World's First Mass Produced Automatic Transmission - Part 1- Introduction and History

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  • The World's First Mass Produced Automatic Transmission - Part 1 - Introduction and History.
    TIMELINE:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:51 General Description
    3:50 Major Components
    7:10 Identification Tag and Patents
    8:05 Earl A. Thompson
    10:40 The Synchronized Manual Transmission
    18:05 The Automatic Safety Transmission
    18:56 The Fluid Coupling and Oliver K. Kelley
    19:40 The 1940 Hydra-Matic
    21:31 Coming up in Part 2 - Internal Guts and Gear Components
    ABOUT US:
    Weber State University (WSU) - Department of Automotive Technology - Transmission Lab.
    This video is part 1 of a 5 part series. This video series tells the development history and shows the actual components and operation of a 1940 - 1955 General Motors Hydra-Matic 4-speed Automatic Transmission.
    This transmission design was used by Oldsmobile, Cadillac, Pontiac, Lincoln, Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Willys, Nash, Hudson as well as the Cadillac-powered M-5 light tank during and other military vehicles World War II.
    This video was created and edited by Professor John D. Kelly at WSU. For a full biography, see www.weber.edu/automotive/J_Kel...
    DONATE TO OUR DEPARTMENT
    Please consider a donation to the Department of Automotive Technology at Weber State University here: advancement.weber.edu/Automotive

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  • @ESPLTD322
    @ESPLTD322 Před 4 lety +20

    This is a very underrated channel. I’ve learned so much from your videos. Keep up the good work!

    • @pootisspangle6636
      @pootisspangle6636 Před 2 lety +1

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  • @dathrevann
    @dathrevann Před 7 lety +32

    Great info especially in realizing that today's technology is built on the hard work and innovation of those that came before.
    Thanks for providing this forum.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +5

      Yes, that is very true. Thank you for watching.

    • @vincescalise4821
      @vincescalise4821 Před 4 lety +3

      We all stand on the shoulders of giants

  • @Neil-ru7kw
    @Neil-ru7kw Před 7 měsíci +1

    Professor , I'm watching this series for the sixth time in the last 7 years . Along with the '63 posi series . I've probably said this before , but , you are THE master . Good health , good times to you and yours , Neil 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @markpuccinelli2316
    @markpuccinelli2316 Před 7 lety +9

    Nice work John!
    When I teach the Automatics 1 course at Skyline College I always show the students this unit. This is where
    it all started..Keep up the good work.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Thank you very much! Best wishes.

  • @8953147
    @8953147 Před 7 lety +5

    Thanks for your deep research into this classic GM transmission, which served in war time and helps us today! Great video series!!

  • @VictorySpeedway
    @VictorySpeedway Před 3 lety +2

    From a historic standpoint, this series is priceless! Automotive technology fascinates many of us, and these videos hit the nail on the head! I'll watch the whole series with great interest. My 1957 Pontiac has a Hydra-Matic, so it will be interesting to learn what goes on inside that massive chunk of cast iron. Many thanks!

  • @fernandoanatomia
    @fernandoanatomia Před 7 lety +6

    Thank you! It's awesome to have so good teaching for free! This is a very high quality material that took you so many time and effort to produce and you are gracefully sharing it with us. Greetings from Brazil!

  • @claytoncherry3192
    @claytoncherry3192 Před 4 lety +1

    Just bought a 1947 Cadillac that has one of these. Love learning about and working on old technology that was state of the art at the time.

  • @Systemrat2008
    @Systemrat2008 Před 7 lety +11

    Fantastic to see you back.
    Great video as normal.
    Thank you.

  • @chekelley6861
    @chekelley6861 Před 7 lety +24

    Great to see you back!!

  • @jasonjoncas5998
    @jasonjoncas5998 Před 6 lety +1

    History is awesome to show the infancy of the development of automatic transmissions and explain their patents. Its like I am back in college and not falling asleep. Kudos John

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 Před 2 lety +2

    The 4 speed AST transmission with the clutch was installed in a handful of 1938 Buicks. My grandfather who regularly would buy clear title salvage cars and repair and resell them ran across one of these just after the War but not really knowing what it was didn't buy it.

