Ford Automatic Transmission Fluid - ATF History Part 3
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- Get ready for 69 Years of Ford Automatic Transmission Fluid History! Learn the incredible story with authentic transmissions and fluids never before seen on CZcams.
TIMELINE:
0:00 Introduction
0:46 Why automatic transmissions?
1:45 The Chrysler connection
2:10 The 1939 Chrysler Fluid Drive
5:15 The 1941 Mercury and Lincoln Liquamatic Drive with SAE 10 oil
7:58 The 1949-1954 Lincoln with a GM Hydra-Matic 4-speed transmission with Lincoln ATF
10:45 The 1951 Fordomatic 3-speed transmission
12:56 GM ATF standards
13:18 GM Type "A" Fluid
15:35 You don't drive a Ford, it drives you
17:04 Ford Transmatic 6-Speed automatic in 1957
18:15 1959 Ford Type "A" and Type "B" Fluids
18:41 1960 Ford Type "D" Fluid
20:07 1967 Ford Type "F" Fluid
22:53 1974 Ford Type "CJ" Fluid
23:45 Ford's use of Dexron-II(D) fluid
25:45 Base oil and ATF improvements of the 1970s
27:36 1981 Ford Type "H" Fluid and Torque Converter Clutches
30:47 1987 Mercon Fluid
31:04 Aftermarket Fluid Confusion
33:40 Base oil and ATF improvements of the 1990s
35:23 1996 Mercon V Fluid
37:15 2001 Mercon SP Fluid
38:18 2005 Mercon LV Fluid
40:20 2014 Mercon ULV Fluid and the 10-Speed 10R80
42:54 Buyer beware of aftermarket fluids
46:35 Vehicle Top Speed Reduced with the wrong fluid
48:20 Video wrap-up
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Prof, Kelly your passion is inspiring, a fresh breeze of air amongst all the misinformation floating in youtube. Please continue publishing your educational material.
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Video worth its weight in gold. One of a kind. Thanks for sharing your massive experience with us.
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Between your videos and the comments, I'm becoming an automatic expert.
Whether it is the latest hybrid technology, or a history lesson, I know your videos will be interesting and informative. Another wonderful presentation. Thank you for sharing, professor.
Thank you!
We had 52 Dodge with fluid drive in 63. My dad worked for Ford in Lorraine Ohio. We bought it used for 50 bucks. Flat head 6. My dad fixed the transmission and he loved this car. Ours had clutch but it shifted it’s self when you let off the gas. This car ran so smooth and so quiet you could barely tell it was running. I had the big Rams head hood ornament on it.
Very cool, thanks for sharing
Thanks Prof. Kelly. Been waiting for this. Really enjoy these videos.
Thanks for watching!
Same here, such awesome info!
YES! Thank you, thank you, thank you. Love these.
Thank you for making these videos.
Thank you
Thanks! Many people are fooled into thinking those multi fluids will be ok. Very good explanation! I’ve had this discussion with so many people, but almost all are too lazy to just go get the right stuff. (Some even say, oh they just need a little bit of it...suggesting that is ok...) I’ve watched all 3 of your trans fluid videos and have started reading every ATF fluid bottle back panels, and have verified your findings! Thanks from all of us that will follow your suggestions, and to those that don’t, it will be hard for me to feel sorry for them when they end up with transmission failure.
Thank you and thanks for your feedback.
I have been anxiously awaiting the next installment in this series!
Thank you
Useful information on transmissions for collectors, restorers and historians, and general gearheads!
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode! Thanks for putting in all the time to research the different automatic transmission fluids and sharing it with us! Now off to watch the Chrysler automatic transmission fluid video!
You are welcome, thanks for watching
Yes I enjoyed this very much I thank you for taking your time here to educate me
You are welcome
Helpful and super informative as always! Thanks Professor K.
Thank you very much!
thanks for all your great vids prof. Kelly so much great info
Thank you very much!
Your reading the old car adds is really enjoyable ,thanks 👍
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thanks for sharing .awesome as usual !
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Excellent video as always. Good things to know about fluids.
Thank you!
Love love this series!!
Thank you
I really enjoyed this thank you .
