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  • Super star Destroyers are a big deal in the Empire, but how many did they have?
    Edited by MarMarBunBun
    Two fleet renders by @mrpuertorican
    Additional renders by ConnerJB
    ISD models and textures by evilbobthebob
    Vengeance model by Terribul, Oseritzel
    Vengeance textures by MrPuretorican
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  • @CoreysDatapad
    @CoreysDatapad  Před 7 měsíci +53

    Special thanks to MarMAr for editing, and MrPuertorican and ConnerJB for some of the still-image renders.
    List of what I forgot so far:
    - 2 SSDs that were part of Black fleet (I thought for some reason they weren' confirmed as battlecruisers or SSDs, so I left them out, but Before the Storm does say all 3 are Super-class)

    • @Steve-em4tb
      @Steve-em4tb Před 7 měsíci +1

      I think they weren't Executors (Intimidator was the only one) but other Star Dreadnoughts, like the Vengeance, Mandator or Bellator.

    • @robinblagg6132
      @robinblagg6132 Před 7 měsíci +3

      another one you've missed, the SSD Vengeance from the X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter Balance of Power campaign(s)

    • @JonarusDraconius
      @JonarusDraconius Před 7 měsíci +1

      What about that one-off Imperial invasion ship from 'Jedi Knight 2'...? Or was that not big enough to meet the 7km requirement?

    • @thedatatreader
      @thedatatreader Před 7 měsíci +2

      @JonarusDraconius
      You mean the Doomgiver? That was only 1,600 meters according to wookiepedia.

    • @JonarusDraconius
      @JonarusDraconius Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@thedatatreader Really? The same length as a basic ISD? Seemed *way* more special than that!
      Lets see... Ahh! Wookieepedia say ">1600m" - So Greater than, or, to be fair, 'not less than' might be a better way to say it. So yeah, it was at the very LEAST 1600m, but could have been longer. And it is mentioned that it was definitely 'taller' than an ISD, so even if the length IS the same, the overall 'bulk' would be greater.

  • @Drave_Jr.
    @Drave_Jr. Před 7 měsíci +427

    How most of the Imperial Dreadnoughts were destroyed/taken out: Way too easy to sabotage.

    • @daralcampbell2171
      @daralcampbell2171 Před 7 měsíci +15

      Makes sense it’d be a resource drain without the bottomless bit of the Empire

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw Před 7 měsíci +97

      @@daralcampbell2171 it makes zero sense people just wanted their characters in stories beat the odds but everyone did it constantly lmao
      Boy I sure hope like 5 guys don't break in and destroy this unbelievable expensive massive ship like it is taking a freighter and sabotaging it

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw Před 7 měsíci +17

      @@nnnn11112 that's not so much a plot armour thing as much of a scale thing
      I have no issues where the super ships get sabotaged I like when imperial nerds cry (it's funny)
      Its the scale that bothers me like you need way more coordination and probably people to get one of these things crippled.
      Like you can't steer these obnoxiously large thing like a one person piloting it
      And being fair it's not even a Jedi thing plenty of other time it's just operatives

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@nnnn11112 Jedi are kind of designed to be 1 man wrecking machines lol

    • @ssn2186
      @ssn2186 Před 7 měsíci +12

      Don’t even need to be a Jedi, with plot armor R2-D2 destroyed an eclipse and became a planet killer along the way

  • @tTaseric
    @tTaseric Před 7 měsíci +221

    I have to respect just how many unique images of Executors you have.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +113

    16:28 SPECIFICALLY R2 was the one who crashed the eclipse into the GGun and destroyed Byss. Chopper seethes in jealousy at Legends R2's killcount.

    • @enisra_bowman
      @enisra_bowman Před 7 měsíci +22

      Imagine Chooper and R2 have an "competition" like Gimli and Legolas

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@enisra_bowman Legends R2>Chopper>Disney R2 well, I guess it depends on how much chopper actually got done in the Clone Wars.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Shocking how karma hasn't set in against him during the Legacy era, although a certain distant future Tales comic involving a decrepit Threepio may have finally done it.

    • @Speedster___
      @Speedster___ Před 7 měsíci +9

      killed DS1 too if you think about it. droid probably has most tonnage killed

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +8

      @Speedster___ R2 was fried partway through the DS1 fight, remember. He can't get the usual credit while unconscious for the killshot. He did carry the plans though...

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +153

    If I had a decicred for every time a Star Dreadnought rammed a Torpedo Sphere, I would have two decicreds, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

    • @CoreysDatapad
      @CoreysDatapad  Před 7 měsíci +65

      That we *know* of.

    • @matthewturner5178
      @matthewturner5178 Před 7 měsíci +14

      They want to pop the big balloon. Wouldn’t you?

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Před 7 měsíci +6

      So, that leaves, what, only one Torp Sphere remaining as of the Yuuzhan Vong War?

    • @seanholland1947
      @seanholland1947 Před 7 měsíci +1

      What are torpedo spheres

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@seanholland1947 Corey might have a video on it already but they're massive almost spheres (They used to be like a third or quarter the length of a SSD and far thicker but they didn't get scaled up when the Executor went from 8km to 19.) They're loaded with torpedoes to nuke down part of a planetary shield so the generator or projector below can be blasted with turbolasers.