    • @InflatablePlane
      @InflatablePlane Před rokem

      Fun fact, Buick was rather salty about basically being forced by GM management to build these units and install them in their vehicles, so when the AST failed, they had no interest in licensing the Hydramatic, and out of spite developed their own unit. The Dynaflow, which due to WW2, wasn’t finalized and introduced until the 1948 model year.

  • @twwtb
    @twwtb Před 2 lety

    Great research and very well told. Thinking about all the thought that went into the improvements over the years reminds me about my personal philosophy as a mechanical engineer. As an older guy now, I have owned all kinds of vehicles from very simple to very complex with all the bells and whistles: from 4 speed manual to a 6 speed DSG transmission. When I have the fancy stuff, I use it and enjoy it. When I don't have it, I don't really miss it. As a long time DIY'er, I tend to prefer simplicity. Great channel...makes me wish I was back in school.

  • @toyotatechMDT
    @toyotatechMDT Před 7 lety +2

    Great research, looking forward to the next part. Thanks John.

  • @SierraJohn
    @SierraJohn Před 4 lety

    Great job demonstrating and explaining. Clear and coherent--unlike most CZcams videos.

  • @djmips
    @djmips Před 7 lety +4

    This is great! Thanks for doing a historical video!

  • @MrGGPRI
    @MrGGPRI Před 6 lety +2

    My dad had a Hydramatic in his 1948 Pontiac, the first year for Pontiac, it always worked perfectly-the sick/weak straight-8 engine not so. We later had a 1955 Star Chief HT (first Pontiac V-8) that had a selector position that would start the car off in 2nd gear, it was listed as the “gas saving” mode.
    In 1962 I had one of the last perfected versions in my Bonneville, performance was awesome with the big 389 V-8 coupled to the smooth-shifting 4-speed Hydramatic. With the introduction of the new 3-speed Turbo-Hydramatic in 1964-65, the 4-speed was gone but B&M carried-on for years with hi-performance versions.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety

      Awesome! Thanks for your feedback!

  • @andrewdbach1
    @andrewdbach1 Před 7 lety +1

    Good to see you back! Love your videos!

  • @AKHyder01
    @AKHyder01 Před 7 lety +1

    Fascinating, and a great educational opportunity. Looking forward to these videos.

  • @FilterYT
    @FilterYT Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks, it is a fascinating technology, history of incremental improvements and revolutionary inventions. Looking forward to part 2, thanks again!

  • @hybrid11111
    @hybrid11111 Před 7 lety +1

    Best videos you ever made!For me, as a GM fan, is a great thing to find out they made the first real automatic transmission.

  • @bowtieguy6870
    @bowtieguy6870 Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for a great series of videos on this.

  • @TM15R
    @TM15R Před 7 lety +5

    My favorite trans, R type, dual range hydra-matic. Thanks for the memories. You could not build that trans today.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +5

      Thank you! I was able to buy a gasket kit, seals, seal rings, and clutches. Bands are even available. I did not see any sources for bushings or any other parts though.

  • @D_J_R_S
    @D_J_R_S Před 5 lety

    Goldmine of a series!

  • @geojor
    @geojor Před 7 lety +1

    wonderful to see you back ...

  • @facesmasher4216
    @facesmasher4216 Před 5 lety +2

    great master minds at work that opened the doors of the future for us
    thanks for your time and your video

  • @brakedd
    @brakedd Před 5 lety +1

    Sweet videos. I'm just getting into auto transmissions and they're a lot less daunting than I previously though. So interesting to hear about the development of all of the things that go into every transmission today.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 5 lety

      Thank you, they are very interesting

  • @snigelnsnigel9572
    @snigelnsnigel9572 Před 7 lety +1

    Thank you Sir, I really enjoy your videos. Looking forward to the next video(s).

  • @jasonbussjaeger1132
    @jasonbussjaeger1132 Před 3 lety

    very well done. better than my class explanation. hope you grow this channel

  • @Shalash87
    @Shalash87 Před 7 lety +1

    Wow! I read the article on Ate up with motor and was wondering would someone ever do a documentary on the topic. Must feel great to be the first! Looking forward to part 2.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Thank you! ateupwithmotor.com/ is incredible. Aaron Seversen has done an amazing amount of research on transmission history. I was thrilled to actually get my hands on one of the original models. Have a great day!

  • @autocadwiz4103
    @autocadwiz4103 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you Sir for producing this valuable video. May your tribe increase. Long live for you.

