Hagerty's Jason Cammisa on His Cybertruck Likes & Dislikes
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Sandy & Hagerty host, video producer, and automotive journalist Jason Cammisa discuss their first impressions, likes, and dislikes regarding the Tesla Cybertruck.
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That Hagerty review on the Cybertruck was a landmark gig.
Both you guys are a breath of fresh air. Appreciated👊
Lol!!! Which breath?!
Sandy Munro and Jason Cammisa, what a combo!
I've already seen the full video, but just had to watch it again. It's like watching Super Friends. Love all the content from Sandy and Jason's team.
Yea, definitely a repeat, Why?
Same here 👊
Exactly!
Great episode . Two titans of the genre.
I've always worried about paint chips & rust. No more. I'll live with scratches & dents. It builds character. 😁
Excellent video, Sandy and Jason. Loved it. Thanks.
You are unbiased. So many people even news reporters are biased. What happened to true journalism vs fake news. It’s the amount of likes whether true or false.
You’re joking right ?
Sandy 😂 just another of the paid for comment Tesla advertisements. An absolute farce
This is why Journalism degrees still matter in 2024... Believe me...
This is the truck will be in the next transformer movie…
I really love the over modulated beeps for bad words the for some reason are not bad words on other peoples channels. Good job.
I love that you made clips. Love it.
You both comment on the "face" of the Cybertruck. In my view, it reminds me of the menacing look of "Gort" the intergalactic policeman appearing in the 1950 movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still."
Jason, the difference in the cost to repair of different models plays very little into the cost to insure. Insurance companies base their rates on risk, which includes medical costs, the frequency of accidents, theft, weather damage, etc. So, a vehicle model that has a lower frequency of medical claims, storm damage claims, etc. can cost dramatically less than a model with a higher frequency of claims. I suspect that Tesla's driver assist features will lower the accident rate, combined with better maneuverability and lower frequency of rollovers, it's natural resistance to hail damage, and ability to shrug off the lightest impacts will actually make the Cybertruck cost less to insure than a traditional pickup with it's high center of gravity and damage prone body panels needing paint matching.
No EV is anywhere near comparable to insure nor will be compared to an ICE vehicle as there’s the risk of total loss in the event of even relatively minor accidents and/or fire. Minor dents or damage to the battery case underneath usually results in a write off by insurance companies as they don’t to be liable for faulty repaired EV’s
@@m1kcan1 You keep ignoring the biggest cost of insurance price hikes these days, sky-high medical bills, loss of limbs, and negligent deaths. The cost to write off a brand-new Cybertruck is about $100,000 (with the replacement cost dropping over the the next 2 years) while a simple visit to the hospital for three days can easily exceed that. By making the vehicle less likely to be in an injury accident, using both active and passive systems, Tesla has reduced, not increased, the dollar cost to insurers.
Also consider than a simple hail storm will no longer total the vehicle. And a tornado that might cause expensive damage to a Dodge Ram 1500 (for example) could leave the Cybertruck completely unscathed. Insurance companies take into account ALL risks, and repair costs are just a small portion of the cost to insure.
Thanks for the honesty guys
WRT cosmetic (fingerprints / scratches etc) I put my money down for a utility vehicle that can handle the knocks and not require touch-up paint for protection. In some sense, the more dings the thing has, the more "character" it has - just look at my current drive as an example. ;) [ edit: The wife says "It's Jeans not Tuxedo" ]
First video with the Ford Raptor having to pull the Cybertruck from being high centered and stuck in snow covered trails. To get this truck compared to a Gladiator to be trail ready, will be at least $20,000 in modifications for the Cybertruck to be off road ready. The suspension needs the independant suspension modified for clearance for 37 inch tires, with suspension airbags, and spacers. The front bumper and wheel well needs to be modified for wheel clearance and articulation. A rear bumper has to be changed out to allow a tire carrier. A front winch capible bumper is needed. It needs a skid plate to protect the battery. A Gladiator to run 35 inch tires cost $7,000 minimum, in 35 inch wheels, 17 inch rims, and $5,000 to regear the differentials. To do 37 inch on a Gladiator costs an additional 2.5 to 4.5 inch lift at $3-5,000 of suspension lift and modification, on top of the $5,000 regearing. Gladiator basic front stubby bumper and winch additional $1200. Going offroad in any vehicle is not cheap. I have seen videos that the software on the Cybertruck needs to be modified because the electric motors cannot adjust to having one wheel off the ground and cannot adjust the power accordingly, as a Gladiator that has elockers does. I have seen the concept Gladiator fully EV with solid electric full axles and a battery pack under the truck, and it is as every bit capable as a Gladiator should be. The Cybertruck has a long way to go and will need costly upgrades if one will take it offroad, especially off road rock crawling. Most video examples show the Cybertruck on level roads, flat snowy fields and graded river crossings. When it gets high off centered it is already in full flex high mode, and requires another vehicle to un-center it, or pull it out of being stuck in snow. This vehicle like the when the Gladiator first came out, requires the aftermarket parts companies to catch up, and I feel Elon has dropped the ball and did not provide these shorcomings, just like Jeep did to the Gladiator.
