This is why driving fast in a vehicle (EV or ICE) takes so much energy. The drag force (Fd) = 12 x C x ρ x A x v^2 where C = drag coefficient (specific to a particular vehicle shape) ρ = density of the air A = cross-sectional area of the vehicle exposed to the wind v = velocity of the vehicle v^2 = the velocity of the vehicle squared The term that sucks so much power is the v^2 term. It greatly increases the drag force on the vehicle as the speed increases. The higher the drag force, the more power is required. So, if v = 1, then v^2 = 1. If v = 2, then v^2 = 4. If v = 3, then v^2 = 9. If v = 4, then v^2 = 16. So, the speed increases linearly... 1, 2, 3, 4, but at the same time the force required to push the vehicle through the air increases... 1, 4, 9, 16.
What I find interesting is that its still faster (total time) to drive faster and charge more, compared to driving slower and charging less. Eventually the v^2 term defeats that, but that's way faster than you can drive.
@@nexu2010I have a model y and drive to the Texas beach. I charge in corpus at a 250kwh. Added another 30 min to the trip. Another 30 min charge to get home. So 1 hr total
Thanks for making this video! The dual perspective cameras is a great idea! I feel like I'm with you being able to see your faces and where we're going at the same time ;) Keep the videos coming! It will be interesting to see the long-term reviews on the cybertruck
I think we are at a point with EV's where these Manufacturers have to stop with the "everyone knows how to drive an EV" mentality. This driving with just the seat heaters and heated steering wheel is not convenient.
A lot of helpful comments here for road tripping. I’ll add on long road trips I find keeping the car around 70 mph (instead of 80 mph) is the way to go and when compared to the time to charge does start to add up/even out. I just put the car in autopilot at like 73 and relax. Also like other folks said try to charge when charging curve is most effective. So 15% to around 80% max unless that won’t get you to the next charger and make sure you are entering your destination into the trip computer so it can precondition the battery if need before you get to the charger.
Wow 15 hours straight! When we were in our late 20s we drove from Cape Town to the Kwa-Zulu Natal south coast straight - also 15 hours and that included some bad roads and dodging livestock in some parts. This year we did the same on a different route (less livestock and perfect roads) but no way could we do it straight. We are in our late 40s now. I would imagine driving a Cybertruck with Autopilot engaged would make the trip SOOO much easier. But so glad all went well. I cannot wait to one day experience the Tesla community in person on a visit to the US. Sitting from afar, I feel like I am part of it.
@@bikesbeersbeats can you imagine driving the Cybertruck through Mount Fletcher when bucketing down with rain - now that’s a post apocalyptic scene hands down!
Long road trips are a bit different if you use the autopilot or FSD. Took our first road trip in our model 3 this summer with autopilot and the car did most of the driving on highways. It was pretty relaxing and not as tiring as trips we've done in our old toyota yaris.
My Model Y is supposed to get 330mi EPA. Realistically, if I go the speed limit, I'll get ~290mi. But I speed so I get like 250mi lol. And if it is also freezing & windy at the same time I've gotten as low as 200mi!!
You guys are so awesome! That's a lot of driving. Note on the charging + efficiency, I go on a lot of roadtrips (San Diego -> Utah a lot) in the Model 3: efficiency at 70% rated is really common, 85mph between legs. I generally drive between 2-2.5hrs between charging stops to stretch my legs, walk the dog, translates into about 200 miles between stops. I aim to hit a supercharger around 5% fully preconditioned (only target V3's of course and mostly try to find the cheapest stop), 20-25min max can get me between 170-210 miles of range for the next leg, rinse and repeat. You really want to maximize the area under the curve for optimal charging stops arrive at 5% leave at 75% should give you around 200 miles of that 85mph driving (if not in severe cold, uphill, high wind). Safe travels!
Not that I know of, as @Kikiolu mentioned that's what I do - I nerd out and force it to route to the chargers I want along the way 250kW first, cheapest charging second. I track the energy graph if it is re-calculating that I will arrive at 0% instead of 5, 10% etc, I will put the speed down to 80mph until it goes back up to where I want it. I find it to be very accurate if you simply adjust the speed by a few MPH then wait a minute of driving it will recalculate your destination SOC. @@OurCyberLife
Climate on “Auto” with a set temperature is a game changer. I keep at 72 and never touch the controls except to turn on defrost. My seat and steering heating is auto too
1:50 - 800 Wh/mi sounds extraordinarily high, like numbers you'd see if you were towing something. Even for going fast with cabin heat set high, this sounds pretty wild. Are you sure this wasn't just for very first leg? The first leg of your trip in the cold you will start with a cold soaked battery, and it will warm itself by scavenging heat from other components and running the heat pumps on your way to your next supercharger. After this though, the remaining legs of the trip should be much more efficient.
Yeah, it got MUCH better as we went for sure. also very possible we had a headwind and might have been uphill, don't know all of the exact stats. That number is definitely very anecdotal
Thank you guys for putting yourselves out there and doing these video. Such a challenging thing to do and you guys are putting the effort in even with a young family. Way to go.
If you're roadtripli g and want naximum charge speed, try the Bjørn Nyland method. 5-65% plus longer if *you* need tbe stop, or the range to charger is long. . You might stop slightly more often, but for much less time overall.
As someone who will never be able to own any electric vehicle, this is just great. I'm living vicariously through your experiences. Thank you. Love your channel.
Wow, thank you! Just as with a gas vehicle your rate of speed will definitely affect your range. If you can try to arrive at a supercharger with less than 20% of range (this and the preconditioning while navigating to the charger will shave hours off of your trip) that's the sweet spot for a speedy battery recovery
I've done many 13+ hours drives on model 3 and now Y, I often do not go over 70 mph, I will often go 65 and skip charging stops, and when I charge (only to 80) unless I'm going through mountains then 90. To start a long trip I will charge to 95% at home and then only change to 80 at the SCs along the route unless I am stopped for lunch then 90. I have FSD and the car does 90-95% of the driving for me, that's why I don't care about going faster than the limit as I enjoy the ride much more than when I have to do all the driving. The wife has always commented that I am not nearly as tired as I was when I had an ICE car with no FSD.