  • @chuckwin100
    @chuckwin100 Před 5 lety +1

    Quite an interesting story about the first automatic transmission. Such inventive minds often revolutionize the world.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 5 lety

      Yes, very interesting series of events and inventions

  • @TheSason666
    @TheSason666 Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks a lot!!! That's so educational!!!

  • @EVRODON
    @EVRODON Před 3 lety

    Golden information

  • @raymondramirez9177
    @raymondramirez9177 Před 7 lety +2

    The oldest car I remember in my family with an automatic was a 1967 Oldsmobile Cutless Supreme. All of the other cars my Dad and my uncles had since the 1940's were manuals. So there was a cost and gas efficiency difference that kept automatics limited to the buyers who could pay for them in the 1950's and 1960's. But by 1970, many cars had automatics that cost almost the same as a manual, so they became more common. All of my cars are automatics (my first was a 1965 Rambler American). Now I drive a 2014 Ford Fusion Hybrid that has no shifting at all.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +1

      Awesome Feedback, Thank you!

  • @Mman_-_79
    @Mman_-_79 Před 7 lety +1

    Love WeberAuto!!!!! Thanks!

  • @jaroslavstava3704
    @jaroslavstava3704 Před 2 lety +1

    Díky!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 2 lety

      Thank you Jaroslav! I am very appreciative of your support

  • @ppeteking8999
    @ppeteking8999 Před 2 lety

    A true master !!!!!!!!!!

  • @XChaoticComposerX
    @XChaoticComposerX Před 7 lety +1

    love all your videos... btw...

  • @clayz1
    @clayz1 Před 7 lety +1

    CZcams automatically transmitted your videos to me. Ha ha. Great show. Thank you. I can see how the tapered (cone shaped) manual tranmision syncro would be considered as a design element for a full automatic transmission, but that gave way to something better yet for fully automatic operation. It is especially interesting that this r&d was done in the 1930's, not in the 50's as I had always imagined. Am binging on these vids right now.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +1

      Thank you! Neat technology!

  • @nkelly9
    @nkelly9 Před 6 lety +2

    The Ford Model T used planetary gear sets and brake bands in its transmission,
    it also used a planetary gear set in its steering mechanism

  • @NebukedNezzer
    @NebukedNezzer Před 5 lety +1

    I owned one in my 55 Pontiac. Great transmission.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 5 lety

      Cool, thanks for all your feedback

  • @shanimalcontent1840
    @shanimalcontent1840 Před 5 lety +1

    I love you videos and channel

  • @XChaoticComposerX
    @XChaoticComposerX Před 7 lety +1

    Thank You... very informative... :)

  • @superdupergrover9857
    @superdupergrover9857 Před 3 lety +1

    Truly the Model T of automatic transmissions.
    Even has (what now is) the quirks like the model t had compared to the "typical" car.

  • @Wiencourager
    @Wiencourager Před 9 dny

    My dad’s first car was a 41 olds with it. He wasn’t able to use his left foot for a clutch, so he had to have an automatic. This was about 1952-3 when he was in college.

  • @InflatablePlane
    @InflatablePlane Před rokem +2

    The history of many automotive components goes very deep. I always knew the Hydramatic was introduced in the 1940 Oldsmobile, but it wasn’t created in a vacuum. Thanks for giving some background info on its development and history. The history of things like power steering, power brakes, and automotive air conditioning are nearly just as fascinating, but sadly very little is written on them.
    As an aside, I’d love to see any info done on a fascinating semi automatic unit from Reo called the Self Shifter. It’s hard to find any info on it, or any actual photos of surviving units.

  • @LuisHernandez-gm5fm
    @LuisHernandez-gm5fm Před 7 lety +1

    awesome !!!

  • @danielboix7973
    @danielboix7973 Před 7 lety +1

    Gracias por este vídeo

  • @RD2564
    @RD2564 Před 6 lety +1

    John inspired me to look into it, Hydra-Matic in 1940, a 3 planetary 4 forward speeds design, was more than 10 years ahead of everybody else IMO. Buick did Dynaflow which has a torque converter but only one planetary/2 forward speeds, Chevrolet Powerglide was one planetary/2 forward speeds, and those GM divisions would eventually come to heel using the superior technology of Hydra-Matic, Borg Warner / Ford-O-matic was 1 planetary 3 forward speeds Ravegneaux starting in 1951, and Simpson / Torqueflite 2 planetary 3 forward speeds wasn't until 1956. Aaron Severson of ateupbymotor has excellent content on the Hydra-Matic.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety

      Good stuff! Thanks for your feedback. Aaron does a great job!

