Republic Fleet at Coruscant vs. Resistance Fleet Exegol | Star Wars Fleet Battles
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 15. 07. 2024
- The Republic Fleet at Coruscant goes head-to-head with the Resistance Fleet at the Battle of Exegol - which side will come out on top? We'll cover that and more on today's Star Wars Fleet Battle!
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0:00 - Intro
1:10 - Rules
1:37 - Resistance Fleet Strength Breakdown
5:43 - Republic Fleet Strength Breakdown
9:02 - Fleet Versus and Results
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big request...Eckhartsladder fixes the battle of Exegol, he can replace the superweapons and the location but the principle must remain the same...Palpatine has an army of superweapons or a single superweapon and a citizens fleet gathered by Lando or Poe ends up stopping it
Do great with galactic versus video keep it up
Reven vs vader
Separatists vs first order in all out war
One Xenomorph vs Princess Leia and Crew of the Tantive 4
UNSC vs Rebel Alliance in all out war.
Skilled pilots who grew from birth doing this vs a ragtag party who thought the raid boss would be easy.
Your not wrong.
@JoĂŁo Piza Youre'ren't*
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So...(sigh).... Pros and Noobs?....
@@GenericProtagonist118 Can 16,000 Silvers beat 3,000 Grand Masters?
The Chad Clones vs the Virgin New Republic
The Chad Republic vs The Virgin Misfits
The chad Admiral Yularen vs the virgin resistance admirals.
@@toby1061 admiral holdo has nothing on Yularen đ
I am incredibly biased against pretty much *anything* from Disney Canon, so I prefer the clones.
The Chad Prequel Trilogy vs the Virgin Sequel Trilogy.
AKA....The Republic vs " Just people"
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LMFAO
For the republic!
You mean literally almost millions of ships many of which had weapons?
@@charliem6467 did you watch the video? 16,000 ships at the VERY most and thatâs already being considerate, only 300 of which could go 1v1 with a venator, that being the various Mon Cal cruisers such as the MC95. Vs 5000 Venators that held 420 fighters each, had pilots and crew that were literally bred for war, and on top of that a couple hundred newer ships such as the ISD and Victory class, and possibly a couple mandator class super star destroyers.
Looking at galaxy fleet composition, only the bigger MC models and frigates were capable of carrying fighters, and most ships were just converted civilian freighters and older model ships not to be used in military action. Example: the Pelta class was present, despite already being outdated by the time of the clone wars and even in a 20 to 1 advantage against a Venator would not be able to win.
I think the Resistance Fleet at Exegol could win but only if they have Horses.
I definitely agree if they just deployed horses and men on the top of each venator they would win no problem
They could win with finn and his 'just a feeling', no ships required.
The resistance fleet has Rey. She'll just use 2 lightsabers and destroy them all!
In fact all the horses were force sensitive clones. They released them from Palpatine's underground stable. That's why tilting the ships wouldn't have worked.
@@OxxotrOxxotro them being force sensitive clones is now legends. In Canon each and every horse was a death star, with special force and spacetime warping glasses so that the entire galaxy can watch with naked eyes when they are fired.
Republic Fleet all the way. Their ships are less than five years old and have crews of trained clones compared to decades old ships and random people.
??? Well not all of the resistance ships or ships in general would be that old per say tho it is a mishmash of ships from all over. The Republic ships by the time of the new trilogy would be 60 something years old in the timeline.
@@acendantoverlord5737 I think we are looking at each fleet when they had their debut in each movie, so technically the Republic would still have the advantage.
@@acendantoverlord5737 Technology advances slow in star wars, so I don't think there's much of a tech gap between the fleets
@@pixeltcat I definitely agree the Republic wins but it still doesnât change the fact that from the resistanceâs perspective their fighting 60 something year old ships and while âsomeâ of the Resistance ships are ânewerâ and a little more advanced. Like Eckhart said MC90âs I think? Are probably a little superior to Venators and resistance star fighters also have shields while Republic Starfighters didnât, to my knowledge tho I could be wrong? Their âDebutâ doesnât change the fact they are from two different time periods.
@@acendantoverlord5737 The Mon Cala ships are actually MC 95s, and Republic fighters did have shields, otherwise you make a valid point.
The battle of exygol was that battle where the 5 year old thinks of everything that's OP, gives it too the bad guys, and then magically the good guys win even when it makes no sense.
Lmfao. That is a dumb take.
Exactly lmfao
well unshielded, and no high ground, not to mention fancy super Lazer heavy guns don't shoot up, its kinda reasonable
But they have horses
@@charliem6467 how is that a dumb take itâs literally true there should have been no way he lost but no fucking Disney thought thatâs palps should announce himself to everyone basically fucking himself
Disney literally threw a bunch of ships at us and said, âlook at all the ships!â While they all just looked like dots on a canvas...
