.
Got to remember though, that especially when people like Jay and Linus first started, they were spending a fortune to make their content and probably making a huge net loss. Jay has made his dream work through sheer passion, hard work, dedication and being lucky enough to be a charismatic, likeable guy. I am an obtuse knobhead, people wouldn't want to watch me because I am an asshole 🤣
Massively appreciate people like Jay though, and I am glad he is so likeable and charismatic, because I have learned a fucking truck ton of information about my tech hobbies because of people like him.
@@carlfleggdon’t be so down on yourself homie, sometimes people like those who shut up and do their work effectively without comments, so you might be making their shit in a quite shop of yours and they pay you well.
Thank you very much Jay for your knowledge and tips in all your videos! I checked my i5-12600K Cinebench score and compared to your score, thanks to this video. Turned out I was having a lower score and a CPU temperature-throttling, I had, by accident, set my cooler-type in my BIOS to water cooler, when having a tower-cooler. This caused the CPU to get very warm during load. I corrected the setting and everything was fine. In addition I undervolted the CPU slightly with an offset, as you demonstrated in your video "You need to do this with your CPU, now" and I got great temperature and a totally stabel system. Thank you again, I seldom write comments on youtube but I want you to know that I really appreciate your videos and your knowledge, as well as the added humor (for example the shown video bloopers) :) and that the perspective of average gamer/pc-users are considered regarding component prices, how to choose the right components etc. Thank you again and a very happy new year to all of you! With best regards from Sweden
His knowledge isn't that great, he recommended a DRAM-less SSD.
@@roji556 then get the one you want , he didnt say YOU HAVE TO GET THIS ONE, he said this is the one he chose
I noticed this with my new build too, but I never changed that setting so it must have come set to a watercooler in the BIOS from the start. It was idling at about 45-50°C and the CPU fan speed was about a third of what it should have been. Changed the setting to a tower cooler and it came down into the low 30s.
With such a complicated, expensive, important, and quickly changing market, I really appreciate these videos that help compile observations of choices for X customer needs since most customers don't have much time to properly research.
Thanks for this Jay. It's a great starting point for further expansion, but very strong in its own right. FYI, the Lian Li web page for the 216 Lancool says the fans are 160mm front (not 180mm) and 140mm rear. I'm looking forward to to your next video.
Thank you for all the tips and tricks you put on CZcams I actually have finally build my first PC this week. I will be using my PC for gaming and for building 3D models for 3D printing. You and your team make it so easy to understand what I should use and what I need to maximize what I need.
I brought a new system a month ago, and I thought I had the wrong things. But thanks to you and your team, I have pretty much everything you put in. Only differences is it’s a 12700kf, a deep cool castle aio, and a cooler master cmp510 case. No idea if good or bad yet, as no reviews yet.
Unfortunately, as an Aussie, it’s about $2600. But thanks so much for all your content. Much appreciated.
Totally agree on the Lancool 216! I just built a workstation PC for my wife in one and as an O11 Dynamic EVO owner, I was impressed. It can do 360mm, 240mm or 280mm AIOs (I recommend a 280). If you go with 280mm on the top, Lian Li provides a metal plate to cover the remaining gap to avoid turbulence. You can mount the GPU vertically as long as you get a separate PCIe extension cable. If you mount horizontally, you can put 2x 120mm on the bottom. The side panel below the glass is mesh so you will be bringing in fresh air. You should keep the 160mm fans instead of replacing them with fans/AIO as they provide for a better seal. We used Corsair AIO and fans and using ARGB to Corsair adapters, the front fans are controlled in iCUE (you tell iCUE that they are LED strips.) I love that the power/USB panel can be moved to the front left side of the case (no dangling wires, easy USB port access)
I just used the 216 case for a build a build also. I didn't go with an AIO, I used a Noctua NH-D15 chromax Black.
Everything is black, no RGB & I really like it.
Also put in two fans as the bottom as intake & two at the top as exhaust, still testing thermals to see how it's performing vs the original configuration of three fans.
When I bought the case the black pwm wasn't available so I purchased the black case with RGB which has white fans.
I was having an issue moving the front I/O to the bottom left side of the case, & after a few back & forth emails with Lian Li it all worked out.
I did ask if I could purchase two black 160 mm fans to replace the white ones, they sent me two 160 mm black fans no charge!
Can't beat that, I highly recommend Lian Li products, they are helpful & excellent to deal with.
if horizontal can it fit 2x140mm fans on the bottom?
@@brigham1465 No. The bracket mounts on the bottom where the frame would be. The case does support 140mm on the bottom though. The O11 Dynamic EVO vertical mount is suspended above the fans on the bottom but you're looking at $200 for the case, $100 for vertical bracket but I do love it so. At its lowest mount, the bottom PCIe slot is accessible. I have my Soundblaster X AE-5 between the bottom fans and the vertically mounted GPU.
Thanks for the excellent info.
I’m running the Vetroo in my current build and have had zero problems. It’s never went over 75 c and that was running cinebench. I also slapped a higher performance fan o. It because I had it already too.
oh yeah that vetroo v5, esspecially with a push/pull fan set up are awesome. and cant beat the ~$40ish price tag
I got mine a year ago and have zero complaints. It's a solid option, even for my 11700k
I am using Vetro V5 with a push pull configuration on a 12700k having great temps even on Cinebench R23.