Thank you Jason for your integrity.
“Don’t make your judgements beforehand” - lesson learned Jason. It doesn’t mean that it would be done again.
I think it looks fantastic.
Ditto. Different AND fantastic.
The ultimate test....is the test of time. A year or two we will see the good, the bad, and the ugly. Hopefully, it will be more good.
What came through Jason’s video was his absolute joy driving the cybertruck. That is something we all want in a vehicle.
Before I drove a Model S in 2013, my thoughts were that Teslas were for dorky enviro-whakos. Then I drove it, and I was transformed. I ordered one a few months later and eventually sold my Ford Raptor to get a 2014 model.
I fear the battery pack will get damaged if the truck is taken off road, I also worry about all the castings, how could you possibly repair it if gets broken?
A void moving through space.....love that!
to be honest, thats one of the things I like about it
The Cybertruck steering takes a little getting used to.
I do NOT consider that a negative in any way.
Anything radically different will always feel wrong at first, even when it is superior.
My clients face this when they first use a Surfpick, after years of adapting to a flimsy piece of plastic.
Those who give it an hour to get used to it, then often laugh when they try to go back to their old guitar pick.
bruh, he made whole truck look like shit and added a yolk that serves no purpose, yolk is used in steer by wire to increase response time but in this case its a mechanical yolk? why?
Eggsactly
@@ombhetwal778
Yoke is bad on the Model S because you still have to spin the wheel a full circle.
On the Cybertruck at slow speeds the steering locks with less than half a turn, so you don't even have to reposition your hands from the sides of the yoke at any point.
You are full of crap! Steer by wire is nothing new! Even semi trucks in Europe have them up to 3-4 steering axles lol!!
Fanboy talk
I'm still waiting for a truck review. Towing, hauling, off road.
Can't freaking wait until mine is done. Patience is a must have with CT.
Rearward visibility is not required. Most vans do not have rearward visibility. Side and front view is. You can manoeuvre most vehicles enough with this.
Fantastic interview
Waiting for the punchline with the CT. Happy to be corrected, let's chat in 2 years. Deliveries made and customer experience. Until then it's going to be fun to watch the circus ....
"A void moving through space", B-2 Bomber has entered the chat.
Good video love sandy starting with … but those panel gaps on model 3 1st gen… then I drove it and was like wowww
I too thought it was a joke, then realizing it wasn't--was the only time I ever regretted, briefly, betting the farm on TSLA.
Then it grew on me like so many others.
They actuslly mislead people on the drag race not activating launch mode in the Rivian, not only that, they claimed it was the first car that use steer by wire technology
Excellent objective video.
One question I have had with the new Cybertruck: if they're offering Autopilot/FSD on the Cybertruck and haven't included any driver monitoring software aside from the steering wheel torque sensor used in other Teslas, then how does the truck handle a driver hand-off event? This is especially relevant since the steering yoke and front wheels have zero physical connection.
And unlike the fly-by-wire systems of aircraft, there's often much less time for a human intervention to occur (notably, it's much rarer to run into an object during a flight, and unlike Teslas, aircraft with fly-by-wire retain radars).
And don't tell me fly-by-wire won't have its issues - heck, issues with computer control of the vehicle and human handoff is exactly what got the 737MAX grounded.
