Byss Defense Fleet vs. Coruscant Defense Fleet | Star Wars: Fleet Battle
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- On today's Star Wars Fleet Versus we put the Byss Defense Fleet vs the Coruscant Defense Fleet from Star Wars Legends.
The Byss Defense fleet was a force that guarded the deep core and protected Palpatine during Operation Shadow Hand, including the Eclipse Super Star Destroyer. The Coruscant Defense fleet includes all ships which fought in the Battle of Courscant during the Clone Wars, mostly Venator Star Destroyers. Who would win? Find out today on Star Wars Fleet Versus!
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please do an A wing vs Viper mark 2 (BSG)
EckhartsLadder I have a Vs suggestion the flood vs the replicators from Stargate sg1
EckhartsLadder either that or the flood vs the High Council of System Lords also from Stargate sg1
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Battle Breakdown on Battle of Area 51 from Independence Day 1 and 2 please
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An amazing chess game between Palpatine and his cunning opponent, palpatine
He took the saying : "You are your greatest enemy" quite literally
Sooo the clone wars?
“You may have thought it was Palpatine…but it was ME! *Palpatine!* “
Thats the plot of the clone wars lol 😅😅
We have beaten you Palpatine surrender! Palpatine:You think you won but, I have won!! *Palpatine laugh* .
Palpatine was pissed at Vader for loosing the Death Star which lost them 1 trillion credits yet apparently he can shit out entire fleets with no cost or loss.
Sadly this goes even more insane in the sequel trilogy... AHEM hundreads of planet killing star destroyers.
@@StarWarsExpert_ on one of eckhartsladders videos he said their was tens of thousands! But yea one hundred is still so much.
@@isaiahelgin4181 And he says a clone army is expensive.
One imperial style class destroyer says it cost 500,000 million credits. Not about 90ish they had 10k so they must of spent at least 10 trillion due to taxes and cost to make plus paying the worker, so the union cost of one, many other things.
I can't imagine how much Palpatine's new fleet cost.
Why do I see you every vid I watch.
it's interesting how you keep getting top comment
A small load of a million dollars
Finn Clark yeah
10 credits, roughly. Ships sold seperately.
YES, OLD ECKS IS BACK WITH VS!!!!! Thanks man you have no idea how much I love this series.
That Gamer me too!
I can just imagine the Eclipse going full speed and ramming so many Venators out of existence in the first few moments. If they did this they would also stand a much higher chance of winning because the Republic fleet likely wouldn't be able to scramble fighters fast enough; if the rest of the Imperial followed with fighters at the ready, they could punch through then swing around to the likely very confused Republic fleet from behind.
Thats implying that they get the jump on them tho. If both sides were prepared for this battle i think the republic would stand a chance.
@Max Smith, yea, you're probably not wrong.
@@donovanapatang6402, if both were already ready to fight the tactic would fall flat. That being said, if they sat still and let the fighters roll in while blasting into the swarm, they could reduce their numbers and still employ the punching manoeuvre; however, if they pushed in with the fighter swarm then I'd want to tighten my formation into a pyramid shape, as their cap ships push in they'd be forced to go around the sides (any large ships which breached the formation would be immediately targeted) - the core of the pyramid would hold my fighter swarm which would lash out randomly and in mass at the enemy fighter/bombers (again any fighter/bombers that breached the formation would be targeted).
It may work, it may not, but this is how I'd try to beat them. If all else failed I could at least try to make it a Pyrrhic victory for them.
The eclipse could probably single handedly win the battle
Imagine it just foward fireing the super lazer through the group of fighters launched etc
@@celsetialarchives5909, if the Eclipse's laser could defocus it would likely be able to wipe the fighters with little effort; aside from that scenario, no, its purpose is to pop open big targets.
Idea: do an episode where you describe your “perfect fleet”, with access to ships from Star Wars, Halo, Mass Effect, and/or other sci-fi universes.
(13th try)
Fleets aren't really a useful metric, IMO. I like the idea of the best minimalist task force.
Yes!
Warden - Plus the 3 or so times I tried to get him to do this exact video when that series first premiered
Most ships will be from 40k
Adam Rosales I say bar 40k because it’s too overpowered
I know this would be difficult, but can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the whole franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!*
I have made this request: twenty-three times.
Personally I'd go with the Fall of Coruscant. Yes Yuuzhan'tar was the bigger fight (by far since it practically included every remaining fleet in the galaxy) but it was a more or less standard space battle with a more interesting ground assault.