I swaped the stock fan with 2x 120 Alpenfoehn RGB High Speed only to fit with the rest case fans.
I did something similar with a hyper 212 black, now has a noctua redux, just because I had it laying around
my 5800x 3d has never gone above 80c running it HARD in tests, its even lower in games 60c range. unbelievably good cooler for the cost
What an amazing build! I really appreciate your discussion of the components you picked and the reasons for them. I have started to watch many of your videos. You make a lot of sense to me.
great video Jay, planning on my first PC build in about 16 years and learnt a lot on how to buy smart.
GPUs baffle me still, the opinions are so varied.
Building a rig to play DCS which only uses single thread so GPU seems to be the key for me.
I'm going to be looking to build a PC in a few months time and something that runs games at full spec at 1440p is exactly what I'm after. This video is a great reference point Jay, thanks for making it.
Same.
Good job. Thanks. Targeting performance levels with an upgrade path is the way to go because prices change all the time, unless your rich that it.
This video is what I was looking for - thank you! I am trying to build a good long-ish term build for my teen sons first PC and this feels like good list that is affordable with some parts coming from eBay. I appreciate your content. I learn a lot. Thanks
Fantastic video Jay, two thumbs way up!
You're like my big brother when it comes to building a computer. You spell it out simply and clearly and have my best interests in mind. A $1,500 computer is exactly what I am looking for right now and this build seems to be perfect to me.
An added bonus was seeing you install the parts. It's a quick guide as to what may be the better way to put what on when. Likewise, the settings portion was cool to hear about as well, as I tend to ignore or fool around in them. Knowing what I am doing (in the settings) is so much better.
Thank you so much!
Have you built this yet? If so what are your thoughts?
@@disonwilliams7090 I have not. I am just getting around to building my PC and updating my component list. I am looking at a i7-13700k CPU and an RTX 3060Ti GPU. But the motherboard and power source will likely be from this video. The case will be the Lian Li Lancool 216 and the motherboard will absolutely not be ASUS.
Nice! :D I built almost the exact same PC a few months ago for a friend who wanted to game in 1440p (same board, same CPU, same GPU (Gigabyte Eagle), faster RAM). Different case (Fractal) and different PSU (BQT). Still satisfied with this choice.
It's tragic that $1500 is now the "inexpensive" tier, when 5 years ago it would have been comfortably "above average" tier.
Thank you Jay for the video. Your video was the baseline for my new computer project. This will replace a 14 year old computer and should be leaps and bounds ahead of the one it replaces. Good quality parts and solid reasoning behind your choices. I often find that people inadvertently bottleneck their new systems and you my friend helped the masses avoid that while future proofing. I hope to see more videos like these in the future. Why not take this to the next level? Maybe you should do a "inexpensive water cooled pc build guide!" where you upgrade this system to a water cooled one. I would consider upgrading my system to the new water cooled one after watching that yet to be created video.
I was looking at an almost identical build to replace my i9 9900k. I decided to wait and save up until spring in the end. Respect goes out to you though Jay for those shrewd decisions regarding later upgrades.
The guitar track during the b-roll was a banger!
Hey Jay, how about segmenting your videos? You're quite the talker, & while you've got a lovely pleasant voice, most of what you're explaining I already fully understand. I've got a couple PCs & one being built currently that are above the specs here, but I'd still like to be able to peck around at this video, but without any segments it's very difficult. I think you'd have better retention if you added that feature. It's really not that much work either, it would take an extra ten minutes for your editor to segment the video.
they're called timestamps...
yes definitely, please do that. If someone is following this guide they will probably want to come back to it a few times and skip around
There’s actually someone always creating these time stamps your after, just a couple comments up from yours was one.
@@Oopsie26 Not a hit against Jeigh, people can complain and tell their opinion of course but... Instead of complaining, I just created them myself.
I hate the chapter feature on CZcams, it’s a pain to skip around on the mobile app because it likes to stick to those section breaks.
E: Also if you double tap to skip 10seconds, it’ll go to the entire next/previous section sometimes which is so frustrating.
Your videos have been really helpful with my second build. Finally, I tallied up this AMD 5800X3D build with a 6700XT, and it was around $1500 also.
Thanks Jay , learned a lot ! Hope to see more of this in the future
Very similar build here that I've been running for a couple of years. I bought my CPU before Intel 12th gen was out. EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra, Ryzen 5 5600x (hoping to upgrade to 5800x3d when pricing drops more), 32gb RAM, gen4 m.2, etx... Plays most 4k titles at high settings. I run 1440p for harder to run titles. great build!
cpu z says keep the 5600x or skip to the 5950. 2 more cores in the 5800X3D 3.4ghz penalty i have (single core loses 5% to the 3600X and you have a 5600X) only gains you 5% vs 15% of the 5950 in multi threaded and i am running 4000mhz ram on the 5800X3D. % gained should equal the dollar value dollar per 1% gained to be worth while. the 5950 won't be as worth while as the new ryzen 4th gen 7000's or the 13900k which is a 200% increase over the 5800X3D due to 5+ghz clock and 24 cores. the 5800x gets you almost 10%.
i will be waiting for the new 7000X3D release to see what performance gains they bring and most likely wait 1-2 years for their prices to fall $200 for both cpu and ddr5. you're in a good place right now. i feel comfortable enough to sit on my current set up for 5 years if i want to.
