First Documented Cybertruck Charging Curve!!!
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- SO many people have been asking for this, so I thought I better finally get it out! I hope you enjoy!
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:11 Charging Charts
00:00:31 Watching Paint Dry
00:10:27 Outro
Important notes about this test!
1. I don't normally charge above 80%, or really even that high when we are roadtripping, I only charged up this much because of so many of you asking for it.
2. I preconditioned for 20 minutes while driving to this supercharger.
3. It was rather crowded at the supercharger, so it is possible I was not getting the full speeds possible.
4. This was at a v3 supercharger with a max speed of 250kW.
5. This is a brand new vehicle and battery, so it is possible that Tesla may be limitingnit as they gather data. I have no insider information, so I can neither confirm nor deny this, and I wouldn't be able to even if I had insider information.
6. Spreadsheet with data for the graphs. Was captured from this video data manually at each minute mark of the charging. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1spJlpB-GLnJV5j2msOwdSqJOjW3D4jz2RZQUWdLXpi8/edit?usp=sharing
I'll add to this list as comments are made.
Don’t blame the station. It did not restrict the charging power in any significant way below what a V3 stall can normally provide.
@@BrandonWood44 I said it was possible, not that it did. Plenty of people are suggesting that that is the case, and I haven't charged all that much so I really don't know.
@@BrandonWood44 how do you know? The charge rate dropped off very fast. Must be a reason.
have you tried charging at 800v whit adapters ?
Thank you for your observations/answers. Only asking because I have a Tri-motor, FSD, reserved (since Nov 21, 2019) so I’m trying to gather experience from actual owners to temper my expectations. There is a lot of FUD/hype out there so your documenting of your experience is high value for me! Thanks, again!
Tesla usually limits charging speeds on new models/packs to get real world data. It’s done that with the 3/Y at the beginning and every time they introduced new packs (LFP, LG NMC, etc). I expect that within a few months as Tesla gets more data it would extend the 250kw up to 50%, maybe more, especially with a larger pack. That would make a world of a difference
Nothing in being limited here. He's using a V3 charger which in only capable of roughly 250kws. Even the currently installed V4 stalls/dispensers are still using the V3 charging hardware in the background. He must go to an EA 350kw charger and use a CCS to NACS adapter (which Tesla and other providers sell) to test the true maximum charging capabilities of the Cybertruck.
@@Paul-cj1wbexcept he *does* get to 250kW and yet only keeps it until barely 25% battery. This is an issue with the charging curve, not max charging speed. Will likely have a similar issue on 350kW chargers until the curve itself is improved.
@@philorgneopolotin8762 The reason it only stays there for so little is due to the 400V V3 charger and the fact that the Cybertruck splits the battery in two when charging at 400 volts. And because it gets to 250kw using high amperage of around 550amps, the battery gets too hot too fast. Amperage is what causes the extreme heat.
The only way to keep a much longer curve is on an 800v 350kw chargers where the amps are low and the volts are much higher.
If you have ever seen an 800v EV (such as the Lucid Air or Porsche Taycan) charge on a 350kw 800v charger, you notice that it go can stay about 250kw all the way to almost 50% of the battery. And that's because the heat is much, much less and the pack can be cooled so much easier and affectedly.
@@philorgneopolotin8762it’s plausible when the CT is charging on a 400V charger it follows a different curve than if it was charging on an 800V charger
I love watching paint dry!
Hahaha! I figured a non zero number of people would! 🤣
same!
Have a great trip! Thank you for taking time to share the details 💯
Thank you for your efforts of making this Timelapse. I think this gives a lot more information to those that had a lot of questions
You guys are doing a great service posting this video for us waiting in line!
Our pleasure!
really need those V4 updates providing the higher power levels ... very useful video - thanks
Thx for the video and graphs and everything!
Thank you for this!!