I did the same thing when we went to Jasper, Albert, Toronto and New York from Chicago with our MY. Roadtrip is more fun, I can enjoy the scenery much more, arms, hands and eyes are less fatigue when FSD is engaged.
Can you show the screen displayed information of the air suspesion options, showing ground clearance for each setting (entry, low, medium, high, very high, extract) ?
best way is trust the car on navigation and charging, trust the battery percentage and you'll be fine, Tesla is one of the best out there for battery management and if you are charging via superchargers you can't go wrong
My model 3 efficiency was 260-280 when i travel 75-82mph. So expect 0.7x epa range on your road trip. Happened to me all the time. 65mph mixed city highway commuting 200 w/mile. 😂
Also, your heating shouldnt affect your range that much. Yes, your speed is an absolute drainer but the heating inside the cabin to keep the family warm isnt going to be a big drain with the trucks heat pump
If it’s very cold outside the car doesn’t slowly rely on heat pump but also uses resistive heating which dramatically raises power use. The heat pump primarily improves efficiency when it’s only moderately cool outside
Hey, I have some feedback, recommendations and a question: First, I was hoping for this to be more of a „come on the road trip with us“ where you record some driving, some charging, etc. instead of just a run down. I am really interested in the cybertruck charging speeds at certain charge levels. Since it‘s your first tesla and you might not know it yet: I recommend to always get to the charger with a low battery (less than 10 or 15 percent) since it will charge faster. The route planner sometimes has weird ideas and wants to charge at 50%, I usually just skip that and go to the next charger (if possible). My question: Why did you not drive with Autopilot in this video? It‘s the perfect stretch of road, I would never drive this manually anymore, it‘s just so much more relaxing to let the tesla do the steering and you just monitor it.
We have a lot of footage, but a lot of it was in the middle of the night while our kids were sleeping. White noise was on, not much talking. We are going to put together one of those, but building a video out of 10+hours of footage takes a lot of time!
@OurCyberLife no AP? Your six-figure vehicle doesn't have basic cruise control? Wow! Sounds like Tesla put this truck in consumer hands before it was ready 😮
Side note and shared experience to you. My first experience with driving a Tesla was renting one in LA and driving to Vegas. I too didn't realize the effect of 'going fast'. I thought that it would be better but instead it made the range drop. It was a 2016 Model S. Learned a lot from that trip and have since done many road trips between all over the west coast in our Model Y.
AC or Heater does not really takes alot from the battery, but your speed does. The trick with a Tesla road trip if you want to get there early is to drive fast according to the traffic flow and then charge often in a Tesla Superchargers. Example start with 90% charged then get to the next Superchargers with 10-20 state of charge then charge the car to 80% then continue to the next charger with 10-20 % states if charge and so on and so on 👍👍👍
When I was in the USA for the first Starship launch we (four experienced Australian Tesla drivers) drove a Model Y from Orlando to Boca Chica, with the first leg being a 1200 mile (1900 km) sprint from Orlando FL to near San Antonio TX. We just went at 85 mph or thereabouts the entire way, happily paying the price in additional charging stops in the knowledge that because of the speed of Superchargers, total trip time is minimised by maximising speed and rolling into charging stations at < 10%. What impressed me was that as we drained the energy and needed to reroute, there were always 2-3 Superchargers in range. Driving back in Australia is rarely like this, except for a heavily overbuilt route between the two largest cities, and that only happened in the last month or so. This is quite unlike driving in some parts of Australia where that are thousands of kms of road with no superchargers at all. In that case we will often drive at 80km/h-90km/h (50-56mph) for hours to maximise range since charging stops are further than the maximum range of a Model 3 for example at highway speeds.
If it was 30 F, that also affected your range, and extreme heat like 110 F plus will also. If you take a road trip in the spring you likely will get better range, and then of course no heater or AC going either.
If possible, would you be able to record a video of your cybertruck supercharging from 10% to 80%. That would generate huge number of views for sure. ( Even better if you found V4 supercharger )
I won't get delivery of my Cybertruck before July apparently, but the thing that I'm waiting for the most is charging from 15 to 85% in 18 minutes flat (allegedly) on a v4 charger, I'm currentlly driving my wife's Rivian and it takes more than double, almost triple that time.
High speed definitely affect your range, also headwind, cold weather and hills. Same with gas cars only you don't notice it much since you just fill it up quickly with gas.
You notice it on a hybrid. I have a Hybrid RAV4 and if I drive like a grandma, use regenerative breaking often and avoid the heater by using the heated seats, I get 10-15mpg over the rated by Toyota. It’s a huge difference over hundreds of miles.
@@JetFire9 I don’t know what you mean by amazing because at 80-90mph there’s no way you are getting the top MPGs your car is rated for since the test happen at average speeds of 60mph. I lose 100 miles of rage on my hybrid if I drive faster than 70mph per tank. I have tested this multiple times. I also notice a huge increase in range on a regular gas car I also own when sticking to the speed limit vs going at 80mph. What causes range loss is measured by the consumption over distance… MPG is that measure. If you have a 10 gallon tank, and and get 300 miles of range, your MPG is 30… as soon as you drive 10-20 miles per hour over, your MPG drops to the low 20s because YOU CANNOT maintain that speed all the time. Slow cars will cause you to slow down and then accelerate and rinse and repeat causing you to lose range. The issue is mostly changes in speed rather than the speed but the speed itself also has effect. When I drive at the speed limit on a sedan, I get closer to 38-40MPG even when the car is rated for less and thus, the range is MUCH larger per fill up. Other factors are hills, weather, and weight you carry….