i was trying to wait out to the 7000X3D release but my 4th gen intel system was going thru BIOS resets enough to be annoying. i lost single thread performance by 15% vs the 4.4ghz stock 4 core 8 threads but i gained 6000% multi threaded performance even with the 3.4ghz penalty.
reviewers must be paid by the manufacturers to use the best performance statistic that lies about "performance gains"
hardware unboxed does the best most honest job at reviewing with out shooting themselves in the foot while still getting some manufacturers endorsements. jay and almost all the others i have watched are schilling hard to get the freebies and endorsements for the most part. "don't bite the hand that feeds you for free" is the tech reviewer motto
My build is very similar. 5800X, 3070 FE, 32GB RAM. Runs BF2042 on Ultra and never dips below 70 FPS on 1440p. Cannot complain about my computer at all. I have two 1TB NVMe SSD's for OS and gaming.
I've got the same build, R5 5600 & RTX 3070. Why did jay use the i5-12600KF for 230$ when the Ryzen 5 5600 is going for $130 for the same performance?
@joeyvigil He explained that. Future proofing if the person building this wanted to upgrade to 13th gen later on.
@@joeyvigil Forealz. 5600 is such good value right now and you could still upgrade to the X3D if you wanted!
I used the Vetroo V5 based on Jay's review, and I was so satisfied that I got another one for my cousin's pc that I'm building
I just recently set out on my first pc build on New Year’s Eve. Had a pre tax budget of $2000 with a primary focus of music production and mastering and gaming as a secondary. One thing I noticed while building, that I dint think I’ve ever heard mentioned before, is how garbage installation instructions are with a lot of components. This was easily the most frustrating post of the build.
Simply made me appreciate channels like yours that provide more detail and description than most manufacturers instructions.
i bought this cooler last week ..i know nothing about building a pc/installing stuff ...but a few youtube videos later i installed it myself ..works great!
Hey Jay love your videos they keep me motivated to build a pc myself keep them coming my friend ❤
This is weirding me out because I built a *very* similar computer to this last summer. Glad to see I was on the right track!
Great video, would love to see another on what the next step up is for each component in a year or two.
Really nice montage and music editing Phil !
,Love the power supply screw part!
I built my PC in February for about 2k with a 3070, more ram and more memory. So I'm happy to see people can build great pc's for cheaper than I had to ❤️
Scored a similar spec rig for less than a grand used.
Great video Jay!
Amazing case to build in. Took no time to build a new machine an the cable management was easy because of the design. Thanks Jay I remember you reviewing this case an have to stop by the say thanks on the review.
Almost the exact build I made recently, 12600kf + EVGA 3070 + 16GB RAM, was the best price/performance specs for my budget and works great for 1440p/4K
Bad choice
AMD 7600x + Asus B650 + 16GB DDR5 (take the cheapest for $65) + 6800XT ($599) = better performance for a lower price
@@LevAizik i would take the 3070 over the 6800xt any day just because AMD drivers especially on launch day for new games have issues unlike Nvidia. I was looking forward to the new 7900xtx but apparently there is major issues with OCing the cards as well as competing with mid range Nvidia GPU's
Lies! These people will always bring up their semi identical builds to make others believe that they think like the content creator and use "EVGA" as the cherry on top for sympathy likes.
I had EVGA 1080 for 6 years (1080) and it recently died. I would not buy EVGA because they are out of GPU business now. After all research where repair guys say that Asus has the best components between all manufactures I believe them. So my dream is Rog Strix but what I can afford is TUF line. I switching to Asus family for motherboard, GPU and laptop...
@@jumper55ful In terms of GPU performance the 6800XT is 40% stronger than Nvidia 3070. I don't know about any driver issues with new games.
I think you nailed a perfectly sensible build for todays budget gamer.... watch all these components become unobtanium is 24 hours LOL!
Budget gamer with 3070 for 650$ xD obviously you have no idea what budget gamer mean....budget gamer build the whole pc for the price of this gpu
@@JURITO1000 Just buy a PS5 then. Budget gaming as you describe it really isn't worth it. Been there and had to re-invest the same amount just about 2 years later. In the long run, investing more will last longer.
@@KkommA88 You can beat the ps5 with $700, and have a pc that can do other things besides game. Pc builder does a real 1440p inexpensive build, this is click bate.
@@JURITO1000 i just bought a 3070 for half that
@@johnzome788 Can you give us a link, or a title to search for, for the PC Builder build, please?
Mans just listed off 90% of the build I spec'ed out over the last month, after watching these reviews and build guides like a hawk. If they weren't the exact parts, they were comparable class-alike replacements. Great vid.
keep doing what you do Jay.. this is very informative. my last build was in 2015 with a i74790k and asus 980 on a z97 asus board. time to build another pc to last another 7 or 8 years , again!!
I just upgraded from a Ryzen 7 1700, 16gB DDR4 @ 2933 MHZ to a 5700x, my first ever aftermarket cooler (Cooler Master ML240 AIO), 32 GB @3600MHZ, B550 MOBO, with my existing RTX 2060. In April I'll upgrade my GPU to probably the RTX 4070 if the price isn't insane or get a 7700xt when it releases. Great Vid Jay.