Great point… but alas, this is all a controlled narrative marketing parade not unlike that of Apple’s prowess.
But apple phones just need a reboot when the game crashes. The 8000lb CT… not quite. Bless us all.
Journalism done right from @jason
The stainless steel look is awesome as it is. Classic. No need for any wraps.
is exoskeleton an appropriate descriptor?
I enjoy reviews with the good and the bad. Otherwise it's either a fanboy or a hater.
I drove a cube van for years with no rear windows. After a while you get used to using your side mirrors. This was in the 1970's.
Except that we have the technology to get around this issue already. You can get aftermarket cameras installed on box vans so that it can act as a rearview mirror. It's not about it being crucial but that it's lack of inclusion is severely disappointing.
Problem with rear view camera is it's not washable unlike the front one. That's quite a miss..
huge safety concern.
Easy fix
Man I love what Jason said about ethics of professional journalism. Wish all those, who call themselves journalists, practiced those ethics. Long TSLA.
When I purchase new pickups, the last thing I’m concerned about is how fast it is. I think you’re missing the point of a pickup when you’re talking about 0-60 times and how fast it is on a track.
You should be concerned about how tough it is. A regular pickup is very easy to dent with even a shopping cart, the paint also chips, and rust can be a problem. If you want a work truck, there is nothing tougher/better than a CT. You can also protect all your stuff in the back with the cover. A regular pickup will also cost over $20,000 in fuel in just 4 years, then add oil changes, etc., and the cost of ownership of regular trucks goes up a lot.
@@rickdc3 we don’t actually know how tough the CT is yet. It’s never been a remote concern regarding how easy a pickup is to dent and dented or not has absolutely nothing to do with utility or reliability or practicality. The CT is a reincarnation of the DeLorean, only worse.
One of the things that sold me on the Cybertruck is that the design rejects many car design standards.
Well unless you live in North America you simply won’t get the opportunity to purchase one, they simply won’t be allowed in any other country, wouldn’t pass basic road safety standards.
@@spinnymathingy3149 do you go about the internet commenting this on every single “im going to get a cybertruck” comment?
Bullshit! They reject nothing! They hust based on the Dolorean design get over it
Under the skin is just as crazy as the design. So much tech and a small battery for less cost, faster charging, and better handling, acceleration, braking.
Small battery?
first of all you are lying because Tesla has the same battery size as other trucks on the market thats why they have the same performance so theres nothing better about it and its way worse than Elon marketed it as. But you are saying a truth in a sense because it is however inconceivable that somehow Tesla doesnt allow the trunk bed space that a ford 150 lightning does which boggles the mind. then again I dont even try to care its just how could anyone buy this unless they want a youtube channel is beyond me
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n It has a larger bed than the F150, and when you consider the locking cover is on a slant, it has A LOT more storage than the F150. It also doesn't dent, scratch, and rust like a F150 when you use it for real work. F150 is a toy. This is a real work truck.
See if you can get Henrik Fisker on
Just an idea : How about Jason take a Ford F-150 Lightning around the same go-cart track vs. his cybertruck times?
I hate just ONE thing about the CT: I’m not sure that I can get one here in Australia 🇦🇺
Hopefully drive by wire makes it more likely that we can get them downunder (RHD).
P.S. I’ve had a reservation since the beginning.
It is listed on the Tesla Australia website.
It’ll never pass road safety standards in Australia, or almost any other country for that matter. You won’t be getting one anytime soon
@@spinnymathingy3149 Rubbish.
@@FutureSystem738 no, factual. Aussie standards wouldn’t allow it on the roads .
@@spinnymathingy3149 Want to bet?
Sandy, since your so far down on the list for purchase and really have to start on the analysis . Buy the ones in the DUMPSTER and get started . Offer Lars $10,000 for the scrap and get your engineers working on it. When a gentleman from Kiev named Igor Sikorski needed steel to (invent) build the Helicopter he went to a junkyard and bought a lot of hospital bed frames(same size, steel(probably not 4130) but lots and lots of them!!!!
I'm sure you could get a dumpster (covered) to Auburn Hills for a fair price. anyway Merry Christmas and Dr. Deming is smiling down on you !!!!!!!
I find the visibility around our sierra is difficult.
If you purchase from Tesla and don't like the body gaps can they adjust them?
