TSO parallel guides, 30 50 set and rail square (can you ditch the MFT?)
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2023
- In todays video we will cover all the details and practical applications go the TSO Products parallel guides and rail square.
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Great video
These are the kind of demonstrations that get me to buy products like these. Glad manufacturers understand this and help us out and the content creators out too
I have the TSO Parallel Guide System. This is one of the best Product demonstration of this system I have seen so far. I learned something new today. Thanks Anthony
Glad to help!
Great tutorial, Congrats on the TSO sponsorship, they made an excellent choice!
Fantastic demo, I just bought the 30” TSO system and was confused about some of the setup. This cleared up everything and then some!
This is my first time commenting on any of your videos, although I have watched a lot of them. You are definitely one of my favourite youtubers in the precision carpentry game, the other three being David, Sedge, and Peter. Thank you so much for the detail, clarity, and energy you bring to the game. With that out of the way, I own both the MFT/3 and the MW 1000 extension, and I still bought the TPG-30 guide rails and MTR-X triangle. Sorry, I didn't see this video before my purchase otherwise I would have used your affiliate link. I find a lot of value in the MFT/3 and MW 1000 despite not really using the Festool guide rail clamps too much. So for me, it's ALL GOOD! Peace, Anthony, and keep up the good work!
I just got the Whole set you just showed off. the excitement i saw from you makes me very happy I purchased this system. I got it calibrated it and man it was bang on the mark I made.
Good timing! I was just going to open my 30” set of parallel guides this morning. Great tutorial!
I also recently purchased the 30" set. I plan to use it soon.
I use this set. They are quick. They are fast. They are relatively easy to set up. I really enjoy these vs the festool version. I really like how the tso sit on your workpiece, and not dangling off the sides stressing me out.
Thank you for the demo, this really helped me figure out how to use the TSO set!
Excellent demonstration of the TSO parallel guides.
Thank you so much for the video. It is very clear now how to use the square stop and parallel guides together for repetitive cross cuts
Wow I'm sold! Usually I break down my sheets with rough cuts and then take it to the table saw for accuracy. This could make my first cut my last cut
Well done. Love TSO and it was great to see these products in action
I have the Kreg tracksaw and was on the fence about getting the ACS or going with this system. After seeing your breakdown I’ll be going with the TSO solution. I will also be able to use the same parallel guides if/when I ever decide to bite the bullet and go with a Festool tracksaw. Great videos!
Great video on TSO's parallel guides setup Anthony. I should mention that the new slide on TPG adapter v2 now works with Milwaukee's new guide rail system, allowing one to use the parallel guides as well. Hooray for that. I am heavily invested in Milwaukee's M18 power tool platform, so it only made sense for me to buy their track saw to take advantage of owning multiple M18 batteries. Always enjoy your very thorough and informational videos.
good timing I just got everything you got for my Makita setup. sure feels nice and well made.
absolutely impeccable timing. i am looking at picking up this set for my festool saw.....but just ordered the GRS-16 PE for now (arrives tomorrow).
Great demonstration!
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"Metric & Standard..."
For us over here, metric IS "standard" !! 😅
Actually as a retired machinist, I had to work in both imperial and metric & converting between them in my head became a normal part of life... 🤪
I know some are gonna say this takes so much longer than a mft or tablesaw... but you are demonstrating it so you are having to take your time... also, for those of us without mft/ts... we can achieve the same accuracy and its THIS accuracy that saves us time... no tweaking cuts or angles to "get it right" (anyone trying to assemble a cabinet with 89° corners and a millimetre short or long will know how soul-destroying it can be, DAMHIKT😖) ...
I like it and imagine with use, it would become second nature... 🤔
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What most of those people don’t realize when they say it takes too much time is that I actually got rid of my sliding tablesaw and my regular cabinet saw and gained a ton of room and I don’t work any slower than I’ve ever done in the past and now I have $10,000 back in my pocket since selling those saws lol. I love using metric as it is very precise for me and obviously easier to do the math lol, but with imperial building here in the US, there are times where it is just easier to go with it. This TSO system offers both on the same guide, so I was super happy about that and you could definitely eliminate the need for an MFT and use your own existing workbench. I will be demonstrating more TSO products in the future that really demonstrate how this can be done by cutting precise angles, squaring up and other tools that fit perfectly into any system. Thanks for being part of my CZcams family!
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... thanks for replying Anthony !
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I just ordered some TSO stuff. Thanks for this video.
Thanks for all the info; great review!
I like the TSO flip stops,very nicely made system,reliable square cuts you can count on.
Excellent video. I used mine yesterday in the shop.
