Intel Core i7-13700K vs AMD Ryzen 7 7700X - Which CPU is Best?
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I’ve compared Intel’s Core i7-13700K against AMD’s Ryzen 7 7700X in 24 games at 1080p, 1440p and 4K resolutions as well as productivity workloads to find out which is the best mid-range CPU at the $400-450 price point!
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GPU (Games) - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090: geni.us/c7zl
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RAM - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo: bit.ly/3UKDRGL
SSD - MSI Spatium M480: bit.ly/3NSHqGX
Case - NZXT H700i: bit.ly/2ZISfHk
Cooler - MSI Core Liquid S360 AIO: bit.ly/3wbVyCT
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7700X vs 13700K CPU Comparison Timestamps
0:00 Best Mid-Range CPU?
0:11 CPU Spec Differences
0:36 Price Differences
0:52 Why Not 13700K vs 7900X?
1:17 Test PC Specs
1:43 Cinebench R23
2:06 Power Draw
2:16 Performance Per Watt (Efficiency)
2:25 Temperatures
2:37 Clock Speeds
3:02 Blender Open Data
3:20 V-Ray & Corona Renderer
3:32 Linux Kernel & LLVM Compilation
3:58 Handbrake Video Encode
4:11 Adobe Premiere
4:27 DaVinci Resolve
4:37 Adobe Photoshop
4:53 Microsoft Office
5:06 7-Zip Compression & Decompression
5:21 Encryption & Decryption
5:29 GeekBench
5:52 13700K vs 7700X - All Application Differences
6:18 Cost Per Cinebench Point (Best Productivity Value)
6:45 Cost Per Adobe Premiere Points
7:02 24 Games at 1080p, 1440p & 4K
7:12 Red Dead Redemption 2
7:33 Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
7:54 Metro Exodus Enhanced
8:12 Halo Infinite
8:32 Forza Horizon 5
8:49 Total War: WARHAMMER III
9:02 CS:GO
9:10 Fortnite
9:23 Far Cry 6
9:38 Microsoft Flight Simulator
9:54 14 More Games Compared!
10:24 13700K vs 7700X (1080p)
10:53 13700K vs 7700X (1440p)
11:12 13700K vs 7700X (4K)
11:37 24 Game Average
11:56 Cost Per Frame (Best Gaming Value)
12:26 Conclusion - 7700X or 13700K?
13:01 Future Upgrade Options
13:40 Cheaper CPU Options
13:56 Higher End CPU Options
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Very broad and methodical testing. Gives a very solid overview. Thank you!
I'm happy amd and intel is exchanging their champion seat more frequently now each generation. Their competition benefits us.
which competition ? Intel is crushing amd. intel 60% more performance for 20usd more, but intel less 100usd in motherboard and 100usd less in ddr memory so with intel you get lots more for much less money... RIP AMD.... amd has left the chat.....
@@itaiperes9635 I want to reply properly, but noticed a fanboy is barking loudly. Oh well, have a nice day.
@@itaiperes9635 Yes, I'm also happy that Intel finally fought back. I was afraid they'd never be able to compete in performance again. Intel is just too expensive to be option right now, let's hope they'll price their non-k SKUs my competitively.
@@lenyekpenyek I agree. Competition helps us consumers reap benefits. I'm not partial to either brand, I went Intel for 7th, 8th, and 9th gen on desktops because that was what I could afford and what was available. The main reason I went for Ryzen 7000 was because not i9-13900K CPUs were in stock at Micro Center but the Ryzen 9 7950X was. Both are great CPUs though imo.
@@itaiperes9635 lol
The most profitable sector is HPC cpus and there EPYC completely VAPORIZES whatever Intel has.
What I've noticed it that Intel's 12th Gen onwards seems to have a lower idle wattage than AMD yet AMD uses significantly less watts than Intel during the actual running of any app or game. And I'm glade that AMD has encouraged software Co's to make their apps/games more compatible. Its also nice to see you include productivity workload results.
i was litterally looking for this thank you. goated channel
As always, splendid work. Thanks for the comparison.
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for your excellent video once again, Jarrod.
This is the one I've been waiting for!
I would strongly recommend that you add games such as: Civilization 6, hearts of iron 4, cities skyline, EU4, Stellaris, etc. These strategy games are often not too heavy on the gpu but they do often hit the cpu quite hard. In general it would be nice to see strategy games represented in the games comparison. edit: added 2 more games to the example.
ikr! nobody tests cpu or gpu on 4x/grand strategy games. i want to know which cpu/gpu my Rimworld (with 100s of mods) Crusader Kings, Galactic Civ etc would do better on.