@@JetFire9 "Be honest" Whatever you drive, drag is proportional to the *square of speed* . That number increases 31% between 70 and 80. . You WILL use proportionally more ENERGY, whether that's straight electricity or Fossil Fuel. . The same "Range curve" applies. It's Physics, not guesswork or urban myth.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your HONEST opinion. Watch for the haters to comment about the delays for having to charge but a lot of the other comments mentioned tips so like you had said the Tesla community helps each other out. Your perspective is great because your first Tesla is the ultimate one, a CT. Majority of the reservations out there are already owners I'm sure. Anyway, looking forward to all the future videos.
It’s going to be my first EV too so this was a great perspective. I would think that the seat heaters would allow you to have the temperature a little cooler in the cabin. As someone else mentioned about the tonneau cover being closed would give better efficiency. Was it open the whole time??
Welcome to owning a tesla. These are all the things most of us learn early that we wish we knew before we bought. My last gas car I pretty much had my AC or heater on at ALL times. Tesla once I learned that was a bad thing I turned all HVAC on auto and set the temp. I like 70 and im always comfortable in my Tesla. Depending on temp outside I do use more power but it is better than just having it on. For long trips the more auto pilot you use the better. Your tesla will be far more accurate on trips if you let the car drive itself.
Regarding the wrist pain, most pain like that is due to wrist position. There's a bundle of nerves there that gets pinched in certain positions... Look up carpal tunnel syndrome.
Cool video! Yeah, no matter what type of vehicle you drive, you save a ton of gas/energy by 1. not driving faster than you need to and 2. Drafting off a vehicle in front of you. You don't need to draft close at all to get a benefit. Set your car to the speed limit, but then also the follow distance to 3 or 4 out of 4 (my truck goes on a scale of 1 to 4, for being the farthest away) and you'll easily save 10 to 15% mph at freeway speeds. And bonus, if they start to slow down because of a cop, speed zone ahead, or problem, you'll slow down too. You can just autopilot and enjoy. :) And at that longer distance, no worries about rock chips. And I guess especially no worries about rocks with that stainless steel and gorilla glass. lol. And also pay attention to the weather and wind direction. If you have a tailwind, you can drive that much faster with no impact on mileage. If you have a headwind, slow down a bit and save some gas/battery. Your truck can't tell the difference between doing 80 mph with no wind and doing 70mph into a 10mph headwind.
Super different doing a high speed road trip in the cold in an EV. In my experience, I just trust the navigation, let it precondition the battery when supercharging. Sometimes I skip a supercharger if we can obviously make it to the next one. The trick is to charge with as low a state of charge as possible (not like 1% but maybe 15). You dont have to do all these ev ninja tricks but it makes it better if you do IMO
Awesome video, love Mesa!! High 400's for wh/mi is pretty good I'd say! You should definitely try to charge it on an Electrify America station with the CCS adapter sometime. Really interested to see if it will do more than 250kW since those can do 800v+! I'd be glad to lend you my adapter if you need one!
Basically that equates to 152 miles of range. It's very generous of you waste your money so that other people don't have to - thank you! At $39,900 and 500 miles of range, the product they promised had a chance to be a success. The actual product they 'delivered' is a joke to be quite frank.
I "quite" disagree. Dollars aren't static. The cost of manufacturing back in 2018 vs now - and the loss of purchasing power is real. 40K is really 60-70K now. Add to that the learning curve of EV engineering. Go buy a comparative equipped FordRamChev with similar horsepower, options, 4 wheel steering, etc. - oh, wait. No one else even HAS that option. You can't. Not only that - no one else has any charging infrastructure. They just depend on the kindness of "Electrify my Asshole" aka Electrify America.... A complete joke.
@@silverstake88 " Go buy a comparative equipped FordRamChev with similar horsepower, options, 4 wheel steering, etc." That's just the thing, there are many options, packages, trims to choose from. The CT isn't only in competition with other EV Trucks, its a segment competitor with all trucks, gas or electric. Consumers have the options of gas, hybrid, diesel, BEV, 4x4, 4x2, AWD, short bed, long bed, crew cab, single cab, etc. A 1:1 comparison likely doesn't exist, nor should it be.
So fantastic to have you in the community! You're doing a great job your energy is fantastic and yes the Tesla Community is incredibly welcoming. Congratulations and I love the color I'm going for green as well
1:15 --- In my several years of Tesla road tripping experience ... A/C is *nothing* compared to the speed you are traveling. Old resistant Tesla heaters are not great; the new heat pumps are 2-3 times more efficient. Use seat heaters regularly and lower vent temps. >>> That propulsion breaking thru the air is the Wh/Mile *killer*.
I will record a good quality video of the charging curve tomorrow! We recorded the charging on the road trip, but the footage didn't turn out super well.
Sweet! Ideally, we'd like to see a 5%-100% charge with the battery fully pre-conditioned (could take 30 minutes depending on the outside temperature). One camera fixed on the screen showing KW & % state of charge. This is the real science that the community provides with new cars. Can't wait!! Please include your drive to the charger with pre-conditioning. @@OurCyberLife
Also, would be new information to enter service mode and show the detailed stats page....actually, maybe that's the page to record for the whole session.@@OurCyberLife
@@oisiaa Dang! Wish I saw these comments before I recorded it! Won't be quite that scientific... But it was a 20 minute drive before the charging. Coming out tonight. Didn't do the service mode :(
Well done. I certainly couldn't drive 15 hours without stopping! My bladder needs a break at least every 3 hours and I get hungry and thirsty. You guys must be built like camels! You also must have been driving real slow to get that kind of non stop mileage!
great video. thanks can you guys measure the bed. floor to bottom of the L track.. the width of the bed. the shortest and the widest.... like to know the practicality of the bed
What firmware version are you on? Did you recently upgrade? I assume it came with FSD Beta but which version? Did you use FSD Beta on your trip and how was it? Or, is FSD Beta not yet active on your CT?