Thank you Soo much! 🎉❤ That was good at 80 percent soc still sustaining 80kw 👏
Funny how at high speed the truck avatar kind of floats around
I assume that is to cut down on screen burn in?
it's constantly floating
@@DougJessee good point ....but the white labels weren't moving ....maybe it's just to make it more interesting not so static also u can spin around the 3d model right so the movement could suggest to a user to spinn the model maybe
I appreciate seeing the good with the bad. Good stuff.
Thank you for the video
Thank you!!
Thank you!
Love it. Thabks. I want to know for all the Arizona fans...is there a meet and greet here in Az you will be doing? Would love to see it up close. Very cool
Living in Shanghai and driving a Xiaopeng G9 with an 800v powertrain, I've noticed a striking difference in charging strategies between Tesla and Chinese EV makers. My G9 maintains a high charging rate of 260kWh for 15 minutes before dropping to 180kWh until 75% charge, in contrast to Tesla, which sustains 260kWh for the first 5 minutes only. This difference might indicate a different battery management approach? In China, standard EV charging is typically 60-80kWh, while super chargers can reach about 280kWh.
FYI, I'm an expat living in Shanghai. I drive a G9 with a 100kW battery, which charges from 10% to 90% in roughly 30 minutes at a super charger. If I move back to the States, I’d get Model Y.
@@stevenlee2528 Yes, I think Tesla prioritizes battery longevity over charging speed. Xiaopeng G9 has a 7 year, 160,000 km battery warranty, while the CT has a 8 year 150,000 mile (241,400 km) battery warranty.
@@rogerheuckeroth7456 You’re right. It also makes sense in the States esp considering the cost to replace a battery.
Finally thank you
Always interesting the amount of focus on this. I know I'm beating a dead ICE vehicle, but most of us are going to care about this less than 5% of the time. We built a 3.6kW (pretty small) off grid solar system with 10kW of LiFeP04 batteries to charge our lightning, and even in the winter months, It's pretty much keeping up with keeping it charged, at home, at only 12amps charge rate and 11-15kw per day of system output. We put less than 8k miles on it this year, so we're a decent amount below the U.S. Average of 13,800 miles per year. I think, even with the single axis tracking we have on the ground mount charging system, we ended up at around $5k out of pocket. It's payoff should be around 4-5 years even at current rates, which probably won't stay static. That is likely what people should be focusing on. You can't check a box(most of the time) for free fuel for your vehicle from the dealer, but you can build a system like we did. You could add more panels, and batteries, at about $2k per 10kw of batteries, and double the panels, for around $2k and get to the average household use. Still under $10k if you self-install. Ohh, and then you have 10-20kw of home backup power when you want/need to unplug the truck during an outage.
THIS!!! It is totally usable for road trips, and then rest of the time, it's AMAZING! People are way too focused on roadtripping
Hey thanks for the video's, can't wait to get mine. Can you do me a favor on one of your video's pump up the music so we can get an ideal on how good the truck's stereo sound.
I would like or love to see the service mode for the cybertruck charging and non charging just a cool thing I like about my Tesla model Y
It will be interesting to see charging once V4 chargers and Megachargers are available. I also suspect Tesla is limiting the charging speed while they get more data on how the new packs charge. Should get significantly faster from here.
Was about to say the same thing, slower than I expected but presume that they will software unlock faster speeds once they have data
Just go to a 350kw charger. to find out max speed.
Seems like the station was full so power was being shared like crazy. Real world for sure but probably deserving of a more controlled test down the line.
@@bluebikerathar At the Semi event they mentioned that the Cybertruck could change at the Megachargers for the Semi, if so then I assume that would be significantly faster than 350.
@@tribalypredisposed another one that believes Elons lies 🤣
That taper is quick. Rivians will hold that max rate out to 35-45% soc.
Every Tesla on earth tapers out quickly compared to the competition. Audi E-tron is a road trip machine.
Are you guys still in Mesa Az? I live here and would love to check it out. Been watching your channel since the beginning and loved watching you learn how to wrap it. Awesome color.