@@ChinchillaBONK Yeah, I have found that most reviewers seem too forget that there are more game categorys other that FPS, Racing and Open world games. It's a bit sad that strategy games are so under represented since they can sometimes push mainly CPUs to their limit.
True, I play alot of rts
As a Hearts of Iron IV player, I 100% agree with this comment.
Yes please! My main game is eu4 and it is a very single-core game so that is the most important to me
it feels unreal seeing you at 550k subrscribers! i got the opportunity to ask you on twitter on what laptop should i get when you're at 15k subs! thank you a lot jarrod! 1m subs is definitely coming soon!
This is my second comment on your channel and thank you for all resolutions and games. I picked up the 13700k and now feel better about my purchase even if all I do is game the possibility of productivity is there with the 13700k.
Useful to see your comment. I do video editing am I'm very torn! Currently using an Intel i5 11400 which is perfect. The issue being my GPU is a 1650 super and I can't swap it out because of the low watt PSU 360 watt (dell!)
I do well but it's sluggish
Suggestion: add a graph comparing the 1% lows between the CPUs (at any resolution) for all the 24 games just like you did with averages, I would really love to see that visualized!
The problem is at least two of the game tests don't measure 1% lows and due to them both swapping between different scenes running tools over the top to measure it wouldn't work. This would mean 25 games for average, and 23 games for 1% low, which wouldn't be comparable between the two
@Husha563 Source for your claim, please.
@Husha563 I mean they just asked if they could include them to get a better idea between the two chips??? Where did that animosity even come from lol
@Husha563 Pot calling kettle black smh
where is Husha563
thanks ! your tests are very helpful since i use handbrake and not everyone is including it fr testing.
I would have loved if you would include testing the 7700 or 7700X in Eco mode to kinda simulate the 7700, since the 7700 non X isnt much slower but comsumes less power, i would have loved to see the efficiency results.
but anyways, thanks for the testing, i also like your clear Graphs. its very easy readable.
also if you would have included the results from the 13600 and 7600 even if you dont talk about them would be cool for comparison.
I just opened both your Videos to Compare the 13600k to the 7700X.
Hi Jarrod. Can you please add streaming test also . like streaming some game to youtube or twitch through obs with chrome and some basic apps running in background? For me this the most important test as this will help better to get something or not
I wasn't expecting this, Thought you would drop an RTX4080 video
Interesting video 7700x today is now around $290 compared to 13700k at $370..
ryzen 7 + rtx 4070 , is this good for streaming + gaming
Nice comparison. Thanks 😘
I like how you get right to the point
Would you consider doing an update of your video from 2 years ago where you compared Intel and AMD's iGPU performance with their latest mobile chipsets? Thanks.
Literally I really wanted this video
Great and thorough comparison. Even I share the opinion that it would be worth looking at a 13700 vs 7900 comparison, because in this case, 13700 has a 50% higher thread count than 7700, even though all the threads are not of the same strength.
Now you can get 7700 for 250
Rip intel
I jumped on a 7700X last week. Microcenter is running a deal where you get a free kit of Gskill X5 CL30 DDR5-6000 and $50 off a motherboard with the purchase of a 7700x (which I also had an additional $25 off coupon for). All-in it was $515 after taxes. Before this deal I was considering a 13700k, but this deal combined with the AM5 platform longevity swayed me. Overall I'm very happy with it. I had to get a different cooler for it because the Wraith Prism I was using on it was constantly ramping up and down with the temperature spikes, which got annoying.
Microcenter? It is not an scam?i mainly speak spanish, but i am planning to go USA next month, where is microcente ubicate or how many days they delay in deliviring the cpu, motheboard and ddr5 combo?
Great video man thank you so much!
Glad you liked it!
13th gen and ryzen 7000H series gonna be great wonder what next gen laptop gonna leap into
Good video Jarrod, as usual) It is unbelievable, how big the CPU power became in the last 3-4 years... Actually, the current mainstream i5 or Ryzen 5 beats their 4 years older brother almost 3 times regarding multicore workload. However, do we really need such a big CPU performance? I use my 6 core 6 thread i5-8500 for almost 4 years now, and it just works very well for me, including heavy video editing work, and I don't need to upgrade it in the near and far future... Apart from video editing, my CPU utilization is not higher than 10-15% (40-50% during gaming). What I wanted to say is that nowadays the modern CPUs are just "overkill" for the majority of PC users, except of course people working with heavy CPU-intensive work...