So you guys drove all the way on your trip and did not use AP or FSD or FSD Beta? The wife said her wrist hurt normally when driving but did not hurt when driving using drive by wire? But did not mention not driving at all. i.e. on AutoPilot? Just seems strange. BUT... today I read that Elon said that FSD is not a priority for Cybertruck since only 500 on the road. Did he mean that you can not use AP or FSD or FSD Beta at all or JUST new versions (like v12) will be last to come out on Cyber Truck? Thanks for anything you can share on this feature.
@@OurCyberLife excuse me I misspoke! We operated them on turo if you haven't used it it's kind of like Airbnb for cars . In the late 2021 I was very bullish on FSD and wanted to start a fleet early haha I was a little over optimistic but I think we're getting there
800wh/m and low 500s wh/m (assuming elevation helps you guys out on the trip, not much tailwind realistically the truck is really heavy anyway) these are not good numbers, reagardless, its a cybertruck afterall.
You’re getting 1.2-1.9mi/kWh. Multiply that by the battery capacity and the real world range is nowhere close to the claimed figures. It’s rather abysmal (for how large a battery it has) at only 160-250ish miles depending on speed and heat use. That’s honestly terrible considering you’re not towing. I knew it was never going to be very efficient, but this is worse than I even imagined.
We have since gotten 400 Wh/mi. So, a theoretical real world of around 310, and that's with all terrain tires. I think with road tires it'll be pretty close to 340.
@@OurCyberLife 400wh/mi at what speed? You were using over 400wh/mi at 45mph according to the display. I watched energy consumption rise as you cruised along in slow traffic.
This is why driving fast in a vehicle (EV or ICE) takes so much energy.
The drag force (Fd) = 12 x C x ρ x A x v^2
where
C = drag coefficient (specific to a particular vehicle shape)
ρ = density of the air
A = cross-sectional area of the vehicle exposed to the wind
v = velocity of the vehicle
v^2 = the velocity of the vehicle squared
The term that sucks so much power is the v^2 term. It greatly increases the drag force on the vehicle as the speed increases. The higher the drag force, the more power is required. So, if v = 1, then v^2 = 1. If v = 2, then v^2 = 4. If v = 3, then v^2 = 9. If v = 4, then v^2 = 16. So, the speed increases linearly... 1, 2, 3, 4, but at the same time the force required to push the vehicle through the air increases... 1, 4, 9, 16.
What I find interesting is that its still faster (total time) to drive faster and charge more, compared to driving slower and charging less. Eventually the v^2 term defeats that, but that's way faster than you can drive.
If you have the tonneau cover down, you'll have much better efficiency
Yup
One Tesla employees said its 10% drop off with tonneau cover open
Worst for long-range travel. I have a Y Dual motor. Even drive to texas Beach takes about an hour more than a gas.
@@nexu2010I have a model y and drive to the Texas beach. I charge in corpus at a 250kwh. Added another 30 min to the trip. Another 30 min charge to get home. So 1 hr total
@@HiMrDimka I'm surprised it's not even more.
Thanks for making this video!
The dual perspective cameras is a great idea! I feel like I'm with you being able to see your faces and where we're going at the same time ;) Keep the videos coming! It will be interesting to see the long-term reviews on the cybertruck
Thanks!!! I'm glad you like it! 🥰
In most EVs, if you use the seat heater as much as you can it greatly reduces how cold you feel and how much HVAC you use
They have kids in the back seats and they are in a car seats so the heaters from the seat wont help them.
@@1flash3571 Great point!
I think we are at a point with EV's where these Manufacturers have to stop with the "everyone knows how to drive an EV" mentality. This driving with just the seat heaters and heated steering wheel is not convenient.
It's no different than rolling up your windows for maximum mpg if you are low on gas and trying to make it to the nearest gas station.
Or just wear a thicker coat right?
A lot of helpful comments here for road tripping. I’ll add on long road trips I find keeping the car around 70 mph (instead of 80 mph) is the way to go and when compared to the time to charge does start to add up/even out. I just put the car in autopilot at like 73 and relax. Also like other folks said try to charge when charging curve is most effective. So 15% to around 80% max unless that won’t get you to the next charger and make sure you are entering your destination into the trip computer so it can precondition the battery if need before you get to the charger.
Thank you! This is awesome!
The tonneau being open was probably the big culprit. A/C shouldn’t affect that much. Elevation changes are also a major contributor.
Can you explain elevation change?
It was closed for the road trip 🤣
If they've had the tonneau cover open the entire time and when they ran in the A/C the efficiency significantly decreased, it's the A/C...
Wow 15 hours straight! When we were in our late 20s we drove from Cape Town to the Kwa-Zulu Natal south coast straight - also 15 hours and that included some bad roads and dodging livestock in some parts. This year we did the same on a different route (less livestock and perfect roads) but no way could we do it straight. We are in our late 40s now. I would imagine driving a Cybertruck with Autopilot engaged would make the trip SOOO much easier. But so glad all went well. I cannot wait to one day experience the Tesla community in person on a visit to the US. Sitting from afar, I feel like I am part of it.
I've done that trip multiple times. We would leave at 3am and get into durbs in time for the braai.
@@bikesbeersbeats can you imagine driving the Cybertruck through Mount Fletcher when bucketing down with rain - now that’s a post apocalyptic scene hands down!
Long road trips are a bit different if you use the autopilot or FSD. Took our first road trip in our model 3 this summer with autopilot and the car did most of the driving on highways. It was pretty relaxing and not as tiring as trips we've done in our old toyota yaris.
@@gverran and Augrabies Falls would be fun. Literally felt like I was on the moon in that national park.
My Model Y is supposed to get 330mi EPA. Realistically, if I go the speed limit, I'll get ~290mi. But I speed so I get like 250mi lol. And if it is also freezing & windy at the same time I've gotten as low as 200mi!!