  • @qwertyword
    @qwertyword Před 7 lety +1

    Thank you for this series!!! I have a 1950 Lincoln with a 337 flathead and the 4 speed hydra-matic. It seems difficult to find info on this trans. So I appreciate your research. Maybe you could help make a shift kit for it :)

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +1

      Thank you! That would be quite a challenge

  • @hd221813
    @hd221813 Před 6 lety +1

    Truly amazing video, as always! By the way, what can be considered the world's first mass produced automatic transmission equipped with a torque converter (pump + turbine + reactor)?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety

      The 1948 Buick Dynaflow 2-speed

  • @bingoberra18
    @bingoberra18 Před 7 lety +1

    Looking forward to the next one. Excuse my poor knowledge of automatics but can or will you also go through the differences between this and the PowerGlide?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +1

      Thank you! Some day I will get my hands on a powerglide and shoot a video. But, the Powerglide is a greatly simplified version of this transmission with only one planetary gear set and a much improved torque converter. Best wishes.

  • @carolhattersley9322
    @carolhattersley9322 Před 4 měsíci

    I believe that use in Buicks was either very late or non-existent, as Buick had their own AT called the Dynaflow , starting I believe in the later 40's, which was much less efficient that the Hydra-matic. I am enjoying your video-very well done. BILL

  • @Bobbygale121
    @Bobbygale121 Před 7 lety +2

    My first vehicle was a 1954 ford f-100. 239 V-8 Engine and a ford-o-matic transmission.
    My Father's construction company bought it -- first ford pickup with an automatic transmission. The old time mechanic's didn't understand the new "slush box" transmissions. When the transmission went out the pickup sat in the yard, till my Dad bought it and installed one of those old manual transmissions with no syncro mesh gears. I was the fifth owner First Gibbons and Reed bought it, Then my Dad, Then my oldest brother, Then my next oldest brother, Then me. I paid $100.00 for the pickup and drove it all through high school. Then.. left it sit in my Dad's yard when I went in the Marines in 66. He sold it for $50.00. lol.

    • @Bobbygale121
      @Bobbygale121 Před 7 lety

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-Series_second_generation

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +1

      That is a great story! Thanks for your feedback!

  • @antiq777
    @antiq777 Před 7 lety +1

    The best

  • @gregp05
    @gregp05 Před 7 lety +1

    great video! is that a toyota 3mz-fe on the right in the back on the engine stand?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Thank you! Yes, it is out of a 2008 Lexus RX 350h

  • @rayfridley6649
    @rayfridley6649 Před 4 lety

    These hydra-matics were also featured in many GMC trucks as well as the cars.

  • @georgemartin1436
    @georgemartin1436 Před 5 lety +1

    This channel is great. John seems like a caring individual. Would he allow me to LIVE in the shop? I think I'd like that.

  • @zfloz9895
    @zfloz9895 Před 2 lety

    Hello!
    How about using, a motorcycle engine oil, that is mixed with the gearbox and the wet clutch of the motorcycle, in a ATF transmission?

  • @kylekruszewski1078
    @kylekruszewski1078 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you so much for posting this video! I’m in the process of buying a 1951 Pontiac Chieftain and am trying to learn everything I can about it.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety +1

      You are welcome! Thanks for your feedback!

  • @teflonpan115
    @teflonpan115 Před 3 lety

    What's a good book to read about Hydra-Matics or just maybe the history of automatic transmission in general?

  • @SP101357
    @SP101357 Před 7 lety +1

    I have one in my shop now. It is in a 1953 Kaiser Dragon L6 flat head. Looks all O.E.
    K52 was when the transmission was made. My customer wants to make the car a daily driver.
    I am 62 years old and have knowledge about most of this car ( just have to burn the cob webs off of my memory ) and service manuals to cover the rest.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +1

      That is awesome! Best wishes on your project!

    • @johnsaum1260
      @johnsaum1260 Před 4 lety

      Daily driver? Good luck!