There was so much stagnation prior to AMD becoming a competitive choice. It's great! I love seeing these massive uplifts in performance. Neither side can sit comfortably on top and that means they both need to push harder to make better products
Lots of people are successful at creating needs in people . 😊
@@zoundsic gold words...
I was asking myself the same thing. But maybe look at it this way. We might not need it but once there are CPU's that can do things that CPU's can't do now, they will be able to built cool stuff on these CPU's.
Like i love VR. But we need tons of CPU innovation before we can have a VR headset that does anything like a PC can do now. VR standalone is struggling because it has to be a light headset, little room for cooling, we want it to run on battery etc. Imagine we can have a VR headset on our face that has the power of what an i7-13700k has. For that to be possible it needs to use way less power for the same performance.
Size in general. I mean wouldn't it be awesome if we had a 'desktop' that was the size of a smartphone? Obviously if we can make a smartphone with the power of a PC with a i7-13700k then we would be able to make a bigger item even more powerful. Until we really dont need more power. But that's a decade or 2 away at the very least.
@@GoodGamingMemories Overkill?! 13700K and 7700X struggles to give 60FPS in the new Hogwarts Legacy game! And Ray tracing makes CPU crumble! -_-
i was thinking of pairing the amd ryzen 7 7700x with the msi rtx 4070 gaming x trio what you think?
Given the way iGPU has a chance to mess around your games I say not having one could improve stability and compatibility toward the future when they stop updating them.
Add extra performance but later on in the future might bring compatibility issues as well.
hello there.
At 1080p on page "Cost per frame" you had a difference between Intel and AMD 20%, although AMD's common increase of performance in the games was 2,5%. Even If add a price difference, about 10%(with FK version of Intel), don't get 20%
I decided to finally upgrade build a new PC this Fall, a Christmas present to myself. I'm not going for a 4xxx GPU or waiting for RDNA3, but chose a 6800X instead. That doesn't mean I can't still try to pick up a 7900XTXTXTX sometime down the road, but given pricing trends, I'm completely done with buying the latest GPUs. The machine I'm "demoting" is a 3900X / 2080Ti, and I need both the CPU and GPU to be significantly faster to justify the move. Given the AM4 growing pains I suffered, and the likelihood that this new build will serve my needs for longer than AM5 is current (making drop-in CPU upgrade a moot point), I went with the 13700K.
Crazy because I got the Ryzen 7700x, 32gb of 6000hz ram, and MSI B650 Pro WiFi motherboard for $400 in a bundle months ago -- the same price that you posted the Ryzen CPU alone in the video. With that bundle deal, the value of the 7700x is TREMENDOUS
how is the performance of that combo for productivity? i want to build the same combo mostly for editing photos and videos
You should upload a review of gigabytes A5 K1, good price 👍
Can't wait for CES, Ryzen 7000m, Intel 13000, new GPUs. It's going to be wild!
Just hope that RTX 4050 mobile has atleast 6gb vram or if Nvidia really is that greedy 5gb cuz 4gb vram ain't gonna cut it like that horrid 3050/3050 Ti. UPDATE: THEY DID IT 4050 will have 6gb vram but weirdly they also refreshed the 3050 with a 6gb variant soon and the performance improvement from 3050 to 4050 is around 30% but the most notable here is RTX 4060 mobile the performance jump is so high that its higher than 3070 mobile AND it has 8gb vram so that's that
@@Eleganttf2 don't think they'll introduce an RTX 4050. But only time will tell.
7000m is gonna be 9000 series for some reason
@@CalanReichel probably!
And samsung 8k horizontally ultrawide monitor!
for simulations like cities skylines, is it counted as gaming or productivity bc it uses a bunch of ram
I liked the comparison, you did a good job making things as fair as possible, only thing i would say that's in intels favour is they can go much faster than 6000 on ram speed. AMD caps around the 6000 used from what has been said by reviewers, so with faster ram we could see Intel coming closer or beating(at a largely significant increase in price though)
Both seem to be competitive, thanks for testing Jarrod.
Is there a poll of how many people actually do drop in upgrades? Would be interesting to know from a general gamers vs people watching this...