Yeah 330 EPA that's the combined cycle. You might get 350 in town when it's warm and like you said >200 speeding in wintery conditions.
you have your back cover open which is suppose to be 12-15 % range reduction
You guys are so awesome! That's a lot of driving. Note on the charging + efficiency, I go on a lot of roadtrips (San Diego -> Utah a lot) in the Model 3: efficiency at 70% rated is really common, 85mph between legs. I generally drive between 2-2.5hrs between charging stops to stretch my legs, walk the dog, translates into about 200 miles between stops. I aim to hit a supercharger around 5% fully preconditioned (only target V3's of course and mostly try to find the cheapest stop), 20-25min max can get me between 170-210 miles of range for the next leg, rinse and repeat. You really want to maximize the area under the curve for optimal charging stops arrive at 5% leave at 75% should give you around 200 miles of that 85mph driving (if not in severe cold, uphill, high wind). Safe travels!
Is there a way to get the trip planner to focus on 250kw chargers?
@@OurCyberLifeyou can manually select and route your destination to the 250kw SC
Trip planner aop
Not that I know of, as @Kikiolu mentioned that's what I do - I nerd out and force it to route to the chargers I want along the way 250kW first, cheapest charging second. I track the energy graph if it is re-calculating that I will arrive at 0% instead of 5, 10% etc, I will put the speed down to 80mph until it goes back up to where I want it. I find it to be very accurate if you simply adjust the speed by a few MPH then wait a minute of driving it will recalculate your destination SOC. @@OurCyberLife
I'm not jealous, YOU'RE jealous!
Okay, I'm a little jealous.
He fits the look of what I thought a CT owner would look like. Probably never had a truck before.
Very true! Our most extravagant car before this one was a 2012 Honda Civic 🤣
He had such an old car he would be blown away with any modern car.
Sounds like repetitive stress on the wrists... carpel tunnel. :( Glad the CT doesn't make them hurt!! :)
How many total miles have you driven in it now? Did you keep the tonneau cover closed on this trip?
Over 1200 miles! And yeah, we did close it for the trip
Climate on “Auto” with a set temperature is a game changer. I keep at 72 and never touch the controls except to turn on defrost. My seat and steering heating is auto too
Noted!
This is the way.
My secret is always charge to 80 regardless of how much the car says it needs to continue the trip.
Pro tip
@@daddystirednot a secret is to avoid charging to more than 80% if you don't need to for max cross country speed.
Close the tonneau, probably the cause for some of the miss in efficiency
1:50 - 800 Wh/mi sounds extraordinarily high, like numbers you'd see if you were towing something. Even for going fast with cabin heat set high, this sounds pretty wild. Are you sure this wasn't just for very first leg? The first leg of your trip in the cold you will start with a cold soaked battery, and it will warm itself by scavenging heat from other components and running the heat pumps on your way to your next supercharger. After this though, the remaining legs of the trip should be much more efficient.
Yeah, it got MUCH better as we went for sure. also very possible we had a headwind and might have been uphill, don't know all of the exact stats. That number is definitely very anecdotal
Love the ambient lighting, it’s not over the top just simple and nice.
We agree!
Thank you guys for putting yourselves out there and doing these video. Such a challenging thing to do and you guys are putting the effort in even with a young family. Way to go.
Welcome to the community! Glad you’re enjoying your experience so far. Awesome truck!
If you're roadtripli g and want naximum charge speed, try the Bjørn Nyland method.
5-65% plus longer if *you* need tbe stop, or the range to charger is long.
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You might stop slightly more often, but for much less time overall.
Yeah, that's kind of what we are figuring out too
As someone who will never be able to own any electric vehicle, this is just great. I'm living vicariously through your experiences. Thank you. Love your channel.
Unless you're 70 years old, you'll be able to own an EV.
@BuckMcAntlerson my father is 88 and drives a model 3.
Put it on Chill mode for road trips
great married chemistry and interaction
Thank you! We enjoy each other 😉
Headlights seem powerfully bright with excellent spread?
Yeah, they are great!
@OurCyberLife nice can't wait for mine. Have you driven under any other cars with powerful LED's ? If so how do they compare?
Wow, thank you!
Just as with a gas vehicle your rate of speed will definitely affect your range. If you can try to arrive at a supercharger with less than 20% of range (this and the preconditioning while navigating to the charger will shave hours off of your trip) that's the sweet spot for a speedy battery recovery
I've done many 13+ hours drives on model 3 and now Y, I often do not go over 70 mph, I will often go 65 and skip charging stops, and when I charge (only to 80) unless I'm going through mountains then 90. To start a long trip I will charge to 95% at home and then only change to 80 at the SCs along the route unless I am stopped for lunch then 90. I have FSD and the car does 90-95% of the driving for me, that's why I don't care about going faster than the limit as I enjoy the ride much more than when I have to do all the driving. The wife has always commented that I am not nearly as tired as I was when I had an ICE car with no FSD.
I did the same thing when we went to Jasper, Albert, Toronto and New York from Chicago with our MY. Roadtrip is more fun, I can enjoy the scenery much more, arms, hands and eyes are less fatigue when FSD is engaged.
As a fellow Mesan I look forward to seeing you in the neighborhood.
Can you show the screen displayed information of the air suspesion options, showing ground clearance for each setting (entry, low, medium, high, very high, extract) ?
Welcome to the Tesla family 🎉❤. I’m totally one of those people who gets out at the supercharger to chat 😊
Can you share how many miles are 100%? and what you're seeing
best way is trust the car on navigation and charging, trust the battery percentage and you'll be fine, Tesla is one of the best out there for battery management and if you are charging via superchargers you can't go wrong
My model 3 efficiency was 260-280 when i travel 75-82mph. So expect 0.7x epa range on your road trip. Happened to me all the time.
65mph mixed city highway commuting 200 w/mile. 😂
Would have hoped to hear about actual range at 70-75mph. Any input?
Thanks for sharing your driving experience! Have a safe trip.
Heated seats and steering wheel will often keep you just as warm as heating the cabin but uses drastically less energy.
Also less dry air.
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가는곳마다 사이버트럭은 굉장한 인기와 관심이 집중될것 같습니다 ^^
Also, your heating shouldnt affect your range that much. Yes, your speed is an absolute drainer but the heating inside the cabin to keep the family warm isnt going to be a big drain with the trucks heat pump
Good to know!