It is so sad to see âfansâ treat such an amazing scene like this.
I wish they added more ships from all eras of Star Wars for the Galaxy Fleet
@@hell2gophone true
@@hell2gophone they likely didnât have the assets and they were pressed for time
@@charliem6467 I'm sorry hitting ctrl c isn't amazing or creative
The Audience: Where did they come from? Who are they? How are they composed? Is the resistence dead or not?
Disney: *STOP ASKING QUESTIONS!*
Like how did Lando get a bunch of people to come but frickin Lukeâs sister ( I know who she is I just forgot how to spell her name) not get a fleet in the last Jedi!?
Republic capital under attack* all reinforcements are contacted and take some time to get there.
Exogol: hey so there's this sith fleet. *everyone has joined the battle*
Me: that doesn't make sense or the logic is flawed
@@frog6375 The way Luke, Palpatine, Chewbacca Leia, Han and Ackbar were treated by the writers was almost criminal.
@@kyleabrezzi Lol. We got this POWERFUL fleet made up of cutting edge, world-ending Destroyers but... They can't go up.
Let's not forget the giant plot hole from last jedi where Leia calls for help and no one comes.
"Two of the largest fleets..."
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We don't have definite numbers for the Eternal Fleet. It should be noted though that the Star Forge Battle in KOTOR was also large according to secondary media, with more than 1000 ships on each side.
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Republic fleet: venators! Star fighters! Jedi! Some new star destroyers!
Galaxy fleet: Ships! More ships! Tons of ships! Too many ships!
So you are literally whining about how Galaxy fleet has more ships?
@@a_balloon the galaxy fleet will win
The galaxy fleet will wiln all the way
@@Alverymartin.banshee Not really, since "it's just people" and half of them probably never served an army
@@Alverymartin.banshee everybody gangsta until plot armor don't work on good guys
I am rooting for the Republic Fleet at Coruscant
Me too because I despise the sequel trilogy
same, also cause the republic is cooler
I kinda think it would be a draw/tie
im rooting for the republic because you are taking apart its roots which will kill it
@@battledroidcommander234 roger roger
With the the exegol fleet being mostly civilians they would most likely flee or get tired of the fighting and go home
Resistance Officer: "All Deserters will be sho- wait where's the guy who shoots deserters?"
The guy who shoots deserters: "I'm not payed enough for this shit, dasvidanya!"
While I do think the Galaxy fleet is impressive, I think VERY few fleets could take on the full power of the republicâs fleet especially with highly trained clone pilots.
â@CT-2307 but that the thing fighters many many if count let say min 1k vent and again there *more thousands most likely more but let say 1k vent alone.. 484 planes which include example 34 arc 170 192 v wings and 192 light inter so let say min of 200 planes just alone that is 200k planes.... give or take... now add real amount fighters not ground ones space 420 planes not included Clone Z-95 Headhunter
since not really amount but know alot.. so for now just put 420x1000 is 420k... planes... so image thousands
lol yah 16k total ships vs all of them but yes ik there bigships which bit more avd but still vents could hold iy own with planes so in the end Coruscant just out beats the fleet just because pure fighters and vents which all train clones mind you and fully battle war ready.. now them vs 10k star destroyers i would even know but if put my money then they would win also let say 10k vents vss 10k star destoyers is 4.2m figters haha which its my be an x ray but those still meant fight ships like vents so yah my mind go on them also unless includes other fleet enteral empire then unfair both sides.. just pure mass and avd tech
Mon Cals are more tanky than firepower output. And Venators needed several 800m crusiers to be effectivly matched for firepower. Not to mention the Ventaor being a litteral carrier.
Non designed for ship to ship. No you mean not optimised for ship to ship. They are allround cruisers in their role. They in legends at least has an absurdly good PD array.
@@OrDuneStudios if anything the one thing the venator was more for broad side fighting and seeing how the clone wars was basically inspired by ww1 frontal assault tactics I think the republic fleet would def had mighty balls of beskar to go face to face with no fear and tho idk if itâs canon but we did see it as a cutscene on the battle of kamino in battlefront 2 recent game the venator had a mini laser on the under belly of the ship ( palpaltine really like big microwave guns ) also In the battle seeing as how they had Finn going full Valhalla moment charging in with horse Iâd the clones would also have the minds to board the enemy fleet like they did in the original cartoon adaptation of the clone wars as well also if u remember the battle scene of grievous leading his ships into a asteroid ring the clone ( anakins idea really) to use the at te walkers as gun platforms as well since those walkers have magnified feet and are air tight sealed so I would give to the clones to use everything they have aboard a single venator to fight to the last man FOR THE REPUBLIC!!