  • @HOTHUDSON54
    @HOTHUDSON54 Před měsícem

    6 degrees of separation? Funny, I attended Weber State during my tenure in the USAF at Hill AFB... and I am a Hudson owner. Hudson was a Hydramatic user...

  • @nagiw42
    @nagiw42 Před 7 lety +2

    Brilliant video as always! Why is there no rust on anything if it's cast iron?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +1

      Thank you!, It was coated with 3 layers of paint and a lot of old oil and grease. We bead blasted it clean and coated it with WD-40

  • @jfbcoun
    @jfbcoun Před 7 lety +1

    My late mother drove her mother's '37 Olds as a teen, and
    she said that the car had a semi-automatic transmission. Though a clutch pedal was still used for
    starting and stopping, she said that the transmission shifted very much like the
    Hydra-Matics that she drove in the '40's and '50's. The idea with this four-speed transmission
    was to shift from Low (1-2) to High (3-4), but she said that driving in High
    alone was fine, and I think that transmission in High must have shifted
    1-3-4.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Thanks for the feedback and great story. I believe 1st or second gear was manually shifted; 3rd and 4th gears were automatically shifted. So 1-3-4 makes the most sense. Have a great day!

    • @jfbcoun
      @jfbcoun Před 7 lety +1

      My first car was a '53 Studebaker with Automatic Drive. It used a torque converter and started in 2nd
      gear in normal driving. It had an unusual feature that I haven't encountered since. You could take your foot off the brakes at a stoplight or sign, and the car would not creep. There was an electric locking mechanism that locked the brakes until the accelerator was tapped.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Very cool! Thank you

    • @jfbcoun
      @jfbcoun Před 7 lety +1

      Found this: www.hemmings.com/blog/2008/04/13/sia-flashback-almost-automatic/

  • @GhettoWagon
    @GhettoWagon Před 7 lety +1

    I think my old 56 olds Super rocket 88 has the same transmission. (had if its not still around) It has a weird gear shift pattern. And the S " super" gear for 4th

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Fascinating stuff! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @RayDAider1
    @RayDAider1 Před 6 lety +1

    This is a fascinating series. Thanks. My Stepfather started out in skilled trades at the Detroit Transmission plant which was on Riopelle Street in Detroit sometime in the '40's, then moved to Livonia, MI, then on to the Hydra-Matic Willow Run Plant where he retired in about 1985, or so. I worked at Hydra-Matic Willow Run, then later became GM Powertrain from 1977 to 2008. >>>
    The year was 1977. I operated the cut open machine for the 400 THM torque converter in Dept. 433, Torus Division at Hydra-Matic Willow Run. The converters were rejects from testing; they were removed from racks, and were hand placed, hub down, into a massive chuck that clamped around the outside of the impeller body, (which we simply called the "pump") with the cover, pilot and lugs facing upwards. A plexiglass door was pulled down and the machine was cycled. A thick triangular cutting tool was indexed into the weld as the unit spun. The cycle time was about a minute and a half or so...it seemed. You knew it was almost done when ATF fluid began to get flung on the cover door of the machine. The machine cycle ended. Then you removed it, and the converter cover was separated, or almost separated from the impeller housing but still held by a bare "thread" of the weld, sometimes....then you banged the thing on a metal fixture, if you had to......to pop it open on a table that had a grated surface so that the fluid could drain. Then the internal parts were separated, and sorted down their respective conveyors to be sent thru a washer and put into tubs to be sent back their original department for inspection...and rebuilt...if possible. The bearings were never reused and were junked.
    Did I mention that the THM400 torque converter, filled with ATF, is heavier than most torque converters?
    The production on that job was about 200 units per shift...it seems. My partner and I figured out the most time efficient method to do that job, the idea was to keep the machine running with as little time between cycles as possible, and working together, we were able to "bust ass" and get 200 units by lunch time. Then go hide. The boss was happy because we always got the count. It was hard, heavy, filthy work, and guessed what we smelled like when we went home every day? Transmission fluid...you can bet. One thing that used to happen, was that occasionally when the cutting tool got really dull, the chips coming off the operation, would get very hot, and cause a fire inside the machine, aided by the ATFluid igniting...it was so hot. We would look down the aisle to see if the boss was around....and enjoy the fire for a minute as it grew before we reached for the extinguisher...heh.
    Fun times.
    In the 3 years I spent in Dept. 433, I did most of the operations making the impeller unit, and can remember the step by step manufacturing process in fairly great detail....Then spent some time in Dept 431 which was the torque converter assembly dept, where they were assembled, welded together, filled with fluid, balanced and tested.
    I have been retired from Hydra-Matic Willow Run since 2008, and spent several years making planetary pinion gears...and many other jobs. They closed in 2010, and the building was torn down in 2014. It was originally the Willow Run B-24 bomber plant, built by Henry Ford...in 1941...so much history there...Thanks for reading this.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety

      Thank you so much for your fantastic story and more transmission history! I toured the Hydra-Matic Willow Run assembly plant in 1997. They were assembling 4L80-E transmissions on two lines. It was an amazing tour for us GM Training center instructors. One funny thing I remember is the machine that was making valves for the valve body. After they were made, the machine shot them several feet into a giant container. This is funny to me because as instructors we were always told to be very careful with the valves and never to drop them. Thanks again for your wonderful feedback, it is fascinating to me. Best wishes!

    • @RayDAider1
      @RayDAider1 Před 6 lety +1

      Thinking about that further I may have exaggerated the expected production on the cut open operation. It was more like 200 units per shift, not 400, as I recall, and doing the math...I've corrected that above.
      One other thing that you may be very interested in: The THM400 torque converter that we made back then for the Rolls Royce contract....After the vanes were inserted into the pump housing and crimped into place with their retainer, we had a special welder that spot welded ALL of the contact points, or the 'bumps' that you see on the outside of the converter pump from the outside, securing all of the vanes in the unit as a very solid piece. The result was a coppery looking finish from the heat of the spot welds, and the thing rang like a bell ! Of course significantly fewer of those exceedingly robust units were produced, and were a special order for the RR contract. An existing RR torque converter from that era could verify this information.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety

      That is awesome, thank you!

  • @jackcampbell2479
    @jackcampbell2479 Před 5 měsíci

    How many bearings do a small block Chevy have?

  • @chamberizer
    @chamberizer Před rokem

    I wonder if a "Model T " transmission could have been automated?
    It had planetary gears & bands.
    Actually it had a very interesting transmission with the triple gears mounted on the flywheel.
    Have you done a Video on the Model T transmission?

  • @claughton1345
    @claughton1345 Před 7 lety +8

    This is a long neglected and virtually unknown - to auto enthusiasts - story. All you say is so, but the inspiration for the original Hydro-Matic came from the (British) Daimler Company.
    Charles Kettering attended the London Motor Show each autumn, and about 1931 purchased a mid-range Daimler because of its fluid flywheel and epicyclic transmission.
    Eventually the car showed up in Detroit and was studied by GM. Nothing inspiring was found except for the transmission. The essential issue was that this transmission was operated by a series of binary actions, which did not require finesse.
    Kettering realised that all that was necessary to fully automate a transmission of this character was a "brain" to control the timing of these operations. Design, development and testing of the automatic control system took about five years. Carried over from the Daimler, in particular, was the four speed epicyclic 'box controlled by bands and multi-plate clutches, the fluid flywheel and the column-mounted shifter, allowing three front passengers. Automatic adjustment of the bands was dropped, presumably as an economy measure.
    I'm a London-based fellow transmission nut!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +2

      Thanks for your feedback, that is great information!

    • @ThunderAppeal
      @ThunderAppeal Před 5 lety

      That is an amazing insight in to a piece of history.
      Interestingly the transmission in the video has multiple patents, I suspect that the basis of the designs of what was patent originated from the Diamler transmission design.
      In todays world I have to wonder if that same kind of design theft and then patenting would be permitted.

  • @irey1978
    @irey1978 Před 7 lety +1

    Was This Auto Made Before The 2 Speed GM Power Glide Hydromatic?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Yes, the Powerglide was not produced until 1953. Thanks for watching

  • @johnsaum1260
    @johnsaum1260 Před 4 lety +2

    My dad told me that hydramatic was introduced on some 1939 oldsmobiles.

    • @daviddavis5689
      @daviddavis5689 Před 3 lety

      I thnik that first one required shifting with not clutch use.