Thanks for the awesome explanation!
I’ve got the 30-50 set and connectors and also purchased an extra set of stop collars for the thin cut rods.
Anthony, excellent video. Now I can correct my 1/16” inch off. I will be watching your videos.
Great tutorial!
Awesome bro! This is my first video of yours that I’m watching but I subscribed and I’ll be checking out some of your other ones. I’m a super experienced furniture maker from New England but the new technologies are awesome and just watching other craftsman work is awesome because we can always learn something.
Welcome to my CZcams family!
i basically love this whole video
except checking squareness with the square you used to cut the square. Thats... that's a bit much lol
They do make them for Kreg. Also the optional SnapOn connector that works on Festool will work on the Kreg Tool guide rails as well. I am a big fan of Kreg Tools. Their customer service is totally PRO. Thanks for your help. TS
I own the 20, 30, and 50 models… truth is, I’ve only used the 20” guides because they fit in a systainer and they’re way more manageable if you don’t need more than 20”. Using the larger rails is unwieldy with smaller stock.
They gave me a special discount due to some circumstances this past summer so I went ahead and bought it all.
I’m sure I’ll use the 30 and 50 for certain applications, but for now, I love the 20” ones. I highly recommend you try them.
The 20’s are definitely perfect for a lot of stuff but since I do a lot of cabinets and bookcases, uppers and lowers, the 30-50 is a must as well.
I’ve had the TSO guide rail system for a few years but haven’t used it in about two years… used this as a refresher and it was almost perfect. What would have made the video better would have been swearing your loyalty to the NY Giants 😂
the small rip rods are nice.
Loved this vid. Very informative. And the trick to replace the MFT was cool. I'll be trying that out soon. Thanks, Anthony!
Oh and btw, I did use your TSO affiliate link when I bought the 50 set.
Glad to hear you liked it, and thank you for supporting the channel!
What do you think about thread locker on the set screws after you calibrate?
I actually just ordered the 30” set. I wish I had watched this before I bought my MFT/3 table. BUT…. I do have other uses for the MFT. So I’m still super happy with that purchase. But I probably would have bought these first. Great demonstration of their use. This has been the best video on them I’ve seen so far. I’ll definitely use your link for my next purchase because i do have more items to get from them.
Did I hear you say you don’t have a table saw any longer? I’ve been curious about this. I don’t want to replace my table saw. But it’s not as accurate as I’d like it to be.
Stay tuned for a video tomorrow morning that will include my very own special discount promotion on the guide rail squares. The promotion will only be active after the video.
I have not used a table saw in two years now. You can see for yourself in all my videos back to 2021.
Great video. Sold!
Note that the 4 star knobs that hold the TPG adapter or rail square to the 20, 30 or 50 parallel guides have a conical self centering feature that makes this parallel guide system so repeatable. The TSO is better than the Woodpecker's set I sent back. It's much better than SENECA that uses Incra Track with Incra movable scales. So much pain that I hot glued the Incra scales in place. I also have the Festool metric parallel guides and have used them a lot over the years, but they are not to portable due to their weight and my age I never take them apart and they almost never leave my shop, and their "blade kiss" setup is a little weird because of Festool toes in their sawblades.
I see no reason for buying a plain Festool track saw guide rail FS as I also use Festools LR 32 system. I buy only LR 32 tracksaw guides and the stick to the wall Guide Rail FS xxxx/2-KP. The only plain rail I have is the 1080 rail on my MFT/3 which sports the TSO MFT Aligned Guide Rail Support Upgrade Kit The only other plain rail I have is a Makita 118 inch. Also I despise any thin kerf blades due to their even thinner blade plates. Anyway, the TSO parallel Guides in any length you can afford is your best bet. They are the BEST on the market and their flip Stop is unbeatable. PLUS on each Metric scale are little scale marks indicating the 32 mm interval. And the rails are marked left and right. Attention to the little details give us extra value added benefits with TSO Products. Great Video on the TSO parallel guides. Lots of information delivered so watch it again.
Thank you for showing me how to use the TSO system. I got a TSO parallel guide system from TSO and
watch your video to learn how to used it.
I’m extremely happy to hear that I was able to help!
Anthony great video , i,m on the market to by a parrallel guide, i’m thinking more for the festool guide what is the adventage from one to each other?
I had the festool parallel guides and they are clunky and not balances well. Very finicky to install on the guide rails and they can only be used off of the ends of any table because of the u-shaped under mount design for the narrow rips attachments. The narrow rip attachments are also a separate purchase besides the measurement marking’s being imperial or metric, you have to purchase to different sets of festool guides. The TSO brand gives you metric and imperial all in one, the narrow rip guides come with the set and the parallel guides can be used anywhere on the guide rail, which allows you to rest them on the material and anywhere on a table. Pretty sure I covered all this in the video.