  • @BoonThran2
    @BoonThran2 Před 7 měsíci +235

    such a shame that these beautiful ships were destroyed so easily

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Před 7 měsíci +8

      I do like the Vengeance class, with it's razor thin, dagger like shape

    • @Etaukan
      @Etaukan Před 7 měsíci +27

      The opposite of plot armor; the more powerful a bad guy's ship is, the more fragile and vulnerable it is.

    • @a_tree5793
      @a_tree5793 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah well that's what happens when your writing staff has a combined IQ of 6

    • @iamblight707
      @iamblight707 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Many took down entire fleets or decimated entire worlds before being destroyed.

    • @yourstruly4817
      @yourstruly4817 Před 7 měsíci +7

      And by rebel scum

  • @mattwilson8298
    @mattwilson8298 Před 7 měsíci +82

    Apparently the bigger the ship, the easier it is for 2 people to sneak on board and wreak a bit of havoc.

    • @NeSeeger
      @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci +14

      The imperial "shyness" away from automation and droids, from fear spread after the clone wars, led to such ships have WAY too much crew then needed.

    • @archaean2331
      @archaean2331 Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@papapalps2415 Both canon and legends agree on 280,000 crew with canon also stating 38,000 troops and support. That's like a five second check my guy, come on now.

    • @archaean2331
      @archaean2331 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@papapalps2415 Sorry I should've finished.... Versus a Subjugator class the crew of which consists of 23,350 for a ship roughly a quarter of the size and less advanced, and apparently can have a minimum crew of 900 which is a tad obscene in the opposite direction, but the point still stands.

    • @archaean2331
      @archaean2331 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@papapalps2415 My point is that a ship with that is very comparable, literally a quarter the size, can be operated with an 1/8th the crew. So yes, the Executor class specifically as well as most star dreadnoughts are excessively inefficient with crew complements. To the point even as is stated in the video that zero command was incapable of crewing their star dreadnoughts, signifying an extreme lack of automation, versus other, older ships. See my point yet?
      Also, yes, scale is indeed comical in star wars. The GAR was.... not even comically, obscenely or absurdly but some combination of all 3 combined, undersized for the conflict and enemy they faced. That doesn't excuse other obvious failures in scaling when on other occasions scaling is properly achieved.

    • @jenniferpomotov8329
      @jenniferpomotov8329 Před 2 dny

      There are more places to hide and sabotage

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +63

    I had figured the unnamed executor at Fondor was meant to be the Terror's replacement. Given it was being built with a cloak.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Still a waste, though at least the vessel was made with Muggle accessibility in mind. (Sorry not sorry, Stealth-X.)

  • @Reverenz88-14
    @Reverenz88-14 Před 7 měsíci +23

    I'm just loving this whole business with "a group of rebels board and steal/destroy an Executor". Like, I can just picture - a quiet day at Wilhelmshaven, the anchorage of the Imperial Navy. A group of dudes on dinghies sneak in, board a dreadnought... and take it out to sea... and actually get away.. It reaches new heights of ridiculous so much so that it's cool😅

  • @josesanchezrodriguez1783
    @josesanchezrodriguez1783 Před 7 měsíci +33

    Something interesting about the Night Hammer is that it shares it's name with the 18th Sector Army which was also headquartered on Eriadu. It's name likely comes from this and not from Delvarus' lover.

  • @hanifloka130
    @hanifloka130 Před 7 měsíci +43

    If I had a nickel for every time an SSD rams into something, I'd have 4 nickles. Which to be fair, isn't a lot but losing those SSDs must've hurt... a lot.

    • @nicohahnel8239
      @nicohahnel8239 Před 7 měsíci +8

      The Lusankya destroyed a Vong World Ship (the first every destroyed) and its commander, the father of the military leader of all Vong und creator of the Vong war doctrin. The lost of the World Ship shocked the Vong thinking these ships can't be destroyed which buyed enough time for the Galactic forces to reorganise and beat the Vong.

    • @ericzaiz8358
      @ericzaiz8358 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Out of tge four...
      Lucy was the best use of the Ramming since it had massive Stragetic and tactical ramifications making it worth it.
      The Eclipse 2... is a far second since she got a collateral on Byss.
      But since that was done by Artoo assuming control and not willingly be the crew kinda doesn't count when compare to the other 3. More of an enemy action deal.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@nicohahnel8239 Not the first destroyed. There were a couple of small worldships destroyed via weird nonsense on the ice planet in Vector Prime. And Kyp aborted one. Borleias was just the first time we saw one destroyed in a space battle.

  • @andrevivier3783
    @andrevivier3783 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Gotta love the party-sized space Doritos

  • @Theology.101
    @Theology.101 Před 7 měsíci +46

    There is just something so visceral about the Bellator’s narrow frame, ya feel?

    • @projectblackwing2510
      @projectblackwing2510 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I feel ya

    • @TheTrytix
      @TheTrytix Před 7 měsíci +4

      Same can be said about the Vengeance and it's even narrower frame.

    • @InvictusMatrix
      @InvictusMatrix Před 7 měsíci +2

      Or the Arc Hammer and it's even even narrower frame.