If it’s very cold outside the car doesn’t slowly rely on heat pump but also uses resistive heating which dramatically raises power use. The heat pump primarily improves efficiency when it’s only moderately cool outside
Hey, I have some feedback, recommendations and a question:
First, I was hoping for this to be more of a „come on the road trip with us“ where you record some driving, some charging, etc. instead of just a run down. I am really interested in the cybertruck charging speeds at certain charge levels.
Since it‘s your first tesla and you might not know it yet: I recommend to always get to the charger with a low battery (less than 10 or 15 percent) since it will charge faster. The route planner sometimes has weird ideas and wants to charge at 50%, I usually just skip that and go to the next charger (if possible).
My question: Why did you not drive with Autopilot in this video? It‘s the perfect stretch of road, I would never drive this manually anymore, it‘s just so much more relaxing to let the tesla do the steering and you just monitor it.
We have a lot of footage, but a lot of it was in the middle of the night while our kids were sleeping. White noise was on, not much talking. We are going to put together one of those, but building a video out of 10+hours of footage takes a lot of time!
As for the autopilot, it is unfortunately not enabled yet for the CT. Hopefully soon!
@@OurCyberLife thx for the replies, I‘m looking forward to it! Interesting to hear that AP isn’t enabled yet…
@@Terajoel yeah, a bit of a bummer. I'm sure it will be enabled soon!
@OurCyberLife no AP? Your six-figure vehicle doesn't have basic cruise control? Wow! Sounds like Tesla put this truck in consumer hands before it was ready 😮
Side note and shared experience to you. My first experience with driving a Tesla was renting one in LA and driving to Vegas. I too didn't realize the effect of 'going fast'. I thought that it would be better but instead it made the range drop. It was a 2016 Model S. Learned a lot from that trip and have since done many road trips between all over the west coast in our Model Y.
It's no different with an ICE vehicle. Double the speed, square the fuel.
AC or Heater does not really takes alot from the battery, but your speed does. The trick with a Tesla road trip if you want to get there early is to drive fast according to the traffic flow and then charge often in a Tesla Superchargers. Example start with 90% charged then get to the next Superchargers with 10-20 state of charge then charge the car to 80% then continue to the next charger with 10-20 % states if charge and so on and so on 👍👍👍
This is the way to do it 100%. Battery charges very quick from 10% to around 50%.
How long does it take to go 10 to 80?
@@ScoutsHonor. 15-85% in 18-20minutes
When I was in the USA for the first Starship launch we (four experienced Australian Tesla drivers) drove a Model Y from Orlando to Boca Chica, with the first leg being a 1200 mile (1900 km) sprint from Orlando FL to near San Antonio TX. We just went at 85 mph or thereabouts the entire way, happily paying the price in additional charging stops in the knowledge that because of the speed of Superchargers, total trip time is minimised by maximising speed and rolling into charging stations at < 10%. What impressed me was that as we drained the energy and needed to reroute, there were always 2-3 Superchargers in range. Driving back in Australia is rarely like this, except for a heavily overbuilt route between the two largest cities, and that only happened in the last month or so.
This is quite unlike driving in some parts of Australia where that are thousands of kms of road with no superchargers at all. In that case we will often drive at 80km/h-90km/h (50-56mph) for hours to maximise range since charging stops are further than the maximum range of a Model 3 for example at highway speeds.
This is the same driving in northern Canada. There are just enough superchargers if you drive for best range... Works for us.
I GO TO THAT EXACT CAFE RIO ALL THE TIME WOW
If it was 30 F, that also affected your range, and extreme heat like 110 F plus will also. If you take a road trip in the spring you likely will get better range, and then of course no heater or AC going either.
Right, for sure. This was probably the worst scenario for range 😅 and it was totally doable! Quite enjoyable!!!
If possible, would you be able to record a video of your cybertruck supercharging from 10% to 80%. That would generate huge number of views for sure.
( Even better if you found V4 supercharger )
I won't get delivery of my Cybertruck before July apparently, but the thing that I'm waiting for the most is charging from 15 to 85% in 18 minutes flat (allegedly) on a v4 charger, I'm currentlly driving my wife's Rivian and it takes more than double, almost triple that time.
High speed definitely affect your range, also headwind, cold weather and hills. Same with gas cars only you don't notice it much since you just fill it up quickly with gas.
You notice it on a hybrid. I have a Hybrid RAV4 and if I drive like a grandma, use regenerative breaking often and avoid the heater by using the heated seats, I get 10-15mpg over the rated by Toyota. It’s a huge difference over hundreds of miles.
ICE cars do amazing at 80-85mph with their range. So stop lying. EV’s always will blow chunks at that speed.
@@JetFire9 I don’t know what you mean by amazing because at 80-90mph there’s no way you are getting the top MPGs your car is rated for since the test happen at average speeds of 60mph. I lose 100 miles of rage on my hybrid if I drive faster than 70mph per tank. I have tested this multiple times. I also notice a huge increase in range on a regular gas car I also own when sticking to the speed limit vs going at 80mph.
What causes range loss is measured by the consumption over distance… MPG is that measure. If you have a 10 gallon tank, and and get 300 miles of range, your MPG is 30… as soon as you drive 10-20 miles per hour over, your MPG drops to the low 20s because YOU CANNOT maintain that speed all the time. Slow cars will cause you to slow down and then accelerate and rinse and repeat causing you to lose range.
The issue is mostly changes in speed rather than the speed but the speed itself also has effect. When I drive at the speed limit on a sedan, I get closer to 38-40MPG even when the car is rated for less and thus, the range is MUCH larger per fill up. Other factors are hills, weather, and weight you carry….
@@IRLSuperb Be honest. The range curve drops off a cliff with EV’s compared to ICE. C’mon! Be honest for once!
@@JetFire9
"Be honest"
Whatever you drive, drag is proportional to the *square of speed*
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That number increases 31% between 70 and 80.