Also curious to ask… When you were wrapping it, how did you keep the Foundation Series marks on it? Did you have them add it on top with some other vinyl or did you etch or cut out the vinyl in that area?
We're going to breakfast at Black Bear diner on baseline and Gilbert before heading out to California if you want to come see it! We'll probably get there around 10:00 am!
@@OurCyberLifebefore you leave drain your battery lower and charge up before breakfast at the NXU charger in Mesa off Higley. 750kW charger so you’ll have as much power as the pack can take and you won’t be limited
@@OurCyberLife Thanks for replying... Sorry I missed seeing this till now, crazy with the Holidays. Let me know if you'll be swinging by Mesa again on your way back from Cali...
Which variant of the cybertruck do you have? Dual motor with 340 miles of range or the 3 motor cyberbeast and 320 miles of range?
Great stuff. How many miles do you get at around 80%
I hope they add the option to change the cybertruck color on the ui for people who get their truck wrapped.
I was thinking the same thing!
@@OurCyberLife
Have you confirmed that you actually 'cannot'?
You can do it on the other Teslas.
this is a very revealing thread about both the truck itself, and its fanbase. Well done objectively presenting the facts...I look forward to following your channel.
That doesn't seem like a particularly great charge curve.
Super disappointing speeds.
@@Danne89 it is possible they are being conservative at first. My 2016 Model S was upgraded via OTA to faster charging speed two years after it was sold. My 2022 Model S charges lightning fast though.
I'm not sure the early Cybertruck adopters will be happy waiting for 2 years+ since this car is supposed to be used for heavy towing.@@alexandreandrianov5970
Macan EV did 41 kWh in 10 min.
I honestly don’t know how to feel about it.
It charged 60kWh in less than 24 minutes, and to me 60kWh is a complete 0-100% charge on my Model 3 Highland RWD, that for sure requires me more than 24 minutes.
But after the first 60kWh, it then took nearly 27 minutes to charge another 34kWh.
The second part doesn’t sound particularly great. It’s true that the battery is hella big, but damn.
How many miles did you have on that previous charge?
50% and close to 180kw on the Rivian. 👌
So did you go and get some eats while waiting... was there anything you could do at the charging site while waiting? coffee house etc and is there a market for that
Yes! Almost all sites have places like that. In this case I just hung out and chatted with people so I could monitor the charging though.
54 kWh in 20 minutes... damn that's bad!
Wow, that takes a loooong time to charge up! Guess at least it looks cool 😎
Thank you for doing this, I’m not testa owner but saving up $ for the CT so I’m learning everything I can from people like you. Thank you again for sharing your experience with us
I would be interested if you did a test with a CCS adapter at a 350kW 800V charger to see if it performs better.
I am looking for this info as well. Are they even allowing this yet? I saw something that Tesla was holding off on this at the moment, but i am not sure.
Kyle Conner from Out of Spec said something about the standard CCS connector not really working over 275 kw yet.
2 have tried and both did not charge. I believe the NACS charger for 1000v is slightly different than the 500v version not allowing the vehicle to charge. As of right now there is no 1000v adapter from Tesla to CCS. So until one is made you’ll have to test it on a 3rd party 1000v Tesla charger.
Based on your consumption from last charge that was 150 miles added in 20 minutes. Need to get some towing consumption numbers next.
@OurCyberLife come chance our Nxu’s station. Higher voltage, higher power, we can really push this to see what happens. Navigate to Stapley drive, but roll into Nxu’s location so the pack temp is correct.
Thanks I watched the whole video.
Glad there was at least someone who enjoyed watching paint dry! 😉
Would be interedting to see the same Charging test on a 800volts capable charger
I imagine that over time they will do over the air updates when they feel more confident. The truck just came out and the more charges done the more confidence they will have to little by little increase speed. The V4 chargers should make a huge difference as well.
