The Empire's MASSIVE Fleet of RED STAR DESTROYERS Explained
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Today we take a look at the Crimson Command - the Empire's fleet of Red Victory Class Star Destroyers. We cover that and more in today's Star Wars Legends Lore video.
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“Massive fleet of Red Star Destroyers”
Booster Terrick would like to have a word with you
lmao yea
Da Orks would like a word with ya.
Dude! I know right? That guy spent a fortune scrying the galaxy for enough red rated hull plating pigment to cover most of his personal star destroyer.
@@SephirothRyu lookz like da hoomiez r finaly starten ta figur out dat red onez go fasta!
Booster don't exist no more, The Mouse™ un-person'd him...lol
Shipyard: How much red paint do you need?
Palpatine: Yes.
Fun fact, in one of the Legends novels it was stated that white was the only paint color produced in enough quantities to meet the demands of the Imperial Navy.
@@robertnelson9599 Yes, it was the novel "I, Jedi" I think.
What can I say, red is a pretty cool color.
It was the metal shining red, not color as far as I know.
@@michaelandreipalon359 grey is just withered white
"When Natasi made her emergence from the Maw Installation."
*This was largely considered a bad move.*
@@michaelandreipalon359 Natasi Daala was called many things throughout her lifetime, sane was never one of them.
"Zinge was power hungry"
Also from the looks of it, actual hungry
*Zsinj
Mean
@@SnoW-pk9zo twas a playful jest
You just know that they have never read a star wars book and just sit on CZcams when they call Warlord Zsinj ‘Zinge’
@@inlizwetrusst7904 lol I've read the entire EU and Old Republic audio book series. I LOVE STARWARS. Lots butt hurt incoming..it was a joke 🙄
Cool stuff, still can't believe we have not gotten the Victory-class in live action or in the cartoons, such a cool design and would imagine the Empire built many thousands of them, probably be great for base delta zero operations with its combination of turbolasers and I would imagine some high yield concussion missiles
Missed opportunities in Revenge of the Sith and The Clone Wars. I mean for Revenge of the Sith they could easily have thrown a handful of Victories (plus some Carrack class cruisers, Dreadnought class cruisers ,modified Acclamators and modified Consulars) amongst the Venators in the background of the Battle of Coruscant to give the Republic fleet some diversity comparable to the CIS fleet. Most of the hard work in designing them has already been done by secondary contributors. All Lucasarts film had to do was create official models whether physical minature or digital cgi
Imagine Thrawn with this many victory star destroyers.
Bel Iblis: watch those interdictors.
*50 victory star destroyers pop out on each side next to the coruscant force.*
In the book 1 pops out for each interdictor on two sides of the fleet or something like that.
Be like Halo Reach
"The crimson command was actually crimson" - EckhartsLadder 2021
The dark force Was actually dark too
And da orks ahr green! YA NEED MOAR DAKKA!
Too be fair, not all "color" names have the ships the actual color.
Communist star destroyers are communist
And the Empire is imperial
Imagine Thrawn in command of the Crimson Command. He would have defeated the Republic long before the Noghri stabbed him in the back
He would even win the Supremacy Fleet
@@sumukhvmrsat6347 he would have annihilated the New Republic
Probably not, most likely takeover and create a Galactic alliance, because he's not a war mongerer he's Thrawn so prepare for Vong
@@sumukhvmrsat6347 if he could not defeat the republic before the vong invasion, he definitely would have gone for the Galactic Alliance, but otherwise his goal was to restore the empire
His most prioritized goal was safety of chips so anyway can work
Actually the crimson command was colored red because the hulls of the ships were made from a different metal then regular imperial warships. Due to a shortage of warship Materials in 3 aby caused by the construction of the second Death Star. An imperial admiral order kuat drive yards to use different red metal for the 100 victorys.
If this was in the sequel it would be call the "sith star destroyer"
Xyston Class star destroyer
Xyston-Class Star Destroyers are also known as Sith Star Destroyer. But it is pretty easy to mistake them for Imperial models because ILM couldn't be bothered to create an entirely new ship. Making them completely red would've been cool as admittedly the Xyston's look like they came from the Republic Navy during the Clone Wars.