as i said in literally every reply venators are cargo carriers and clones are jango fett rip off
@@battledroidcommander234
They are mixture of battleship and a carrier/ ya they were cloned and train since birth to have kill in combat/ they were made to kill jedi
Anyone who's played Empire at War knows how this goes down. Generally a well coordinated attack of starfighters and capital-ships annihilates a disorganised mob of enemy star-ships. It's simply a matter of coordinating and allocating your various assets against the threats they can best deal with. Friendly fighters bog down enemy fighters and capitals, your own ships eliminate their escorts/corvettes (anti-star fighter ships), then your bombers and capitals move in to demolish what's left. Commanded by battle-hardened Jedi and clone officers the Republic fleet would fight like a competent EaW player against an easy level AI.
Ah EAW... *fun times,* if only you used more than one cpu core... Iâm upgrading my cpu for you... UwU...jk for the uwu.
I play the game guys
As someone whoâs played the EaW RaW (Republic at War) mod, I can safely say the way I win is just by dropping a super star destroyer on top of their heads and letting it soak the hits while a dozen assorted smaller SDs jump in and shoot everything thatâs not them
I agree but counter argument: a group of nebulon B OP as fuck
Even with fewer ships, with enough discipline and communication the republic could win
The Battle of Exegol was an obvious jab at Lucasfilm trying to get an Avengers Endgame moment, where so many people show up at the last second to battle the evil army. It felt so hollow and unearned.
I think the republic feet would win cause it's an organised military fleet and not a jumbled mess of random ships, also the crew are clones who have been trainer since childhood for their specific duty
The Amount Of Venators with this many star fighters. Sheesh!
venators are cargo carriers and clones are jango fett rip off
@@battledroidcommander234 Then why did the droid army lost?
plot armor
@@battledroidcommander234 roger roger
Do we need to compare this? The Republic fleet gets the edge.
Always of course
@@davidordaz5251 I meant the Venator is more of a carrier than a battleship and having more Starfighters is better than big ships. Real world example WWII US aircraft carriers.
It's fun! I really missed eck's vs series. It's why I first subbed to him
@@paulsteinhauser434 you have a point having more starfighters gives you more of a advantage
@@moosiemoose1337 I don't have a problem with that. I forgot 7-9 and wrote my own story....that is actually a story.
There were 16 thousand ships "created" for the battle of exegol :D
There's not even one memorable though.
Well there was the pelta class
It was already in rebels
@Evan Scammell That's how CGI works
@Evan Scammell they were in a time crunch. also who tf cares
The Exogol battle was a total pathetic shitshow. All those ships and we got less action than we did with the much much smaller fleet at Endor. Was it a budget problem? I've seen better and longer fleet battles from episodes of Orville which had a fraction of the budget. Babylon 5 rendered it's cgi on toasters and had more engaging fights. Its not just Star Wars, nuTrek has been having the same problem.
When the Cartoon has better Space Battles than the high Budget movies... Stargate also Had quite some nice Space Battles, I Always Loved how Dynamic they looked
Also what about the xyston Star destroyers!? Theyâd been hyping up palpatines fleet for the whole movie, and in the final battle, the star destroyers literally sit there, shoot, and have the ties do all the work while the galaxy fleet rips them apart.
Pretty much. Frankly, all the battles in the Sequels were really underwhelming to me. Particularly when you watch Rogue One's space battle and could see some of the overall tactics being used.
The only sequel that you could was TLJ. But they were such DUMB tactics they hurt...
@Ruosong Gao they wanted to do a new ship model for the xyston but they ran out of time to develop a new custom model which takes quite a bit of time to complete
@@bencoomer2000 I'm pretty sure eck did a video on it but (a comparison) but both the republic and empire also made dumb tactical decisions. It's not just a sequel trilogy thing. But it also kinda shows that no matter how powerful a faction is, you always have incompetent leaders who dont always make good decisions. And although I kinda agree that the sequel trilogy didn't have overwhelming space battles. Compared to the ot and pt, the sq was able to do better graphics and cgi which was a plus compared to the more limited trilogies
Just saw the battle of Scariff again. Man is it an amazing fight. The feels when Jynn and Cassian die. The moment Vader comes out being the most scary thing ever, just a couple of simple footsteps and after that a easy fight for Vader with a amazing score. I still see Rogue One as my favourite Star Wars movie, however I have more hope now that the Mandalorian was such a cool series. Also, I just started with the animated series of the Clone Wars and man have I been missing out!
The "I am one with the Force, and the Force is with me" scene turned any sense of the battle's grit into cheese.