I think you are right, they are normal cautious when introducing new batteries. That charge speed curve is not comparable to other Teslas. They will be monitoring this with staff and rolling out updates I suspect.
Isn't it same battery as model Y. What is new About it probably size. Charging curve is also same as Y.
@@8bajwa8 same batteries, however they are now at 800v system, This may have some issues maybe not, just guessing at this point lol. Newer v3 of the 4680 battery may make a difference as well.
Would you elaborate little bit about power consumption. You said it was high 500s and one of screenshot showing 416kw/mile. And it is about 147 mile trip.
Try charging at the NXU 750kw charger in Mesa. Will take much less time.
Next time we are in Mesa we will give that a shot!
Thanks for sharing!
Curious why the output produces lower mi. 250kW+ on my LR 3 is near 1100+ miles per hour when in that range vs half that here. This is a big consideration when buying a CT for sure if using on road trips.
Do you see the same impact with home charging? i.e. wall charger not putting out 40+ miles an hour at 48 amps?
I also think 20 min pre-condition isn't enough to warm that battery up. Which means a lot of power is wasted and much more expensive session if max power into the battery produces 50% of the range gained over the same period of time.
You get more miles per kWh in a model 3, so the miles/hour of charge are higher too. So each kwh goes nearly twice as far in a 3 as in a CT.
It takes 2X the energy to go the same distance as the 3. So that means the Mi/hour is also half in both supercharging or home charging.
@@mikefolkmann1564 yeah there was a graphic at the bottom left of the scree that was 57 miles and 22 kwh of power consume on a drive - that's about 2.6 miles/kwhr
Overnight charging only best for now. I like the flat top version of the steering wheel.
It is wonderful! We love the steering wheel!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻
I hope some off road videos are coming soon! There are literally NONE from owners so far about the offroad capability or videos with it. 😳. But I totally get it if that not your type of thing and you don’t want to take your new truck off-roading haha
I need to see some in snow also before I can commit.
Yes please!!! Unreal how people are buying trucks to go to Starbucks lol.. Please put it in the dirt already. I would have taken it on legit trails the very first day.
There's one video of it getting stuck in the snow trying to get an Xmas tree, then being pulled out by an F250...
TIRES! Anyone off-roading a CT MUST get proper tires. The OEM tires might be ok for dirt roads but are inadequate for even slight real off roading. Tires are the MOST critical aspect of off roading, bar none.
No one is going to off road a $120k car
Trucks are family haulers with some Tow capability. Let’s stop acting like Trucks are off road monsters 😂
Did you have the AC or Heat on while charging?
I did have the AC on, I didn't even think to turn it off
What is your consumption since you have the cybertruck?
Thank you! Took a while but it’s a big battery. Would be interesting to see it charge on a v4. Keep it up
Yeah, me too! I can't wait for those to start popping up!
Big for a car. Small for a truck. Smallest battery of all the trucks.
It isn't so much the time as much as it is the relatively low C rate at a given percentage.
@@oisiaa it will be interesting to see how the 4680 cells play out. The battery has fewer cells so I could see how the ramp down could happen faster.
@@OurCyberLife Give a few years and people will be doing battery/motor upgrades eg, fitting the 1300bhp quad Zeeker 001 FR motors and the Battery... and other Alien tech :):)
Did you navigate to the supercharger? It should have preconditioned the battery for optimum charging speed.
Did you read his pinned comment??
Did you see the pinned comment was pinned 7 hrs AFTER this person asked their question. 😂
@@JetFire9 There was no such comment when I made mine, so no :P
@@thepierce2000 Did I say it was pinned before him comment? 🤡
Thank you so much for sharing your actual data with us.
Sincerely.
I would also love to see lots of video long boring video of you driving with a camera view from over your right shoulder.
That gives us a really good feeling for how the truck drives and sounds❤
Thank you again.
My 2022 Model X consistently held 250KW until 34%. This is more than 75KW below that at the same SOC. What the heck happened?