@@jamiewalsh3349 it would have been better if they used the harrower dreadnought as it was the sith empire primary vessel
@@max-and1 They would've been a nice parallel to the Rebel Hammerheads which were also Old Republic ships originally.
@@jamiewalsh3349 yeah but it seems that disney likes respawning the emperor and isd's
The Victory class doesn't get enough attention.
One factor I noticed you overlooked was that the Victory-I/II star destroyers were also much easier to crew and maintain at effective crew levels than the larger and more crew intensive ISD-I/II's. It's also why that most of any newly built vessels for the Crimson Command were Victory SD's. They simply made more sense from a economical standpoint, both on construction materials and shipyard facilities but also from a perspective of getting enough crew to effectively fly them.
Hopefully all these new star wars shows will bring back more legends content. More warlords, empire of the hand, crimson command. Brilliant
Daala had just about every advantage.... and she threw them all away. They keep talking in the books about how she was a genius commander that was taken note of by Tarkin while in school... and they don't show it. Even if you try and say she was blinded by rage or whatever at the loss of the empire its still not excusable. Had she bothered to get more intelligence on the state of the New Republic and come up with a better plan then: move everyone off a Star Destroyer and throw it at Coruscant... well she could have done major damage.
Yeah, I never liked her and can’t understand why writers kept using her.
my new favorite ship is Tie Defender.
Good that’s mine too
TIE Defender is fucking glorious
Welcome to the club :D
Im still trying to get used to it.
@@kodyw2960 oh yeahhhhhh
2:24
Random asteroid in space: time to do a backflip
its a Vong spy ship! :O
_Red Dwarf theme plays oddly appropriately in the distance_
Also, I wonder if the Imperial Remnants will have _Victory_-class Star Destroyers in The Mandalorian one day. I'd like to see Thrawn commanding a big fleet in The Mandalorian.
I love how the only picture of teradoc is gas choke man.
The reason they’re painted red is to make each ship 3x as fast as the normal ones.
orkish logic
Nooooow we’z finkin’ boyz!
The empire: POWER IS GREATER THAN LOYALTY.
The first order: Loyalty is greater than power.
The final order: Peace is a lie.
The separatists: roger roger
Sith Empire:Say hello to suprise attacks when you don't expect
Vong: wait for your enemy to shoot themselves in the foot with a superlaser, then *grind whoever's left into dust*.
Mandalorians: Mechanized beasts are your undoing
Yuuzhan Vong secretly watching the galaxy endure countless wars throughout the years: “Now that’s a lotta damage!“
Yuuzhan Vong finally invading the galaxy in full force: “How about a little more?”
If thrawn had control of this during his campaign. He would be able to steamroll the new republic
But you are Thrawn
@@mandalortemaan7510 for all legal reasons I am dead. But prepare for the Empire to be brought back to its former glory
@@historydude6022 I don't see * wink *
@@historydude6022 ah hello my friend
The iron fist should have been painted red too and rename as the Crimson Fist
More like Crimson Dagger
More in purple with crimson parts for the Imperial/crimson first reference.
How cool does a star destroyer look in red? The red alloy they were plated with was called 'Havod'. They couldn't get the usual doonium plating so used Havod instead.
"Red star destroyers"
[Soviet Union intensifies]
Lol
Paelleon: "Daala, please surrender control of the Crimson Command."
Daala: *muffled hardbass in the distance*
Paelleon: "...Daala?"
StOUR Destroyer.
1:00:
“Tibana? Cruisers? Detonators? You want it? It’s yours my friend, as long as you have enough credits!”
“Sorry Luke, I can’t give credit. Come back when you’re a little, MMMMMM, richer!”
Thanks a lot. Now I can’t in see this.
Yes
Morshu as Imperial grand admiral would be slick
Finally, someone else who think that Zsinj looks like Morshu. 😂
This is certainly a fun light cruiser. Even better when painted/made red.