Thanks for the video. I learned that I can move to the parallel guide bar directly to the guide rail square and it remains calibrated. That is a nice feature! Question: Can I move my flip stops and TPG adapters between the 30" and 50" rails and maintain calibration as well?
Yes, you can and they will still be calibrated. I do it all the time between my 20 and 30 set. I leave the 50 set on the 50 rails because I have the extras but otherwise it would work there also.
@@AnthonyScolaro1 great, thanks for confirming!
Nice!
Really enjoying your channel.
I was wondering about the part where you did the short 200mm crosscut. It appeared that the guide square was barely registering on the board’s reference edge; perhaps only an inch or so.
Would it be better to add a 2nd parallel guide on these shorter crosscuts to give the board an additional registration surface?
The guide rail square is actually running almost fully underneath the guide rail, I see how that can be deceiving in the video but it has greater registration than it appears. However you can still run a second parallel guide at the opposite end, this was just to demonstrate the multitude of uses, especially for those who do not have an MFT.
I didn’t realize the guide rail square went underneath the track. I watched the video again and I see that now. Thanks for the clarification.
I am pretty new to woodworking and mainly do stuff with hand tools. I want to start building some cabinets for my garage and your channel is really teaching me a lot.
My workshop is limited in space. This TSO system along with a track saw and Paulk Smart Bench seems like a good solution for me.
That is a KILLER set up! Please tell me this will work on my Kreg Rail? I am going to buy this system. You Lucky Dog! Very Very cool! TSO are the big Guns right now.
I believe they have a setup for kreg rails, use my affiliate link to get to their website and you can search for the kreg adapters. Here’s my link for the site tsoproducts.com/?ref=Scolaro
Hello Anthony! Thanks for another informative video. I would appreciate your advice on which size TSO parallel guide system to purchase. They offer a 20" inch rail, a 30" rail, and a combo set of 30"/50" rail ($100 more than the 30" set).
In my spare time, I enjoy building small furniture for family and friends (book cases, shelves, tables, etc. in my side-of-the-garage shop. In your opinion, which rail size would you recommend? Thanks again! PS: I don't want to spend the extra cash on the 30/50 combo kit LOL
Please read this entire comment. We’ll you may be in Luck, this weekend TSO is having a 10% off site wide sale and free shipping on orders $49 and up. The sale ends Monday, My affiliate link is in the description and this may actually help you with your decision, however if you do not need the 50” parallel guides, then I would eliminate that first, then I would ask myself what are the most common sizes that I cut. If I cut 20” or less all the time, The 20” is fine but if there are times when you need that little extra for 24” or 28” you don’t have that option, that’s where having the 30” will help. Go with what size you cut the most. By the way, the 20” set also has a systainer that you can purchase to keep it in and travel with.
Anthony, thank you for your reply. I pulled the trigger on the 30” set. And unless I messed up, I think ordered via your link.
I really enjoy your channel, by the way. Be well. Again, thanks!
@@misterm7086 wonderful, enjoy it. If you have any questions, I’m here and you should get all the answers you need from my video. Thanks for support the channel!
very good video, thank you. Seems like you don't need a table saw anymore.
Haven’t had one in over two years now.
Once you've calibrated the flip stops on the 30" rails, can you simply move the calibrated flip stops to the 50" rails without having to recalibrate?
I bought an extra set of stops to keep on all my parallel guides just for that reason. In theory yes, however if you position the guides on a different track or in a different spot on the same track, you run the risk of the stops being off because of the splinter guard. It’s not the same distance to the stop in all spots or on different rails.
Thx, much appreciate your feedback.
You should do some Andrew Dice Clay bits at the end of the video. You sound like him.
You prefer this over the mft?
I already have two mft’s, so no. However, when your workpiece is too wide to crosscut on the MFT, this will do the trick. I’m showing you guys the options to save money. If I didn’t have mft’s, I wouldn’t buy them knowing I can do the same thing with my current workbench or one that I can build for a lot cheaper.
Looking forward to the portable bench build. I'm planning one myself and looking for ideas.
The videos just needs to be edited, so stay tuned.
Is this better than my shitty kreg rip guide.
100%
What is a mft?
Multi function table, you can see it in my latest videos on the media cabinet build
Just got my 30” parallel guides in the mail late yesterday. Amazing video. Keep up the great work!
Enjoy!