You probably saw a pretty big minimum and maximum FPS boost with your GPU as well, getting that new CPU, right? I went from just a 3900x to 5950x (much smaller margin of difference), and my 2080ti saw huge gains across the board, especially in my most CPU limited games (saw over 50% gains in the game I cared about most WOOHOO). Yes, I could have gone for a 5800x3D and seen even more gaming boost, but I do other things with my PC besides game, and I wasn't willing to go down in core count for those tasks. 5950x made sense when it was on sale, and I've found a buyer for my old parts to offset the cost, saving me money vs having bought a whole new system. This is the first time I've EVER planned an actual upgrade path for a build ahead of time, rather than just buying a new board and RAM when the time came to upgrade. People in your position did it best though. I could have bought into the platform when you did, but I bought an 8350k instead, and I honestly kind of regret it now. I was hard up for money at the time and had already wasted $135 of my "budget" (all my personal spending money was allocated to funding a small company at the time, the board ended up in a staff PC in the end but it still fucked me over at the time) on a replacement board when it was actually my 4790k that had died. AMD had just been underperforming for so long that my trust wasn't super high in the platform being worth anything long term at the time, even if the CPUs were actually fairly decent according to benchmarks. I didn't make that mistake again when I got my 3800x (which I still have in my home server that I built when I got my 3900x upgrade). But yea, good luck on finding a 4070/7700xt. Assuming they sit on shelves like everything else has so far, you shouldn't have too hard of a time getting one, and they'll no doubt have more supply at launch as well. That 5700x should still last you a good few more years of gaming before it's even worth upgrading your whole platform. Wait for DDR5 to hit price floor IMO before you even consider doing that, that's what I'm going to do at this point now.
I'm upgrading from an i7 3770k, 16gb ddr3 and an msi z77 motherboard to a Ryzen 7 5700x, actually downgraded my cooler from a noctua nh-d14 to a hyper 212 LED (had to keep the noctua in the old build), an Asus Strix B550-F motherboard, 32gb ddr4 3200mhz and kept my rtx 2060. I probably made a bad decision only going with a 650w PSU but I'm gonna be fine with my rtx 2060 for a while.
I literally just upgraded from a 9700k to the 12600k. Great cpu and does everything so well. Got rid of my bottleneck I had in battlefield
Been using this build for a month now and it's just simply fantastic. Solid, stable and no bottlenecks. My Cinebench multi core scores around 17500. Up from the first time I ran it at 16700. All it took was a few bios tweaks and no overclocking after flashing firmware on motherboard to latest. Latest bios firmware is so much better so get a 8gb USB stick and get it done. The strange thing on this build is that my cpu temps never go past 65c and my gpu never goes past 60c and this is under both max cpu and gpu loads. The case is perfect and hope Lian Li keep improving it as they have a winner.
Thank you very much. This is the kind of discussion I wanted. I won't be upgrading any time soon, but if I were building today, this is what I would build.
I currently run the Vetroo V5 on my 5600x, and have no issues with it. Great cooler for $35
6:20 - One thing to note, and I did it when I moved from DDR3 to DDR4 years ago now--the price for 64GB RGB compared to non-RGB was insane. You could always buy aftermarket kits further down the road. Kits from EZDIY-FAB have adapters for Gigabyte RGB headers which conveniently are compatible with Corsair's Commander Pro and Core XT. All you need is a heat gun, pry tool, and patience.
Rgb headers are just RGB headers unless its a specific "proprietary" set up like you see with most of corsairs, and Lian Li's stuff. The general RGB header on the motherboard itself is a standard. Its the same as the RGB strips you can buy for $5 in "Walmart" or "Five and Below". As long as its "DRGB" and not the older cheaper non programmable standard, but even then the plug is the same, you just cant control it as much.
I just built my first pc a couple months ago and am happy to find this video because I literally built the same setup. b660m-a msi board, 12600k cpu, 3070 ti, 2 x 16 gb ram sticks, 850w psu, and 240 aio cooler. very similar build. Glad to know I spent my money right w/ a couple slight upgrades
Practical advice and one of the best combos. Wish you would show more SIM titles that racers deal with.
Nice choices - like many I too built on the 12600K with a 3070. This fall I took the plunge and went to water cooling. Reused my 3070 (it does not really need it, but it was my first loop and I went hard tube). Went with the EK MSI Torpedo board so DDR5. With a 13600K it runs full out now 5.6GHz and stable :-)
great video as always, just 1 thing, the fans in the lancool 216 are actually 160mm 😀
I CAN NOT TELL YOU how satisfying it is to see/hear Jay rattle off a parts list that matches my $1,500 budget part picker list, near verbatim.
Great idea making this one. This is where I and many others are right now with our budgets. 🤘
Love this video! A lot of the same thought process that I just used to build an ITX system with a 12400 and that exact 3070 :-) I did decide to go b660, and 32 gigs of DDR5 though. And one terabyte, gen 4 NVME SSD. Total budget was about 1400!
Wow thats a great build and price! And it gives you an upgrade path to 13th gen and either this new gen of gpus or wait until the next gen since 4000 nvidia is overpriced.
Gotta say, for the money this doesn't feel like a budget or entry level system. I'd consider something under $1000 (and closer to $750) to be entry level.
For that you've got a 12400, a B660 board, 16GB of DDR4, a Corsair 850W full modular power supply, a decent BitFenix case with four included fans, a Peerless Assassin 120 (much beefier cooler for $35), and mainly an RX 6600.