The fall had more variety and more interesting diversions including new techniques and technologies, as well as a lot of coverage in the books in comparison.
While Yuuzhan'tar was a relatively massive engagement it was measured in time under 48 hours. The fall was a fight lasting over a week involving the total destruction of multiple New Republic fleets, the first deployments of YVH droids, the refugee hijacking and ramming of the Coruscant shield, Jedi raids featuring the early use of Shadow Bombs, talk of how the ground batteries of Coruscant functioned and if I remember correctly the first deployment of Yamosk Jammers (although too late to save the day) That's forgetting all the small personal stuff like Ben Skywalker's kidnapping and the destruction of Kyp's Dozen.
I agree wholeheartedly with the result. The Empire was notoriously poor at anti-starship defense, and the venators are essentially carrier hybrids. The starships discrepancy I think is more than enough to give the Republic the win, even with the huge gap in raw firepower.
Don't forget that Clone troopers are piloting those star fighters.
Also sheer numbers
Also, the Allegiance Battlecruiser has no hangars.
@Justafan IV, I disagree and I believe starfighters in the SW universe are overblown. It's either Capitals are useless and their designs incompetent or plot armour being the reason why the starfighters are so...I don't even know. Because if starfighters were the case then the Droids would have won the war against the Republic.
I wouldn't say overblown. Inconsistent would be a better term. There are times when the Rebel Fleet struggles against just one Star Destroyer, then in other times a few Rebel fighters easily disable a Star Destroyer with a few shots. Or CIS fleets struggling to hold and take planets despite the fact that that one Lucrehulk brings 1,000 Vulture Droids on its own. Its as you said, starfighters are only as dangerous as the plot needs them to be.
As strong as the republic was and how huge that fleet was the byss defense fleet is one a whole different level
Dark Helmet Vs Darth Vader (2 nonilllionth attempt)
Spartan Abrams the Schwartz
I'm still waiting.
Not a match
yes this needs to be done
Please eck find this
People get angry about Darth Maul being revived in canon.
In legends, palpatine was revived...
darth maul was revived in both continuities
He literally died in terms of body, and then came back to life by stuffing his soul into a cloned body using the force. Maul was an physical specialist assassin, and got carved in half down a long reactor.
Treize Khushrenada honestly makes Maul's survival sound more credible than Palpetine's
in a world of magic and tech i think cloneing is a better plot device compared to he somehow did not die from being cut in half
at least palpatine did die first and the story has force spirits so that checks out but nothing has really shown being cut in half is nothing but fatal
also would maul not lose most of his force power from loseing so much flesh
Palpatine actually died and only came back as a ghost through sheer skill in supernatural dark side sorcery.
Maul was cut in half and fell 10,000 feet into a planet and somehow physically survived it. (inb4 darth sion)
The full Covenant fleet at the battle of reach vs the First order Ships in The Last Jedi (Supremacy + mandator 4 + the resurgent escort fleet)
thats kind of a slaughter. Not only did the covies have over 300 capital ships, we actually see them use tactics unlike the first order
Spartan Abrams First Order sucks, thanks to poor writing.
I think a more interesting match up would be the Supremacy vs the Long Night of Solace. 2 very large ships, one twice as long as the other.
The Covenant fleet at Reach was enormous, not even mentioning the shipmasters' skill. Spartan Abrams is correct, if the Worst Order did not turn tail immediately, they'd be torn apart by the first 1/10 of the fleet they ran into.
Even if we assume that the Covenant ships can be one-shot by the Supremacy, the First Order still loses horribly to the massive amount of Covenant ships numbering at over 300, not to mention the Long Night of Solace.
I remember building a fleet of seventy Corellian corvettes in EAW [no unit limit mod] and they ground every enemy fleet in the galaxy to dust. The numbers really count.
Completely agree dude. The moment I saw the title I did not even have to pause to know the verdict would come down to the GAR's starfighters. As overwhelmingly strong as the Dark Empire's ships are, a few thousand fighter carriers means you are gonna have more ARCs than you can handle.
Here's a video. What could the Droids do to win the Battle of Coruscant. (Just a suggestion)
I mean steal palps lightspeed away and if they have a shield bombard the shield generator and then fly
UNSC invasion of Starkiller Base
Depends on what the UNSC has
Im thinking post war unsc probably with the infinity leading the charge
Spartan Abrams Along with it's escort fleet of strident/Anlance class frigates and maybe Autumn class cruisers.
GreaterHalo06 this is hard to tell Mainly because starkiller bass wasn’t represented very well in TFA I mean litteraly dozens of fighters brought it down without the whole force in the hole trick.