Big battery, a lot slower than my MYP, but also charging on v3 charger, the real test will be the v4 800v charger.
Yeah, very excited for those!
Another good video, did I miss what was the total cost for that time frame? Thanks
Nope, didn't mention it, $30.07!
@@OurCyberLife thank you we are model 3 owners since 2020 and are thinking of upgrading to the cyber truck, like that you documenting everything, great for future owners
Couple questions... did you precondition the battery pack? Was it a charger that was shared with the space next to you? Was it a version 3 or version 4 charger?
Looks like a v3
Please answer this 🙏
My understanding (based on Out of Spec's videos) is that V4 _chargers_ (with faster speeds and stuff) don't exist yet. There are some V4 _dispensers_ (longer cords and magic docks) in some places, but the speed isn't any different than V3s in those places
@@retro1120He pinned answers at the top of the comments.
"2. I preconditioned for 20 minutes while driving to this supercharger."
Yep, I'm going to start pinning common answers to questions instead of answering the same thing over and over 😂
What have you seen your miles per kw while highway driving?
Not bad for a fresh release. Over the air update will tune it for sure.
Agreed!
How much range did you end up with at 90%?
Are there any V4 chargers near you? It would interesting to see the difference and if V4 is any faster.
there aren't any with the higher power supply working yet in the US - you'd get V3 speeds from the V4 handle/pylon.
How much range do you get with a full battery
Can you try to charge it at an 800V charging station like from EA?
No. He can’t.
@@justonbrazda3846 Should be possible to do this, it's an 800V series pack. Maybe software is not ready.
@@justonbrazda3846 Cybertruck is using 800V. They charge at Supercharger V3 which is 400V by splitting the pack into two.
Also, NACS or Tesla connector is literally using the same protocol as CCS now. There's no reason why it can't.
The battery was hot (250 kW at the beginning), but a very normal charging curve 80% at 65% to 85%, not impress.
Try out the automatic setting on climate control. It does a much better job of regulating temperature but also activates full climate control aka controls interior precipitation.
A lot of people have been suggesting this. We've been using it since and it seems to be working well!
Thanks for this video! Tesla has a history of making charging speeds slower when a new pack rolls out in order to collect data on battery health. With luck, we'll see them stretch the curve to the right so that it keeps higher rates for a longer time.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see it improve over time!
Is the truck doing a 400V to 800V conversion or something slowing down the charge speed?
The charger is able to deliver 250KW, but the car only wants half of that already at 50%, a Ioniq 6 is able to overtake in the KW input power already at 30% state of charge with a much smaller battery, after that it is just downhill for the Cybertruck.
I believe the Cybertruck battery pack is separated into two 400V packs to utilize the current superchargers. Then in the future the system will still be able to take advantage of the v4 supercharger at 800v.
That is my understanding as well, there is no conversion.
@@itsatrap7215 An article explains that it is 4X 200v that can be configured in series and parallel as needed for 200V or 400V or 800V, but if it only is coupling and not conversion, than why is the charging rate falling to under 200KWh already at 30%?
I am guessing the charger is not overheating, so the car must be the limit already at 5 minuttes and 30% charge, using a 350KWh charger should then make no difference apart from maybe a higher 1-2 minuttes boost right in the beginning before the Cybertruck again is the limiting factor.
Porsche and Hyundai 800V has a far superior charging curve then the one shown here, the Cybertruck is remarkably close to the curve of a Tesla 3 83kw, but has a lot more battery to charge, so it is a fair bit slower.
Man, I really want this ui on my model y
Is there any basic autopilot functionality at all or do you have to completely drive the vehicle yourself 100% of the time?
Right now just adaptive cruise control
Was this a 250kw charger that you were sharing? Seems slow, like you were sharing or at a 150kw charger.
There were a lot of people at the charger, so it's possible it was slower, not sure
There's a "clean screen" mode that turns off the screen while you wipe it. In the display settings
Good to know!!!