That gives you a 1080p beast and room to move up to 1440p and eventually 4K depending on what you put in the machine. I feel like the selected parts are already way out of entry level. An RTX 3070 is still a big bubba video card for most people ...
Tqsm Jay . Your input on motherboard with upgradability and comparison on am5 and intel helped
Thank you so much @JayzTwoCents, I'm really not a Intel fan but you convinced me to buy everything on this list, except I went with a 1000w power supply, 12600k, 4 sticks of ram for 32gigs and a different case. The upgrade path and the performance you got from this SOLD ME on it. I was looking to buy the $1000 all AMD rig you built a few months back but you sold me on this one. THANKS AGAIN for your vast knowledge.
So, Jay, at the end it seems you like the LTT screwdriver!? :) I'm glad you make this video. It is exactly what I voted for on Twitter - mid-range build, not to expensive, but reasonable priced.
Although I would like to see more of the actual build, and not just a time-lapse off it , and eventually learn something on the way. There's no need to be a full step by step build guide with tons of tips and tricks, but at least show us some key steps :) New and new staff comes every day and I personally like to learn something new everyday. Otherwise its jus like a reality show: "JayzNewBuilds" - "I choose this component; bam bam, here is how it works; cya in the next episode!" Bye!
P.S. Can you show us some RGB free builds in some of the next episodes? :)
I’m happy you included WiFi on the motherboard for this build other channels tend to bash WiFi for gaming even though it is some people’s only choice.
Thanks Jay, this is the boat I'm in. Haven't built in many years. I'd like to make it last a long time again. My strategy for next level GPU/CPU is to live with CPU graphics for a few months and then get a nice GPU. That way I can build and make sure all's good and then complete the build later. A few months patience gets me lots more years service.
My last build was in 2011. I bought as much gear with next gen capabilities as possible and it paid off. My case was custom made all aluminum in 2001 and still in da house! Time for new everything. Only thing new to me is the RGB wiring. Thanks to you and I couple other guys, I'm managing. I don't do as much gaming as I used to so I'm still looking for a new graphics card. Until than, I'll stick my old GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1050 Ti in there. Here is what I've put together so far.
X570S Aorus Master mobo w/AMD Ryzen 9 5900X processor, Lian LI Galahad A10 360 CPU cooler white, G.Skill Trident Z RBG DDR4-3600 32GBx2 memory, Corsair RM1000X 1000w modular power supply, Fractal Meshify 2 RBG ATX white case.
I do a lot of 2D-3D CAD design, graphics rendering and I run my recording studio off the same computer. It's hard to decide on a graphics card that can handle all of that. I refuse to spend much over $1000 on a card when the rest of my parts were under $2000. Any suggestions on a happy compromise?
Jay, I'm only 3 minutes into this video, but so far, I am LOVING it. This is exactly the situation I find myself in, wanting to build / buy a computer with some high end parts, but saving money now so I can upgrade in the future. I am thoroughly befuddled by the options available on motherboard today, and have a small thought of just buying the newest, most expensive Z790 out there. I will resume my watching now, and hope you don't dissapoint. (I'm sure you won't)
i just picked up the same board he shows here and its been great. i honestly dont see a need for a z790 board as long as you can update the bios if going 13th gen
Not knocking this Z690 it's very nice, but overkill for a "inexpensive" build.
Even if you're worried about CPU performance and upgradability.
The performance difference between Z690&B660(with good VRMs) @stock turbo boost will be negligible with anything ≤12700K
So you can save at least 20% with a cheaper Z690, even further 33% on a good B660, all while getting the same performance @stock boosts.
If you're just concerned about not choking your future cpu, this board is well beyond that.
I'd personally get something cheaper that still provides solid VRMS, and spend the money saved on RAM or storage instead.
If you're set on this board in particular there's nothing wrong with it.
4 m.2 slots, and 4 Gen2 USB headers (most cases use 1-2), and more features.
Better then cheap Z790s that are a little more expansive then this, and offer less with no extra performance.
(States pricing, your country may vary)
TLDR:
This>Z790
This is more MOBO then most will need, could spend more on other components.
I built almost exactly this with a bunch of Black Friday week sales, and a 3060Ti I picked up late summer for $399. Love it! I did spend a little more to get more life out of the processor, but was perfect for my particular budget. i5-13600k, MSI Pro Z690 DDR4, 32GB DDR4 ram, ROG Strix 850w PSU (for future-proofing GPU upgrade), and a 1tb 970 EVO M.2 boot drive, to go with the carryover SATA SSDs and 3060Ti already had. These are the PERFECT kinds of builds for a PC capable of excellent 1080p and still pretty dang good 1440p. Love it!
Yea if you were watching there was better late summer deals than Black Friday deals.
how much for the z690?
@@bruhh489 MSI had a Black Friday deal for $159!
@@SnapquesterMage man fr?? i cant believe i missed that
@@bruhh489 If its the MSI PRO Z690-P DDR4 you can still pick them up for that price sold&shipped by amazon.
This is the video ive been waiting for Thank you. middle of the road build. great price to performance. great 1440p rig.
Great info!
I always find stuff that's been dumped on the street and 9 times out of 10, I can get them up and running with a minimum spend.
PCs have always been a passion for me, it can be frustrating at times, but there is always a learning curve and a challenge of some sorts. Fantastic videos pal!