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You WILL use proportionally more ENERGY, whether that's straight electricity or Fossil Fuel.
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The same "Range curve" applies.
It's Physics, not guesswork or urban myth.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your HONEST opinion. Watch for the haters to comment about the delays for having to charge but a lot of the other comments mentioned tips so like you had said the Tesla community helps each other out. Your perspective is great because your first Tesla is the ultimate one, a CT. Majority of the reservations out there are already owners I'm sure. Anyway, looking forward to all the future videos.
Thank you! This channel is definitely not for everyone, but I'm glad that there are as many people enjoying it as there is!
It’s going to be my first EV too so this was a great perspective. I would think that the seat heaters would allow you to have the temperature a little cooler in the cabin. As someone else mentioned about the tonneau cover being closed would give better efficiency. Was it open the whole time??
@@Frank_W. Nah, we had it closed for the trip. Forgot to close it for this drive though
Thank you for sharing ❤
Welcome to owning a tesla. These are all the things most of us learn early that we wish we knew before we bought. My last gas car I pretty much had my AC or heater on at ALL times. Tesla once I learned that was a bad thing I turned all HVAC on auto and set the temp. I like 70 and im always comfortable in my Tesla. Depending on temp outside I do use more power but it is better than just having it on. For long trips the more auto pilot you use the better. Your tesla will be far more accurate on trips if you let the car drive itself.
Welcome to the Tesla family!
Regarding the wrist pain, most pain like that is due to wrist position. There's a bundle of nerves there that gets pinched in certain positions... Look up carpal tunnel syndrome.
Cool video! Yeah, no matter what type of vehicle you drive, you save a ton of gas/energy by 1. not driving faster than you need to and 2. Drafting off a vehicle in front of you. You don't need to draft close at all to get a benefit. Set your car to the speed limit, but then also the follow distance to 3 or 4 out of 4 (my truck goes on a scale of 1 to 4, for being the farthest away) and you'll easily save 10 to 15% mph at freeway speeds. And bonus, if they start to slow down because of a cop, speed zone ahead, or problem, you'll slow down too. You can just autopilot and enjoy. :) And at that longer distance, no worries about rock chips. And I guess especially no worries about rocks with that stainless steel and gorilla glass. lol. And also pay attention to the weather and wind direction. If you have a tailwind, you can drive that much faster with no impact on mileage. If you have a headwind, slow down a bit and save some gas/battery. Your truck can't tell the difference between doing 80 mph with no wind and doing 70mph into a 10mph headwind.
This is great advice! Thank you for the tips!
Also, love the name! I'm a Texafornian as well! 😁
Utah says hello!
Hello Utah!!! 🤘
I'm in Mesa tonight. Would be awesome to see the truck!
U guys r awesome
So what was your range per charge guys? When it was all settled, when you were at 400-500 whpm
I think at that efficiency the real world range is probably around 270 would be my guess.
Looking forward to seeing a video about your real-world charging experience 😊
Super different doing a high speed road trip in the cold in an EV. In my experience, I just trust the navigation, let it precondition the battery when supercharging. Sometimes I skip a supercharger if we can obviously make it to the next one. The trick is to charge with as low a state of charge as possible (not like 1% but maybe 15). You dont have to do all these ev ninja tricks but it makes it better if you do IMO
Awesome video, love Mesa!! High 400's for wh/mi is pretty good I'd say!
You should definitely try to charge it on an Electrify America station with the CCS adapter sometime. Really interested to see if it will do more than 250kW since those can do 800v+! I'd be glad to lend you my adapter if you need one!
Basically that equates to 152 miles of range. It's very generous of you waste your money so that other people don't have to - thank you! At $39,900 and 500 miles of range, the product they promised had a chance to be a success. The actual product they 'delivered' is a joke to be quite frank.
I "quite" disagree.
Dollars aren't static. The cost of manufacturing back in 2018 vs now - and the loss of purchasing power is real. 40K is really 60-70K now. Add to that the learning curve of EV engineering. Go buy a comparative equipped FordRamChev with similar horsepower, options, 4 wheel steering, etc.
- oh, wait. No one else even HAS that option.
You can't.
Not only that - no one else has any charging infrastructure. They just depend on the kindness of "Electrify my Asshole" aka Electrify America.... A complete joke.
@@silverstake88 " Go buy a comparative equipped FordRamChev with similar horsepower, options, 4 wheel steering, etc."
That's just the thing, there are many options, packages, trims to choose from. The CT isn't only in competition with other EV Trucks, its a segment competitor with all trucks, gas or electric. Consumers have the options of gas, hybrid, diesel, BEV, 4x4, 4x2, AWD, short bed, long bed, crew cab, single cab, etc. A 1:1 comparison likely doesn't exist, nor should it be.
I enjoy watching your Cybertruck videos.
Can you please do a review of the interior space, how tall you are, rear leg room, car seats etc
Great video. I like the Picture in Picture.
So fantastic to have you in the community! You're doing a great job your energy is fantastic and yes the Tesla Community is incredibly welcoming. Congratulations and I love the color I'm going for green as well
Thank you for the warm welcome!!!
My Tesla X at 72 mph gets 300 w per mile. At 75 it goes way up quickly.
At 85-90 mph I'm easily running 400+ in our XPlaid. I need to stop driving so fast. xD
Wrists could be due to inflammation which has to do with diet/foods that cause inflammation. Like things that have lectins.
The max speed limit in The Netherlands is 62mph, I get great range :-p
Fun to follow your Cyber experience!
Nice share thanking you, yes was good to see night lighting from interior perspective, looks super cool
1:15 --- In my several years of Tesla road tripping experience ... A/C is *nothing* compared to the speed you are traveling. Old resistant Tesla heaters are not great; the new heat pumps are 2-3 times more efficient. Use seat heaters regularly and lower vent temps. >>> That propulsion breaking thru the air is the Wh/Mile *killer*.