A good panel shop should be able to adjust miss aligned gaps. From reviews it would seem that Tesla's newer facilitys are producing much better aligned vehicles. Just seems that Fremont QC was kinda lax.
From what I've seen on all the reviews, production level trucks don't have the gaps the preproduction trucks did
I've watched many of Sandy's videos, and probably all of the Hagerty/Cammisa/Pobst videos.
I did learn a lot from Jason's CT review, and agree that it is quite full of good engineering ideas. BUT... that doesn't mean I buy into the stainless steel exterior and styling.. I don't.
It's also too large, but it's not the only offender out there, so I can be fair about that.
It's too expensive and has a lower range than advertised, but again that's not an engineering criticism.
jasons comment about humans anthropomorphize everything is so true. my father years ago worked at a plastics company where ford body parts were made. during the design phase of one of the van models there was debate over what the front end looked like. one of the ford reps said it needed to look more like a happy face, I though dad was joking....he wasn't. no wonder sandy got tired of putting up with stiff management.
ITS OK TO LIKE THE TRUCK!
I drive an Armada and cannot see much near the front corners - not sure why this is an issue for Cybertruck.
It’s an El Camino
The last word was the most important. JARRING.
The Cybertruck is jarring.
That was my reaction for the first 30 seconds of seeing it on stage during that unveiling. Then I got it. Your brain needs an entire reset of what a truck looks like when you see the CT... A CT scan as it were... That's why I love it. It also makes the rest of the line up look horribly dated already in comparison but that's a whole other issue for another day...
I am guessing Tesla has some limitations on what you are allowed to put out on the web with the early CTs. Still no real life tow videos, still no real life range vids, still no one doing any non-stage offroading. I'm guessing it will jump but who will chance it and risk cracking a battery pack or a giant cast part. It is such a cool vehicle for what it is....but it has its niche.
“traditional pickup truck buyer” is someone who drives to work and to get groceries. Someone with a business actually doing work does not care what their truck looks like, only the price and how it functions relative to the price.
The Germans have always been the leaders. Even emissions are Euro 5, 6,7. Nice USA is a leader in EV tech software, hardware, chips, and FSD
Can we get over the factor of "speed"? That isn't an advantage. It's a party trick that is not necessary.
Should have been on the main channel. 35k views doesn't do this justice.
From the title, I had hoped to hear something useful.
Tesla should use PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) to colorize the Cybertruck.
😮That is Not a cheap or easy technology for parts the size of a Cybertruck! Im sure that you could find someone to do it but I wouldn't want to pay the 💵
Wraps available also which could be more of a flex with customisation.
Film has a certain self healing capability for minor damage.
Looks like a typical kit car designed by the blind for the blind. Therefore Americans will love it😂😂
I can’t get past the lack of gauges above the steering wheel. It’s insulting. “WE can know the numbers, but you’re too stupid to know what to do with them and we’re just going to keep them to ourselves.” It’s like driving a Barbie car.
rofl 48k views time to come have some fun
Truck as styling statement? We’ve reached full perversion.
The guy didn't make any valid point about what the traditional truck has that cybertruck can't do.
What exactly? It's got more towing power
There is an issue that is visible - if you're trying to secure an oversize load in the Cybertruck bed, reaching any front tie-down points will be very difficult as the side of the bed meets the back of the roof.
You don't really think those 100.00 deposits actually are going to result in a purchase
Cypertruck Rocks. That’s all. 😊 buying one
I wonder how long it takes before somebody comes up with a wrap for the front end that looks like a face 🤔
Women…
@@xploration1437
Lol
Cars don't need exoskeletons. At the end of the day... the Cybertruck is NOT for truck customers.
All new big vehicles have that issue. You get used to it. Meaning don't go nuts in tight spots right after delivery! lol Also, Jason, you need to do the same race on the go-cart track with an F150 both ICE and Lightning.
No one cares about race with trucks! Those EVs pickup trucks will never accomplish what ICE trucks have been doing for decades and that's facts!
There are literally 30 years+ old pickup trucks on the roads still doing way more than any new Eave will ever complete! 0-60 is for kids
The tesla semi does 0-60 in about 20s with over 1000hp that's cute but just a 650hp diesel semi in Australia hauls about 3-4x it's loads over thousands of miles on unpaved roads too.