    • @Theology.101
      @Theology.101 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@TheTrytix yeah but it lacks the hump. That sorta mishapen look really speaks to me

  • @brandonrooney5106
    @brandonrooney5106 Před 7 měsíci +21

    Corey, god bless you for this long form content. It’s all so high quality. I’ve gotten so much cleaning done listening to your longer videos in the background lately.

  • @TheKingofbrooklin
    @TheKingofbrooklin Před 7 měsíci +8

    Dalaa clearly didn't know that in naval tradition renaming a warship brings bad luck.

  • @nomar5spaulding
    @nomar5spaulding Před 7 měsíci +17

    You're making me want to play more EAWX. Warlords Period is definitely my favorite thing in Star Wars (Legends or Canon).

    • @TheEventHorizon909
      @TheEventHorizon909 Před 7 měsíci +4

      He is literally the lead developer of the EAWX mods, Thrawns revenge (the one set post endor) included

    • @matthewturner5178
      @matthewturner5178 Před 7 měsíci +3

      This is what we call “marketing”

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci

      @@matthewturner5178 Technically since he can't get payed for the mod, the mod is marketing for the channel

    • @TheEventHorizon909
      @TheEventHorizon909 Před 7 měsíci

      @@DIEGhostfish he can get paid for the ads on this video tho lol, also Patreon

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci

      @TheEventHorizon909 I know, the channel and patreon are the money makers, so the mod is an advertisement for the channel was the joke.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +3

    Imperials and Yevetha just throwing down those uno reverse cards.

  • @Cerran032
    @Cerran032 Před 7 měsíci +10

    I would love to have seen the Terror decloak during a losing a battle, single-handedly turning the tide

    • @tuscan9617
      @tuscan9617 Před 6 měsíci +3

      There’s a Fanfiction where this happens in the closing moments of the battle of Endor. Akbar was stunned to find a trap inside of a trap.

    • @dixieslav1274
      @dixieslav1274 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@tuscan9617sounds interesting. Can you direct me to it?

    • @tuscan9617
      @tuscan9617 Před 5 měsíci

      @@dixieslav1274
      Dauntless - Imperial Officer SI (Star Wars)
      By BlackDragon98 on Spacebattles

    • @SoshoKozadokaGojiraChargedUp
      @SoshoKozadokaGojiraChargedUp Před 7 dny

      It's just like:
      Terror: *Appears* "Buenos dias fuckboy"

  • @chjeremy6538
    @chjeremy6538 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Schrodinger's Super stardestroyer, simultaneously need million of troopers to operate and get taken over by a few saboteur

  • @eccosong
    @eccosong Před 7 měsíci +10

    50+..huh yeah that sounds like enough for every Imperial Remnant to have been able to pull an SSD out of their ass. Seriously felt like those things got passed out like candy after the Empire fell.

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 Před 7 měsíci +6

      I mean, it is the galactic empire. 50 actually seems kind of short when you think about it.

    • @egoalter1276
      @egoalter1276 Před 7 měsíci +4

      The british wmpire had 32 dereadnought battleships in service in 1917, with 4 more on the stocks, and twice as many pre dreadnoughts.
      These are their equivalent in SW. 50 of them for a power that controls significantly more than half of the inhabited area seems low if anything.

    • @eccosong
      @eccosong Před 7 měsíci

      Oh i'm sure the Empire had a whole lot more, even if SSD's were probably the most expensive thing they built short of the two deathstars, though the real question there is what happened to all of those.

    • @eccosong
      @eccosong Před 7 měsíci

      @@papapalps2415 True, though i'm mostly talking about things around an Executor's size, of which i doubt they had one for all 1000 or so sectors, though with the amount that crawled out of the woodwork post Endor, maybe they did. lol

    • @alexanderzippel8809
      @alexanderzippel8809 Před 2 měsíci

      There are 25.000 ISDs. There is roughly 1 SSD for 500 ISDs…. A ratio way smaller than anything you can find in real life

  • @jabcreations
    @jabcreations Před 3 měsíci +2

    16:11 "luckily for Palpatine he just had to hop in to a new clone body."
    Because? Because fuck Episode VI.

  • @nerdwatch1017
    @nerdwatch1017 Před 7 měsíci +4

    The one thing I loved about the first order’s Supremacy Star dreadnought was that is was used to build there star destroyers and service them. That’s something that definitely I’d want put into my SSD ships.

    • @NeSeeger
      @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci +2

      The Supremacy might have to be re-classed as something bigger. Im not sure what tho. Supremacy class Starbase Dreadnought?