Seems faster then my model Y at a V3. I average about 40kw per stop in 20 min., the cyber truck added 53kw in 20 min. that seems at least as fast as a model Y if not faster. Overall it uses more watts per mile so your gonna be charging longer with the cyber truck on a road trip.
Larger pack allows more faster charge longer.
Interesting
Same time for 15% to 80% as my Lightning ER and my Lightning have a bigger usable battery for towing, 131 kWh vs 116 kWh for the CT.
The Lightning is 68empg as rated by the EPA and the Cybertruck is 97empg, so your comment is hardly meaningful. Efficiency matters.
@@AG-cj3qv Cybertruck, Rivian, Silverado, Sierra, Lightning will have the same consumption : 1 mile/kWh with a 6000 lbs travel trailer at 60 mph. It’s the trailer parachute aero that will dictate the range, not the pickup ev.
@@stephanegregoire3243 your initial word used of simply "towing" does not describe a standardized test showing result of total range from 100% to 0%. I'll wait for that data.
@@AG-cj3qv Silverado and Sierra EV with fhere 212 kWh usable battery, are the tow pickup king, the name of the game in ev towing is kWh !
Pardon my ignorance, but the CT will be my first EV (when they eventually get around to my reservation. Is the drop in current over time a factor of the battery getting full and heating up, the charger heating up, or a combination of both? If there were fewer people charging around you, would the charge rate be higher? Also I vaguely remember hearing in an interview (maybe on Monroe’s channel?) where they talked about the CT’s charging architecture being able to split the large battery pack into the equivalent of two smaller packs for charging purposes. Would that help with the charge rate slow down as the pack gets more full?
It's very possible that we weren't getting the best speeds because of congestion. I'm not sure. Also, I'm not entirely sure the exact scientific reason why the charging slows down, but I think at least part of it is because the fuller the battery is, the harder it is to get energy into the pack. I think charging slower helps with battery longevity as well.
All EV batteries slow down charging past about 30%. The batteries simply can't accept as high of a charge rate as they get more full. When you road-trip, you try to stay below 50-60% so that you always ride the bottom half of the pack where it charges fastest...of course, start the day with 100% so that you make it as far as possible before your first charging stop.
Maybe you can do a range test, it seems quite interesting (predictions vs reality)
In the beginning you can see he used 382 Wh/mi over 57 miles. You can extrapolate that to be 321.98 miles of range. Of course we have no idea what speed he was traveling for most of this.
I guess it was around town probably 40ish.if you look at left of screen his last drive is about 9 miles driven in 22 minutes.
Just an image of the consumption graph under the energy tab would be helpful.
What was the charging power of the supercharger?
V3 = max 250kw.
A plaid pack in the truck, essentially. Got it. Thanks for sharing. With the extended pack the speeds will likely be different but the time and percentage will likely be the same.
Wow the charge rate drops fast. My lighting maintains 170kw up to 80%. I don’t think the cybertruck would charge any faster than my lightning.
Well it's not this vs that, so any EV sold is better than an ICE vehicle sold. As long as you drive electric you're family. It's really us vs them
@@sjvtesla I’m just surprised is all. I had hoped it would be faster than a lightning.
@@sjvtesla us vs them. Where do one fit have ev gas and diesel
Can you check your Trips data and possibly show your average Wh/mile figures! Would love to see this! Figures for my 2022 Model X: For 16,960 miles: Ave. Energy: 372 Wh/mi I would expect this figure to be higher for the Cybertruck, as it is heavier.
Awkward, but if there a good way to see this for the lifetime of the vehicle? I only know how to see it for one trip
@@OurCyberLife You have a different user interface but mine shows up (on both my S and X) on a page with trip A and B, both resetable. I keep B, and never reset, so it shows pretty much lifetime. This page also has an odometer with lifetime milage. This page is selected as TRIPS.