Professor Kelly, THANKYOU for that explanation of the Ford Auto Trans Fluids. Your video's are always detailed, this one helped me understand what-the-heck they were doing back then. The 6 speed automatic truck trans was different. I can only imagine how big and complex a "manually" shifted 6 speed auto must have been! I remember in the early 50's, Chrysler vehicles having two types of.....I guess you could call them "semi automatics." One was a two speed column shift (two on the tree) with a clutch. You pushed in on the clutch to engage either forward gear or the reverse, then let it out slowly. When the shifter was in the up position, which would be 1st gear, you could shift into the lower position or 2nd gear without the clutch, although I saw people use the clutch for that shift change. Once you got moving and picked up speed, you momentarily let up on the throttle and the trans would give an audible "clunk" and that put it into 3 or the normal road gear. When you stopped, unless you went to neutral or shifted into reverse, you could keep the clutch out, in other words, you did not have to push in the clutch pedal. That was kinda neat.
Later on, I was in a Chrysler product vehicle and noted the shift "selection" at the top of the shift handle on the steering column. It read, Park, Neutral, Drive, Low, Reverse. WOW I thought! It's one of those new automatic transmissions! My Dad said, "NO, this has a clutch also!" HUH? YUP! You used the clutch to come out of "PARK" and position the shifter in Drive or Reverse. Let the clutch out slowly and from that point on, unless you stopped to shift from Drive to Reverse, you didn't need to push the clutch pedal. As a young person, BACK THEN, (I was born in 1948) I had no idea how that worked. Later on as time went on and the separation of Automatic and Manual Transmissions became the "selection" as to what your vehicle would have, I quickly surmised how that older trans worked. "IT HAD to have a clutch AND a torque converter I thought!" Crazy as that sounds, I think I was right. At least it was used in the transmission you were describing. Anyway as the vehicles back then were "underpowered" compared to the Monsters we have today, It's kind of obvious those transmissions didn't have to be built to handle 600-1000 horse power and from about 700 to 1200 Foot Pounds of Torque. As to the reason why Ford waited 11 years to have their own automatic? I think Henry didn't want that transmission in his vehicles. He was old school with the Model "T" and took a long time for changes to be made in his vehicles. I remember one engineer, don't remember the company, but he had said after the Automatic came on the scene. "It's one of the worst transmissions ever (I believe the word was) foisted on the American Public!" Course back then, you had the infamous "slip and slide with a Powerglide" which was GM's 2 speed cast iron Powerglide. My parents 53 Chevrolet had that one. NO CLUTCH! My Mom was happy! They were known for some slippage in the torque converter, but hey! Gas was only about 20 cents a gallon, so who cares about gas mileage! And Smog Control? What the devil is that? Any way, I've bloviated long enough. I hope this helps you with your historical approach to Chrysler transmissions. Of course the best was the 727 3 speed automatic. TOUGH transmission! Until GM's Allison division came up with the 3000 and 4000 series transmissions and Ford came out with the I think it was the 6R120 or 6R140!
Thank you again.
Mike Chiodetti
Retired Auto Electrician (and mechanic)
Awesome feedback, thank you so much for sharing. I will be shooting a Chrysler ATF history video this week with more info. Best wishes!
Excellent, thanks. Finally clarified if I can use Mercon V in my 1996 Ford Ranger which specifies just Mercon.
Well presented series. It's interesting how the development of new transmissions kept running into problems which necessitated development of fluid that could handle the heat and also low-temp operation. I like how you get a kick out of the old ads, those were cool to see
Thank you very much for this :)
Greetings for the new year., you always make good videos. Also make sure to cover about the blinker fluid the next time.
Yes I remember those fluid drive transmissions well. You had a choice of using it like a standard, sifting using the clutch, or automatic shifting by just letting off the gas and it would shift for you. To stop just hit the brake and it would shift down automatically as it slowed and no clutch was needed. That being said the transmission seemed to last longer if you treated it like a standard using the clutch.
Cool, thanks for sharing
Sounds so interesting, I have always wanted to drive a fluid coupled manual. I can see all that extra weight adding a lot of wear to the synchronizers if you never used the clutch, or the fluid overheating by heavily loading 3rd for long periods at low speed.
Awesome video
Really informative, thank you
Thank you
Thank you very much. Excellent.
Thank you!