Good job! Thank you
Your motherboard may be operating the 13700K at a higher default voltage than is strictly necessary for stability, and as such, blasts far more power through the cpu than is necessary, resulting in higher temps and worse efficiency. I had this issue with the 13900K… ASUS’ default voltage profile is ridiculously high. After some tweaking, I cut power consumption from 300+W in cinebench to ‘only’ 260 and reduced temps from 100C to 80C. A significant reduction with ZERO performance loss. In fact, the CPU performs better with the tuned voltage…. And I also tuned to it to boost to 6.0 GHz under very lightly threaded situations, and maintained the factory all-core clock. I know you have to test with factory defaults, but I suggest to take a look at voltage(s) because the default stock voltage can be way higher than necessary for Raptor Lake.
I hope you'll see this comment. Can you run 13th gen i7 chip with ddr4 3600mhz memory on some future video?
The availability of the ddr5 motherboard for intel in my country is at the same price as the new am5 mobo and ryzen 7 is a bit cheaper here that's why I would like to know if buying intel 13th gen with a mobo that supports ddr4 would also be a great option compared to ryzen 7 7700x. I'll be rendering on them via vray+skp and lumion which is the main use but would play AAA games as well like GoW, HD, AC, etc.
Great video mate!
currently trying to chose in between 7700X or 7600X
If possible, Could you please do this same vs video between these two ?
Gaming only: 7600x
Need to do some work too: 7700x
Hi. Wich one is better for streaming and playing?
I am sold, Going with Ryzan 7 7700x for my new build Ty fer video
wow, so to learn things like TensorFlow on a laptop which CPU with graphics would be the way to go? 🧐 thank you for the great info.
For Machine learning ?
Great video!!!
Will the NZXT kraken x53 cpu cooler be enough to keep the ryzen 7 7700x cool? I hope so.. I just bought it!?
You should try compare game Mount & Blade bannerlord 2 in the next test let see how it perform
Honestly, thinking long term, people who bought into the Ryzen platform at any point so far have little to regret since at the end of AM4 they got a sweet bonus; the 5800x3d. Intel will never do that, and they won't keep a platform around for over 2 years. So from a longevity per dollar standpoint, the Ryzen platform is a great pick up today, and down the line, since you'll always be just a hot swap away from new performance. Ddr5 isn't that expensive. 100$ for a good kit of ddr5-5400-cl36 is good value considering that to reach that level of performance using DDR4 you will need at least ddr4 -4000 cl16 which costs more than 100$.
Splendid video ...
Please help ... Should i buy the dell G15 special edition ryzen 5800 3060 (2021edition) now??
Or should i go for other model like hp omen 21 edition of same spec or helios preditor 300 of i5 12th gen... Please help
Just anecdotal, but I have experience using both brands of laptops, and I've had to have warrantee work done on all three of my HPs, and never had a claim on my Dells. HP's warrantee department was fantastic, they fixed the problems and shipped them back and I never paid a dime, but I did have to have them fixed. I can't tell you what to do, but it's a data point for you.
I suggest you use the intel core i7 13700k if you're a game developer like me. It's very good with multi-tasking.
Are u gonna review the newest omen laptop with 6000 series ?
I agree, in general, I'd go with i7 13700k. Big fan of your very thorough reviews, keep them up! I always like to look at your reviews before I make a purchase. Would love to see review of Gigabyte g5 KD and KC models as I believe they are great value options.
Here are reasons not to go Intel:
1) to overclock you need a z series board which is not cheaper than comparable and boards (you can OC on Ryzen b650)
2) to get the same performance as you saw in the video you either need very fast ddr4 4000+ or you need at least ddr5 5400 which both are around the same price at 100$
3) Intel will not offer you any more upgrades. You can wait 3 years and slot a new Ryzen CPU without a problem.
Don't see why go Intel unless you are pinching penises and being cheap. If that's the case get a core i3 not a 450$ CPU.
@@MakeSh00t fun fact, the 13700k is better than most threadrippers, nearly tying with the threadripper 3960x
The AMD one now costs 430€, should i buy it?
Yo Jarrod, when u do an intel razer lake benchmark, u could maybe benchmark it with ddr4 too so that people can see the performance drop between using ddr4 and ddr5
raptor lake*
@@nonstandarduser_ auto correct
Could you please compare cooling solutions for the 13700k and 7700x and 7900x. Can we use 240mm AIO for cooling either of these without impacting the performance?
yes all 3 model will be fine， 13700k and 7700x uou can air cool
Schenker Vision 16 Pro please, just released. Seems good but has just 180W and gets freaking hot already.