Oh and by the way, where you get the desk mat from? Looks cool man.
Happy new year! 😀
So far this video has been very validating for me. I put together a PC in late July and I used a lot of similar logic to spec it. Including using DDR4 12th gen Intel platform because I knew that left me an upgrade path in the future. I also used a 3070 as a good compromise between cost and performance. I really really wish I could have gotten a 3070fe though, it would have suited the aesthetic of build so much better but like you mentioned they are just unobtainium.
they are not sold in europe...
@@robertdelange2071 3070fe's or??
@LokiParts I take it you didnt happen to go with the ASUS 3070 Strix OC card then? As it has RGB that will help any build aesthetically and it beats the FE, albeit not by much maybe 5ish percent. I love ASUS, top of the line for GPUs, motherboards, and monitors imo. Now, ASUS typically does cost more, but I truly feel they are worth it especially if we are talking about GPUs here, and it would have/should have, gotten u in the clear as far as looks. Ive gotten to where if I need a GPU or board I almost always opt for ASUS right off the bat.
@@unleasheth I would have loved to get the Asus card, I am a bit of an Asus fan as well, but price was the other major consideration. I ended up going with a Gigabyte Vision OC. It also is also has a little bit more horsepower than the Founders Edition and its design is fairly inoffensive.
@@robertdelange2071 They were sold in Europe. I got one on launch day. However I don't believe they're in production any more with most of the last shipments in major EU stores drying up a few months back.
This build is amazing! What adjustments would you make if you wanted to modify it to handle streaming as well?
evga streamer pci e streamer capture card
Unless you give a specific case, this can handle streaming already
@@RadeonVector what would change if I had a y60 case?
@@SecretShotgun The case.
@@RadeonVector cool. Just wasn't sure if anything would have to change based on clearance issues or anything.
Great video Jay, thank you for educating us once again.
Man, you’re a savior. I’m so glad I found this video honestly 😂. Great stuff 👍
6800 outperforms the 3070 in the majority of benchmarks and is generally cheaper.
You know he loves his Nvidia cards. Lol.
This here. Even the 6750xt outperforms it, and the regular 67 is basically on par with it depending on the game
He loves NV but he also explained in the video that he chose team green because of the RT performance.
@@blockbertus still probably better off getting a used 3080 because of the better performance and extra VRAM.
@@craig71686 that’s what i’ve been thinking, but i dont play demanding enough games to excuse me spending 600$ on a gpu lol
After months of planning and hemming and hawing, this list is almost exactly what I also put together. I went with the slightly priceyer, but more forward looking, ddr5 version of the board+ram , because I was re-using an existing 2070 (for now), and didnt need a new case either, though now I need to re-look at those LianLi cases now that I know that side module exists.
Great video. This is something I’m look for going into this year, thank you so much for this.
This is maybe one of the best 1500 bucks build I have ever seen or will ever see! Great job! 👍
I threw together an extremely power efficient build just to see if I could using a Ryzen 3 4100 (same power usage as 12th gen Pentium, around 24 watts) and RX 6400. Total build with a B550 motherboard, 16GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD was only $398 and only pulls around 89W avg. with gaming. (The SSD I bought from the Amazon Warehouse for $27 for a 512GB model but they sent me the wrong drive).
Great build for 1440, Jay. Similar to mine. 12700 + 3070. With Meteor Lake rumour of cancellation, we have a high chance of LGA 1700 supporting 14th gen Intel too. If so, I would upgrade to 14700/14900 + 50 series GPU in future. This is a great build with a path for at least the next 5-6 years. 👍🏼
Except with that in mind, it would now be more prudent to go with ddr5. Mid range ddr4 is going to hold you back notably with 13700, not to mention potential 14700.
@@Tc4ify agreed DDR4 will become bottleneck sooner rather than later. Interestingly Intel is still supporting DDR 4 @3200 max even with 13900 KS
@@Abra_Ka_Dabra_008 Officially yes, but you can go well above that. However these days decent ddr5 is starting to make more sense than top of the line ddr4 (sometimes already cheaper too) and you'll be able to upgrade it to an even better kit in a couple years, while ddr4 development is over.
Just got as close to this build as I could get in my part of the world. Is running quite well so thanks for the guide. Had to get another CPU-fan because I couldn't find the one you had and same with the PSU. Got another casing too since I don't want to see the inside of my computer.
Love building pcs, good video J, back in your element
Thanks for the mid-range build video! I've been an IT pro (IT Manager/Systems Admin) for over 20 years, but I rarely get to build from scratch, so videos like this are really helpful - my last full new build in 2011 was a low budget Phenom II x6 / 8Gb / GTX 660 that came out to around $600 (and I'm still using it - or rather my 11yo son is). I just started receiving the parts for my newest build and went through the same price/performance review that you went over - I also started with the 12600kf/Z690/16Gb with a RTX 3060ti, but after about 20 mock-builds on pcpartpicker, I ended up buying the 13600k (@~$315 - worth it for ~$15 more than the KF) and a Gigabyte z790 (~$200 vs. slightly less for the z690, or $100 more for a comparable Asus mobo). Yes, DDR5 is more expensive, but not by that much, and I felt it was worth it to be more forward-facing and be able to upgrade to more/faster RAM if needed, rather than trying to source older DDR4 five years down the road. I splurged on a RTX 3080 for ~$900 brand new. This should be a massive upgrade from my old cobbled-together i7-3770k / 16Gb / GTX 970. Can't wait to start assembly!