    • @nerdwatch1017
      @nerdwatch1017 Před 7 měsíci

      @@NeSeeger that works

    • @nerdwatch1017
      @nerdwatch1017 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@NeSeeger or SSF Super Star Fortress

    • @NeSeeger
      @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@nerdwatch1017 That sounds perfect, SSF

    • @nerdwatch1017
      @nerdwatch1017 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@NeSeeger I wonder if Dave Filoni has plans for more of those eye of scion rings to do a Outbound Flight type story idea down the line

  • @davepeters1311
    @davepeters1311 Před 7 měsíci +1

    cory i love you thank you for doing this. most SSD lists only include executor-types, so thanks for bringing the rest of the SSDs to the limelight

  • @violetlight1548
    @violetlight1548 Před 7 měsíci +13

    As impractical as ships like these are, you can't deny they're cool (and Rule of Cool is what half the tech in SW operates on).
    I've come up with my own class of Super Star Destroyer for my Empire of the Hand AU:
    Renaissance-class Super Star Destroyer (about 12 km long)
    Built: Kuat Drive Yard’s Spiral Shipyards, Nirauan system. Officially finished construction in 21 ABY, but Admiral Parck would occasionally make use of its incomplete state before then.
    The Renaissance class is a shorter, wider, heavier-set, ship than the more familiar Executor-class SSDs from the old Galactic Empire, taking several design features from the prototype Eclipse class, including integrated interdiction technology, a complement of over 400 TIE Defender fighters, and a superlaser capable of cracking a planetary crust (or a Yuuzhan Vong world ship). Like other Empire of the Hand designs, the Renaissance-class’ bridge is not located in an exposed tower, but rather deep inside the ship, with cameras and a powerful sensor suite compensating for the lack of viewports. Borrowing from Mon Calamari designs, the Renaissance-class also utilizes overlapping shield technology. As well as standard Imperial weaponry like turbolasers, tractor beams and ion cannons, the Renaissance -class also utilizes Chiss Ascendency weaponry such as Plasma ball launchers and breacher missiles.
    The main difference from the earlier class (and, the "selling point" that convinced then-Grand Moff Xelarra to sign off on its creation) is the ability of the Renaissance-class to carry up to five Imperial or Spiral- class Star Destroyers on the hull itself, with the smaller (but still capital sized) ships docking on five triangular recesses on the main hull, 3 on top of the superstructure, two below. The Renaissance-class can thus act as a mobile repair station as well as the command ship. Its main hanger bay can internally carry ships up to 300 m in length (i.e. the size of an Arquitens-class light cruiser or an Explorer-class research/scout vessel).
    The Renaissance also has integrated Interdictor technology, and is equipped with several cloaking devices (necessary because of the ship’s size). These two systems cannot normally be used at the same time, though Grand Admiral Thrawn remembers a few tricks learned earlier in his career to get around this limitation. As cloaking devices are double-blind - they protect a ship from detection, but said ship also cannot see outside of it when activated through conventional means, the cloak is most effectively used with the cooperation of an Imperial Knight, who can use the Force to sense outside the cloak. However, with proper timing and practice the cloaks can be used without the assistance of Force-users.
    As the Empire of the Hand did not sign the Pellaeon-Gavrisom Treaty, they are not prohibited from using cloaking devices.
    Known vessels in the class:
    SSD Renaissance
    CO: Fleet Admiral Voss Parck (19-28 ABY), Grand Admiral Thrawn (28 ABY +)XO: Commodore Eli Vanto (28 ABY+)
    Starfighter commander: Colonel Jagged Fel (28 ABY +)
    Flagship of the Navy of the Hand. Displays the same Paccosh signil as the ISD Chimaera on its hull.
    Commissioned by Fleet Admiral Parck, in anticipation of Grand Admiral Thrawn’s rumoured return in 19 ABY. Thrawn (actually his clone, known as ‘Raw’nuru’ until he was ready to retake the mantle of Grand Admiral) did not take command until the beginning of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, after the Evacuation of Lysatra.

    • @NeSeeger
      @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci

      Their overall failure is partially the same as to why the Imperial class failed. Imperial starfighter doctrine was terrible considering only about 10% of pilots actually passed the training. The TIE/ln fighter is ok but its shortcomings fail it overall.

    • @NeSeeger
      @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci

      @@papapalps2415 Imperial-classes (both 1 and 2) failed to win the war for the Empire. This was mostly due to naval doctrine. The lack of proper fighter support left the large vessels vulnerable.
      My opinion is based off of what we are shown over the games, books, comics, shows, and movies. However large, numerous, or deadly these ships were they lost. Because they, like most of the Imperial military, are shown to be VERY incompetent. Around a dozen are destroyed in the rebels series alone costing over 37K ship personnel plus complement which accounts for around 47K.
      TLDR: Yes they, ISD1 and ISD2, were wildly produced and were very powerful, but they are more often then not shown to be not very successful in what they were designed to do, and a big part of that failure is their starfighter complement.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@NeSeeger but those two classes did served long after the Galactic Empire's fall.

    • @undertakernumberone1
      @undertakernumberone1 Před 5 dny

      @@NeSeeger THeir over all failure is mainly because "rebels are good guys and need something great to overcome. It needs to look and be impressive, but it can't be so powerful that the rebels have no chance." Stuff like Iron ist VS SOlo Command. Even before Iron Fist was 19km long, it shoulda been much nastier for the rebels.
      Then again, X-Wing novels are basically the equivalent of a WW2 based 60s Saturday Morning Cartoon and tehy really shill the rebel fighters. IN ANH, and even RotJ, the TIEs are basically on par with the rebel fighters... Meanwhile everywhere else: "KD RATIO 1:500!!!" and such.
      The issue aren't the designs. The issues are the writers who used, and still use, a very shallow approach of "Emprie gets this big thing, so that the Rebels can destroy it."