Things never to forget, Motorjournalists have to earn money, and whos paying them and for what.
Fuck CZcams, you shouldn't censor yourselves. Forbidden words are absurd, stop letting giant corporations tell you have to behave.
9:58 🤩😍🥰😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Blocked for promoting a vehicle that is going to cost a lot of people a lot of heart ache.
Big 3 stepping back from FSD as too expensive and no business model. They are happy with Level 2 and 3. Tesla servers are worth billions. DOJO will come on line soon. A first new car company after 90 years that gets so many things right even with first generation cars. Big 3 and others generations of vehicles and still working on them with many recalls still. Tesla recalls can be fixed with firmware or software updates for the most part
Regular pickup trucks are beautiful but useless. No 12 foot ladders will fit in back of 2x4 x 16 and all your tools. No room
How much of his money has Sandy invested in Tesla, anyone knows?
Sandy 😂 just another of the paid for comment Tesla advertisements. An absolute farce
About the rear mirror thing for a laugh the mirror delete czcams.com/video/AjGXn249Fc0/video.htmlsi= .
What s behind is not in front.
I had the same "not knowing where the front wheels" experience severeal times. When I first drove a Econoline van and a 15000# truck in the 1970's and in the 1980s when I first drove a full size American car after driving compact Toyotas and Peugeots for a decade. I had the exact opposite experience when I first started driving Honda Elements and have never needed to think about where the front end and wheels were. imo the Europeans and Japanese have a better feel for what makes a car easy to drive and put more effort into achieving it than the legacy US car companies do. Tesla seems to be more influenced by sports car design than muscle car design.
I want to see a BullBar on a CyberTruck.
There’s an aftermarket parts catalog that was released for it, one of them has a bullbar. Lookup “Unplugged Performance Cybertruck” on Google and it should be the first thing that shows up.
Ok… you can’t criticize the looks of cybertruck without criticizing the abomination known as the Hummer… I don’t hear one of these ahats criticizing Hummers looks. Their looks are pure garbage.
The hummer boils my blood everytime i see it
Truck doesnt even have the basic tech like blind spot detection or back up beep.
Good luck owning it when something goes wrong.
The Cybertruck is ugly. The stainless steel panels make it look like something put together in a high school welding shop. However there is an element of brutality that I can't really quantify. A Ford Raptor isn't a pretty car either, but its striking in its sheer presence. I think that Cybertruck will find a niche once you wrap it in matte black or another color.
When the sun is low in the sky don't those big flat stainless panels create a blinding glare problem for other drivers?
This is why you're supposed to have sunglasses. They've also rounded a lot of the flat looking panels to prevent that very problem.
elon musk is the chris roberts of the real world. dont put any thought into his design choice of stainless steel apart from the delorean had some
Having low production cost is not everything. With the giga-castings on Teslas, a little nudge renders the whole car totalled. This is opposite of sustainable!
And BTW, so far I havent seen any video that proofes the CT to be off-road worthy. Show how it can climb Hells Gate in Moab for instance. To me CT still looks like it will fall apart when hitting the first pebble.
😂
Wow you really have no idea what a chassis does, do you? A casting is an amalgamation of the thousands of individual parts jointly bound to form the chassis. The chassis of a vehicle is essentially it's skeleton upon which most load resides and most components are mounted and aligned to it. Appart from component numbers and ease of manufacturing they are essentially identical.
Any collision of low to medium intensity will attempt to deflect the energy upon the body of the vehicle first, through the various shock absorbers, crumple zones and the car's very own components in effort to absorb the energy of the crash. But ultimately the most important thing to protect is the driver so in a really high energy situation the frame too will take the hit before the driver does.
Now on ANY vehicle, as soon as the chassis is hit your vehicle is toasted. A chassis is basically not replaceable. Once any of its parts are bent or broken it's a write-off material, because now everything is weekend and put of alignement.
And for a traditional chassis there is really no backup to that. That frame is fucked regardless how you look at it and remaking a new frame with it's hundreds of parts is very much not worth it especially considering you basically need to deconstruct everything first.