I want to get into IT. From healthcare field.
I would really like to see you doing an affordable Workstation build that can do both really good in blender (Viewport) substance painter, etc
Yet also really good at games at 4K.
Really good at 4k gaming - affordable
Choose one
Affordable but really good at games at 4K is an incompatible featureset, drop one please. If you drop the 4K, this build is more than capable of being an affordable workstation that's also great at gaming.
Recent build
Msi B660 mortar ddr4
i5 12400F + stock cooler
16 GB ram
PSU 1000w Crosair
GPU AMD 7900XT
Old case and drives
I got a similar build.
MSI b660m mortar DDR4
i5 12400F - cooler master 212 hyper black edition
32 GB Vengeance RGB pro
MSI RTX 3050 VENTUS X2 8GB
Samsung 980 pro 1TB
Seagate FireCuda 530 1TB
Case is MSI mag forge 110R I think
EVGA 600w PSU
This gave me a few but very needed answers to questions I've been thinking about for a while.
Gonna save some money for my new office system with focus on noise levels, thank you very much.
Lancool 216 not available here, so I'll get the be quiet! 500DX which seems to be great noise- and cooling-wise.
Vetroo V5 not available here, so it's gonna be an Alpenföhn Brocken 3 or Thermaltake PA120.
Got quite fixated with the high numbers of the SSDs, gonna be a Crucial P3 or WD Blue SN570.
Finally an answer for my RAM, which will be a 16GB kit rather than a 32GB kit due to mostly just office work, notion and few graphics designing.
All the best,
Thomas
Loved the 216! it was going to be my case as 99 is pretty good value, then I saw the Fractal North. Little more expensive at 130 but the wood metal combo looks great
It’d be cool to see you go over how to setup Twitch/CZcams streaming settings for the best performance all around while showcasing settings to avoid and why. I never really know if I’m harming things somehow, and using the integrated GPU is something I never really thought of.
This is great. The kind of build I have always thrived on as a PC gamer and part time streamer. I always look for something decent that I can afford that is capable. I often end up going with something middle of the road as it generally is more affordable but also more than capable and decent quality. RT performance and stream performance are important so the green monster it is sadly.
That and VR. Amd and Intel don't do vr
Great reasonable build Jay! Performs great!!!
I really enjoyed watching this video! It reminded of the old days when I started watching your channel.
the stock cooler depends on the intel chip you buy. I5 and i3 chips still come with stock coolers, but the i7 and i9s dont. the newer stock coolers actually looks MUCH better than they used to with intel
This is not correct. All locked chips (non-k, including locked i9s) come with coolers, but all unlocked chips do not come with coolers (with k, including 12600k).
Currently working on building my first PC. I have an existing GPU from an old prebuilt (960) and am looking at 5900X, 64 gig ram at 3600 and hoping I can hold out for a 7900XTX so when I want to upgrade I do full motherboard change with CPU and can keep everything else
Except RAM.
DDR4 doesn't work with AM5 motherboards.
Look at the 7600x (or higher) - platform prices continue to go down and 3 years of platform upgrades ahead. With faster ram you may not need as much - depending on what you're doing.
Love how neat this build is. Built a 12700KF and 12900KF 7900XTX recently, could see using a case like this. I recycled my old case but the EATX power supply is on my desk, derp. Live and learn.
On a secondary note: I'd love it, if you could go back to this system at some point in the future - actually making use of the upgrade path.
Really nice review! I hope to build a similar pc very soon.
I find your take on 'upgrade path' a bit strange though. For someone who buys a midrange pc, you probably wouldn't want to upgrade the cpu within the next 6 months with 1 generation newer, but rather in 5 years when your pc starts running slow.
Yeah definitely. But i think we are in a weird time because each gen of cpus recently have been getting better and more performance. But overal its not worth upgrading your cpu every gen. Only when your gaming needs arent being met. I was on a 3600x and while its a great cpu, the 5000 series cpus were a solid jump in performance and can handle better cards. I ended up going with the 5700x because the 3600x was bottlenecking my 3080 even at 1440p. But i originally had the 3600x paired with a 2060 so it ran everything i needed perfectly fine at 1080p.
I was kinda sad when I compared my score to yours because I was way behind, but I am running a 5600x and I also got 1200 points over the last score when the system was pretty much brand new and I stress tested it, so apparently the little tweaks and optimization help a lot :D Also, I did not exceed 71°C and when I ramped up the fans got it down to 67/68°C, which isn't brilliant but is fine for propably not the best thermal paste job I could've done.
I am running a very different setup though - not because I'm not also in the higher mid-end/lower high-end range, but rather because I went the opposite way with all components. I have a Strix DarkHero AM4 MB (got angry at the b550 for having a wonky intel LAN chip and rage-bought the Darkhero), 5600x as mentioned (I know, only AM4 available, but I do have some headroom for improvement) with a bequiet Pure Rock 2 FX cooler and Asus Dual 6750xt. Oh and 32GB 3200 corsair vengeance RAM because it was available and affordable at the time.