Joseph Burger True
The Yuuzhan Vong vs the Covenant.
The Tau Empire vs the First Order.
The RCS-class armored cruiser vs the Providence-class dreadnought.
The Eternal Empire vs the Infinite Empire.
T-65 X-wing vs Seraph-class Starfighter.
The Necrons vs the Tyranids.
The Flood vs the Xenomorphs.
The old Republic (Clone Wars era) vs the New Republic (Legends).
yuuzhan wings,tau wins ,idk,eternal wins ,x wing wins,idk,flood wins.
1: Not sure I agree but I can't say I disagree either.
2: Maybe but I think in space the First Order will hold the advantage.
3: I agree with you that the Eternal Empire wins.
4: Not sure, the Seraph was a very high quality ship as well.
5: I'm not sure. They can't infect the Xenomorphs and the Xenos are much more powerful fighters. And they attack in overwhelming numbers and use much better tactics to kill their prey.
Bruce Jedi Lee Cline wars republic would the crush the shit out of the new republic
Bruce Jedi Lee if the yuuzhan vong almost destroyed the entire Star Wars galaxy then they’d crush the covenant, covenant are only seen as an overwhelming force because the UNSC was really outclassed and outnumbered compared to the covenant, but compared to the Star Wars universe, SW would crush the covenant
I doubt it. The New Reublic had a large navy with more powerful ships. Yes the OR had a bigger navy but the NR had much better ships and equally good fighters.
I like the new battle breakdown series visuals. They help me to understand the battles in more detail. Plus I'm a big fan of this series.
I'm not gonna lie: I watch all the way to the end solely for that outro.
Yay!!! You finally did it! Noice.
Recusant Class Light Destroyer vs Something
(Almost every video you’ve ever made has this suggestion)
Recusant vs Assault Frigate
I want to see this.
The Rebel MK I variant.
41st attempt: How would Thrawn do in Starfleet if Q put him in the Academy?
At its peak, the Byss Defense Fleet contained at least twenty star dreadnoughts along with numerous battlecruisers in addition to the devastators. The TIE Droid Fighters proved very effective against Alliance star fighters and the Devastators can keep producing them non-stop while gobbling up Venators.
Each Venator carries 420 starfighters, not including the bombers and gunships that can also be used. Assuming that each Venator can launch its complement, and we'll say 7500 venators since eck says 5000-10000 Venators took part in Cour Defense, that's 3.1 MILLION fighters. If the republic were smart enough they would overwhelm anything that was thrown at them
For the first 2 minutes of the video. I guess that's how Palpatine returns in episode 9
Fallout prewar America Vs. Brotherhood of Nod at the start of the third Tiberium War
While pre-fallout is more GDI, this would be a cool match up, but I don't thin Echartladder is a good place to ask this. Most of the Tiberium Wars are near modern (at their time) which is obviously not sciecne fiction.
well in that case the only major difference between Nod and Fallout America is the existence of Tiberium
Now I want a Fallout RTS game :/
UNSC vs Rebel Alliance (ground battle)
Master Chief Petty Officer John-S117
Are you including ground vehicles or even air support such as an x-wing or longsword?
Kind of like a person versus a hive of hornets. You can kill quite a few, but you'll be down for the count before it's over
Those books about the tragedy of Plagueis the Wise must being selling really well if Palpatine can print new Fleets like nothing
Little though of me:
5000×400 Star Fighters on Republic side= 2.000.000 Starfighters
1400×74 (ISD)+ 30×1.000 (Mini Dreadnoughts) + 5×3.000 (Dreadnoughts) on Imperial Side= roughly 150k Starfighters
Let's say I underestimate the Hangars of Imperial SSD's and give them more fighters, they will never have more than 500k starfighters
No chance
Clone Pilotes are very good, better than Imperials or equal to them
Then the Venators carry V-Wings and ARC-170's, solid starfighters even at the time of the dark empire
The Imperials have mostly crap TIE's and some Droid starfighters which are powerful, but not much more than an ARC
But even if they have 200k TIE's and 300k Droids, there is absolutely, I mean really absolutely no tiny bit of a chance that the empire has the high ground at space superiority
The Republic will slaughter the Imperial Starfighters, gain the space superiority and bomb the fuck out of the Empire with the ARC's and maybe some Y-Wings, and because the Empire doesn't use any Anti-Starfighter weapons on there capital ships, the Republic Starfighters can do whatever they want, take out engines, Bridges of ISD's or simply get some pressure of the republic fleet because the Imperial Turbolasers have to target starfighters, what would help to get the fleet the upper hand and some options for flanking manoeuvres when engines gets taken out (don't forget the number advantage of the republic).