In 1987, the Mercon was for the AX4S to the Taurus V6 3.0L. Kind of a Dexron III F
Great technical history professor 👍
Thanks for watching!
Great video
Thanks
It probably took the marketing dept in Dearborn 11 years to come up with the name Fordomatic.
LOL! Thanks for your feedback!
They actually bought the design from Borg-Warner in 1950. Borg-Warner built half of Ford’s transmissions for the first five years as part of the deal.
Worked at a Ford dealer since 1986 for 15 years on the 250 and up E and F series in 89 when the first E4OD came out man had 2 torn down and 3 just pulled. Anyway I have a bottle of Mercon also says meets dexron 3 bottle is black. Not too savvy with this computer stuff to send you a pic. If you really want a pic I ask the younger folk residing here. And I am the guy that asked you if you ever get a Cmax cvt would be interesting on a teardown and maybe how to service the fluid as the Wife has one with 100,000klm on it now. Keep up the good work always interesting.
Thank you for your feedback. If you could email me a photo of the front and rear pf the bottle it would be great jkelly1@weber.edu Thank you. I do have a video on the Cmax cvt here: czcams.com/video/hHU5xFOBcsU/video.html
happy healthy new year professor kelley.
Thank you
Happy to see the history agian
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Greattt.... Dr of Transmissions!!!!!
I hope you will be making a video on the Ford 10-speed!
It is on my list for later this spring
Thank you. I just did a 35k drain and fill on my 2017 F 150 , 6R80. I was surprised how brands of ATF lead you to believe they are compatible with Mercon LV. I stuck with Ford Mercon LV and had great results.
Don’t forget the Motorcraft FNR5 ATF for the 2006-2009 Fusion and Milan vehicles with the 5 speed auto. The 6 speed autos in some Fusions, Milans, and Zephyrs from around the same era were the Aisin AW-F21 transmission and used “Motorcraft Premium ATF”.
Good points, Thanks for your feedback!
Back in the hot rod era, our shop used Ford type F on all performance cars. The type F definitely gave a harder shift. We never noticed any longevity issues even though most customers hammered the hell out of their transmissions
I used to run Type F in my TH350 transmission ... it was like a shift kit in a can. B&M Trick Shift is basically Type F with green dye. It never hurt the trans while I ran it.
Worked at full service filling stations in the late 60s and early 70s. I didn’t know anything about the different transmission fluids except for Dexron for GM and “F” for fords. Yikes I wonder how many transmissions we cooked. None of us kids were given any training. I found it interesting sperm whale oil was part of the additive package. I thought I heard that mentioned back in the day. I found this series very interesting. Thank you for sharing your research.
Thank you very much!
The Honda 3.1 ATF we put on the ZF 9 speed transaxle says to shake well on the bottle as well. I always thought that was odd until your comment about additive separation.
I did not know that, thank you!
In the UK Borg Warner 35 transmissions were used by several different vehicle manufacturers but the fluid type fill varied between manufacturers some used AT-F and some used ATF-A. Suffix F fluid did give harsher "sportier" changes.
Ford-o-matic and Cruise-o-matic were developed with Borg Warner. My first car was a 1974 LTD. 1974 Galaxies got Ford C6 transmissions. The LTDs got BW Cruise-o-matics.
MTF also needs this series.
Interestingly, in 2005 when I decided to change the transmission fluid in my 2003 F-150 at 25,000 miles, the Mobil 1 multi-vehicle fluid specifically said on the front and also back of the label that it was MERCON V compatible. By about 2007 or 2008, that compatibility statement was not on there and the text on that bottle was very similar to the one you have in the video. I used the factory Motorcraft brand MERCON V for that fluid change.
I will say that the transmission worked flawlessly with the Mobil 1 and the internals looked like new with no debris in the pan, but I was certainly concerned about the change of recommendation on the bottle later on. I still have one of the bottles from that 2005 time frame if you would like a picture of the label front and back.
Thanks for your feedback. I would like a photo of the front and rear of that bottle. Email jkelly1 at Weber.edu. Manufacturers do monitor counterfeit fluids and claims. Sometimes they send a notice to remove the claim on the bottle. Thanks again
Interesting history.