The only thing that was scarier than Vader was the dark troopers with their score
Rogue One was brilliant. I know The Mandalorian is supposed to be itâs own story but I hope we see a massive space battle that gets screen time, maybe at the end of Season 3 we could see a massive battle between Mandalorianâs and the Imperial Remnant above Mandalore. Would be amazing to see.
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Well thought out and interestingly designed navy vs Discount Avengers Endgame Finale
Yeah, 5 venator-class star destroyers are well thought out and interestingly designed and hundreds of different ships, all unique in their own ways is a discount endgame finale.
@@Erolsaurus i think he refered the galaxy fleet as endgame discount finale
It's wild how formulaic that ending was. I'd be surprised if these are not written by some AI in some hidden backroom.
The Exegol fleet totally isnât composed of ships designed for previous eras before hand or anything
@@Erolsaurus yeah well at least the venator was something new when it first went on screen and not hand me downs from actually good star wars
Literally the dozens of Lucrehulk battleships at the battle of courasant: "Am I A joke to you?"
he was only counting republic warships, if he included sepi warships the fight would of been over twice as fast
Lord Nagant
Yeah if he was counting Separatist ships alongside Republic ships, heâd have to include First a Order/Sith Eternal ships with the galaxy fleet to be fair
yes
@@SamSalsa411 So? They were unshielded imperial ones with large super lasers that they can't use yet. They would die in a storm of vulture droids.
@@wilberdebeer4696 you'd just see thousands of buzz droids sawing off the lasers
Hmmmmmm. Venator vs. freighters. Y-wings vs. MG-100s
The only damage the freighter can do is throw its supplies at the venator
I think it's also safe to say that most of the exegol ships wouldn't have been fully crewed, whilst the republic ships would have had crews that at had been trained from birth
Add Jedi. It wonât matter the Resistance gets wiped
Well how does that work? The republic would have lost almost every battle depicted in the clone wars show if it wasnât for anakin and the jedi. So take them out of the equation. And the republic is really exposed
finally i found someone who thinks republic would lose
@@charliem6467 > the republic is really exposed
what does that mean?
@@comradekenobi6908 they are at a serious disadvantage and lack serious strat.
@@charliem6467 Stop trying to defend the Resistance would clearly lose Jedi or no Jedi.
I know the Republic wins, you only glossed over the star fighters which would actually be one of the deciding factors. I am going to go with a conservative 1500 Venator SDs there, and just count their fighter complement only not including the fighters of the reinforcement fleet ships of different classes. The Venators have a complement of 420 star fighters of various types. I'm not going to break down the raw numbers by type, but in total with just the 1500 Venators you have 630,000 star fighters. Say you only send out 10% of those as an attack force you still have 63,000 star fighters and those alone would wreak any of the smaller ships of the Galaxy fleet, then the fighters and capitol ships just mop up what's left . That is the one thing they never showed properly about the Venators , their fighter complement is deadly . Even in the 3 ship battle groups you see in Clone Wars that is 1260 star fighters .
Yea he apparently completely forgot that
630k most of which carried missiles and anti ship munitions.
No flak defence is going to stoo that.
Clones pilots playing the immigrant song while having a field day fighting civilians , man
venator is cargo carrier and clones are jango fett rip off
did you forget that the resistance probably has hundreds of anti-starfighter ships and their mon calamari cruisers would frick the venator star destroyers anyway
10/10 stomp for the Republic.
The capital of the galaxy would be guaranteed to possess Star Dreadnoughts.
Ten freighters wouldnât have the slightest chance against a fully armed Recusant-class destroyer with a full complement, and it took a thousand Recusants to draw even with a single Mandator-II, let alone one thatâs fully supported by entire formations of Venators and Imperators.
The Exegol Fleet would only have fighter complements on a fraction of their ships, and theyâd be lucky to have more than a squadron. Letâs say 20%, or 3,200 to be exceedingly generous, and give them two squadrons (24) each, to be exceedingly generous again.
Less fighter-carriers than the Republic already, at 5,000 Imperators and Venators.
Imperators each have a full wing of six squadrons (72). Venators each have 32 squadrons of interceptors (384) and 3 squadrons of heavy fighters (36).
Exegol Fleet gets buried in Republic fighters, and whateverâs left has to deal with coordinated fire from FIVE THOUSAND Star Destroyer-class vessels with veteran crews. Backed up by several Star Dreadnoughts lobbing obscene long range volleys with impunity from behind one of the most formidable defensive screens in galactic history. Itâs not going to happen.
No, the republic would fall.
The republic has like, 1 Imperator or something.
If they had a Mandator or any Star Dreadnoughts, then they would've shown it in Revenge of the Sith, but they DIDN'T. Therefore the Mandator is in another part of the galaxy altogether or just doesn't exist.