So I think that there is no way the Empire can win this battle because of the massive number AND quality advantage of the republic in terms of starfighters
I would give the battle to the republic, 10 times out of 10
Admiral Thrawn They win, but take high losses. Many Venators will be destroyed before getting to launch all their fighters, and coordinating such an absurd amount of star fighters is probably not the easiest thing ever. It's immensely easier to just move into position with dreadnoughts and blast the nearest enemy ships.
Schwarzbraun That's right. But eventually the massive amount of republic starfighters will overwhelm the Empire. Even if they can only launch 1.000.000 Starfighters they will have space superiority. Also the Venators can launch starfighters very fast because of the shape of the hangar.
You've got a point and I agree but a lot of people are also forgetting the heavy turbolasers on the Venators, the (Legends) Wookieepedia page states that the Venator's main armament rivaled the Imperial 1 Star Destroyer's main battery of turbolasers. I'm not saying that's the decisive factor in this battle but the main fleet of Venators are going to be able to clear the way for their starfighters by killing the Imperial escorts (if there are any) or start knocking out the Imperial Star Destroyers in the Byss Defence Fleet pretty quickly in their own right taking a lot of pressure off of the starfighters in the process.
Corey Micallef Good Point. I don't think the Venators are that powerful (why should the empire develope ISD's when the Venators are rivaling thher firepower and have a much bigger Hangar9.
But your right, even if they have like half or a third of the ISD's firepower it would be bad for the empire
Admiral Thrawn I believe he may be talking about the main weapons. The ISD had octuple (to long name) turbo laser battery’s and the venator has similar if slightly weaker turbo lasers. The ISD outguns a venator due to the amount of turbo lasers placed all over the ship in place that a venator would have used light laser cannons. The imperial was much more anti capital instead of a jack of all traits.
Is it me, or there is no music ??
The empire DOES have a fighter counter. World devastators are basically endless factory ships churning out TIE droids. If you spread them out in the battlefield they can launch fighters almost indefinitely, especially if they’re salvaging fallen ships during the fight. Even if they’re not space worthy they could use dropships and land them on destroyed venators or even imperial ships.
Thanks for telling the music, I G*dd*mn love it since I ve seen a clip of you for the first time.
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (249th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
0:21 Can you believe this dude? smh
I hope he does it
Replicators from stargate? Star wars easily
just keep going man you will get there eventually
NEEEEVEEER!!!!!!!
As the 17th comment and 50th view, Iwill say this again. Sci-Fi Factions Compared: Orbital Bombardments Base Delta Zero (Star Wars), Exterminatus (WH40K), Glassing, (Covenant), Nukes (Battlestart Galactica)
I would think:
You dind't specify really if the exterminatus from WH40K is a simply orbital bombardament or something like a cyclon torpedoes, I'll think you were thinking of normal borbadament (because really cyclon torpedoes are much more faster than the other methods) and that the comparison is how much time similar forces would need to completely erradicate life on a planet:
Covenant: One CSO-Class supercarrier
Empire: One Executor class SSD
Imperium: One Imperator class Battleship
Battlestar Galactica: One Mercury-Class Battlestar
I think this woukd be a close one for the first place, normally in WH40K he Imperium uses other metgos of exeterminatus and only carpet bombardament when there is nothing else, because it's slow and requires an entire fleet to remain several days busy
the covenant CSO supercarrier has 7 energy projectors, so they have far less guns that the Executor, that could shot with hundreds of weapons, but the energy projectors are absolutely devastating, I honestly can't choose for a first place, well for battlestar galactica, I searched information about nuke efficiency but I didn't find anything, still for what I know (I don't really like battlestar galactica so I needed to search information ) theirs ships are far smaller that the others, and carries less firepower, so I think they may get the last place.
I think that to made this more fair, you could make one CSO Supercarrier, one executor, two imperators and something like 10 Mercury-Class
Don't take my claims over battlestar galactica seriously, I don't want to spend all day searching information for a comment :P
There also is the Star Trek General Order 24, plus in theory the USNC Infinity could launch a Nova bomb at a planet, plus Stargate has its Horizon missile, too
Yeah, just tell me what works best and I'll start saying it. Thanks so much for actually correcting me.