There is an ongoing issue with gigabyte aero 5 aerous 15 laptops with bad bios causing battery drain even while charging.. can you please look into it?
Good job bro 😉
its crazy how fast technology is advancing..or is it? I bet processors with similar specs could have easily come out five years ago but then the gap would be huge.. Its all about market control giving the masses more and more things to consume when in most cases they dont even need them. I will be sticking with my trusty i5 11400 that handles everything i throw at it be it work or games..
I read a comment some time back saying that Intel was supposedly holding chips that were meant to be released in 2030, but are now close to having to sell them thanks to competition
I've read we're reaching the point of diminishing returns with silicon. maybe graphene or crystal cpus in the future?? or cpus running on rat brains
@@icyycold1094 yeah, if intel actually tried to innovate and switched to 10nm/7nm early, they would have had a much better chance to fair against amd, and maybe even beat then. We could have gotten the 13900k like 5 years ago!
Would be nice to see power draw of these cpus and of entire systems while doing light tasks or idling.
AMD uses MASSIVE more power at idle ,, but the AMD fanboys ALWAYS want to pretend their PC's are running at 100% load 100% of the time. The REAL life power draw is being investigated and things in REAL life are going to be a MASSIVE shock for the one eyed AMD girlies
Does anyone care about power draw when idle or doing light stuff?
Let's say 13700k is 40 watts lower at idle, compared to 7700x. So 7700x costs maybe 2 dollars per month more on the electric bill? Who cares?
@@DerekDavis213 It is CRAZZED AMD shills that keep RANTING on about Intel uses more power ,, indeed they do at PEAK performance which in reality is NOT at all often. I just enjoy seeing the TRUE facts of "real world" power consumption being investigated in order to make them realize how daft they are.
@@tilapiadave3234 The *REASON* that people care about peak power consumption, is because that determines how big and expensive the cpu cooler has to be, and maybe how noisy the cpu cooler is.
Peak power matters. Nobody gives a tish about idle power!
In USA, many people spend $15 every day for coffee and gasoline to drive to work.
$2 per MONTH on the electric bill is nothing. For real.
@@DerekDavis213 Unfortunately, the US is not the entire world.
I need some help please! New pc gamer/ and don't have many tested games on rig. Ryzen 7 7700x stock cooler, rx 7900xt 16gb ram. Running BG3 and Control I get 100% gpu use but my CPU utilization is 2% 1.2V @ 95c. My frequency seems to fluctuate but on average it says 3.6 ghz but task manager says different @ 5.3ghz.I'm confused as to why my utilization is 2% but so hot. I get conflicting info about that temperature. Some say it's the new normal, but frequency drops after 85c. It's pegged at 95c the whole time I'm gaming. No performance problems on BG3, but Control crashes frequently anywhere from 5 minutes of gaming to hours. Not sure if it's just that game or if it's something else. Is it good for utilization to be so low but running so hot? Do I need to change anything? How do I know if those metrics are correct and if I'm bottlenecked? I'm just using adrenaline overlay for metrics. Please help!
Since the 13700k can handle faster ram than the 7700x, i wonder how much performance would increase with 6400mhz cl32 or higher.
My larents bought me ideapad gaming 3 15ach6 with ryzen 7 5800h and rtx 3050. I really happy at first, but then i found out that the ssd slot is only pcie 3x2 even though the ssd itself is 3x4. Then its battery is really bad for college. Its performance also quite dissappointing, then i noticed that this model doesnt reviewed on your channel. Is it really worth to keep, or do i have to sell it and buy some other laptop? Im really confused since even the price is competitive for the newer model. I need it for light video editing and gaming. Pls help
Can you compare 13600k vs 7600x please?
disclaimer: there's an amd fanboy on the loose in the comments section, proceed with caution and protect your braincells
Agreed 👍
I might use AMD now, but I want to see competition like this in the CPU space, because we as consumers get better products.
@@cameronbosch1213 yes competition is good but i just can't stand amd fans who gatekeep
No matter what you say currently for laptops ryZen is best 🔥
In terms of performance, the ryzen 7 7700x compares to the i5 13600k, that’s why I think that the price of this CPU should be 289$ at most, if you take into consideration the mobo prices too… it’s not a bad product, but they are not in the same class and that should be reflected with price correction that I think will happen pretty soon in my opinion…
hello i want to ask about ryzen 7 7700x is compatible with rtx 3060 ti???
