Discovering The Rare & Ancient Triangle System (Ft. Nordine Taleb)
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- We had the opportunity to learn a very interesting fighting style from the former UFC Fighter Nordine Taleb. This ancient fighting system could be older than Muay Boran! More info in this blog post ➞ vahvafitness.com/ancient-tria...
0:00 Ancient Triangle System demonstrations & applications
15:45 There is no superior martial art, only a superior individual
17:30 The origins of this style
21:48 Nordine Taleb's post-UFC career
28:45 People see only the arsenal I brought to the war
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I had breakfast with Mr Nordine when I was at Montreal.
What is the name of this fighting system?
Most of the Muay Boran styles teach this. In Thailand it stems from the Thai greeting (wai). People also wai when apologizing or or not wanting trouble. So it is a non agressive guard. It is likely part of many SE Asian styles. I've seen some Silat styles using it too.
bullshido technique
Very common in kung-fu too tho the application seems to have been Lost
Yes, that's something you'll find in Silat too. In Silat it's called _hormat_ which simply means 'salutations'.
In Silat, it's the _gelek_, i.e., the torsion of the hip, that generates power While the hands mostly just orbit around the elbows for blocks, parries and strikes. Both shoulders and elbows are kept low, the latter protecting the lower ribs and the liver and spleen.
Fedor used this type of guard against Cro Cop to protect and parry the high kicks. I think that some of this is actually too 'fancy', but as the legend said, "take what's useful and discard the rest."
What flexibility in applying the movements! Nordine is a martial arts master, a real one! his origins are Algerian, born in France in St Tropez, a nice man, a brave
yeah! this technik is huge once you mastered it ⚔Muay Boran being very close to Indonesian Silat but still simplified ⚔ it not only the art of using triangle patterns with arms to defend or attack the opponent but more the art of using triangle motions for stepping away or getting into opponent moves like in Wing-Chun (as stated here!) n mostly in Penchak Silat (n then Krav Maga being an 🇮🇱 clone of Silat) where these ancient techniques are the core approach of the fighting system 💣it is IMO (n my experience of 2 decades of MA all over the world) the most deadly n powerful techniques ever created for Kombat (especially when used with some secret small weapons 🧙♀) 🔥
Great teacher & student with questions while both are very inspiring may God Bless those who are diligent thanks for VAHVA Fitness
Interesting technique...❤ These are the kind of videos worth watching form your channel. Thank you for sharing... Respect honour. 🙏🏼
All of their videos are worth watching. But especially this.
Amazing! Reminds me of Keysi method but this looks more defensive and counter striking. Its interesting because in Mision Impossible 3 when Tom Cruise has this bomb inside his head he has to use his elbows in a triangle shape to fight off the bad guy.
Keysi and DL, for sure!
Sembah 🙏 Basic princile from pencak silat and muy chaiya
Excellent video.this man is an excellent professsor ,in shape and with good skills.congratulations.
This move is for me very impressive keep posting more videos like this many thanks
I remember accidentally discovering this method against my older brothers as a child when they were tag teaming me. They weren't happy.
This is very interesting! Thanks for sharing 🙏
Yes, fighting with a single siytem with multiple applications, Great asset, even "healing" the opponent with elbow strikes into most sensitive parts, a laMuay Thay, as you put it. Many thanks and good health.Paul,68
This is great! Reminds me of how the concept of a triangle is also used in Filipino Martial Arts. I've observed that concept is shared by many South East Asian martial arts. Thank you for sharing!
Youre joking riggt ?
Love Nordine! We trained together for years at Tristar. This is an extremely interesting style he’s showing here. I’d love to understand the source.
Everyone is amazing in the video. Much respect to both of you my friends.
Interesting techniques, we have loads of use for triangles and i train silat in Holland.
I think the style that you’re describing is part of the Kalaripayattu system
James Masayoshi Mitose taught this method in Ko Old Sho Pine Tree School descendency of Vajra of the Bisho Daruma method.
Now you know why Buddhist and Hindu Monks hold this pose and why Muay Boran came out of Buddhist tradition. This is the most common pose for Buddhist monks everyday
The triangle is also the basics and everything of Kali or Arnis. The triangle is the biggest mystery on earth. The base of many cultures by the past.
The triangle is a weapon of peace. Very old symbol.