1st is Exterminatus
2nd is Glassing
3rd is Base Delta Zero
4th is Nukes
An in depth episode about all the new tech that Palpatine used would be awesome. Am I the only one who thought that when he said "I can't cover everything he brought to bare."
The eclipse could just do a ''the last jedi'' move ... it's perfect for this because it's hull is really thick ...
Adamai Archibald no, it is not allowed to run away
Numbnutslikefood And Also Backpacks micro jumps
You're crazy!! what about the fact that the Dark Empire could take out lie 4000 ships in one volley!?
Not a single devastator could be touched by the new republic MUCH LESS an old republic fleet.
This is an excellent video!
Thank you, EckhartsLadder. Thank you.
(Here comes the battle of the underrated factions.)
The Culture vs the Downstreamers
The Culture vs the Xelee
The Culture vs the Daleks
i think byss imo,stronger more varied ships.more modern tech .gotta give it to the empire
Marin Eduard if nothing else, Byss has like 2 or 3 super weapons just chilling in orbit. That alone gives Byss a massive advantage.
indeed.meanwhile the republic had only freaking venators .and while the venator is a good ship,its nothing to all those superior types of sd and ssd and the super weapons.hell the byss fleet even has superior fighters,such as updated ties,tie interceptors,tie defenders even if i recall.honestly,its looks cool on paper,but in reality,the byss fleet honestly stomps
Marin Eduard It would be even worse if Palpatine himself was involved since he could theoretically do some major damage with his force powers. The force storms especially would do so serious damage.
indeed.like i love the republic and all,its my favourite faction and i love republic tech and clones and all that ,im a die hard republic fan,but they simply dont stand a chance in this .hell the coruscant fleet had a hard time with an invading cis fleet.and the byss fleet is far above that.the gap in technology between this empire and the republic of that time is so great its not even funny
the only way i honestly see the republic winning is if they bring thousands upon thousands of ventaros with full fighter load ,and they just overwhelm the biss fleet wich sheer fucking fighter volume ,but even that is a stretch.they gotta take a lot of fighters and jedis with them ,powerfull jedis at that . but basicaly i see the empire winning 9/10 times
Master Chief vs Commander Shepard
Master Chief wins the majority because of a lifetime of training, augmentation, and a.i. support while also having weapons that are made to go against enemies that are strong enough to go hand-to-hand with a krogon (elite) while also having technology at the equivalent of the reapers when facing the systems alliance and still being able to kill entire hordes of them. then Shepard the space wizard who has training on par with an odst and weapons who shoot sand sized pellets which while faster bullet speed than standard unsc weapons are non the less less-potent with the amount of damage that could be caused when compared with unsc weapons.
P.s. don't even get me started on the half ton starship armor with sheilding vs the latex plastic hybrid armor with paper thin sheilding that most likely couldn't take a grunts punch.
Would love to see a VS match between a couple of the most powerful factions we've seen in your vids, Eckhart: The Forerunners (Halo) vs The Imperium of Man (40K)
Damn thats right. I never even considered the starfighter advantage because its never been one for the republic before because they were fighting the CIS who had even more starfighters. But against the empire who really don't bring in many at all they would probably be a huge tide turner.
Attempt 21: 2 Harrower Dreadnaughts vs 1 Imperial Star Destroyer
Byss takes the win. A single eclipse carried the amount of TL equal to dozens of venators. Byss fleet can literaly eat venators and create assets to use in their fight. Talk about a morale breaker. Unnamed force ships & continuous creation of droid fighters vs unnamed out dated republic fighters equals a win for byss. It's like fighting a non force using starforge. It's a quality vs qty like when everyone compares an xwing to a std tie. Byss may be outnumbered but takes the win.
Aegis030 Eclipse has 500 turbo-lasers Venator has 10 turbo-lasers
One Eclipse = 50 Venators (and I haven’t mentioned the superlaser)
@@Miloreo18 Not to mention none of the advanced new republic ships could even dent the eclipse or the devastators
Eck VS Thrawn
The battle of the ultimate tacticians
I think that when you get the kind of numbers seen by the Corouscant defense fleet, the amount no longer matters, and you start to see diminishing returns. I mean, sure, there was easily 5,000+ ships, but only a few hundred would have been able to do anything at any given point. And, likewise, once you launch a certain number of fighters, they only start getting in each other's way.
Friendly fire incidents would also skyrocket
@@chaosbandit239 You'd probably kill more of your own than the enemy.