I see a lot of the comments saying they suspect tesla is collecting more data to then unleash the true speed which will be faster. That thought process has 2 outcomes and the "tesla optimistic" seem to be stuck on the good/best case outcome. If they still need to collect more data to unlock faster charging, that means getting more data could also result in them seeing that they are cannot safely increase the speed of the current 4680 cells. It works both ways, not just the happy path. Because if it was already proven safe to be faster from the get go, you best believe they would have released the truck with that faster speed. I saw this talking point with the original 4680 model y when it first came out off the shelf, and its still where it was at, almost 2 years later. This is a model 3 owner talking before i get hit with the, "tesla hater", which anyone pointing out negatives seem to get in such a sensitive community.
Yeah, we will see what happens! I am on the optimistic side of things, but no clue what will happen. I have no insider information
Hey ! If you check under ''Software'' and then more vehicle information, does the Cybertruck show AMD Ryzen as infotainment processor ? Thanks
It does!
@@OurCyberLife Thank you so much !
And this is why I am getting the battery extender pack 😅
So you can charge longer? Lol, jk. I feel like us buyers have lost compared to what was promised. Inflation and interest rates can be blamed all day, but when you lose 3,000 lbs towing capacity, 30 miles lost (if you buy the range extender, and that also causes the truck price to go way up from what was originally promised, I’m very disappointed as a current Tesla owner and I’m able to order a Foundation Series now, but in no way am I going to.
That comment makes no sense. It charges slow so you want to have to sit at a charger even longer?
That's about what I get with my lightning
charging for 15 minutes and you are good to go for daily commute, thats FAST AF
For daily commuting, you just plug it in at home/work, never touch a supercharger. Supercharging is really only for road tripping!
11:20 - Much noise in the car?
Nice! Thank you. Based upon that, it looks I'll be trying to get it closer to 10%SOC before charging while roadtripping, since it starts to taper almost immediately! About 20-25mins to add 60kWh, and 120-150miles, which is what I usually need between stops.
May I ask what ballpark your insurance is on the truck?
It’s outta the park!!
Your efficiency is about 1/2 a Model 3 so 250kW charge rate is like 125kW on a Model 3.
That blows chunks
Charging at 14% is for noobs!! LOL. - You have to roll in to superchargers 5% or less. 😀 - Great video guys, we’re all curious.
Well, we are noobs 🤣 considering we've only had it for a week!
How much of range loss when driving over 80+ ?
1 million
Did you pre condition?
Preconditioned for 20 minutes
So usable battery energy in Cybertruck is 118kwh. May be it has 125kwh battery pack
Yes 122.4 kWh in EPA document but 118 kWh because of the Tesla buffer bellow 0%.
40 minutes 20-80 isn't awful. It's not quite Rivian, but those improved over time via OTA.
It needs the new V4 350kW Supercharger.
Don’t cherry pick Rivian charging. You may block out and find a good charger once in awhile, but I’ll take slightly slower Tesla charging for access to Tesla superchargers any day of the week. And I fully expect to to only get faster as the truck collects more data.
@@807800There are no V4 chargers installed yet. What you are seeing are simply the V4 stalls/dispensers. The actual chargers in the background have not been upgraded yet and are still V3 chargers. So you will not see any difference there as he will still be using a V3 charger. It must be an EA or other 350kw charger. Those are the only currently available 800v 350kw chargers.
I get same results at my local SC. And have a 2021 MYLR. So not really that blown away here. Dropping to 81kw at 80% is similar to my cars charging performance. And like others said I don’t charge that high most of the time anyway. Maybe 10-60% at best. The network is what matters not how fast you can go to 90% it’s how fast to charge to get you to next stop. If stopped for 5-10mi. 5-6 times on a long trip is all that’s needed my bladder thanks you Tesla. ;)
@@Ughthisagain Of course you get the same result. It's the same charger. It can't go any higher and since the Cybertruck splits the battery in two when using a 400v V3 charger, it's the same exact changing speed. The V3 cannot literally go any higher. It can only go a little past 400 volts and maxes out around 550 amps. Meaning it cannot go any higher than a little over 250kw. The most I've seen very briefly is 262kw. And that was only for about a minute or two.