The first order had a Mandator IV, the Resistance killed it. They didn't even have full support of all ships in the galaxy then!
Plus the Resistance has a lot of MC cruisers and the support of some of the best pilots in the galaxy. They have the millenium falcon, a ship that has been proven to survive Imperial-IIs, so a much weaker ship like the Venator wouldn't suffice.
The Resistance have B wings that can destroy star destroyers.
Also, some resistance ships (e.g Corellian Corvette) are designed for anti-fighter combat.
5,000 ships? The resistance have like 1 billion at least, lol.
@@Erolsaurus dude thatâs just plot armor if the millennium falcon actually took a couple turbo laser hits it would be done and imperial IIâs donât have anti fighter and small ship weapons anyway, also we donât see nearly all the shi that were at coruscating in the movie there were allot of ships there that we only saw a little bit of, so just cuz they didnât show a victory or tector it doesnât mean those ships werenât there, we only saw a very small snippet of the battle. did u not hear eck talk about how they donât show everything on screen and how the republic most likely had a few victoryâs, tectors, and imperators.
And the ventators also have 100s of advanced fighters and bombers which would prob shred through any of there ships, and around 400 fighters being held in a single venator uno,
and seriously you donât actually think there was â1 billionâ ships at all, like seriously there was approximately 16000 ships and most of them civilian ships from a gud portion of the galaxy.
And the few hundred or so mc ships of varying quality and model were only a small amount of the mostly barely armed civilian ships, and with the thousands of venators, 100s of frigates, heavy and light cruisers, and a handful of victoryâs, tectors and imperators, and not to mention the thousands upon thousands of republic fighters with all of them coordinating together and using tactics, strategy while all being under a command structure aswell would be much more organized than a around 16000 mostly barely armed civilian ships and the few hundred or so mc ships mostly all uncoordinated and just shooting the enemy randomly, I think the republic would win, and yes the exegol fleet would definitely dew a big chunk of damage but not enough before they get shredded.
@@Erolsaurus dude did u read his comment at all? The republic has a bit over a million fighters which can shred the entire exegol fleet I donât think a ca-90 could have any chance of surfing the swarm of y wings and heavily shielded fighters and interceptors, also no offense but o think u should seriously learn about republic ships
>The capital of the galaxy would be guaranteed to possess Star Dreadnoughts.
We don't see any.
>The Exegol Fleet would only have fighter complements on a fraction of their ships
Not all of their starfighters need to be carried in, miniturisation of hyperdrive technology made hyperspace-capable snubfighters way more common by the time of the Battle Of Exegol.
Coruscant was the Planet Palpatine ruled and Exegol was the Planet Palpatine was resurrected
Ok
The battle of exegol makes absolutely zero sense. Just like the entirety of the sequel trilogy.
Yup
star wars makes no sense, also you're not funny
@@Erolsaurus Idk man, donât think he was trynna be funny,
@@craacksteeve1640 Everyone know that haters are pretentious babies.
@@TheRezro And the Sequels defenders (the few that are) even more because they know they're wrong but can't admit it.
I would have loved it if the galaxy fleet included a few dozen Lucrehulk class Battleships!!! Ughhh that would be sooooooo cool!!!
Republic is weak but not *that* weak to lose with "people forces"
Hello there
General... Send the separatist leaders to the mustafar system.
@@sheevpalpatine8136 It will be done my lord
wdym "weak" its the galaxy's equivalent of USA
Lets just say that there were up to 3000 venators in Coruscant, if each of those venators Carried 5 starfighters each then that would amount to 15,000 starfighters.
Obviously a single venator isn't gonna have just 5 starfighters each so the Coruscant fleet would win by a landslide
A Venator has a fighter compliment of 420 fighters and bombers. I'm not sure how many of each type.
Here is a comment from Ted-71tallica:
"I know the Republic wins, you only glossed over the star fighters which would actually be one of the deciding factors. I am going to go with a conservative 1500 Venator SDs there, and just count their fighter complement only not including the fighters of the reinforcement fleet ships of different classes. The Venators have a complement of 420 star fighters of various types. I'm not going to break down the raw numbers by type, but in total with just the 1500 Venators you have 630,000 star fighters. Say you only send out 10% of those as an attack force you still have 63,000 star fighters and those alone would wreak any of the smaller ships of the Galaxy fleet, then the fighters and capitol ships just mop up what's left . That is the one thing they never showed properly about the Venators , their fighter complement is deadly . Even in the 3 ship battle groups you see in Clone Wars that is 1260 star fighters."
Man I really think that the separatist armies and navies are seriously underrated.