UNSC vs System's Alliance
GreaterHalo06 UNSC mid difficulty
UNSC Mac's will devastate system alliance ships the only alliance ships that I think could stand up to the UNSC ships are dreadnoughts which are trumped by UNSC cruisers and even frigates. However a ground based battle really does depend?🤔
GreaterHalo06 Systems alliance would dominate infantry wise, but the UNSC has a way bigger industrial advantage aka vehicles. As well infantry, and navy numbers
MyDuck IsOnQauck Plus spartan's would also give them a upper hand like spartan IV's but then again the alliance has N7 but they aren't super soldiers but depending on there biotics they could give a spartan a tough time
I do feel like this war would boil down to Master Chief vs Commander Shepard
2 CSO covenant super carrier's vs Eclipse super star destroyer
The Doctor v.s. Palpatine and his army during the Clone Wars (no killing him in a different time)
the thing that blows my mind about Star Wars....
The massive size of military forces and how they are still able to pull off "secret" fleet sized operations... I mean there are surely several million personnel involved and "loose lips sink battleships"
Brian Griffin they just turn off all communications
Byss fleet doesn't have palps OR galaxy gun ? Sorry the coruscant defence fleet wins 9/10 times ( you've described it so much I think of it as invincible)
i would give it to the Dark Empire 7/10 being the more technologicaly advance, just a single bellator could take on maybe a fleet of venators alone, and the usage of tie droids and shadow droids gave their swarm technique a proper usage, so idunno, i can´t picture the coruscant fleet winning this one. The separatist were one thing and that one included jedi, but the byss fleet seems way out of their capabilities.
Single ISD solo godstomps all of the fiction omniverse.
I can give you the explanation
Let's see how powerful we can make the good old ISD. Dodonna quote says the Death Star has more firepower than half the starfleet combined. Pellaeon quote says the Empire had 25,000 star destroyers. Death Star yield is around 1e38j, divided by 12, 500, gives an ISD almost 2 yottatons for a full broadside.
Hmm... Not wanky enough.
How many Imperial ships did we even see in ANH? I recall 4 ISDs. Legends is non-canon now, so let's assume that was the entire Imperial fleet (all the ships in the later movies could have been built later). So each broadside would equal somewhere around 11-12,000 yottatons.
Pfft. We need to go wankier.
Going back to Legends (because why not?) I recall that the "Behind the Magic" CD stated that Dodonna's quote referred to not the Imperial starfleet, but the Alliance starfleet. Conveniently ignoring all other EU sources again, the entirety of the Alliance starfleet seen in ANH consisted of roughly 30 fighters. Jumping back to the EU again, an ISD carries 72 fighters of its own, and many books say that fighters are no threat to capital ships except in huge numbers, like thousands. So let's say it takes 1000 fighters to match the firepower of an ISD, and 15 fighters have more power than the Death Star. So an ISD broadside has at least 6.66666666e39 joules.
We've made an ISD more powerful than the Death Star, but that's still not enough.
Let's forget Alderaan for a second, I remember a source saying that the Death Star had enough firepower to destroy "any inhabited planet". As no other qualifications were given for this statement, we can assume it refers to any inhabited planet in the setting. Stretching what counts as "the setting", Marvel published many Star Wars comics, and everything they've ever published technically exists somewhere in their omniverse. An old Fantastic Four comic featured an inhabited planet that "dwarfed galaxies". Let's go high-end and assume that planet was 10 times as big as the biggest galaxy. The largest galaxy discovered, IC1101, has a diameter of 6 million light years. So the Death Star can one-shot a planet 60 million light-years in diameter, and, as per our previous calculations, a full broadside from an ISD is 66.66666666 times that.
We now have ISDs dishing out and taking yields many orders of magnitude greater than the total mass-energy content of the visible universe. But we can wank even farther!
In ESB, we see the galaxy from a distance and it's visibly rotating in the span of a few seconds, meaning it is moving much faster than light. As it takes infinite energy to accelerate to the speed of light due to relativity, everything in the SW galaxy must have beyond infinite energy and durability. An ISD can casually vaporize and survive collisions with objects that have beyond infinite KE, making an ISD's shielding and firepower at least 2 steps above infinite (Aleph 2).
Hmm, now we're getting somewhere. But let's keep going.
Wookieepedia says:
The Force was a metaphysical, spiritual, binding, omnipotent and ubiquitous power that held enormous importance for both the Jedi and Sith monastic orders.