You need change the ambient lighting to better match the color of the wrap😂...looking forward to your next vid with more data such as consumption.
Great! How was the charging speed on V3 Superchargers? How long could it hold 250kW? When did it drop below 200kW?
I will record a good quality video of the charging curve tomorrow! We recorded the charging on the road trip, but the footage didn't turn out super well.
@@OurCyberLifelooking forward to this. Thanks for the update on your trip. Glad you enjoyed the comfort and drive.
Sweet! Ideally, we'd like to see a 5%-100% charge with the battery fully pre-conditioned (could take 30 minutes depending on the outside temperature). One camera fixed on the screen showing KW & % state of charge. This is the real science that the community provides with new cars. Can't wait!! Please include your drive to the charger with pre-conditioning. @@OurCyberLife
Also, would be new information to enter service mode and show the detailed stats page....actually, maybe that's the page to record for the whole session.@@OurCyberLife
@@oisiaa Dang! Wish I saw these comments before I recorded it! Won't be quite that scientific... But it was a 20 minute drive before the charging. Coming out tonight. Didn't do the service mode :(
use regenerative braking
Did you use FSD? Navigate on autopilot?
What are you paying for insurance on your CT?
Well done. I certainly couldn't drive 15 hours without stopping! My bladder needs a break at least every 3 hours and I get hungry and thirsty. You guys must be built like camels! You also must have been driving real slow to get that kind of non stop mileage!
I like to get out and stretch every 3-4 hours, but if you don't want to pee every 3 hours, dont drink so many liquids lol!
We stopped a lot haha. 15 hours of driving is what my wife meant
How many mile range did you get between charges?
Thank you for the video...
Can you charge to 100% on your return leg and show how much kW it uses, kWh and how much mileage close to zero?
Can I ask how you got the cybertruck so soon, when did you order.
I guessed as much , the " squarkle " steering wheel , is brilliant, looks brilliant and cool to see you guys confirm its very good.
great video. thanks
can you guys measure the bed. floor to bottom of the L track.. the width of the bed. the shortest and the widest.... like to know the practicality of the bed
I’m on Tesla Insurance to and night driving between 10pm-4am will really hurt your score.
Very true! 😂
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You guys are in Mesa?!
Can I please come see your vehicle?! 🙏🏼😳😭
We were, now we are in California, sorry!
so you bought a 100k truck and now can't afford heating?
Can afford 😂 just get better range without cranking the heat too much
looks like tonneau cover is down .. did you drive whole trip like that ? if so that is what killed a lot of your range
Nah, just this drive. Was closed for the trip
Welcome to AZ. If you make it to north Phoenix let me know would love to see the truck. Hehehe
Won't be, sorry! Heading to California tomorrow!
@@OurCyberLife have fun. LA area? Let me know if you want some good Chinese over there.
FYI, its still faster (total trip time) to drive faster and charge more rather than slow down and charge less.
Really? That surprises me. I'll have to run the numbers sometime
Cool camera angles. I can get a feel for how it will be to drive my own!! 👍
Thank you! We are trying to improve our production quality with all of our new subscribers 😂
Show us your wh/mi on the screen please. The 400 and 800 numbers seem insane.
Ca. 20% of the trip was charging!😂 what a piece of crap!
What firmware version are you on? Did you recently upgrade? I assume it came with FSD Beta but which version? Did you use FSD Beta on your trip and how was it? Or, is FSD Beta not yet active on your CT?
So you guys drove all the way on your trip and did not use AP or FSD or FSD Beta? The wife said her wrist hurt normally when driving but did not hurt when driving using drive by wire? But did not mention not driving at all. i.e. on AutoPilot? Just seems strange. BUT... today I read that Elon said that FSD is not a priority for Cybertruck since only 500 on the road. Did he mean that you can not use AP or FSD or FSD Beta at all or JUST new versions (like v12) will be last to come out on Cyber Truck? Thanks for anything you can share on this feature.
In your next driving video, could you turn on your blinker so we can hear how it sounds?
Check at around 2:15, we do use our blinker! Someone didn't watch the full video! 😁
Hi guys, please let us talk about the CyberTruck, I need one for my German Audience
I'm not stopping you! 😂
@@OurCyberLife you are right 😂 i sent you a Insta DM
Would like to see the charging process.
Recording a charging curve video right now!
Sounds great. Handles well?
Any questions I'd be happy to help. I'm on my 14 Tesla and have several trucks ordered.
14 Teslas?!?
My son and I operated 8 Tesla's on Uber for about a year and a half to test out Robo taxi needs
@@coreycoddington8132 fascinating! So you provided Teslas for Uber drivers?
@@OurCyberLife excuse me I misspoke! We operated them on turo if you haven't used it it's kind of like Airbnb for cars . In the late 2021 I was very bullish on FSD and wanted to start a fleet early haha I was a little over optimistic but I think we're getting there
@@coreycoddington8132 ahhh, Turo, that make so much more sense! I might need to pick your brain about your experience sometime if you are willing!
800wh/m and low 500s wh/m (assuming elevation helps you guys out on the trip, not much tailwind realistically the truck is really heavy anyway) these are not good numbers, reagardless, its a cybertruck afterall.
slower and colder seems to be key during road trips. Definitely not concessions I'm willing to make at this point.
70 mph beats rated range consistently. Or following a tractor trailer at a respectful distance.
You’re getting 1.2-1.9mi/kWh. Multiply that by the battery capacity and the real world range is nowhere close to the claimed figures. It’s rather abysmal (for how large a battery it has) at only 160-250ish miles depending on speed and heat use. That’s honestly terrible considering you’re not towing. I knew it was never going to be very efficient, but this is worse than I even imagined.
We have since gotten 400 Wh/mi. So, a theoretical real world of around 310, and that's with all terrain tires. I think with road tires it'll be pretty close to 340.
@@OurCyberLife 400wh/mi at what speed? You were using over 400wh/mi at 45mph according to the display. I watched energy consumption rise as you cruised along in slow traffic.