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- TSO Products Parallel Guide System Unboxing and walk through. For use with Festool Makita Triton. Dave Stanton explains what you get and the functions of each part.
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In stock as I write this post. Also, to reduce postage to Australia you can go through these guys www.myus.com/welcome/australia/
It actually is in stock, just bought all of it... First time I see stock in almost a year, thanks!
Thanks for the compliment Alex Gorbatchev!
These are the type of products you know just by watching a video are going to be great. Excellent explanation Dave!
Thanks Mark. I take a while to get my head around things enough to explain in a way to make it look logical.
@@DavidStanton yes me too, but you do it well.
Great review Dave. I had the TSO web page open trying to work out what combination to get when this video popped up in my feed. Perfect timing :-)
Glad it was helpful!
They keep on innovating. Nice updates.
Thanks Derek! These guys make things easy.
My set of 30-50 and adapters are to arrive Monday. So looking forward to getting to use them .
They work very well.
Thanks, nice explaination of the product. now I just have to save up. I still need to get the TSO GSR square first.
Good choice!
Such a nice system.
It does the job for me Jerad Miller
Nice. I need something like this. I will check this out.
You should!
Great video. I hope everything is well down under!! You should do a short options video to explain the various ways one can order these kits. I believe that this is going to be my go to kit for parallel guides. Thanks and stay safe.
Thanks GrumpyWiseGuy! I will have to look into that.
Great info.
Glad it was helpful!
I like the collars on the v2 flip stops. I bought a second set of flip stops so I could have one for the short guides and one for the longer narrow stock guides without needing to recalibrate every time I switch between them (which turned out not to be the case anyway but still useful to have 2 sets). Having the collars can achieve the same thing with one set of stops.
Hi apsilonblue! I think their latest set of parallel guides are perfectly matched to set and forget. I might ask Hans if the collars can be purchased independently?
@@DavidStanton Hi Dave, they do have an upgrade kit to update v1 stops to v2. I'll buy them at some point but happy with what I have for now.
@apsilonblue, i upgraded my stops to the V2 and ordered an extra set of V2 stops so I can have multiple cuts set up at once. One significant change is that now you only need a 3mm hex key for every fastener. The spring is a nice touch on the adjustment knob.
@@carlbrothers I noted that in the video. Only having to use one tool is a big plus compared to the v1 stops. Good idea on having an extra set for different cuts, I never considered doing that.
Great gadget, 💯👍👏👏👏👏
I think so too!
Hi Dave, I love your videos. I notice you have a new bench top with holes and a track. Is this something new? I can’t find any videos of it yet? I intend to do a version of your docking station, but I’m interested in this new top with the dog holes. Cheers
Hi Justin Meldrum! It is a rebuild of my old one. Plans and video in 2021.
Thanks Dave. I look forward to it
I just got the my parallel guide system. But was very disappointed when I
discovered that one of the rails had a different color of blue than the
other 5. Has any one experinced the same?? I also got the MTR-18,
GRS-16 PE og GRS-16, they are the same blue color as the one of the
rails.
These parallel guides systems seem to be the new best thing. Noticed other manufactures are sold out. I haven't completely figure it's use or advantages yet. Is this a more economical and portable alternative to a doc station on a multifunction 20mm hole table?
Hi Duff Leaver! It depends on if these are a fit for your particular need. They can definitely do all you say.
David, at the 6:50 mark, I am confused as to the usefulness of the stop in this case... is it just a quick way to use the Track square without worrying about parallel, since the Track Square is perpendicular? If so, is there any real advantage to having parallel guides when using with a GRS-16 / GRS-16 PE? I have both of the track squares and the Parallel guides now, and am wondering if I wasted money getting the whole parallel kit!
Hi Christopher Tearpak! Let's say the project is not all square corners, maybe at 30 degrees? Well the parallel guides will definitely help. Also, if I need to create a heap of parallel cuts for maybe a wardrobe, I am not concerned if I have a square ens until I start docking everything to length and the added advantage is the parallel guide can connect to the side of my GRS-16 to give me repetitive cuts> A great addition to anyone's kit!
@@DavidStanton I think I see what you mean... so, if I just needed x pieces of y width that are even / parallel along two sides, then I could square up on the cross-cut, and if the side that the GRS-16 is on isn't perfectly straight, it wouldn't be indexed on the edge, so it's really just a holder for the parallel guides?
I tend to think I am good at thinking through this stuff, but I guess I am still a bit confused as to what exactly you are demonstrating at the 6:50 mark... The text on the black screen just doesn't seem to be getting through to me. LOL
Thanks for your reply!
I have wanted to get this setup for a while but TSO shipping prices were ridiculous. Noticed you mentioning this myus shipping mob. Might have a look into that
Sounds like a plan Shane Tripley
Im curious why would you need to have the square and the 2 guides at the same time? wouldn't you use 1 or the other?
Interesting point Don. It isn't always a simple case of a 90 degree cut. Let's say you have a new sheet of ply and you want to cut one side straight and then rip the board parellel to a certain width. You can then go on to use the GRS-16 to dock that board to various lengths. The other thing is you can use one parallel guide fixed to the grs-16 as a variable set length stop. Truely a great combo.