So the Force is omnipotent. That means that, by definition, it's also infinite, and any infinite quantity divided by a finite number is just as infinite. As there are a finite amount of Force users, it stands to reason that every individual Force user is also omnipotent. Many Jedi have been killed by blaster bolts (order 66, etc.), therefore a single infantry blaster fires a bolt with beyond omnipotent power, capable of slaying an omnipotent, omniscient, all-powerful being capable of anything even if it's logically impossible. An ISD has a ridiculously greater amount of firepower than a blaster, therefore the power of an ISD is many orders of magnitude/infinity beyond a weapon which is more powerful than omnipotence.
That should do it.
Can't take a joke about how I wank ISD to the point that it can solo all omnipotent beings in the Fiction omniverse.
For you're latest comment, Need to remind you that, I' m just wanking the ISD, not the Force itself, If the Force can destroy the Over Wank ISD, then the Force can be called the Over wank Force.
Over Wank Force ---->Top-tier Over Wank Force Users----> Over Wank ISD ----> all of the fictional multiverses that existed including omnipotent beings---->Force---->Top-tier Force User---->ISD.
Over Wank ISD solos Coruscant Defense Fleet and everything that is not Over Wank, that's unless we decide to Over Wank the Coruscant Defense Fleet
Keep the Star Wars content alive!
I think the World Devastators have been understated. Given that they literally consume resources and then produce ships would allow them to consume the Republic starfighters as they appeared. Slowly but surely; The Empire would eat through the Republic Starfighters, and the Coruscant fleet would be mulched by the Byss Fleet.
Tau Empire Vs the First order
Hmmm...I might give that to the Tau
Depends on how big the first order is.
MyDuck IsOnQuack I personally believe the first order only actually had a couple hundred ships at most.
Spartan Abrams Compared to the UNSC who has over a few thousand maybe more.
Spartan Abrams The Tau Clearly stomp on the ground but in space it depends
Krogan vs Brutes [145th ask]
Cool idea: Death Squadron (at Endor) vs Jakku Contingency Fleet (led by Rax at Battle of Jakku).
Largest separatist fleet vs the fleet of the enduring conviction
Master Chief (prep time) vs Darth Vader
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I personally think the Coruscant fleet might include Victory class star destroyers but not Imperial class SDs. The Imperials didn't enter production until after Palpatine was elected Emperor by the Republic Senate and created the Galactic Empire.
Basically Big Boi vs my RAW late-game fleets.
The most powerful Warlords with the largest forces under their control did follow reborn Palpatine.
Depending on the actual size of the Republic fleet, the combined starfighter screen would number at least 2,100,000 fighters and bombers, and at most 4,200,000. Needless to say, that WILL most certainly make a difference. In Star Wars starfighters function much like WW2 planes, dealing damage to each other, as well as easily having the potential to cripple and destroy capital ships. And the Republic's fighter screen is well adapted to this task in overwhelming numbers. I agree with Eckharts here. Starfighter make or break this battle just by sheer numbers.
Eck is 100% right about the starfighters deciding everything. Let’s take a look at a ship somewhat comparable to what the Dark Empire’s best ships were, the Executor class dreadnought. They carried up to 12 squadrons of TIE-fighters, and each squadron would have around 12 fighters on average for a total of 144 fighters.
By comparison numbers-wise, a Venator could carry 35 squadrons of fighters for a total of 420 fighters. That’s almost 3 times what some of the Empire’s largest capital ships could carry. And don’t forget, we are talking hundreds if not thousands of Venators.
The Superweapons are less effective against a large amount of smaller ships, which is another advantage.
As per the Wiki, A Venator can carry up to 416 fighters (32 ARC-160, 192 Actis and 192 V-Wing) times that by the say 1000 Venators you get a massive 416,000 fighters and it would only keep growing as more of the fleet enter the fight. So i would give this to the Republic as well
this is attempt 76:
Yuuzhan Vong vs. Reapers
* Remember, do this vid on attempt 130 please
* Dude I'm loving these Fleet Battles: they're engaging and just super cool
Grand Admiral Thrawn's 7th fleet from the canon vs Admiral Trench's droid fleet from the Battle of Christophsis during the clone wars.
You havnt ever done it before but I would love to see the Eve Online universe brought into the channel. Tons of lore, factions, and ships!
Thrawn's fleet including the Katana dreadnoughts VS the Kamino defense fleet from Star Wars the Clone Wars season 3
"Shamelessly stretched an extra 10 seconds" I'm dying
Echartz ladder is basically like school for me
One note Eckhart, all the Imperial Warlords did heed Palpatine in reuniting for Shadow Hand-mostly out of fear of his super weapons, force power and their own weakened state after the Imperial mutiny.
I just realized this was a new video. KEEP IT UP!
