A Sub Panel That Actually Saves You Money | EcoFlow Smart Panel 2
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2024
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With the help of my friend Joel Walsman from @ElectricProAcademy we will walk you through the installation process and also all the features of the EcoFlow Smart Panel 2. This smart sub-panel might be my new favorite way to get into DIY solar adding some additional capability of battery backup (with the addition of the Delta Pro Ultra) and Generator inlet power.
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Fantastic video, thank you! I did not realize how far ecoflow had come when you put all the pieces together like you did - monitoring, solar, storage, backup. You are set! Great design and job!
Thanks, I agree EcoFlow continues to push the options and capability.
Oh man. You and Joel are my heroes. I'm just not ready to pull the trigger yet but I'm close. Your videos have been a big help in explaining options and what is available. Thank you and Joel for sharing this video.
Agreed!
I like the idea of the subpanel being smart. I also like the idea of the portable batteries I don’t know if I’d ever use them remotely, but I’d like the idea of being able to if I wanted to.
Really awesome. Maybe I missed it, are there any incentives for the the smart panel 2?
Another great video. Thanks! If you can, I'd love to see your thoughts on either HVAC (compressor) or whole-home surge suppression. How to install, if it's worth anything, etc.
It's really nice looking, I'll give it that. Donno though, if I was going to go through all the work of relocating circuits to a sub panel (which requires permits in my area), I'd probably just do an off-grid inverter that has a better price point. Already ordered the DPU, so maybe I'll just use the manual transfer box instead, cheaper and easier to DIY. Smart Home Panel 2 with the install costs is a bit prohibitive.
pretty neat. is it possible to set this up and configure it without using the internet (local network only)?
Is the solar connection that you plugged into the generator coming all the way from the detached garage? How long of a line did you have to run from the panels?
I think this video would be more understandable if you could make a graphic showing the components and the electrical pathway. Maybe even a before & after?
I think the best solution is a three-way transfer switch that allows you to choose between grid and generator power. Way less expensive and you can install multiple panels if you have more than 10 circuits which is the standard number of allotments in the popular reliance transfer switch panel. Plus you don't have to relocate the circuits to a sub panel.
Do you have to manually switch the power? I agree this is expensive and was hoping for something cheaper. I feel like if I have to manual switch the power when my battery is low then it would be an inconvenience
@@noyjr9492 Yes the three-way switch requires manual intervention. I agree it's an inconvenience, especially if you are away from your house on vacation, but so far I have only seen switches that require manual operation to switch between grid or off or generator.
@@noyjr9492 also there are generator systems with automatic transfer capability it's just not the scenario I'm talking about.
Great vid! Would the panel be able to use grid power with the little bit of solar for home use at the same time, or does it have to be one or the other? I'd like to make use of 4 400watt panels I use for a backup system while when the batts are charged and idle. I would also like to consider using the batteries for TOU at low demand times. Thanks!
The way I am doing it now is when the battery is over 30% I power the circuits on the SHP2 with the battery which gets filled up by my solar. When the battery dips under 30% I switch over to grid power.
curious how this integrates with an existing microinverter system. atm our solar doesn't have a bypass so whenever the grid goes down the panels shut off.
Hey, looking into the system and wondering about the shutdown requirements for the inverter for firefighting purposes. Did you hook anything up to the EPO on the SHP2 or are you aware of options?
Can you tell me if I can install Square D tandum breakers into one or more slots on the ecoflow Smartpanel 2?
Does smart panel 2 handle 100 amps even with a single ultra connected to it?
Can I use this panel with 2 Delta Pro inverters?
Interesting video! Does this new smart panel work with V2H/bidirectional charging with an EV? If so, what bidirectional home charger would you recommend to pair with the Ecoflow smart panel?
From my standpoint I will use the Generator side of the Smart Panel 2. If you had a Ford Lightning a 30 Amp generator inlet would be the way to go and for the Cybertruck it would be a 50 Amp generator inlet (NEMA 14-50).