Building my first PC and trying to decide if i should go intel and grab the i7 and a 3060ti (till better ones become reasonably priced again) or the 7700x and a 6700xt. I'd mainly be using it for gaming but also spend a lot of time in DAW's and use VST's for sound production.. This is where I am having a hard time deciding.. The Intel and 3060ti build will cost me at least 150-250 more, but am I better going that route if I plan on doing some music production as well as gaming? Or even mixing it up and going i7, and the 6700xt for now.
@@Grok-AI I'm in Canada sadly so cant order from there! Prices here suck too especially with out dollar!
It would be great to understand how photo editing should be compared to your results - would performance be more akin to the Productivity or to the Gaming results seen here?
Im still waiting for you to compare Lenovo Legion 7i/i9 vs Lenovo Legion 7 all AMD highest specs especially because the price difference between both laptops really alot
The 7700x is on sale in the US for $349. 7000 series discounts have started
In reality, AMD 5000 and Alder Lake are still dominating the sales. There isn’t much need to upgrade or move to DDR5. Intel crushes AMD in most CPU tasks this gen. But then again, this is the end of the road for this platform for Intel and then they will likely move to a more expensive platform where DDR5 is required. I hope the price on this platform drops. But for gamers, the 5800X3D is still a better value than anything from the new platform, or even the 13600 series from Intel
@citizen_a there were several videos which showed that there was a flaw in HU’s test methodology, in comparison with their test methodology. But it is inflation and a recession. More budget conscious consumers won’t even be looking at this tier. They’ll likely be looking at R5 or i5 for Intel. If you can spring for the DDR5, fine. If not, still a lot of value to be had by looking at the previous gen
5800X3D ,, THE most over-rated cpu of ALL time
I’m running an I7 6700k right now and looking at finally upgrading my entire computer. I’m torn between 13700k and a 7000 series. I like the performance of the Intel but it’s an end of life product. The 7000 is supposedly supported to 2025. Seeing as I upgrade about every 6-8 years and how fast technology is progressing. I dont know if I should just stay with 7000 and have option to upgrade to their latest and last cpu before they move on to AM6. Since I just need to swap out CPUs. Just have no clue right now…lol
my brother, same here holding my extra juicy 6700k and no clue what to do.... just hunting the i7-13700k right now (465,50€ on spanish web) and
MSI PRO Z690-A for 189.90€, I can hold my ddr 4 but ddr5 is not expensive at all..... should I go or no?
If you went 13th gen now and don't plan on upgrading for a good few years, then that'd be a good option for you. Go for the previous gen mobo as the newer gen one isn't worth it and stick to ddr4. Means you'd have more money for a higher spec graphics card (if you're working with a specific budget)
I personally went AMD because I see it as a future investment as I have the potential to do incremental upgrades with my AM5 mobo without needing all new hardware. Currently running a 7900x with 32gb ddr5 ram and no graphics card. Waiting on the newer stuff before I decide between AMD/nVidia and new gen vs older gen. Leaning towards full AMD system currently though
AMD if you want longevity and cost savings over time. Intel is a dead end ddr4 platform and you'll have to buy all new stuff if you want to upgrade.
Just cos AMD mobo will be supported longer 99.99999% of all these guys will never stay on a 3 yr old mobo later when new CPU's come out, they'll want a new mobo with all the new technological advancements. If you plan on keeping your new rig for 5 years (which is easily good common sense cos they last even longer than that) then just go intel, or if you want to pay out the ass for ddr5 go amd.
@@miked6367lol, people are spending crazy money on high end motherboards now, like Maximus and Dark Hero and crosshair….trust me, they’re keeping em if they could.
Just build my new pc with the i7 13700K .😊
Bro which motherboard did you use
7700x sells for $324 on Newegg, if you buy it with a $200 B650 motherboard.
Hey Jarrod, why did you change out the GPU for the content creation workloads?
I tested all the AMD CPUs with the 3090 Ti before the 4090 came so rather than redo all that work I just did the Intel stuff with the 3090 Ti too and kept the 4090 for games that were done later
@@JarrodsTech Fair enough. I just found it weird, but your explanation of why makes sense.
Would you be able to/did you already re-check the results for the 13700K in Red Dead Redemption 2? Just doesn't make sense to me that it has almost the same frame rate at every resolution, only 8 FPS difference between 1080p and 4K
The 13900K behaved the same thing, just ~10 FPS or so higher. See my 13900K vs 7950X video, AMD just seems to do better in that test for whatever reason.