Not true at all. warriors who are either in the hindu or buddhist faith they belong into Varna system. In the past, there were religious clashing. The word Muay Boran didn't start appearing around the 1900s. Anything before that the Thai call it "Muay" but before there was ever a Thai kingdom. The Kingdoms from Cambodia and Burma were dominating mainland Southeast Asia. The Malay peninsula had various kingdom until the Malay finally dominated that area. The Tai were in China and migrated to Yunan from Guang Xi. The Hmong did take a similar route but ended up in Laos. These two groups didn't recieve any indian influences until they seek asylum and refuge. The reason behind it, it is because they were intruded by Han chinese rulers. Some of their villages were under chinese hegemony and later the Mongols.
The namaste hand prayer posture is one of submission and surrender, there is no doubt about this. It is descended from the way victors once tied up the losers. The losers were now slaves. Their hands and fingers were tied with jute so they appeared to be in perpetual supplication.
That's a fact. Thanks for sharing with us. All the best.
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Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
I used to be a warrior like you, than i took an triangle in the knee…
Yeah, this resembled a lot to Muay Chaiya to me. The "Durian Style" . Kru Pedro Solana has a training camp close to Chiang Mai, north thailand and he knows a great deal about this style.
Very interesting. What a good guy.
Amazing! Can you consider this technique as the ancestor of the High Guard? (in Boxing, kickboxing, MMA)
It looks very similar to muaya chaiya, their principles were based on breaking the body down into a triangle.
Master Pedro Solana, i think is what his name is and that might be someone to interview if you are ever in thailand again .
The triangle looks similar to the guard in Krav Maga. It protects the face, throat and ribs. Very informative! Thank you
Krav Maga folks always say everything is just like Krav Maga. No, it’s not.
Krav Maga ? it’s not. it’s not. it’s not. it’s not.
@@ahmedpsnb I never said it was, the guard is similar.
When I saw the intro, I thought it was another bullshido master. But now I have to apologize for my haste. Thanks for the post, and good luck to Nordine. Oss
So interesting
Triangle,square and circle... That are ways of movement/thinking/attack or defense. From easier to harder. Triangle is more aggressive,it intercepts and penetrates. Square is much more stable and defensive and the circle relates more to grappling and or evading and counter atacking. And ofc they are not just "one style" you use the three of them combined. You can think of that as bs and you would still be doing it without knowing. Its not as obvious as in the video but if you think about it we all move in only 10 directions like a cross and and X and up and down.
Like the buttons on a Playstation controller
I’ve noticed Justin Gaethje has used a similar guard in recent fights. Most recently against Fiziev. His rematch against Poirier saw him using a more fluid guard
What a gem looking into an old style that most people forgot about - maybe make a whole series about it. You did great work putting Kung Fu on a high level out the same for MMA and some old styles most people don't know about like me. Thanks keep going!
This system was part of an early 1990s tv series. Someone that came to the past from the future.
TMA's have always had this stuff..
I agree with you looking for the evolution
What is being described here I’ve seen from a Lao monk he said he learned it in a temple outside of Vientiane. He said it was a old style of muay Lao boran
What about coming around the guard with hooks and overhands
Mastery
Interesting. Seems I've seen this movement in a movie where the character is fighting while in handcuffs, I just forgot the title.
Im going to start drilling these blocks and strikes
Link's unarmed CQC style of choice. Triangle. See the wisdom in learning it. Find the courage to trust in it. Feel the power of mastering it.
Now I know EXACTLY what to do when crooks break-in while I’m midway fixing my son’s toy and palms superglued.
Great idea 💡
Be a good add on to normal fighting. The entry is a little lacking, However if you use the straight kicks to enter, that's pretty good.
"I told you never to interupt my prayers!" 🙏
Yeah they better watch out 😂
Nice
just a thought...dont do shaolin monks and other people from india an thailand do the greeting with the closed palms together?
Praying Buddha style!
You mean Buddhist martial arts, but yes, that's how they do it.
Hinduist and buddhist do the greeting. Any Southeast Asian countries expect for the Philippines. In the past, indianization did spread but the ones that were doing the spreading were merchants
🙏Secret of Namaste 🙏
We use to call this the Spear system, a guy named Tony Blauer made it known back in the mid 2000's
Tai Chi is crane and snake. The bill of the crane is represented by the first posture, praying. You can poke with it on the inside, and with a slight adjustment, the fingertips at right angles instead of touching, is the push to the body and a great two handed block for kicks or heavy hitters, it will stop anything. The pokes are very strong and give new meaning "to the point".Meditation.
Perfect work perfect Man 💪❤
This is actually part of muay boran and it is quite handy.
Aleeeeeee Nono!!!
Pinchi Nono saludos..