Good presentation Mr, good youtuber, sucses, 😁👍
Thank you
Thank you, sir! BTW, just an old habit of an old man, I have always shook containers of automotive fluids of all kind before use whether new or previously opened. Had a guy my age now tell way back when I first became interested in cars that he saw containers of some fluid, the particular type/brand has long since been forgotten, where something had settled in the bottom of a new bottle of the fluid. He shook it up and apparently it became remixed in the fluid and was successfully used. Might have been an old wives tale but shaking it up first couldn't hurt.
Unless it was dirt settled in the can
Interesting stuff! About type F. I worked as a mechanic in a Ford dealership from 1974 through 1979. I seem to remember that there were Ford TSB's at that time recommending using Dexron II or equivalents in All Ford automatics at overhaul no matter what the original specs were, but not to mix fluids in transmissions still in service. All I remember for sure is that you could pretty much tell if a trans had type F in it, as the fluid seemed to turn into a greenish colored mess that was murder to clean up at overhaul. Whether this was caused by mixing different fluids I have no way of knowing.This may not all be correct, as this is from memory of 40 plus years ago, but I worked in an independent transmission shop until the mid 90s, and nobody ever used type F in any Ford transmission that I remember up to that time.
Wow, i had no idea
amazing
Thank you
All great points that's why I only run Subaru factory fluid (ideumist) fluid for my Jatco 5sp auto oe what's called 5EAT. That also goes for Toyota was fluid.
Thank you and thanks for your feedback
I was always under the impression for years and years growing up working in service stations that the different types of fluid were for heat range or the duty cycle of the transmission..
Thanks for your feedback. Now you know better
Nice
I love this video, historical and informative. Question, in my 1987, 1995, & 1998 Fords, the Transfer Cases (Borg Warner)specify "ATF" for fill. Would this be referring to the 1987 MERCON standard? Some are saying that MERCON V will not lubricate these transfer cases properly. I was wondering if you had heard any news about that?
Prof,Kelly
Thank you for your technical history (amazing)
I have a question ,i own 1950 Lincoln and i need to change the automatic transmission fluid ,could you please tell me which fluid i need ,
Thank you,
Regards
Mario Tonna
The Ford-o-Matic introduced in 1951 model year was the finest transmission when it was introduced. The same design was manufactured until 1980, 29 years.
Around 1960, as a high school student, the shop where I worked part time asked me to find out why a rebuilt Fordomatic did not shift correctly. No one in the shop had been able to find a problem. I determined that the oil sleeve that connected an oil manifold on the tail shaft to the clutches on the center shaft was out of position. Either it was pressed into the tail shaft incorrectly or it rotated after being installed. Anyway, it reversed the connections to the two clutches resulting in an undesirable shift sequence.
That is awesome, thanks for sharing!
I know I'm a bit late to the party....
I work part time at a national auto parts retailer , I appreciate the videos it helps me make sense of crazy alphabet soup of fluid spec and names like Ford cj is dexron II equivalent and the mystery type H .... my 1st vehicle was a '87 Ford with an A4LD the fluid spec was printed on the dipstick and about a foot long " Use ....type H / Dexron IIE /Mercon .... must be of type III/II FLUID..." that said later in life it developed a leaking front transmission seal and i learned that for whatever reason most of the 80's and 90's Fords that cross spec'd Dexron II preferred Dexron VI to Mercon V even though there should not be much difference. The shift characteristics change enough to cause hunting and shuddering and missed shifts... once or twice a year a customer services that era Ford with Mercon V and comes back complaining of issues 98% of the time changing to Dexron VI solves the problem . Any thoughts
BTW thanks for the great videos
Great video,but how could you miss out the Ford ATX 3 speed Transmission of 1981.It was Ford's first Automatic Transmission for Front wheel Drive cars,and was also used in the European Ford Escort from 1982-85.
Thank you, I did forget to read it and 6 others from my list from the 1970s after the Type-CJ fluid was released. My apologies.
Really enjoyed this info. My experience with Ford-O-Matics is that they are 2 speed, Cruise-O-Matics were 3 speeds.. I think you missed the ZF CFT-30 CVT in '05-'07 Freestyle and some 500's. This trans uses XT-7-QCFT which is dark green in color. Lots of flack about this trans, but I have one with 241,000 miles and still delivers 25 MPG hiway in a 4000 lb. car. Fluid changes at Ford at every 60k, although it's a little overdue now.