YEH, DA RED WUNZ GO FASTA.
@@SlappinDaHoe Indeed they do. WAAAGH!
Now to add some lightning bolts on the side...
I find it crazy how the empire managed to have a huge fleet and yet get destroyer by a somewhat small rebel fleet
Ah the negotiator.
Rebels had the power of plot
Its due to a superweapon called a ridiculous amount of plot armor
@@papapalps2415 you must of fast forward through all, or not read about all the lucky shots, Ewoks, Space Whales, the unbelievable incompetence of Imperial forces, obvious technical flaws, and sabatoge missions the Rebels carried out or relied upon in almost every instance, especially in Disney canon where the Empire is mostly gone in a year. Plot armor withstanding, at least the post-Endor Legends timeline made more sense.
@Papa Palps you know that the empire didn’t immediately die after palpatine and Vader died it still took a while
God I absolutely LOVE the concept of Crimson Command. It's one of my most favorite concepts from EU/Legends.
The reason the Maldrood was my first campaign on Thrawn’s Revenge
Why am I just learning about this now?!!!
MOST DEFINITELY fraking enjoyed this video, my dude!
I’m just here to say please never change your outro. That doggo is just the cutest thing.
Also your analyses of Star Wars are great, but I admit that the doge is what keeps me watching through to the very end.
I actually find both of these things an annoying distraction I barely tolerate. No reflection on you: just adding my 0.0000002 Satoshi.
As I recall reading About the victory-class one star destroyer was mainly made for Planetary bombardment The victory Class 2 was made more for ship-to-ship combat
Oh goodness I remember this! I remember having CHILLS just thinking of that many Vics painted blood-red. Mind-blowing. Thank you for this video; brings back so many good memories.
Great video Eck keep up the great work that you do. Of doing these videos that you do.
i want a meme short where a dude makes a musket and runs around destroying multiple star destroyers
No one:
Me: humming along to the intro
This whole concept of the Empire Fracturing into Warlords made perfect sense. Palpatine had selected his command structure so people would try to advance over the dead bodies of their superiors. This did guard against Rebellion from inside the military. Whoever try to rebel, had a dozen knives just waiting for a sigh of disloyalty pointed at his back.
Yet that also made Operation Cinder nesseasry. There was no way for palpatine to re-form a empire out of the Warlords, if he was not already at the top. Operation Cinder meanwhile selected only the 130% loyal people. Those willing to sterilize their own homeworlds, based on the words of a dead emperor, relayed through droids.
With those he could spend his time in the unknown reason, bide his time, rebuild his forces, wait for the new Republic and the Jedi to become complacent again.
Glad you covered this, I knew there was a crimson star destroyer, and I remembered them being faster like corvette speed. I had read Darksaber so long ago that I forgot.
Da red wunz go fasta!
Ah yes, the sith trooper star destroyer
I have a Crimson Command styled Victory Star Destroyer model I custom painted for the tabletop game Star Wars Armada. I have two victories and having a red one and a grey one helps keep things easy to keep track of.
I think the coolest part about the Crimson Command was that the fleet was built with the premise that a fleet of a lot of small ships was better than a fleet of a few large ships.
Thrawn did use the Victories - from older Old Republic era Victories to updated versions as part of his fleets during his campaign against the Rebels.
Now had Thrawn survived Bilbringi and gained significant territories, I think he'd continue to use the Victory-class and mass produce these with newer upgrades alongside the Imperial-class as part of a new war-time production program in preparation to face the Yuuzhan Vong.
Imagine a star destroyer made wood and gold, now thats is truth imperial ship
Imperial Star Destroyer, The Black Pearl, commanded by Captain Jack Sparrow. He does not like holes being blasted into his ship.
Sounds like the Fairwind gunship from the New Sith Wars circa 1,000 BBY in Legends
@@darthscott616 that ship from a comic book about the army of light, right?