Depending on the opponent's style, this could really mess them up. I would never start a fight like this, but I could see busting it out in round two for a bit.
I saw Tony Jaa doing this techiques.
Is that Muay Boran?
Kun khmer Pradal serey bokator 💯👍
Myself noticed a lot of the body is unprotected in many of these moves if opponent was to counter strike and knows what they are doing, the liver and kidneys looked like open targets many times.
Its a very stupid style.
@@niconicoo5661 I did Lau Gar kung fu and boxing many years ago, but this Triangle system just leaves the body wide open for kidney and liver targets all the time, yes its a very stupid style.
@@darkshaman7087 i can imagine a beatyfull frontkick to the face 😂
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This is just one subgroup of my style. An that’s not what it’ll be named as the hand sign is air sign. The symbol. Love your excitement. There willing to teach.
Student. Teacher …. Master 333.
I’m OBlock You’ll understand, not the block in chicago i’m the person.
Peekaboo, Tyson + Elbows 😜
oh nordine !! en tout cas j'aime bien le principe
yeah this seems to only give more validation to the effectiveness of the pensador from KFM. And to think that they get trash talked a lot
Interesting technique, but my personal opinion is that this has limited application though.
I was taught to throw a _minimum_ of three strikes whether attacking/counter attacking. This triangle isn't going to work against that.
Variable acceleration.
Footwork.
Head, body, head.
Body, head, body.
Etc.
Works good on a static opponent. You get somebody who's trained they will kick your teeth in
Looks not bad. Like spear system
If you are looking for a name for a triangle fighting system: Pitasoreass comes to mind
Its neat to know. You dont have to keep hands in prayer. As long as you can close the gap to protect nose.
Looks good but gotta see in real fight or sparing against muy Thai or Kyokushin.
You're right. The thing about "triangle" is that it feels so ancient and primal. Would love to see it in action against a proven modern art.
Thanks a lot for giving handcuffed suspects ideas.
😂😂😂 good one 👍🏼
0:05 would result in as fatal knockout. Just my 2 cents. 😁
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I expect to see this in the next bullshido episode
Similar system used in Russian System biomechanics by kodagnikov
Very similar to Kali empty hands. Look up "gunting", "panagang", and "defanging the snake". Unsurprising because both arts are Southeast Asian.
Look like Muay boran and keysi fighting method
My friend my name is priest jonathan I know is this style is muyai TAI Boran and old chaolin
Looks a lot like Muay Chaiya technique
Why do you think Phil Jackson taught the triangle system to all his teams - IT WORKS!!
This reminds me of a certain kung fu form for if you are taken prisoner.
One left hook & you will wake up asking your own name
HAN
You fought well yesterday. Your style is unorthodox.
JOHN
But effective.
HAN
It is not the art, but the combat that you enjoy.
JOHN
The winning.
HAN
We are all ready to win, just as we are born knowing only life. It is defeat that you must learn to prepare for.
JOHN
I don't waste my time with it. When it comes, I won't even notice.
HAN
Oh? How so?
JOHN
I'll be too busy looking good.
Perfect system against anyone too dumb to attack by combination.
From what I heard Muay Thai fighters don't use lots of combos. It's mostly 1, 2 attack combos.
wow, you guy's talking like Bruce Lee at the end of the video...No fixed system! fit in with your opponent! Good for you!
I guess it would be cool to see someone climb up on a person and do this but I ain't seen it yet in a true street fight. Mauy thai and some jiu-jitsu training for the smaller person. This stuff misleads people.
Looks a little bit of keysi
Looks a bit like Keysi.
I was looking for this comment
Well looks like bullshito to me if it was so ancient and effective then why is it forgotten
Looks like it's just a Thai high guard with the hands held together for some reason.
How about ancient dodecahedron art of self-geometry? C'mon guys.😟
i know Nordine's legit, but I need to see the style in live practice before I give it any validity.
It looks like muay boran.
It is definitely a MUAY BORAN branch
Wonder why the professional muay thai fighters who have hundreds of years of history and experience behind them dont know these super smart secrets...they so stooopid huh 😮😂
This style of fighting comes from Muay Chaiya.
"Rare", because he made it up himself.
Maybe when u handcuffed🤷🏾♂️
A former UFC fighter should know better than to promote this as an actual effective style. Maybe that's why he is a former UFC fighter.
Muay Thai Chaiya
One good timed uppercut and you're doomed...
Fighting in handcuffs…
why didn't he kick his legs?
😹..Wait! what about? the techniques for scalene! & obtuse!🤣
Looks like a kung fu technique...