Agree
me too
Yes I agree, but for the republic
I want a star wars game where you sneak into a scrap yard and hijack a to be destroyed lukrehulk battleship and upgrade the ship as a mobile base for your fighters and larger ships
The comments just keep roasting the âJust Peopleâ fleet, itâs glorious!
(9:30) Count Eckhart: âNoble, but ineffectiveâ
I'd like to see Resurgent vs Allegiance, although you've probably already done it
Resurgent wins :/
@CSO Class Supercarrier Halo The Fall Of Reach i agree, if we are working off of the numbers given (1000 turbolasers or whatever + kyber crystal tech)
@CSO Class Supercarrier Halo The Fall Of Reach I agree
Who will win a highly trained military with the best personal Vs the people army that was quickly assembled and probably not having any tactical plan. If anything the sith eternal shouldâve won but they had the worst ship ever made in Star Wars plus the planet prevents them from flying up?
I wanna say the coruscant fleet would win due to their high level of training and how itâs organized. Compared to the gung ho âgalaxy fleetâ
Highly trained military with robust command and control methods
Meanwhile with the G fleet: Lerrrrrrooooyoy Mmmmm Jenkins
@@OrDuneStudios the clones to would imploy using the walkers as gun platforms like they did in the cartoon adaptations so i would say the clones boarding the galaxy fleet but like a speed run on steroids
I think it depends on the circumstances. If you combine the basic scenarios of Exegol and Coruscant together (Resistance has surprise attack from above while Republic is defending a planet in-atmosphere/low orbit and both sides get very close very quickly), then most of the Republic's advantages go out the window. Training and discipline can't do you a whole lot of good if you're being shot at from 12 different directions and don't have cover. What the Republic would need to win this is space and time - the ability to break the Resistance fleet into chunks and deal with them one at a time, the ability to rest and resupply, the ability to use terrain (asteroids and the like) to their advantage, the ability to use their fighters at long distance to weaken the enemy, the ability to degrade the Resistance's morale over time until parts of it abandon the fight. In the Exegol/Coruscant scenario, they have none of that - unless the Resistance's morale breaks, the battle comes down to which side is able to score more hits, and that's probably the side with a 3-to-1 or better numbers advantage. (Especially since the Venator is not a substantially better ship than the Resistance's heavier ships - if they could barely scratch it this would be a cakewalk, but the Galaxy Fleet is full of ships that are at least as good as a CIS Munificent frigate.)
Think of it this way: A team of well-trained soldiers with guns can definitely take on a zombie horde if they have space, time, cover, high ground and room to move around. But if they soldiers start off in the same room as the zombies and have no way to escape, they are essentially doomed -- they physically cannot score kills fast enough to defeat the enemy before they take significant casualties themselves and lose most of their fighting ability.
So I guess you just dont like the Star destroyer in General huh, since its basically the same ship from the OT with a big gun at the bottom
@@michaelramon2411 well your forgetting the millions of star fighters the republic has. No matter how superior your fighter is, your gonna get beat by like a 20 to 1 star fighter duel
Ok so, Iâm going to do some maths. Assuming that of the Republic Fleet over Coruscant around 3,000 of the 5,000 ships were Venator-Class Star Destroyers, and that they didnât have their full carry capacity of 420 ships, but instead are at 75% strength, that works out to 945,000 star fighters. Of course this number could easily fluctuate from over 2.1 million if all the ships were Venators at 100% strength, to a mere 315,000 if the complement of the 3,000 Venators were at 25%, but these are still crazy large numbers. The number of 3,000 isnât based on any calculations or lore, but instead made with the assumption that they made up the backbone of the Republic Fleet, and in all honesty, would probably have been higher. If there is any lore out there saying what % of the fleet Venators made up, please let me know, because I would like to ensure the greatest amount of accuracy I can get.
Disney and Marvel Comics should make Comics of how Lando gathered everyone in the Galaxy to join in the Battle on Exegol
How exactly did he get what looked like half of the ships in the core in what I will assume is a few days?
@@OutspokenSeeker lol they had like two days. You probably couldn't gather people from two space stations in that time
@@OutspokenSeeker the only problem is that all of episode 9 is meant to take place within 16 hours and lando getting all the ships within only a few hours, which is a bit unrealistic
@@warrengouldthorpe5091 right? Imagine having to convince all those people who werenât exactly enthusiastic about fighting the first order to try and hand together in an unorganised pack to attack the biggest collection of manned and armed imperial destroyers seen in decades. Itâs an impossible feat.
@@warrengouldthorpe5091 maybe Lando convince everyone to join the battle and overthrow Palpatine since he brought oppression since the clone wars ended and Empire rise to power
Love the use of Republic Commando game footage when discussing Karen Travis!
Oh boy, versus videos ... I can NEVER get enough of those. Awesome work Eck.