For casting however there IS a positivity of actually fixing such a vehicle if the damage is contained to a single of the gigacastings, since they are unitary peices they are a lot easier to separate, and you can then replace the casting with another one, remount everything and be good to go. An actually positive to repairability, not negative.
But it's clear to me you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about nor have any will to learn so idk why I spend time teaching you this
@@mobiuscoreindustries Seems like there is a contradiction here. First, from press reports, "gigacasting" is what Tesla intends to eventually use for the chassis of their vehicles, not individual subframes. That's the point. As for the Cybertruck, I'm not sure what the space frame design will do in a crash. Especially if the panels in the Cybertruck are all as stiff as Tesla claims (namely, that the panels are NOT designed to deform significantly, enough so that the doors do not include structural beams for side-impact loads).
So sure, the structure will protect the driver from an intrusion - but it won't reduce the energy transmitted to the cabin (nor to the structure it hits, for that matter).
AS for repairability, there already have been documented Teslas in scrapyards that have minimal damage - like a rear quarter, for example - because the repair was deemed too expensive (even for a 6-figure Model X). Replacing a casting that involves half the vehicle likely won't improve this - especially since the casting will be by definition a proprietary part, without any third-party manufacturers.
@@mobiuscoreindustries show me proof of its capabilities, that's all I ask. Haven't seen any yet.
@@JDCheng exactly: a minor smootch renders a vehicle totalled - that's just not sustainable! Tesla fails completely on this aspect!
On marketing Tesla is way too cheap to pay anyone.😅
Well, its not like Jason had an opportunity to test drive the truck & give
it a close all over inspection before purchase. Buying a CT pretty much
sight unseen is not a very good practice especially when you think
about how much they co$t.
!
Well at least you got it right nobody gives a f&*k about your preference . just how does it work . as a vehicle
Issue is, Elon lies, a lot!
It is hard to take his words seriously...
Other trucks can soon have the same functionalities in a more standard shape. I don't know why Ford hasn't already licensed the technology for their Trucks.
Because they listen to what people want when making the F250, F350, F450, etc. There is nothing in the Cybertruck that is useful or needed.
@@evacody1249 self driving for me will be "needed" one day. 50% less fuel cost is needed, but $80K truck doesn't really help that. I'd like to ride in one, but they sound superior in many ways to an F150 or so. Their cost will come down in half in a couple years, with $75K F150s out there, there will be "reasons" for a CT.
I think it boils down to the cyber truck being a toy. People may cross shop it with something like a raptor or trx but thats also because those are basically toys too. No one buying a truck that needs it for real truck things will seriously consider a cybertruck because towing will be awful, hauling cargo with that bed design is awkward, and it has yet to be proven that it can actually handle a grassy hill.
Sandy it’s 9 or 45. 40 is for people who can’t make up their minds.
I have owned Lambos, Maserati, Aston Martin, and many Porsches. Never owned a Ferrari as I enjoyed the chiseled/in your face Lambo. Big 3 just know retro. The Mustang and Camaro more the same. Afraid to step out of the box vs Tesla. Remember 1970 oil embargo, Japanese fuel sippers vs Detroit Muscle. Big 3 trying to convert gas motors to diesel. 2008 Big 3 trying to move from fleet sales to global sales but too far behind tech wise. Now EV’s vs ICE. Tsunami of cheap Chinese EV’s. Big 3 no hybrids. Hummer EV 48 mpg e with a 250 kwh battery, Realy! This truck is lighter, smaller battery, better CD. Should taxpayers still support companies that are clueless. This is a BlackBerry vs Apple moment. Tesla is also an Energy company with all their batteries for the grid. Maybe next laptop or iPhone. Other companies buying their charging stations and solar panels
I love you knew what u were going to say was so dumb you had to larp as like a billionaire batman car collector. get fuked
"this has to be true cuz why would I waste my time saying it if my life were so cool"
Jason Cammisa can REALLY talk! very good! His Argument with that disgusting Matt, was sooo great! What i dont understand, is, why such an intelligent Guy, with soooo much Knowledge, is open for everything, also ICE Cars. Climate Change? Environment? In Denial?
Because He is soooo clear!
Or maybe its a Trick, to pretend, to be open Minded?
But his tests, Arguments are VERY good, tesla could make Commercials with Him!
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