If you have either a GRS-16 or the GRS-16 PE, is it really necessary to use Parallel Guide System to get accurate cuts? The GRS-16 and the PE are all that's needed. Is that not correct?
mike crook, The parallel guides do more than just create a parallel cut. they are also able to connect onto a GRS-16 and give repeatable lengths when cutting sheet goods to length.
@@DavidStanton thanks, I've not seen videos go into much detail regarding the guides. Most don't highlight all the features (that or I haven't paid close enough attention).
Interesting point mike crook.
Hi Dave, I guess with Carbatec not being the Aussie stockiest I have to buy direct from TSO from the States?
Tom, you can do that and if you want to and go through these guys www.myus.com/welcome/australia/
Hi David 👍
Hi giovanni petitti!
Ok i hope i can get some replies. Im looking for a track saw. Money is not the deciding factor. Im heavily invested in Makita cordless tools. Ive used the Makita cordless track saw and on the fence about it due to i got to use one for a bit from another sub contractor. Never used the Festool. Things i didnt like about the Makita, maybe changed now. Base was not flat. 55inch track and 118 track were not the same and had to adjust everytime the tension on saw going back and forth sloppy on one to tight on other. I like the price point of the makita. I can just buy more accessories after the purchase. Things i didnt like about Festool if i went cordless the battery's i know nothing about them and no double charger. Does the plug in model have more power then the cordless only basically using it on 3/4 ply. I already have a shop table saw and a dedicated table saw set up for a sled. Just basicly job site use. I just dont want to regret picking one over the other never using the Festool.
Hi ealdydar! I own a few festool battery tools and ended up selling my corded Festool track saw and bought the battery version. I like the added weight as it holds the track to the job better. A few of my batterys are bluetooth and they activate my dust extractor.
They say carbotec are aussie stockist of these thinks and the track square but i cant find then any were on the site
Can you only get them directly from them now ?
Carbatec used to be their Aussie distributor but no longer.
@@DavidStanton they told me festool bought them out and rebranding them
But seems we can only import them directly now ha
Really want the full set up and square as well
@@vandoswoodshop Wow, who told you Festool bought them out? Not true!! Get back in touch with who ever told you that and set them straight. Import directly or have delivered to an address in the States and get it forwarded to you here in Australia. I just sent my old set to Canada, cost me $110 Australian.
@@DavidStanton it was carbatec talked to a guy in the sydney store and thats what he told me ha maybe because he wanted me to buy the festool version. But i have had bit of trouble getting on tso sight to get it sent out here ha not sure why im trying to get the grs16pe not been to easy so far
@@vandoswoodshop go through these guys www.myus.com/welcome/australia/
Hi Dave! Great explanation of the guides. If you were only going to get one length of guide, which would you recommend getting? It seems to me it would be best to start with the 30", but I am curious as to your thoughts. Merry Christmas to you and the entire family!
Hi Russ! It depends on the size of stuff you are making but the 30 inch would be a pretty good fit. The reason I suggested the 50 and 30 set is it is a great price, rather than buying the same gear in bits and pieces.
@@DavidStanton Thanks so much for the reply!
I don't have a Festool anything. With this work on other systems?
Hi Vincent Sanders! Yes. I mentioned in the video that it will work with makita and triton track saws.
Works just fine on my Makita tracks.
@@carlbrothers I will need to buy both. But my setup died. So I need to buy both. Festool is out of my price range for now.
Thanks David. Apparently the 30" version is out of stock at the moment...
Hi 汤达研! Just checked their website, they are in stock now, be quick!
@@DavidStantonAwesome, I will go check it out. Also with the rail adapter, does it come with the knob?
Hi 汤达研! Not sure, check their site.
Unfortunately it doesn't fit my track system
What system do you have?
@@DavidStanton Ozito, was all I could afford at the time, problem is that the outer edge of the rail has a "J-channel" not a "C-channel"
Unfortunately, they run out of stock. Can’t buy as a whole system with both 30/50” rails.
Hi Enkhbilguun Erdenetsogt! They usually restock pretty quickly.
@@DavidStanton Thank you David for sharing your observation.
Wouldn't the two 30's do the most of it?
Interesting point. But if you are doing a narrowish rip then the 30's tend to be cumbersome.
All these accessories, it just never seems to stop ... and they are way to expensive for what they are too.
Hi Johan De Groot! Expense depends on your own particular situation and need. The only products I recommend are quality that will last and be reliable.
I got a better idea for parallel guide. Fix the guide on the table permanently, and slide the stopper back and forth. The stopper, rather than meeting the edge of the stock, it meet the side of the saw track. This way it's not portable anymore, but it wont stick out of the table. And then when you have more money, add milling machine DRO to it. Now you got digital parallel guide, accurate to 0.01mm.
Interesting point Anas Suhaimi. The problem with that is the off cut will tear off under its own weight and also not portable.
@@DavidStanton well, i'm building a 4x8 table, it will be able to support full sheet 4x8 (and 6x8 sheet with extensible support). When cutting full sheet lengthwise (long cut) I will put sacrificial layer of plywood beneath the workpiece. Cutoff is fully supported.