@@JarrodsTech Ahh gotcha. I was comparing your results to HUB's recent 13600K vs 7600X video. But now I realize they tested in Vulkan and you're in DX12 so maybe that's causing the big difference. Cheers and excellent work though!
Can u review also the m15 r7 ryzen 9 alienware pleasee
Clearly AMD is better now in gaming, is more energy efficient, and if you activate the PBO curve you can get 35°C less and also you can upgrade later... no brain decision. I got rid of a 12900k because of temperatures out of control in a 360mm corsair LCD AIO, the 13700k has the exact CPU tech and core count. I have a 7700x, curve optimizer in -30 and 5.5 ghz in all corres for ever... is amazing
Amd fanboy lol
@@martin.k240 my man wrote a whole lot essay on why he prefers amd and you say he's a fanboy 🤡
@@martin.k240 I don't care about this big corporations more than they care about me... I tried the 12900k for a year and it just didn't make sense to me, the 7700x does... and feels great
@@Games_and_Tech yes you are a fan boy :) and a big one, the 12900K compete with the AMD5900x not the 7700X, you should try the 13900k but you face is very dip in AMD ass.....
@@swapnilgohil7280 that other guy is lying out of his ass or is the biggest idiot ever. Imagine swapping out a 12900k (which you could run with ddr4 memory) for an am5 system, requiring a cpu change (clearly) but also a new mobo and ddr5 memory. I'm also calling bullshit on the -30 on all cores. That system is likely unstable as shit
i7 13700k + z690 mobo
just update the bios
all goods since am5 mobo are crazy expensive
I just found 2 pre-builds with both of these processors for the some price. I do mostly gaming with some light video and photo editing. Which one would you guys go for? Thanx
Are they the micro center pre builds?
@@MigoDevin no direct from corsair
The 13700K is more like a 7900x competitor with both having the same thread count.
13700k uses about 70 watts more power under load, compared to 7900x.
That means a bigger more expensive cooler for the 13700k.
Intel Raptor Lake uses too much wattage, those chips are not really competitors to the excellent Ryzen 7000 series.
So more cores will be a new trend? As geekbench and productivity tasks heavily rely on it😁
Not really. Most users don't use a lot of these tasks that scale well with more cores. Benchmarks don't represent real world use. Unless you have specific needs that one cpu does better then just get the cheaper one as they are basically equivalent.
@@ska4dragons Yeah true. For the workloads that require it (Photoshop, 3D Rendering, Compilation, Compute), but for gaming AMD is the better option. It does have higher FPS in games, and better efficiency, but again Intel has the advantage of higher performance in multi-threaded workloads.
@@white-bunny if you have needs that are most important to you then use that to choose your cpu. There are a lot of pros to either one. It depends on what matters to you.
@@ska4dragons I fully agree. However, sales will show. These benchamarks are powerful marketing tools 😢
If you have a local microcenter, you can get the 13700k for $380 which seems crazy. I actually bought mine launch week for $400. I think they are offering free ddr5 kits for the amd chips too.
Yup, Got the 7700x, 32gig DDR5 6000 CL30(for free) and $50 off the MSI Tomahawk B650 motherboard. $630 for CPU, memory and motherboard with several years of support!! Thanks Microcenter
What kind of DDR5 kit did you get?
@@Trainmaster909 Hey there
The promo kit was Gskill Flare 2x16gb
I got the 12700K and Z690 combo and paired it with my 32gb ddr4 ram for $430 which is $200 less with almost similar performance to 7700X. I also have a good upgrade path to 13th gen and when am5 boards become cheap in 2-3 years I can then upgrade to amd if amd is good then else continue with intel.
Pro tip: Always buy the best performance per dollar item without caring about future specially when it’s uncertain. Technology matures fast and products become cheap so upgrade in future when required
@@pinakmiku4999 Well, Intel is dead with this socket and AMD has many years with several chips to come as we just experienced with AM4. AM4 was supported for many years so its really the best value looking forward. There is no guarantee that board prices will come down with everything going up. Thanks, but I weigh all options and I don't upgrade full systems every few years.
I'm confused about the math here. You showed a 2.51% average difference at 1080p, but then the average framerates at 1080p were 268 vs 298 which is over 10%. Shouldn't these be the same?
It’s confusing but he’s basically comparing the 1080p 1v1, like for example if ryzen gets 10% more fps, but intel gets 8% more fps in another game, then the difference is only 2%, I think that’s how he calculates the difference in percentage fps.