I do wish we got to see more of the App and some usage over a day or so of how the things were running with solar maybe a follow up in the future? :D
Yep, I will do a follow up for sure but the deeper dives will most likely be over on our other channel Everyday Solar www.youtube.com/@everydaysolar
How is security?
would be great if you could do a video on how the ecoflow delta pro ultra and the smart home panel 2 would integrate into an already grid tied solar system. any ideas if this ecoflow combo could work with an ac coupled inverter and act as the battery storage?
At this time I don't think that is possible. You would need to land your solar in the Ultra. I expressed the same desire to EcoFlow at CES and what you are outlining is a HUGE usecase but not an easy problem to solve.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs any way you can test this? :) wouldn't the roof top solar still drop into the solar inverter (at least for non-micros). i guess that's the question. can the ac power from the solar inverter go straight into the smart home panel 2 and be routed properly.
It would be interesting to have a security expert chime in on these devices
Good to hear and thanks for the support 🙌
is there any decent value to with the delta pro ultra, for someone not able to have solar? it would be recharged with an a1 power 5100w dual fuel (lp) generator.
I think if you are going to charge off a generator for any length of time you would want an inverter genset which provides the pure sine wave output. In certain off grid setups there would be some value to running a large enough generator for a few hours and then storing the energy in the DPU to then use throughout the day with no background generator noise.
What about adding a server rack battery to the smart panel? Is there any option for that?
Nope, you either need the Delta Pro Ultra or 2X Delta Pros with a Dual Voltage Hub.
Just so I understand, I can have a permanently installed rooftop solar setup, use the DPU and Smart Panel 2 to:
1) solar charge the DPU battery
2) use the DPU+Smart Panel for backup
AND
3) also have net metering/grid tied feed?
Yes to everything except this setup would not push back on the grid if you have net metering.
Amazing. So I could still separate the net metering portion out somehow (split/switch something?) I know it needs an interlock/block to not backfeed.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs Just want to understand, in my case I have rooftop solar that is grid tied NEM2.0 system, and with SHP2_+DPU, would I be able to charge the DPU using solar during the day and discharge the DPU to power the circuits in SHP2 at night? I don't need to feed back to grid from the DPU, but just want to make sure during the day when charging the DPU it's not pulling from the grid but from the rooftop solar. Thanks!
I have the exact same questions. Normally, to add battery storage/backup to an existing grid-tied solar system, you would need an ac coupled inverter and critical load subpanel added to the mix. wondering if/how the SHP2 + DPU can be used (if at all) in this scenario. and if possible, would the ac coupled inverter be able to still send back to the grid.
You mentioned 5.6KW max solar High Power Input in the Delta Pro Ultra. What if my solar array produces more? My is 7.2KW. What are my options??
You would want to stay under with a buffer on your voltage but you could push the current to the max and the Ultra would just "clip" the current at the max. So, depends on how you wire the panels into the high voltage and low voltage solar inputs
I can’t find the specs online. Do you know what’s the maximum amperage allowed in the panel? If you wanted to add more circuits, could you add a sub panel off of the Smart home panel?
I think the panel is 100 amp max
Does this smart panel 2 only work with the ultra or can the pro connect as well?
It will accept 2 Delta Pro units connected to a new dual voltage hub that will provide the new infinity plus plug that will be compatible with the Smart Panel 2. I will do some testing on my other CZcams channel (Everyday Solar) in the coming months where I use the Ultra and then 2 Delta Pro units both feeding the Smart Panel 2
@@EverydayHomeRepairsGood to know... I have the Delta pro and was going to get a second Delta pro but really didn't like the og smart panel...
Can an F150 Lighting be used as input into the Delta Pro Ultra?
Yep, you could pull off the NEMA L14-30 in the lighting bed into a converter plug which will take the L14-30 into the infinity plus port which should charge the Ultra at 6,000 Watts with a single battery or up to 7,200 Watts which 2 or more batteries
Can there be more than 12 breakers or can you run more than one Smart Panel 2 at a time?