Thanks for the video really wanted to see this battle
Even considering the huge advantage in starfighter numbers that the Republic would have, the Dark Empire would likely inflict enormous amounts of damage just from five ships alone: the Eclipse/Eclipse II and the four Sovereigns. Those alone, depending on how quickly their superlasers can charge and fire, would outright annihilate a large chunk of the attacking capital ships unless they could be taken out early. There's also the matter of the World Devastators, which were nigh immune to conventional starfighter weaponry and would likely tear apart Republic vessels to build more starfighters for the Imperial side.
Basically, the outcome of the fight depends on how the Republic could handle the Imperial superweapons.
You should do this style for high charity defense fleet vs Endor fleet. Minus Death Star and high charity it self
Just came out of shower "A surprise to be sure but a welcome one"
Please do a battle breakdown for the battle of Amarah. That's one of the funner battles in 40k, involving things like ships throwing around the hearts of dead stars and ramming. Another fun battle might be the the invasion of boros prime, if just due to how much of a cluster **** that one ended up being. It had lots of fun things in it too, like a huge infernus class battleship and a cairn class tombship.
A video about how the UNSC won the spacebattle of Requiem that appears as the cinematic intro of the Spartan Ops
the republic used the larger ships Dreadnoughts Mandator (8 km), battlecruiser Praetor (4 km)
For the Republic! Watch those wrist rockets
Next time you should do one where it is the old republic vs the new republic
So basically the Eastern Front of WW2 in a nutshell.
Germany: builds big boi super tanks
Soviets: *SPAMS T-34’s*
One thing you glossed over is that the fighters used by the Rebuplic were piloted by Clone Pilots which when compared to Imperial Pilots actually were better due to that specific training happening basically at four years of age, whereas most of the Dark Empire's best pilots were either aging Clones, or more likely regular run of the mill people who joined the Imperial Army, and did not have the same extensive training as Clone Pilots did. And as such with also the massive fleet of fighters would be able to outgun and outman the Imperial fleet of fighters even with their more advanced TIE fighters, because one of the best real world examples to compare this battle to is World War II, specifically when Russia invaded Germany in retaliation for Hitler's betrayal towards them. Germany focused on better armour, planes, ships, and weapons but the cost was too great and they didn’t have enough to deal with the massive amount of outdated but still formidable armour, weapons, and planes that the Russians brought with them. The T-34 was not a good match in a battle with a Panzer tank, and would be crushed by a Tiger tank, but multiple T-34 tanks would be able to overwhelm a Panzer and Tiger tank and outgun it. The Empire focused on better ships and blasters but their advanced weaponry and ships for elite units was not vast and so those elite troops could easily be overwhelmed by an inferior force if the numbers were too heavily against them. Not to mention that while the large ships on both sides had exceptional point defence systems for their respective ships, the Republic dealt with enemy fighters more and so they had more point defence systems meaning that said systems could provide flak fire taking out enemy fighters as they headed towards the main fleet to do damage to the closest ships. Another problem the the Byss Fleet would encounter is that the larger size of their ships meant that they could not effectively fire on enemy fighters without substantial risk of hitting their own ships in the process which could lead to multiple ships being taken out due to accidental friendly fire wearing their shields allowing a barrage of heavy cannon fire to overtax the shield generators which would lead to failure and subsequent destruction of the ship.
If each Venator carries 432 fighters, that’s about 2.16 million fighters if there are 5000 venators. At full power, we would be looking at around 4.5 million Arcs, V-wings, and headhunters. I think that it’s pretty easy to say that 1 arc equals 3-4 tie fighters.
Pride of the core vs. Super Star Destroyer
This isnt about a few thousand venators on the republic side. Its about the 1 million plus starfighters that will be flying around on the republics side alone.
I would also consider location. If the Byss Fleet attacked the Coruscant Fleet at Coruscant, then the Coruscant fleet will have increased moral and will want to win that much more. Same if the battle happened at Byss. But if this takes place in the middle of nowhere like Jakku, Ryloth or Hoth, neither side will give it their best.
Don't forget about those SPHAT Cannons.
Lol that extra 10 seconds
I would love to see a Nebula Star Destroyer vs Bothan Assault Cruiser :)
Tardis(Dr.who) vs Heart of gold(The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy)
A Sojourner Class Forerunner Dreadnought vs. The Coruscant defense fleet.
I think the Republic would likely have a couple of Mandator 2s and Praetor MK-1s in system which would even the odds.
Pride of the core vs. Super star destroyer
These fleets are huge!