@@RicardoSilva7567 that is correct, it was the ship of Jedi Valenthyne Farfalla
I like Victory-class Star Destroyers. They even look kind of cute.
I'd like to see you talk about the imperial equipment and ships taken and refitted by the Rebels and Galactic Alliance
Two people thought this should have been about 'The Grimace Command'. The purple one.
Could you do a detailed analysis video of the victory class? Also as a off topic suggestion I would love to see a video on the many different lightsaber crystal types in legends. Many of the other videos on CZcams focus specifically on rare/one off ones and I’d love to see a more extensive list like video about the more common types:
VSD is one of my favorite ships, thank you EckhartsLadder for this video!
Long have I waited for this moment....
Bro, long time no see past self
This Video feels sooo weird since you've done Videos including the Crimson Command already lol. It's very informative though, jogged my memory. Keep up the great work man.
Fun fact: the color red is from the blood of their defeated enemies
You should do a video on the Anakin Solo ISD! It's really cool as an evolution of the Imp-2 that doesn't suck.
Would love more about the crimson command
Hey hey learned something new today
Crimson Command rise up!
The Crimson (Dagger) Command was the 10th Oversector Fleet, based in Grand Moff Zsinj's Quelii Oversector. Treuten Terador commanded this fleet and deserted Zsinj's Empire even before it was properly formed to make his own in the closeby Oversector Maldrood. The only other well know Oversector Fleet is the 6th, the Black (Sword) Command playing a big part in the plot the Black Fleet Crisis trilogy. Lesser know is the 1st, the Azure (Hammer) Command of Grand Admiral Osvald Teshik with the Executor-class Whelm as its flagship.
Question : Why do so many lightsaber handles look so uncomfortable to hold?
Because Jedi are reluctant to use them unless necessary, no one should be comfortable taking life.
I just pulled that out my ass, I have no idea
@@rhett5058 I mean it does sound pretty sensible, not sure if it's the right answer but I'd buy it
Nothing can top Mon calamari Star cruisers.
I didn’t know this needed to be explained to me, but i am glad that it was
one suggestion is since you are rewatching rebels do a profile of Kanan and Ezra (either together or separate videos), I would love to know your views on their force powers, fighting styles, and how powerful in the force were they?
You're almost at 800k!! It feels like yesterday that you just started making videos. Keep it up Eck
Hi @Eckharts Ladder hope you are well.
Did you ever read The Black Fleet Crisis by Michael P. Kube-McDowell, some excellent detailed Fleet formations and battles in those books.
I’m sure you know, the Victory Class was created by West End Games based off and repurposed from earlier Ralph McQuarrie art for the Imperial Class.
The Corporate Sector and even the Hutts bought several mothballed surplus Victories when they were phased out by The Empire in favor of the ISD.
Now those victories are extra fast
Palpatine always did love his red.
The crimson command under daala was commanded by colonel cronos and it was initially 76 or 78 victories that was later reenforced by more victories that weren't red.
Hey its been a while since I dont watch a video of yours, its great to be back!
With the ISD being so demanding of resources and manpower to maintain, it would have made more sense to simply design a Mark 3 variant of the Victory for the Empire to use and it would have been a good opportunity to keep the standard design for the most part but in addition, hide the bridge, shield generators and other important assets within the main structure of the ship but oh well. What might have been I guess. The Victory class is truly underrated as all hell.
In my mind the Command join up with pealeons imperial remnant and were all destroyed over time and eventualy met their end in the yuzhang vong war with most being taken out in the early engagements with their final strength being thrown into the defence of ithor (It is never mentioned if the 8-Victories are crimson but that is my head cannon)
Honestly I love anything that conforms to a star destroyer design aesthetic. Harrower, Imperial, Venator, Victory, Bellator, Mandator 3, Allegiance, Gladiator etc etc. That being said designing one without the ability to carry even a token fighter complement for perimeter defense is in my eyes a form of design "HERESY!!". The Allegiance is a beauty but I would never even authorize building them until that one point was corrected. Seeing how competently designed fighters just seem to repeatedly bloody the nose of bigger ships with impunity just cemented the need for a minimal countering force. it'd jump from a 7/10 on the cool scale to a 9/10 if it just had a bit of a hangar on it. now what ship rates a 10/10 I.M.O. is the smaller older Victory class. She had fighters, capital grade cannons , onboard ground assault complement, respectably fast hyperdrive, and a rarely seen ability on imperial warships the ability to land on planetary surfaces. the victory was the one I saw as a true jack of all trades master of none type cruiser. the fact there was a guy who made a fleet of them in red metal tickles the inner fanboy something fierce.