Unless LFP batteries, I don't believe charging to 100% is advised. Will degrade battery quicker. Have you looked for a V4 charger? I know their pretty rare at this point. But wonder how much time that would save vs V3 charger. Thanks for sharing.
I suspect they know this but made an exception to share data with the community. I really appreciate it if that's the case!
Yes, I know, I'm getting so much hate for charging above 80% 😂 I did this for you guys and now you all hate me for it 🤣 gotta love the internet (I know you two don't, but there are a lot haha)
@@OurCyberLife I usually charge to 100% before taking a trip, occasional charges to 100% with L-ion batteries don't pose any real problems. Most of our charging at home is 80%. Enjoy your truck and please keep posting.
@@OurCyberLifedon’t worry about the haters man….those of us waiting our turn to get the truck wanna know this stuff. Thank you 😊
You're good man! Charging above 80% is totally fine as long as you're planning on driving right away. I always charge to 100% immediately before road trips, but I'm typically on the road within 10 minutes of reaching 100%. My daily charge is 70% which is very gentle on the pack. 5.5 years and 110,000 miles and my degradation isn't enough to even think about. @@OurCyberLife
Was this done with the heater or air conditioner running?
I did have the AC on, I didn't even think to turn it off
The AC can use quite a bit of power. If you’re in an area where there’s food or somewhere to go in and grab coffee a really good realistic scenario would be to leave the vehicle so nothing is running and you’ll probably get a faster charge rate.
@@nickolashaustein Great advice, thank you!
Now Tesla fold going to dictate me how should I change what temp I can enjoy.
Great video. Thank you for making it. However, what we really want to see is a charging session at a 350kw 800v charger such as from EA or other provider since this is the first Tesla with an 800v architecture. That's the video where other EV CZcamsrs will promote your channel by copying/mentioning the first charging session ever on an 800v none-commercial Tesla on a true 350kw charger.
This session and curve is no different than that of a new Model X charging session since it's only using a 400v V3 charger. Although this video will garner you many, many views, the 350kw video is the one that will so call "break the internet." Please, please make one of those if Tesla allows you to.
Also note that all currently installed V4 stalls/dispensers are just that. The actual chargers in the background have not be swapped/upgraded by Tesla yet, so those are also still simply V3 chargers in the background, and you would get no better numbers than on this session. So it must be an existing 350kw charger such as those from Electrify America or EVgo.
EDIT: Well, somebody beat you to it. And the reason I said "if Tesla allows you to" was for a reason. It turns out they're restricting it by not even supporting their own NACS open protocol, which in turn is based on the CCS protocol. They're using the old Tesla proprietary protocol for the Cybertruck, so CCS won't work... Yet. That could change later via software.
The reason I said "if Tesla allows you too" was due to the 4680's and their dry coating process. They've been hell for Tesla and they can't charge them too quickly for fear of the dry coating not holding up too well. That's why the Giga-Texas Model Y had such a terrible charging curve and is no longer using 4680's.
I charge my 23 model s every other day to 90%. I know it recommends 80% but i am able to keep my energy bill significantly lower by charging my Tesla every other day.
Your energy bill will be the same whether you charge every day or every other day if you drive the same miles.
V3 or V4 SuC?
V3 250 kW
Unless needed for trip try charging to only 80-90% SOC and what charger recommends to next charge. Should go much quicker. Don’t need 100% all the time unless that far from superchargers
He did mention that he went this high for the benefit of "research' as so many were asking about it and normally only goes to 80%.
Do you mind sharing the spreadsheet you used to make the graphs?
(My email is on my channel)
It is now in the pinned comment
@@OurCyberLife Thank you!