Interesting to see what we will be getting eventually here in the UK. I use AutoPilot right now on the motorways but its not very good in construction zones where I usually have to take over. I guess in a few years most of the bugs will have been sorted. Great video's keep them coming !
Yesterday I was driving to a restaurant using FSD beta 11.4.4 on a 4-lane divided highway and experienced a similar sudden lane diversion into a left-turn lane for no apparent reason. It seemed that the lane-change warning sounded since my passenger was also startled. I took over immediately to return to the correct driving lane. To my recollection, that was the first time FSD exhibited such dangerous misbehavior! That is a problem that Tesla need to correct soon! I did also submit a voice comment.
Very interesting stuff. Also in Australia where this won’t be appearing for many years yet. I never bought FSD in 2019 when I bought my Model 3 because I expected it to be 10 years away and I suspect that 2029 is still about right. What I would point out though is that ACC hasn’t improved at all in my view. Slow acceleration, phantom braking and even speed limit change recognition are much the same as 4 years ago.
It's the nature of AI to advance logarithmically rather than arithmetically. I am stunned by the changes that are present with each software update, and I have a feeling that we are reaching the point where the car's artificial intelligence will be able to handle any situation it encounters. Of course it's not there yet but I doubt that it will be as far out as 2029. I would say this year or the next - simply based on my own experience of all of the behaviour changes with each successive software update. It's like someone driving a car has grown up from being a young teenager to being a 25 or 30 year old. There are of course, still weaknesses at this point, but AI is an incredible force when you take into account all of the data Tesla receives from millions of miles of FSD driving
@@model3man I'd compare it more to FSD being like driving with a drunk or now just someone who's had only a couple....either way i wouldn't feel very safe
@@lenimbery7038 LOL Interesting analogy :). It definitely takes some getting used to but maybe FSD has just had one drink :). It definitely drives a lot safer than many of the people living here in Vancouver that’s for sure :)
In Oregon, that behavior with respect to pedestrians in a crossing (~2:00) would not be legal. Oregon motor vehicle law requires an extra lane-width of clearance (except on a divided road).
Therein lies the reason why FSD is being rolled out slowly. Tesla software teams have to take into account local laws, so I'm sure that FSD behaviour in Oregon would be to wait till pedestrians are completely out of the crossing area. I don't KNOW that for a fact, but I suspect that geo-fencing considerations (different road rules in different areas) would be something programmed into the AI. Anyone from Oregon who can confirm that for us?
Does Tesla put out any stats on how often drivers report issues, and how that is trending over time? (Push button/grab video segment/upload for analysis.) The trend could be how many snaps per unit of distance, or unit of driving time.
I don't think it's good that FSD doesn't wait until pedestrians are completely off the crossing because I think legally vehicles are supposed to wait until the crossing is completely clear. At least it's that way in California. Also, in California vehicles have to stay 3 feet away from cyclists. So I'd hope FSD will obey State laws, especially when you go on trip outside of your home State. But some people are still having issue with FSD not slowing for speed bumps, so I'd keep testing that in your area. FSD also sometimes doesn't use the blinkers during a merge, which it should be doing. I have FSD beta v11.4.4 and believe me it's still not the magic number.
It seems that there is a slight chance that FSD beta will come to Europe start of 2024, I will buy FSD when it does 17:14 It seems to be very human to wait to the very last moment, I am sure the car in front of you do not have FSD
Thanks for the review, just hoping we see FSD Beta making it to Australia, think it might be a few years yet being a RHD country.
Interesting to see what we will be getting eventually here in the UK. I use AutoPilot right now on the motorways but its not very good in construction zones where I usually have to take over. I guess in a few years most of the bugs will have been sorted. Great video's keep them coming !
Thanks Steven. Yes - construction zones are the nemesis of FSD at the moment.
Yesterday I was driving to a restaurant using FSD beta 11.4.4 on a 4-lane divided highway and experienced a similar sudden lane diversion into a left-turn lane for no apparent reason. It seemed that the lane-change warning sounded since my passenger was also startled. I took over immediately to return to the correct driving lane. To my recollection, that was the first time FSD exhibited such dangerous misbehavior! That is a problem that Tesla need to correct soon! I did also submit a voice comment.
Very interesting stuff. Also in Australia where this won’t be appearing for many years yet. I never bought FSD in 2019 when I bought my Model 3 because I expected it to be 10 years away and I suspect that 2029 is still about right.
What I would point out though is that ACC hasn’t improved at all in my view. Slow acceleration, phantom braking and even speed limit change recognition are much the same as 4 years ago.
It's the nature of AI to advance logarithmically rather than arithmetically. I am stunned by the changes that are present with each software update, and I have a feeling that we are reaching the point where the car's artificial intelligence will be able to handle any situation it encounters. Of course it's not there yet but I doubt that it will be as far out as 2029. I would say this year or the next - simply based on my own experience of all of the behaviour changes with each successive software update. It's like someone driving a car has grown up from being a young teenager to being a 25 or 30 year old. There are of course, still weaknesses at this point, but AI is an incredible force when you take into account all of the data Tesla receives from millions of miles of FSD driving
@@model3man I'd compare it more to FSD being like driving with a drunk or now just someone who's had only a couple....either way i wouldn't feel very safe
@@lenimbery7038 LOL Interesting analogy :). It definitely takes some getting used to but maybe FSD has just had one drink :). It definitely drives a lot safer than many of the people living here in Vancouver that’s for sure :)
I never have FSD engaged within construction zones.
Pretty good strategy at this point in the development of FSD. My experience bears out they are the most dangerous environments to operate FSD in
In Oregon, that behavior with respect to pedestrians in a crossing (~2:00) would not be legal. Oregon motor vehicle law requires an extra lane-width of clearance (except on a divided road).
Therein lies the reason why FSD is being rolled out slowly. Tesla software teams have to take into account local laws, so I'm sure that FSD behaviour in Oregon would be to wait till pedestrians are completely out of the crossing area. I don't KNOW that for a fact, but I suspect that geo-fencing considerations (different road rules in different areas) would be something programmed into the AI. Anyone from Oregon who can confirm that for us?
Does Tesla put out any stats on how often drivers report issues, and how that is trending over time? (Push button/grab video segment/upload for analysis.) The trend could be how many snaps per unit of distance, or unit of driving time.
I don't think it's good that FSD doesn't wait until pedestrians are completely off the crossing because I think legally vehicles are supposed to wait until the crossing is completely clear. At least it's that way in California. Also, in California vehicles have to stay 3 feet away from cyclists. So I'd hope FSD will obey State laws, especially when you go on trip outside of your home State. But some people are still having issue with FSD not slowing for speed bumps, so I'd keep testing that in your area. FSD also sometimes doesn't use the blinkers during a merge, which it should be doing.
I have FSD beta v11.4.4 and believe me it's still not the magic number.
I don't have FSD and i'm not even comfortable using the auto-steering on mine!
It seems that there is a slight chance that FSD beta will come to Europe start of 2024, I will buy FSD when it does
17:14 It seems to be very human to wait to the very last moment, I am sure the car in front of you do not have FSD
That is true. Maybe I'm the sort of impatient human who just likes to jump out of the onramp as soon as possible. That could well be the case :)