  • @matejkar
    @matejkar Před 7 měsíci +6

    A fan ship i would like to see some lore created for is the Wyvern of the Abyss by Jamison Cunningham. By looks alone it appears to be the largest super star destroyer in comparison to the ISDs in the preview animation.

  • @AlexeyPiet
    @AlexeyPiet Před 7 měsíci +4

    As an Historian for Imperial naval Developments and Warfare you can provide the sources for all the data you have here, right? (Just a joke)
    Yeah, the Datapad with it's clean presentation of informations is my top Star Wars - Nerd Channel!
    There is nothing like the smell of Turbolaser trails that crushed local planetary Rebel cells in the morning!

  • @m2ndgigdh543
    @m2ndgigdh543 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I remember one massive Imperial ship from the game Jedi Knight 2, I can't probably remember the name more but I think it was calld "Doomviga" or something like that.

    • @CoreysDatapad
      @CoreysDatapad  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Doomgiver, yeah. Its size is unclear but even the larger possible estimates wouldn't tend to get it into the SSD size class.

  • @23GreyFox
    @23GreyFox Před 7 měsíci +6

    I like the Mandator 2 and the Bellator-class much more than the Executor-class. In all the games it looks like a smaller ship with the same firepower, so that it is easier to bring all your firepower on one point.

    • @zaleost
      @zaleost Před 7 měsíci

      Honestly I much prefer those two designs as well (both in general and in game). Often I find that it works far better to have a fleet with one reasonably large ship that has a smaller enough cost that you can deploy it alongside a larger number of capital ships, rather than a single big ship that practically has to be deployed on its own.

    • @TheAns51
      @TheAns51 Před 6 měsíci

      imo bellator is my favourite ssd class. It's design is so cool and it looks like it could easily take any other ship ever build (without any superweapons).

  • @cptjoseph13
    @cptjoseph13 Před 7 měsíci

    very happy you made this, i would like to see a list video for lesser imperial warlords if possible as i hadn't heard of some of the ones in this video

  • @NeidalRuekk
    @NeidalRuekk Před 7 měsíci +4

    By the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War, only one DEFINITELY remained, the Guardian. There was talk of a 'Super Star Destroyer' in the Imperial Remnant's hands, POSSIBLY the Megador, but it was only seen once and linking the two is guesswork at best.

    • @CoreysDatapad
      @CoreysDatapad  Před 7 měsíci +3

      The Megador was seen repeatedly, it played a big role in the following books.

    • @NeidalRuekk
      @NeidalRuekk Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@CoreysDatapad Beyond the Swarm War I didn't read much

  • @fernandoqueirozpopovic7024
    @fernandoqueirozpopovic7024 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Finally some star wars lore i can actually get behind.

  • @intruder313
    @intruder313 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I bet 'Destroyed by 2 Jedi' is part of the Construction Timeline for these :)

  • @JaxonHaze1994
    @JaxonHaze1994 Před 7 měsíci

    Great stuff! I'm looking forward to the wacky super weapons video!

  • @artyfartblast3289
    @artyfartblast3289 Před 7 měsíci

    RTD, you know exactly how to press the buttons of old fans. And I love you for it! Thank you for these beautiful moments. ❤

  • @thegreenmanofnorwich
    @thegreenmanofnorwich Před 7 měsíci +4

    I prefer the Eclipse to the Eclipse II. I just think it's got a more interesting design amd looks kind of gnarly and mysterious.

  • @genesiswan4018
    @genesiswan4018 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Sure enough…most fans doesn’t know SSD Vengeance… the task force vengeance led into Airam Sector and the SSD was destroyed by Rogue Squadron but the campaign was a draw where the Rebellion could not establish a shipyard in the sector while Imperial could not eliminate the Rebel forces and loss their SSD

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads1982 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Vengeance Class Super Star Destroyers should 100% be added into Star Wars Canon.

  • @clonebin0
    @clonebin0 Před 7 měsíci +1

    As someone who's a big fan of the novels, great job with this video!

  • @Littlemilkjug533
    @Littlemilkjug533 Před 7 měsíci +3

    My favorite is the Arcadia class in the mod it just looks so awesome

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +2

    I always wonder if the Eclipse 2 was put together from a sovereign at the last minute.

  • @drumsofberk
    @drumsofberk Před 7 měsíci +1

    Scrolling past my recommended, I read the title in the thumbnail as, "The Empire's Doughnuts."

    • @NeSeeger
      @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci +1

      Those would be the torpedo spheres

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ Před 6 měsíci +1

    I do love Dark Empire blobs ^^

  • @nickraupp6104
    @nickraupp6104 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Honestly more than anything these videos keep me coming back to EaW Thrawn's Revenge and that's perfectly okay with me

  • @NightshadeDE
    @NightshadeDE Před 7 měsíci +5

    Didn’t the guardian end up over mon Cal during the Vong war? I might be mixing up my large triangles

    • @NightshadeDE
      @NightshadeDE Před 7 měsíci +1

      Not trying to um actually here just wondering if I am remembering that right. Great video as always Corey, especially the Night Hammer line almost spit out my coffee.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +2

      Guardian was at Mon Cal for the final battle there yes, IIRC could not repair and refit and get across the dovin basal mines in time to make it to thr recapture of Coruscant.