Been watching this channel for years now, prolly 4 maybe 5, still click as soon as I can when you come out with a new video. Love your content! Keep being awesome and making amazing content
Reminds me of the battle above the ark where the more well trained elite crews were able to beat the larger brute fleet
then its an even fight all ships fire at will, burn their mongrel hinds
A vs on the first day of 2021? Great year so far!!
I'm watching every second cause I've been waiting for you bringing back this beautiful stuff again!!!!đđ
The Coruscant fleet makes sense because it is at the height of the Clone Wars and grew over years as a response to the conflict against the Separatists.
The fleet at Exegol is stupid because it is randomly assembled in a couple hours from groups who have previously shown no interest in opposing the First Order.
Classis Jar Jar Abrams thinking that just making something bigger automatically makes it better, even if it makes no sense.
It might have been forgivable if there was actually a fight between the 2 groups. But there was nothing. Just some star destroyers being star destroyed and a big lightning storm. Huge waste of time and CG
Itâs nice to see that they keep putting the ghost in the movies
The Exegol battle was Star Wars doing its own area 51 raid.
_Oh, this is going to be easy..._
This is where the fun begins.
I am so glad that these are back!
Who would win, Maul's Shadow Collective at full strength or Grand Admiral Thrawn at full strength?
Edit: Thrawn at full strength vs the coruscant fleet
Thrawn easily. The Shadow Collective had like two Gozantis at most. Thrawn had a fleet of Star Destroyers.
Itâs not even a contest. Thrawn being insanely smart plus the size of the fleet it would be a slaughter
how about mauls shadow collective vs jabba the huts empire
@@griffindenomme706 actually yeah that would be better
Thrawn, maybe.
He clearly outclassed or completed with the best of the Republic Generals, but then there are Jedi generals
The republic would have a bigger fleet with more fighters and better disciplined soldiers, but lesser technology (to a degree)
The Imperial fighters were utter , but the star destroyers and even corvettes can fight better than venators.
I love how Karen Traviss is a minimalist in how many clones in the galaxy and then she just starts pulling thousands of ship out her ass.
Spaarti clones and hidden KDY contacts. It's heavily explored in the books.
Always enjoy your technical analysis! You're the best. Thanks for 2020 and looking forward to more of your expose in 2021! Have an awesome year!
I ABSOLUTELY loved and enjoyed watching this AWESOME Versus video!!!!
REALLY one of my MOST DEFINITE favorites that I have seen SO fraking FAR!!!!
Happy New Year, EckhartsLadder!!! Looking forward to your INCREDIBLE content right here in 2021!!!
I read or watched somewhere that the Republic had some 2,000 Venators at the battle, given a Venator carries 420 Star Fighters piloted by clones then in theory they would have over 840,000 Star Fighters. Given that these were piloted by experienced and battle hardened clones, then this would give the definite advantage to the Republic Fleet with numbers and experience.
This is why I feel like around 4 million clones would have not been enough, that would mean around 2/3 of the entire clone army would have been crewing ships at fighters at corusant
6:51 Wait so the CIS snatches grievous instead of the chancellor? Thatâs nice
I've enjoyed rewatching the versus videos this channel has posted over the years. Quite the nostalgia trip for me
Great video man!
8:33 "Looks like, Palt kept his remaining warmachime down the back of a sofow for a rainy day"
The better title for this is: Dark Souls Boss vs Scrub Newbies
Just what i needed! Thank you!
IVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS
You didn't talk about morale and training, the Clones have a massive advantage in this regard as they would fight and die for much longer than the Galaxy fleet. Especially bas the Galaxy fleet doesn't have the threat of Palpatine in this match up to instill a sense of do or die.
I think the galaxy wouldâve not forget him tho seeing as many grew old would have the fear to push them but these are the goddamn clones bruh FOR THE MF REPUBLIC
The galaxy fleet would retreat once enough of there ships get destroyed
I once did a vs between the Exegol's Resistance fleet vs The New Republic Fleet (counting ships like the MC90s and captured ISDs)
And I concluded it would have been a horrible massacre for the Resistance
This was a different type of vid but i like it
The vids that span generations are always interesting
Thnx for the fun
Love to see an original Eck-style video! These are the types of videos I subscribed for years ago. Still waiting for Jedi vs. Arbiter, though...
anyone remember how in the last Jedi they say that hyperspace tracking was "new" but in rogue one, a rebel corvette jumped to hyperspace and a star destroyer followed suit towards Tatooine, perfectly behind the corvette at the starting of a new hope.
These unorganized, inexperienced and untrained civilians would be massacred by GAR
really enjoyed the info from this one
This video has made me so nostalgic for these videos.
A good versus episode would be the Fleet of Particular Justice versus the First order fleet in TLJ
The Covenant will wipe those heretics from the face of the Galaxy!