You can have 12 breaks if they are all 110's. A 220 breaker will take up two spots. As far as I understand, just add a 2nd smart panel to get another 12 circuits, but you would also have to have another inverter/batt to plug into it. Typically, just add another 100amp breaker in your original panel to bring in the 2nd smart panel.
@@hgodtx I've since learned that we can put duplex breakers in the panel as well. Two circuits in one slot.
@@gman1868 Oh dayam! That's a game changer!
10 minutes into this video you mention that the 100A input to the Smart Home Panel 2 is a grid tie connection. Grid tie means different this to different folks. I can’t find anywhere in any EcoFlow documentation that the Delta Pro Ultra inverter or smart panel supports a grid tie function. By this I mean a capability to put current into the utility. Is it possible that you simply meant that this Smart Home Panel 2 100A connection is where you hooked the utility to the box, without implying a grid tie function?
Two problems for me...
1. No space for a sub-panel
2. No desire to preselect 'critical circuits.
I'm running part-time off-grid with a main panel generator interlock.
I think this is a great video, but I believe your pricing structure is way off or at a minimum needs some clarification. You mentioned $10k for the DPU and SHP2. At todays pricing that would be 2 DPUs and a SHP2. $4,799 (not accounting for the pre-release coupon) plus $1599 for the panel
Either hook up my kitchen oven stove to it or my water. Heat up to it and it'll run it indefinitely one or the other. But it will not run both of them. So one or the other, but then again it could run 2 kitchen stove. Ovens, but that's besides the point. Just not the kitchen oath, stove oven and water heater. And it won't better under white heater and dryer it just one or the other. And that's if I have two of them connected together with all their batteries still won't be enough.
All your critical circuits are in the smart panel. Is there a failsafe to keep these circuits alive if the smart part of the panel fails?
Nope, the line comes with a vacuum to pull the refrigerant through the lines. That is why it is so critical to have the lines tights prior to opening the valves.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs I think you responded to the wrong comment.
100 amps from your home and how many amps from the generator? I have a 50 amp generator
You can bring in 50 Amps from the Gen side of the smart panel. 👍. It is recommended to have an inverter generator to charge the Delta Pro Ultra. Not a must but that should extend the life with a cleaner power supply.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs I heard you say you wired the smart panel for 100 amps, does that mean it supports up to 100 amps with only a single delta ultra connected? Another user a person did 125 amps to the smartt panel but I read a single delta ultra only does 30 amps but found a graphic on EcoFlow’s site saying with 3 it supported 90 amps but couldn’t find any written information on this
This seems really cool, but jesus wept, can we maybe have a device that doesn't connect to a phone?! I know I'm a bitter, out-of-touch old man, but I'd just like it if the devices themselves had all the information, and functionality on it's own display panel rather than them all relying on our phones all the time. Despite my whining, and crying this was an awesome video, Scott, and Joel! Thank you for all you do.
I 100% agree
They want all your your
Information, verifying that it is you indeed
Not interested in having that much flammable lithium battery in my basement. It's lead-acid in a ventilated area, or it has to be in a detached outbuilding.
Knockouts?
No knockouts, to ensure the unit could be installed outside they didn’t provide knockouts. Need to break out the drill 😁
@@EverydayHomeRepairs That's a bummer but not a deal breaker. Thanks😁
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Hey John 👋
Solar... 🤣
Not good and too much expensive
Not cheap, what do you consider a better option with this type of capability?
Wow Ecoflo is really pimping out their shills this week...just in time for CES. When 5 channels I watch push the same product line in the exact same week it destroys any perceived integrity a channel has as well as Ecoflo. They might be great but so much blatant shilling is suspect.
I noticed this as well. Eco flow has been prominent on several channels this week.
@@firstnlast Yep I noticed this as well.
I would say the logical thing to do would be to evaluate the products on their own merits. Marketing a product is not a bad thing if it leads to objectively evaluation to better inform the consumer based on performance not hype.
His work is atrocious.
Was there something specific about the Smart Panel 2 installation that was atrocious? Always welcome feedback.