  • @yoshi5920
    @yoshi5920 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Is it ever explained how they simply “hid” the lusankya under Coruscant’s surface?

    • @andrewbutton2039
      @andrewbutton2039 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Been a while, but I think they disguised it as a skyscraper.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci

      @andrewbutton2039 It ran under the city, the city was rebuilt atop it, and all witnesses mindwiped by Palpatine possibly with Inquisitorial assistance. Until a later source said it was built at Kuat, one theory was that it literally got built in-place by the droids that demolish and rebuild coruscant.

    • @Ethan0433
      @Ethan0433 Před 7 měsíci +2

      That comes from X-Wing: The Krytos Trap.
      As far as hiding it, the Empire literally razed a 100km area of the city, landed the ship on a massive repulsorlift platform, then rebuilt the city over it.
      It wasn't hiding so much as buried.
      It shot it's way out and killed millions, then punched a hole through a 2 layer planetary shield to get out.
      There's a section where Wedge was wondering if the Emperor was able to use the dark side to wipe everyone's memory of that to keep it secret, since the alternative is they simply killed all the witnesses.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci

      @Ethan0433 Krytos Trap itself wasn't clear how it got there, just a selection of theories. And *technically* they lowered the shields before Isard had finished shooting her way out of the bottom one. The alternative waa her turning the guns on the city to force them to drop it.

    • @Ethan0433
      @Ethan0433 Před 7 měsíci

      @@DIEGhostfish So yes, those are theories, but given I haven't found other info on it, I figured the book where it leaves was probably a decent source.
      And yes, it absolutely shot it's way out of the shields. Once it breached the lower shield, forward guns focused the upper ones while the mid-ship and rear ones kept the lower hole open.
      The ship then engages one of the Golan defense platforms, which manages to break the SSD's shields, and they jettison the lift cradle to block fire while they escape.

  • @gbadspcps2
    @gbadspcps2 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I don't care how impractical they are, I love Super-Star Destroyers and the ridiculous size and firepower they have.

  • @omganotherun
    @omganotherun Před 7 měsíci +2

    FYI - Many of these are modded into "Starsector" and are quite playable. Slow as fck, outrageously expensive, inefficient and tough as nails. It will give you a wonderful opportunity to experience these massive ships in the environment they were meant to be in; slow and gigantic fleet battles where it lumbers into into the enemy, daring anyone to enter its weapons range.

    • @MusicalBoarder
      @MusicalBoarder Před 3 měsíci +1

      What is this game you speak of?

    • @omganotherun
      @omganotherun Před 3 měsíci

      @@MusicalBoarder Just put "starsector star wars mod" into CZcams. "Starsector" is the pc game and there is a giant up-to-date Star Wars mod bringing a vast menagerie of SW ships and planets into it. They went way too hard in adding every obscure fighter craft SW has to offer.

  • @shadowhenge7118
    @shadowhenge7118 Před 7 měsíci

    Such a cool design.

  • @egoalter1276
    @egoalter1276 Před 7 měsíci +10

    The merits of mahanism in a monopolar world are perhaps somewhat questionable, but its not like the Uas suddenly decommisionaed its CABGs at the end of the cold war.
    Star dreadnoughts are the capital ships of SW and are the ultimate tools of sea (well, space) control. Their importance and power is sufficient as evidenced by the waelords era, to single handedly turn the outcomes of entire campigns. You may be able to build tgojsands of snubfighters for the cost of a single executor, but they will not win you a campaign to conquer a major core world. A star dreadnought might.

  • @ccghidorah1
    @ccghidorah1 Před 5 měsíci

    I don't know why, but I've always headcanoned the Dominion as a Vengeance class SSD. There's no basis for it... it just clicked in my head like that.

  • @frozarburst6350
    @frozarburst6350 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Seeing how many get destroyed, as Vader would say, "All too easy"

  • @achiltsompanos447
    @achiltsompanos447 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The honour of having the thickest plot armour in every franchise, by far, goes to the rebels, hand down. I mean one regular SSD should be enough to wreak havoc on any rebel fleet and their rickety, outdated ships. And yet the rebels have managed to destroy, death stars, SSD and the likes.

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver Před 7 měsíci

    0:41 the best TCG out there

  • @LibertyandFreedom4
    @LibertyandFreedom4 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Ok, wait, wait, wait. Will NOT be talking about any ships UNDER 7km, just think about that. That is 4.35 MILES long, currently the largest ship EVER built was the Seawise Giant, an oil supertanker that was a staggering 1504 ft/458.45m with a total tonnage of 260,941. The largest moving object built on earth and yet it is comparable to only a 418 Arrestor/Imperial Class II Frigate/Vakbeor-class cargo frigate, just, FYI.

  • @NeSeeger
    @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci +1

    The superweapon focus would be cool. Seeing the Tarkin and Darksaber

  • @CCCCC40
    @CCCCC40 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video thank you

  • @bellidrael7457
    @bellidrael7457 Před 6 měsíci

    I love how time and time again officers used these ships as their flagships.
    Meanwhile the mortality rate of officers using these ships as their flagships-

  • @lek1223
    @lek1223 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The Bellator and Allegiance Class battlecruiser are my two favorites, any bigger than that and they just become pointless.