When I did all my own work I used Pennzoil and Prestone products. The Freestyle mentioned above has had only Motorcraft blended oil and still uses very little between changes. I have a couple of other Fords and will only use Ford in them now.
Thanks, the Fordomatic had three gears, but it never went onto low gear unless you moved the gear selector into "Lo". You are correct, I forgot the ZF CVT and it's unique fluid. Thanks again
@@WeberAuto And thank you for clarifying the FOM. Really enjoy your informative videos, I learn something for every one I watch.
There were two different ford-o-matics the Early one was a 3 speed cast iron case. The later was a 2 speed aluminum case
What fluld should i use in soviet copy of fordomatic 3 speed small case, with metalceramic and steel clutch plates?
Thanks for your great work and time spent putting this video together. It’s interesting to see the progression of the fluids over the decades.
I’m in the repair industry for these automatics and I can tell you universal fluids have their place. The key issue is matching the operating viscosity of the specified fluid. The new solenoids and operating orifices on the control sides seem to demand a viscosity match to operate correctly.
Licensing is just a cash grab and nothing else. You can see even in the past there was quite a bit of compatibility present. We have to deviate on some makes and models and use a different fluid type to alleviate concerns the manufacturer has not or will not address once these units have some miles. If your vehicle is under factory warranty, I agree you have no choice but to use factory fluids to maintain the warranty. But once it enters the aftermarket, my advice is to listen to aftermarket guys as we have to make these units actually work in the long term and warranty them.
Again great work and thanks for your time. As another poster mentioned it’s Mercon “Five” I’ve never heard anyone call it by the letter V. They just wanted to leap frog GM I think. LOL. It would be great to know the story on that naming decision.
Thank you and thanks for your feedback. I mean no disrespect with the following comments. I am sure you want the best for your customers and at the same time want to make the most profit from fluid and part sales. Aftermarket fluids is a controversial topic with many complications. To say that licensing programs are just a cash grab is inaccurate. One could argue that non-licensed fluids are a cash grab from the unsuspecting general population. If you were to see the fluid specifications, approved additive packages, and the performance tests that licensed fluids must meet, you would have a difficult time arguing that "universal fluids" are acceptable to use. There is a lot more to a proper fluid than base oil viscosity indexes and pour points. You will never convince me that "aftermarket guys" know what is better for a transmission than the transmission manufacturer that designed, built it, and warranted it for the length of their powertrain warranty. I could be wrong about the letter V in relation to Mercon V. It could be a 5, but none of their subsequent fluids used roman numerals. Have a great day!
WeberAuto If you saw the mistakes and engineering flaws we deal with after these units get out in the real world your perspective would be different.
I agree there is a lot of confusion on the topic. Just trying to add some field knowledge to the academic side of the topic. Again thanks for your hard work and furthering the education on the topic. Really respect your channel.
WeberAuto John if you look at Ford’s actual part numbers for Mercon V -XT5QM then the following fluid SP - XT6QSP. Ford then jumped to XT10 and XT12 on LV and ULV.
@@danhg3885 I missed that, thank you!
@@danhg3885 I appreciate your feedback
Ok..quick question...assuming after research that I should use Mercon V for trans and power steering for 1996 F-150 5.8l? Let me know, thanks
This Video Really Help People A lot but in my part I'm still confuse to what Mercon should I use for my 2010 Ford Focus TDCi 2.0 Hatchback Six Speed :/ I'm a little confuse on which to pick. Mercon V or Mercon LV pero help me Prof. Kelly thanks
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I wish you had included comments on Amsoil full synthetic transmission fluids, maybe in an update to this series?
Thanks for your feedback. They have the same semi-misleading compatibility claims. There is nothing magical about Amsoil or any other brand of ATF except for their marketing. They are all made of base oils with additive packages.
Hi ! I have a 66 Mustang and in Brazil we don’t have the oil type F. Are there other options ? For example, Mercon or Dextron that I can use ? Thank you !
it is OK to use Mercon V in a 94 F-150 power steering system that calls for Type F? thanks! your ATF videos are really helpful!
I have a 96'..did you ever get a response?