@@zoid99dollars shouldn't that be the same thing, just with extra steps? I guess if I really want to know I'll have to do the math myself when I have time... depends how bored I get lol
SUM of percentage framerate diffs in games (2,51%) != percentage DIFF of sum of framerates (> 10%)
Ordered Ryzen 7 7700x and MSI 650P. Will be delivered to me today. Upgrading from i7 6700.
which cooler should i use to cool my i7 13700k ? it goes like 100 degree
As a full HD Gamer i took the 7700x for my new PC. Maybe a bit slower now but i can upgrade it in some years with a Ryzen 9900x3d or so :D
So you admit you are incapable of changing a motherboard ,,, my 9 year old son can do that for you :)
Could you look at value again now that pricing has really changed and companies are getting more aggressive? I picked up a 7700x, 32 DDR5 6000 ram, and Asrock X670E PG Lightning combo from Newegg for $500 after discounts, and they threw in a free copy of Star Wars Jedi: Survivor. I had to take a double take before hitting add-to-cart, but the deal was just too good to let go. I've got other top-end systems from both Intel and AMD, but I really wanted to build something that focused on efficiency first, then solid content creation and gaming performance. I plan to bundle it with an RTX 4070 Ti and call it a day. I'm moving back to AMD from Intel simply because of the power draw and the difficulty trying to keep the 12900 or 13900 class processors at reasonable temps.
Anyway, I'd be curious to see how they stack up today on value.
Cheers
Rick
Just ordered this.. 3000Euro.. hope its a good mix..
Phanteks Eclipse G360A Mid Tower (black)
ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti OC
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
Corsair H100x ELITE cooler RGB (black)
Kingston FURY Beast RGB DDR5 5600MHz 32GB
Kingston M.2 NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD 2TB
ASUS PRIME X670-P WIFI motherbord
Corsair RMe Series RM750e PSU
For streaming or atleast screen recording your gameplay I think more cores of Intel will help 🤷🏻 (like the efficiency cores do streaming in parallel to Main Cores running the games). Just a guess, can anyone tell me if it's correct ? And also in this usecase the TDP could be justified a little bit and also an insurance of your PC becoming a workstation at later stages of life 😂.
Ddr4 fress pc build
Ryzen 9 5900x or i5 13600k. Price are same in our area.
Want to buy for 4k and 6k video editing
I was always wondering why would anyone care about the performance per watt? I don't think anyone will want to say from the utility bill
there are a lot of people still playing old games, most of them are cpu bound games. so maybe include them also.
Which is best for long term Intel vs amd
Everything comes down to Platform Longevity(AMD) vs Core Counts(Intel). So we users have some calculations to do. Great gaming CPU-s but for more than gaming, the 13700K is another league. I would probably go for 7700X thinking of an upgrade similar of 1700X to 5800X3D in 5 years.
I keep seeing "upgradability" but I personally don't see myself going 3600 -> 7700x -> Better AM5. I think it's much more likely I'll go to AM6 generation stuff next upgrade. So I think it's largely not useful information.
@@skylershuman7705 thats exactly what im gonna do lmao, im jumping from 3600 to 7700 non x
If intel’s was power throttled to match amd it would probably be a wash in performance plus programs that don’t like E cores is an issue to some. BUT my Co just gave me a new Intel 10 core (2+8E cores) on windows 10 and it work’s nicely. I monitor all the cores with gkrellm (for windows) and all the cores seem to be utilized even in W10.
I got my I7 13700k for $380 at MicroCenter. So I'm happy with that.
Can you make review video for Alienware m15 r7 2022
Great work as always. Maybe for ram, you should go for 5200 and 6000 for amd and 5600 and 6400 for intel and 3200cl14 for ddr4 for intel and 5000-series.
Going DDR4 has a bigger effect on 13th gen CPUs and sometimes it's pretty big. I could see doing that if you're trying to do a budget build but buying a 13700K and then throttling it sounds like a waste of money.
@@johndoh5182 you are right, but for an i5 or r5, its good to see the minimum-budget -performance! maybe even get a msi pro b660m-a, b550m-ds3h (which i have) and a b650m-ds3h (for 160$ on newegg).
150W difference holy cow!
It`s like RX 580 running furmark in background lol
pls compare 17 13700k and ryzen 7900x
Multi Core Power or Performance Per Watts ?