  • @michaelwhitefgguocv4713
    @michaelwhitefgguocv4713 Před 7 měsíci

    Love the watercolors 😊

  • @abt7560
    @abt7560 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is the first video I watched in 2024

  • @peterkallend5012
    @peterkallend5012 Před 4 měsíci

    All we really learn here is that if you make a really big ship, it'll attract a lot of attention. Most of the largest warships in history were sunk after having little to no effect in battles in their respective theater or war (Bismark, Tirpitz, Yamato, Arizona, Oklahoma to name a few). It also reminds me of one of Murphy's combat laws, don't be conspicuous because it draws enemy fire.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish Před 7 měsíci +1

    The other option for the Mystery Super Ship in Destiny's Way is a Vengeance, and one of the two ships (Most fans seem to agree with you guys rhe Dominion is "only" a Bellator, but often make the Megador thr same mystery ship from Destiny's Way, and a Vengeance or Executor with a different engine count from custom work)

  • @undertakernumberone1
    @undertakernumberone1 Před 5 dny

    honestly, the main issue regarding the "usefulness" of Dreadnoughts, or basically ANYTHING Imperial is simply that they are the designated villain. As such, their stuff exists for our heroes to be destroyed, or captured, or captured and destroyed. TIEs in the OT are shown to be not that much worse than X-Wings, yet supplimentary material makes htem wet paper. THe bigger the weapon, the better for the heroes that destroy it. If the Empire then has something that isn't either cheap throaway stuff or super expensive super weaponry, and/or would hard counter Rebels, like the Lancer, it's something that gets excused away.
    Or the effectiveness of Stomtroopers. Tantive IV gets overrun in short order. Echo base falls...
    Rebels are the good guys, Empire is the villains. If we'd move it to earth and the Empire was using Fletcher class destroyers, they would still find a way to make them be "a waste of ressources" or some such.
    Adding to that thanks to the size history, there was stuff like "Iron Fist VS Solo Command", which even in the 8km days shoulda been weighted in Iron Fist's favour.
    The issue isn't the ships, a lot of the time, but "Rebels are the good guys and gotta win. Their stuff needs to be either "better", or at least more efficient."

  • @andrew3203
    @andrew3203 Před 6 měsíci

    Can't help but notice that 99% of the Jedi/Rebellion/Republic/Rebels strategy was not to build up a proper military to engage the enemy, but send one or two people to deal with the enemy army/fleet/galactic invasion/superweapon and hope they manage to save them. This spans over centuries of galactic history and dozens of games/books/comics so it is something very appreciated by the public.
    Even worse, the Rule of Two has the Sith do the same (when they are not in power at least, but often even if they are) Still, the Sith are the ones who build armies/fleets/large ships and superweapons , which makes them the more rational ones in comparison with Jedi.

  • @KamenRiderGumo
    @KamenRiderGumo Před 7 měsíci

    I was hoping my man Jerec would get mentioned here.

  • @gundam116
    @gundam116 Před 7 měsíci +1

    These things are so huge they should literally have millions of turbo lasers? Don’t know how they couldn’t kill any other ship.

  • @palious13
    @palious13 Před 7 měsíci

    I had a character in the d20 Star Wars roleplaying game who was tricked by Vader and the Emperor into believing the rebellion had killed the woman he loved and so he became a Sith and 8 years after Endor he launched an attack against the New Republic with three identical Executor class destroyers, each captained by one of three female triplet sisters. His goal was to convince the New Republic he had developed a new super hyper drive so that they had to spread forces out to defend several systems and when the attack came, he would overwhelm the defenses with his fleet. He also design asnd built a huge ship, almost 50 KM long, that contained a black hole generator as a primary weapon.

  • @d-man9921
    @d-man9921 Před 7 měsíci +1

    What about Darth Jar Jar's 69km long superheavy interceptor dreadnought?

  • @sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462
    @sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 Před 7 měsíci

    The Vengeance and Eclipse 2 are my favorites.

  • @kristopherruiz7644
    @kristopherruiz7644 Před 6 měsíci

    2:43 ultimately it was destroyed by the weight of Wedge Antilles TITANIC STRATEGIC GENIUS

  • @lach3v
    @lach3v Před 4 měsíci +1

    Which game(s) have you taken the footage around 4:59? Is it Empire At War: Forces of Corruption, or another one?

  • @tupe444
    @tupe444 Před 7 měsíci +1

    moral of the story: don't let your self destruct button be so exposed

  • @darthvail1
    @darthvail1 Před 3 měsíci

    The old canon is so great

  • @DDayJayke
    @DDayJayke Před 2 měsíci

    Super Star Destroyers ARE worth it Corey! And I'll show you why, when I defeat Rey Palpatine and her friends for the glory of the Sontaran Empire!!! Also, they just keep having them get sabotaged cause they are too lazy to write them off in an epic battle

  • @jayburn00
    @jayburn00 Před 7 měsíci +1

    "How rich and core they were." Describes the source of half of the political discord in the star wars universe.

  • @NobleNathan55
    @NobleNathan55 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Where did that clip of the ssd rising over it looked like sullust come from?