@@TheLANDSQUID Not yet. but I've read a lot of comments in forums and for PS use.. it seems to be OK to use Mercon V as a substitute (sounds logic to me, is just for hydraulic use). As long you don't use it for transmissions that calls for Type F or other kind of ATF.
I noticed that type F fluid foams up, I thought perhaps it was designed to do that to lubricate the components in the upper portion of the transmission case
USSR/Russian made GAZ 12 produced in 1940s-1950s had a similar to Chrysler coupling of a torque converter and a clutch.
Very interesting!
If my late model vehicle ULV fluid sets too long should I shake the vehicle before I drive it so the additive don't just settle to the bottom of the pan? Did they resend the federal law that no transmission fluid could cause damage to any other transmission if mixed with other specs of transmission fluid.
LOL! It is not a concern once it is in the vehicle; however, when adding less than an entire bottle of fluid, shaking insures a proper mix. I am not aware of a law. I know California is trying to force truth in advertising in regard to universal fluids.
so what is the cst of original mercon, is v truly compatible with the E4OD, from what I have researched mercon v is thicker then mercon, is this going to give shudder issues ?
What does ford use in their 6 speed dual clutch transmissions found in newer focus's?
nice
Thank you
What goes into a Ford freestyle with the CVT?
Can I use dextron 3 on ford that uses mercon 5?
I have a “Mile-O-Matic” transmission manual for the 1959 Edsel. You can have have it if you want it. I used to own a 59 Edsel but sold it. I also have a full can of that FoMoCo fluid from 1960. Same red and white can. Also a Motorcraft can from the 70s.
Hi, that would be awesome. email me at jkelly1@weber.edu and we can make arrangements. Thank you
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Hello , how are you are believe life Time fluid for transmission look like BMW, VW Mercedes ? Thanks
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a friend has a 1956 GMC 3/4 ton truck. 315 ci engine. with the 4 speed hydro trans. and it does collect 3 and 4 hard
That's a 4 speed (non overdrive) dual band hydramatic transmission. They are known to shift a bit harsh, especially with harder throttle but 1-2 and 3-4 should feel the same unless something is wrong.
Hello, I’m aware this is an older video but I do have a question. I got a 1986 F150 with a C6 auto. It calls for type H. From what I understand the new fluid that is compatible is the Mercon V. Is that correct?
Yes, use Mercon V. Thanks for watching
@@WeberAuto awesome. Greatly appreciate it!!!!
I believe there's a Ford TSB with regards to issues with Mercon SP. We can't even get it anymore at our dealership and I've been told by our trans tech that LV superceded it. I don't remember what the issue was with it and I'm really curious about it now.
I´m using AC DELCO´S SEMISYNTHETIC Dexron VI fluid in a WS Toyota Corolla 2010 transmission, for the past 25k miles. Also DEXRON VI in an LT71141 2001 Citroen C5 AL4 for 30k miles. Both are fine and happy. WAY LESS EXPENSIVE.
Haha I’m sure a bunch of folks remember putting type F in a gm auto trans to get a nice firm shift.
LOL, yes, I have heard of that.
@@WeberAuto a race built Turbo Hydromatic 350 I bought called for type F from the builder.
49 minutes about Ford ATF...I've found my people.
LOL, Awesome! Welcome
Glad I'm older & didn't trust that this unopened Dexron III Mercon would go in my Grandma's 87 Mercury Marquis, thanks for this video, I know people my age & way younger that would put anything that said ATF on it. Also looking that the service on the vehicle, the people before kept great records, seems the trans was rebuilt in1998, so I dogged a bullet doing research before making a big mistake. Great video, if you need some DEXRON III, Mercon let me know. lol Thanks.
Just ftr - canada didn't adopt the metric system till 1970 - so I doubt these old litre cans were for the canadian market - though I could be wrong
Hello Professor Kelly. I totally agree with you that the fluid a person uses in their transmission should have the appropriate license / spec number on the bottle but it has really gotten frustrating as I get the feeling that the auto manufactures are purposely making it difficult for other lubricant mfgs to get the proper licensing just to keep their profits high. I had that feeling with both the auto trans fluid and transfer case fluid on my 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee and now with both of the 6 speed manuals in my 2015 Mustang GT and my 2018 Focus ST. I haven't looked much for the Focus yet but in doing a bit of research for the Mustang I could only find one other Castrol fluid that met the Ford spec and it's not avail in the states. How complicated can a manual trans fluid be?