Yeah but u gotta remember that inside the republic capital ships there are lots of small clone ships
Happy to see this series return. Oh and maybe the Tie Defender vs the Missile Boat from the Tie Fighter pc game.
I just got the Order 66 Legends novel for Christmas, can't wait to read it. Love the cover art with the Clone Cammando in the animated style.
But according to Rian Johnson, each of those small civilian ships can just hyperspace ram the large republic ships and easily disable them with the collateral damage. 16 thousand civilian hyperspace missiles vs maybe 8 thousand republic capital ships, resistance fleet would easily win through attrition. If this sounds boring, yes, this is precisely why rian single handedly ruined the star wars universe with that one idiotic scene.
Doesnt work the reasonhyperjumping into a star kills you is gravity the same concept behind interdictors then you are stuck at normal speeds inside a star killing you ramming doesnt work unless the object is in hyperspace in whoch case the act of hyperspace collisoon is disasterous but rian johnson misportrayed it as the ships were not in hyperspace
Hyperspace ramming only works if you have enough mass to not vaporize on impact and do no damage. Which a ship any considerable amount smaller than the Raddus, with its 2x ISD mass, two GIGANTIC hyperdrives, and a perfect distance, can't do.
So there is something we normal people called physic
Interesting speculative battle
I could watch that shot at 5:57 all day. Iâll never forget the first time I saw it.
As I remember from reading Bloodline, the best military technology was being kept back by individual systems. That many systems refused to join the New Republic, fearing they might become another empire and that some system defense fleets were as good or better than the New Republic fleet. That said, they didn't have the numbers individually and the NRF was largely kept parked so as not to threaten any of the independent systems.
Bruh Space Trafalgar cannot be compared to Space Bullshit!
The main thing I loved about the resistance fleet in episode nine was how it reminded me of Mass Effect three. Iâm referring to the giant fleet going to earth đ to fight the reapers lol đ
I'm not sure that's a compliment to Star Wars. The thing you most like about itis that it's like something good? Harsh.
@@cioplasmmajic8327 dude that was an AWESOME scene in ME3. đ
@@cioplasmmajic8327 and sure ep 9 was flawed but it wasnât 100 % bad.
@@cioplasmmajic8327 I still prefer Lucasâs script though
@@Steel-101hmmmmmm Lucas's script.... Only thing I didn't like about it was Darth Talon being Darth Mauls's apprentice.....
I love how you mentioned the Republic Commando books when talking about the Battle of Coruscant. That is my favorite Star Wars book series! Yes, the whole hidden military is a massive plot point in the later books for anyone who doesn't know.
I also agree that the Republic would win. Even if there are less, the clones are seasoned fighting machines who have trained since birth, while the Exegol fleet is just civvies in some small ships with some severely undergunned big star ships. And, there is that mini Death Star beam we see a Venator use for 3 seconds, that could one shot an MC-95, and just evaporate everything smaller.
The video I didn't know I needed, but I did
According to The Last Jedi almost all of the resistance fleet would of ran out of fuel long before getting to Exogal. đ
Marauder-Class Corvette vs Raider-Class Corvette
Kom'rk-Class Fighter vs CF9 Crossfire Starfighter
This was great đ
I always loved your diagrams in this series
You should do a battle comparison of the Operation Return vs Endor Fleet.
30 minutes of screen time showing the gathering of the Galaxy fleet would have been great
Iâm glad he brought back the Vs series, this is what actually brought me to his channel in the first place. I also have a few ideas for some match ups
1. First Order (as of TFA) vs. The Republic (during the clone wars)
2. Covenant (Halo) vs. The Republic (Clone Wars)
3. Rebel alliance (original trilogy) vs the UNSC (Halo)
I have always wanted to know who would win in these match ups
Enjoying your latest vids! Iâd like to see you pit the Krayt Empire against the Clone era Republic. Jedi and Sith on each side accounted for.
Loving the older style content
The Republic would most likely win since they have lots of experience with dealing with large fleets, and also since the clones were made for war
2021 baby! It's going to be a vintage year for Star Wars.
I like how he took tactics into account
Straying from the EU storyline was a huge mistake
I like to know how they got all the Galaxy fleet through to Exegol.
They had the signal from Luke's x-wing
@@davidkippy101 The Resistances CR90 corvette following the map seemed barely fit but somehow thousands of ships of similar or drastically bigger size have absolutely no issue even though the came all at once
@@masonkiefer1222 they have enough firepower to destroy the red space tumor
Starting the new year listing to eck on Spotify canât wait to watch episode clone wars is the best.
I remember seeing a pelta frigate in the fleet; 60 years later, they're still kicking ass