The reason why they were faster than other Victory classes was that they were painted red.
Red vs Black
Crimson Command vs Dark force
100 Victories vs 300Dreadnoughts
I though the only color paint available in the galaxy in that quantity was imperial grey, and that's why it took so long for booster terrik to fully paint the errant venture red
Thrawn : " Put a Pincher there... there... and there ! "
the red army has made it to starwars
Palpatine: Okay, so we need an entire fleet of red Star Destroyers
Lead Engineer: My lord, isn’t that incredibly tacky?
Palpatine: Did I stutter?
If Thrawn took command of the crimson command he’d probably make crimson tie defenders
That's cool
The Victory 1&2 may have outgunned most MC80 models and cost half as much. Capturing a ISD was virtually impossible for the Rebels but capturing, Manning and upgrading a VSD was possible. Also they could’ve bought them from the Corporate Sector.
Zinge truly was power *hungry*
Please do a video on the Carthar species
Nobody:
Asteroids: Let's try spinning! That's a cool trick! 2:23
Crimson Command is quite cool. COuld you cover the Greater Maldrood next pls.?
Wassup how you doing
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>Red Star Destroyers
*Errant Venture intensifies*
When will you do a video on the Night Hammer? The stealth black Executor Class Star Dreadnought that was customized with expanded hangars that held thousands of TIEs and advanced automation and redundant systems that reduced crew requirement to 100,000 instead of the standard 250,000 as well as advanced modular damage control and hyperspace capable escape pods that allowed the entire 100,000 crew to escape the vessels loss to fight again.
Especially since you could make use of the model in Thrawn's Revenge.
Also minor correction, Treuten Teradoc stole command of the Crimson Command from Zsinj when they both went rogue by imprisoning Zsinj's ally Grand Moff Selit and seizing command of the fleet, this started the enmity between them.
Could be your best video yet Bro!
I find myself arguing that the Shockwave was at least an Allegiance sized Star Destroyer. She was a bruiser.
Can you make a breakdown of the GAs rebuild/retrofitted imperial ship models? I'm not sure if they were simply modernised ISDs and VSDs or completly new flights (Anakin Solo as ISD III?)
How would you design a carrier? Would love to have you do a series designing ships from the aspects of the other types of ships.
So damn much red paint, all of it!
wow never knew about this legends, only red star destroyer i knew was the one stolen and used by booster
Something in star wars.
Geetsly: so guys i have this whole lore video
Eckartsladder. There is a pretty large topic that has been ignored and not really explained. Remember 'The disappeared' prts 1 and 2 in the Clone Wars. That mystic cult with the power of ripping ur soul from ur body and teleportation? Can u do a video on that? It is an interesting angle of star wars not ever talked about.
Unexpected
Can you please do eclipse 1 vs eclipse 2
not sure if its just from the games but victorys are more powerfull than ISD by orbital bombardment so they still had there right and place in the imperial fleet
Thing is victory star destroyers most likely will not be removed from fleets for a good while as they are just too good.
Something for February: Ewok Festival of Love in SWG…
I used to call them “red bois”
Ya git! They dun been dumb! Paint da entire thing red! Da gunz shoulda been painted yellow!
@@SephirothRyu red and yellow, what does that remind me???
ussr anthem starts playing
@@asliceofcheese7152 Well, if you want the guns to be more accurate (or more specifically, more "lucky"), then paint them blue instead.