I feel it's nothing more than the old got you by the balls thing. $25 -$30 a quart quit wining! (Smile)
Thank you and Thanks for your feedback
I know there are hydraulic machinery fluids which contain polysiloxane fluids. The polysiloxane componentes do not dissolve into the non-polysiloxane components. They have different densities, the polysiloxanes being the denser. So they will precipitate into two layes if left seated in a bottle therefore one should shake the bottle to blend them together.
When they flow through the hydraulic system they blend together anyway and form a kind of emulsion which reduces de hydrodynamic drag. The emulsified state breaks the viscosity of the fluid mass (or fluid "body") thus reducing the flow drag. However, in the surface layer and mixed layer regions, they both have their local thickness and viscosity, still protecting the material against frictional wear.
Great information, thank you!
I have a 2006 Mazda Mazda3, this car has a 5-speed automatic transmission; the FS5A-EL (Ford FNR5) I want to do a transmission fluid drain and fill and filter change on it. However I can not find the correct fluid for it. The owners manual specifies Mazda M-V fluid, which is equivalent to Ford Motorcraft FNR5 automatic transmission fluid. I can not seem to find any of these fluids. What should I do?
Try amazon Genuine Mazda 0000-77-112E-01 Transmission Fluid www.amazon.com/dp/B00GKGCP5G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ao2xCb1X61DD0
That looks like the right stuff, thanks.
Can u help with this Genuine Ford part no and confirm what it actually is Mercon Multi Purpose AFT XT-2-QDX [from work shop manual ]
Question Prof; do you wish that automotive fluids like ATF and motor oil still came in metal cans? I certainly do. I like the convenience of plastic but there's something very satisfying about stabbing a can with a puncture funnel. Aesthetically, they look much cooler sitting on a shelf than what we have now.
The cans were nice, but modern ATF absorbs moisture from the air (like brake fluid). The plastic bottles let you keep a lid on it when not being used.
No it was not the hydramatic as this arm chair pontificator spouts, but rather the fluid drive technology developed by Buick of the WWII tank transmission developed by Buick for the war effort. This transmission would later be refined in the mid 40's after the war and introduced in the 1948 Buick Roadmaster as the Dynaflow. It operated much as the WWII tank transmission did, through torque multiplication of internal fluid psi. No gears to shift up or down just infinite turbine multiplication pressures. It used Type A GM fluid.
I love how they named the early automatics....just (insert futuristic sounding name or company name here) -o-matic. would like to see a vid on the ford 10 speed..or is it ZF?
Back in the 50's Cessna named the steel spring landing gear on their tricycle gear aircraft "Land-o-matic." Compared to a taildragger I suppose landing is almost automatic.
LOL! I plan on a 10-Speed video later this spring
@@9HighFlyer9 lol
Can type F be used in a 1964 T bird ?
Probably not, Mercon V is backwards compatible to the original fluid used before Type-F was released in 1967
No info for Honda fluids and transmissions?
Not yet, Thanks for watching
Looking forward to a Honda video.
i have right now in my hand. A Texaco F can m2c33f. 16 oz. strange what dad left in the garage.
I didn't hear anything on the AOD or am I wrong?
Thanks for your feedback, it was one of the six transmissions mentioned during the Type-CJ fluid information (Although I did not mention it by name or year 1980). It had an interesting torque converter bypass which eliminated the need for a torque converter clutch.
I remember the awful two speed slip-o-matic transmission in a 1967 Impala that I owned. A buddy of mine had a Turbo-Slide-Ro-Matic in a 70-something Impala that ended up not being a whole lot better after a while. It slipped in 3 speeds. I went back to Fords and manual transmissions for the most part. I eventually got married and had to compromise and let my wife drive automatics. She's happy with her Lincoln.
Thank you, Prof, Kelly for this wonderful information.
Please consider adding a link to the full ATF playlist in the video's description to make it super easy for us to find the earlier parts.
As far as I can tell, this is the link to the start of the series playlist: czcams.com/video/aV-ri4rOHRI/video.html
Thank you, I added a link in the description as well as a few in the video. Have a great day!