  • @sheilaolfieway1885
    @sheilaolfieway1885 Před 7 měsíci

    wish we had more info on the ARC hammer considering you actually go inside it in Dark forces.

  • @otakurt1149
    @otakurt1149 Před 7 měsíci

    for a ship with that much raw firepower it sure has some insanely flimsy internal security/defense

  • @grantponciano9386
    @grantponciano9386 Před 4 měsíci

    As much as I see the oversized ships being an allegory for giant ships being destroyed in real history, a part of me wishes that we got to see the super star destroyers unleash some damage before their destruction. Even the death star got to fire at least once... Lol

  • @Anstras1_431
    @Anstras1_431 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Got to Love how know one knows what the fuck Megador is. Like, they don’t tell us in ANY of the series they show her in. Like you would have thought Legacy of the force would have given us Something but NO

  • @Wolfen443
    @Wolfen443 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Nah, the problem with that big Star Wars ships and designs is that they trapped by the plot armor trap where they are used to highlight the triumph of the underdogs. they should not be taken seriously as actual effective ships, By contrast Babylon 5 does consider its larger ships far more seriously, especially the massive bombardment platforms.

  • @grandadmiralm7117
    @grandadmiralm7117 Před 7 měsíci

    I was just wondering how many of these were in existence

  • @toddkurzbard
    @toddkurzbard Před 7 měsíci

    MORAL OF THE STORY:
    If you're the Empire, don't let Jedi anywhere near your Super Star Destroyers.

  • @dcaf94
    @dcaf94 Před 7 měsíci

    7:59 cracked me up lol

  • @leviwalpole7288
    @leviwalpole7288 Před 7 měsíci

    Was the Aramadia class mentioned?

  • @davidtaylor9593
    @davidtaylor9593 Před 6 měsíci

    Stupid question, but where does all this backstory come from? I know there are a lot of STEU novels

  • @samfromportadown
    @samfromportadown Před 7 měsíci

    This video started to get comical half way through, when it was up to like the fifth or sixth ship destroyed by a small band of rebels sneaking on board and sabotaging it.

  • @Zagoreni02A
    @Zagoreni02A Před 7 měsíci

    I would say that Intimitador was either destroyed by Chiss, some other unkown but powerful race or Yuzong Wong.

  • @justinhess2747
    @justinhess2747 Před 7 měsíci

    Would a battlecruiser video be on the horizon? Redemption for the Praetor..

    • @NeSeeger
      @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci

      The allegiance and some others.

  • @mykaela7726
    @mykaela7726 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Was there not the Executor class SSD Vengeance from the game X-Wing vs Tie Fighter 2: Balance of Power?

    • @maddlarkin
      @maddlarkin Před 6 měsíci +1

      Exactly what I was thinking

  • @roguenine9LU
    @roguenine9LU Před 7 měsíci

    I might have missed you talking about them, but I don't think you mentioned the Executor Class Vengence from X-Wing vs TIE Fighter: Balance of Power.

    • @ThomasMusings
      @ThomasMusings Před 7 měsíci

      It's mentioned in passing (or at least its image is)

  • @J_Ferriss
    @J_Ferriss Před 7 měsíci

    Capital ships are so easy to take out. C3PO can single handedly take out a Deathstar.

  • @elominsha2336
    @elominsha2336 Před 7 měsíci

    Did you miss the SSD from X-Wing vs TIE Fighter: Balance of Power expansion, that was rammed with a blockade runner?

  • @mightvedroppedjury5324
    @mightvedroppedjury5324 Před 4 měsíci

    Are these in game what’s the mod pack fr especially the mandator 3 ssd

  • @jiyuhong5853
    @jiyuhong5853 Před 7 měsíci

    1:28 where is this shot from?

  • @Sephiroth144
    @Sephiroth144 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I refuse to call it the Executor (like the lawyer); she's the Executor (the variant of Executioner) and always will be.
    (Seriously, what's heading Death Squadron- a lawyer or a killer?)

    • @iratepirate3896
      @iratepirate3896 Před 6 měsíci

      You dont have to be a lawyer to act as an Executor. It is anyone that deals with the process of distributing assets and cash in line with a will or intestacy law.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@iratepirate3896 And does that like the flagship of Death Squadron would be named after? Or would an archaic version of Executioner be more in line...?

  • @Speedster___
    @Speedster___ Před 7 měsíci

    Description is off?
    Also I believe Rakehell counts

  • @rickforespring4834
    @rickforespring4834 Před 7 měsíci

    in eve a dread can't even defend itself depending on the fit. haws for subcaps and cap fit for caps. no drones, no other fitting for smaller ships defense, so any dread has to have a fleet around it to defend it. star wars had it right!

  • @AlextheRed1917
    @AlextheRed1917 Před 7 měsíci

    Seems like the Empire's issue wasn't really the superweapons being a waste but instead a lack of security for said weapons.

  • @lukatomas9465
    @lukatomas9465 Před 7 měsíci

    I think that you missed the Executor-class Vengeance from the X-wing vs TIE fighter campaign.

    • @NeSeeger
      @NeSeeger Před 7 měsíci +1

      You're right. Its pictured at 9:37 but that section is about the Whelm