I can match your max/ultra settings in 1440p in many games, except some older stuff weirdly (20 year old games are NOT very good at handling lots of GPU power! They just take all they can get and it's running at 98/99% no matter the settings :D)
On another note, thanks for all the information and inspiration. Sadly, I found your channel only after I started building the new system, so a lot of stuff was already decided. But I have started cablemanaging for the first time after seeing your tidy af builds. It is a WIP because I am going to upgrade the fans, and I am also moving next week at which point I'll have much more room and less dust.
Yeah having an fps limiter via either drivers making a game profile, or via rivatuner server statistics (comes with msi afterburner) adding the game & setting a fps limit that exe in particular uses.
Or via config files if the game has commands for it helps quite a bit with both thermals & reducing noise.
Specially for a game like f.e.a.r from 2005 for example the main menu has an uncapped fps limit & goes too like 3000+ fps rendering a 2d menu & ramps up gpu load too 100% for just showing the main menu.
Fps cap set too 101 in rivatuner ? whisper quiet even ingame on my 1660 super.
Recently moved up too a ryzen 5600 non x from an I5 2500k at 4.5 ghz, so many games are smoothly running now without stutters from like getting a random message on steam or similar.
Bro.. these videos arent for you... ok.. lol ..
You win.. you already got this game beat.. Lol.
This is for wayyyy way different ppl.. way down the tier list.
@@Mini-z1994 Yeah the build is quite new so I'm still very much trying out what works how well and which workarounds make stuff work that doesn't play along as of yet. :D Thanks for the hints, I'll see if they help in this case. :)
@@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 Thanks for the compliment :D
but I think performance-wise (apart from the cinebench score, though he has more cores on his CPU and way, way better OC skills than me) and also price-wise it's quite comparable to this build, mid-to-high end with some headroom for later upgrades. :)
Besides, I love Jay's videos regardless of whether he builds a ultra gaming monster with custom LC or a budget thing with air coolers, it's fun to watch and gives me inspiration for things I might upgrade or optimize later, like now with the cable management :)
what was your score in Cinebech r23 with 5600x?
Those specs are close to two of the systems I built for my son & myself last year Christmas except I went with the i7 10700K processors & Corsair 32GB Ram kits after finding great deals on them. The GPU I went with for the builds was the Zotac RTX 3070 Twin Edge OC cards which perform great at 1440P & 1080P. I went with the Vetroo M01 mini tower cases (great airflow with great options for such a small case) as they were just $59 - $69 at the time & turned out to be great little cases. The Vetroo V5 CPU coolers perform really well & at the time they were around $25 (I used this cooler in all of my budget builds this year as I had bought a bulk of them at the time), I installed them in a push/pull fan config but I have since upgraded to Asus RYUJIN II 240 AIO when my budget allowed. Started off with the Vetroo ARGB 120mm fans but eventually upgraded to Coolermaster ARGB fans. All upgrades, in the end, didn't do anything to improve performance & the aesthetics were already pretty good so I say if you research the product & as long as they don't increase pricing, Vetroo is a great budget brand to go with.
Thank you for this video. I'm looking into building a gaming computer as I have outgrown the cheap pre-built I bought 5 years ago.
I spent somewhere around the $500 range and it served me well for my super basic gaming and I've even used it to stream with few hiccups.
System specs for ny old pc:
Two 500gb HDD
intel i5 2500
12 gb ddr3 ram
Nvidia geforce gtx 1050
500watt psu
I upgraded it recently with more ram and a better processor (32gb ddr3 and i7 2600) but the upgrade was not enough and now I am forced to look into either a brand new pc or completely gutting this one for all new parts. Seeing as it was a cheap pre-built I don't think replacing every part is worth it for me and I should look into building a fresh one.
This video helped me identify what I'm looking for when building this new pc and hopefully avoid pitfalls like cheaping out so much that I can't upgrade the system and it's outdated in 5 years and I'm forced to begin the process over again.
I'll likely keep the old system as a backup/office computer as I did spend about $100 on the upgrades for it and it's a fine computer, it just doesn't run new games
I don't believe in "upgrade paths". Technology moves so fast that you'll be ready for a new build by the time you think to upgrade your system. Build the pc you need with the money you have, at the time you need it... I think thats the best strategy.
My first build was around 2600 pretty expensive but still holds now 2yrs later still can play 4k@60, my advice buy new mid tier then you won't have to upgrade so soon
yeah for $2,600, you would probably be able to keep that system for like 8-10 years without many problems.
@@PotatoMC1 yeah since I mainly use it for gaming I just plan on upgrading my 3080 in a year or 2 for 4k@120
WOW I'm a older guy and build pc from the garbage I pic up, but seeing this build I'm impressed at this build Jay ,very sleek and smooth looks awesome.
First off Jay I wanna say a HUGE thank you. I've been sitting on a on an outdated system from 2017. Fast forward now to 2023 the market isn't what is used to be, and the cost of general living leaves less than desired disposable income for jumping back into PC building. I was fortunate enough to have been gifted an RTX 2070 from a viewer on Twitch recently, and using this video I was able to fill out the rest of the components easily while not going over 1k ($952.15 USD). I honestly cannot wait until everything arrives so I can assemble it all together. The only notable changes I made to the build were using the RTX 2070, an AIO from deepcool (LT520) and going with the i7-12700k because the i5-12600k was not available and I really wanted the IGPU for streaming. Thank you for giving hope to future and veteran PC enthusiast in these trying times.