  • @NoosaHeads
    @NoosaHeads Před 3 lety +1

    The auto transmission that was on my father's new 1959 Ford Zodiac and subsequent cars such as a Rover 3.5 liter, Jaguar 4.2 XJ6) seemed smoother and more pleasant to use than modern electronically controlled auto gearboxes. I have little doubt that modern systems are more fuel efficient but have we actually lost something whilst auto transmissions have evolved? A friend (in the 1970s) had a Jensen Interceptor, with the Chrysler Torque-Flite gearbox and it's the only automatic I've ever driven that I prefer over a manual. Please tell me if I'm being stupidly romantic about older technology.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 3 lety

      I know what you are talking about. Thanks for watching

  • @NebukedNezzer
    @NebukedNezzer Před 5 lety +1

    you do not have to double clutch a manual transmission shifting up in the gears. ONLY when down shifting(think about it).
    yes I have driven them. also the model T ford was like an automatic transmission in that it did not need synchronizers and shifted like a modern automatic transmission manually operated(user friendly).

  • @pikincartucho7925
    @pikincartucho7925 Před 7 lety +1

    Su inventor fue Ladislao Biró, argentino.

  • @_ENOC
    @_ENOC Před 6 lety +1

    Any videos on the jetaway hydra-matic 315🙏.????????

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety

      I have one on the workbench right now. I hope to have a new video after this semester. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @_ENOC
      @_ENOC Před 6 lety

      WeberAuto thank you! Anxiously awaiting 👍👍

    • @_ENOC
      @_ENOC Před 6 lety

      Please record a video, you will be the first if you include assembly. I cannot find any videos of this trans being rebuilt

  • @daviddavis5689
    @daviddavis5689 Před 3 lety +1

    My father had 55 olds with one. That car was a tank itself.

  • @musamahdi8285
    @musamahdi8285 Před 4 lety

    Between horses and the first car man came into contact with alien technology because the leap was amazing

  • @worseto1
    @worseto1 Před 5 lety +1

    Fluids are the life blood of a car.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 5 lety

      Yes they are, Thanks for your feedback

  • @dogman8436
    @dogman8436 Před 2 lety

    Great video and I love your channel. But NO original Hydra-Matics in any Buicks. Full size Buicks we’re Dynaflow thru 1963. Then TH400 and smaller units in smaller Buicks.

  • @DrJugne
    @DrJugne Před 7 lety +1

    The US patent numbers from the plaque are:
    Pat.No. File Name Issued Title
    RE21844 1932 Vetter 1941 Automatic Change Speed Gear Mechanism
    2176138 1937 Kelley 1939 Combination fluid turbo clutch and variable speed gearing
    2193304 1935 Thompson 1940 Change-Speed Mechanism and Control
    2193305 1937 Thompson 1940 Brake and Clutch Capacity Control
    2193524 1937 Thompson 1940 Change Speed Gearing and Control
    2195605 1934 Thompson 1940 Change-Speed Transmission and Control
    2204872 1938 Thompson 1940 Change Speed Gearing and Control
    2211233 1939 Kelley 1940 Fluid Flywheel Gearing Arrangement
    2221393 1938 Carnegie 1940 Variable Speed Control
    2270536 1940 Lenning 1942 Transmission Drive Cooling System
    2285760 1933 Thompson 1942 Change Speed Gearing with Automatic Overdrive
    2362418 1937 Thompson 1944 Clutch and Gearing Control
    2377696 1941 Kelley 1945 Transmission Drive
    2380680 1940 Thompson 1945 Clutch and Control
    2430258 1940 Thompson 1947 Rotary Hydraulic Coupling of the Turbine Type
    All are available via a Google search.
    Great video series!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Great work! Even more interesting to me are the patent application dates, they tell the true story of who did what and when.

    • @DrJugne
      @DrJugne Před 7 lety +1

      You are right. I added year of each patent application.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety

      Excellent! One interesting comment about the RE21844. The RE means it was re-issued. The original patent was actually filed November 11, 1931 by John Michael Vetter from the Hague in the Netherlands and then reassigned to General Motors. GM renewed/reissued the patent before it expired on June 24, 1941.

  • @deletethis5489
    @deletethis5489 Před 4 lety

    it was also used in GMC trucks

  • @paulhayman3942
    @paulhayman3942 Před 2 lety

    Best of all is The automatic transmission enabled every dope and dill to get get behind the of a car who can't drink a manual car

  • @pauljanssen7594
    @pauljanssen7594 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Show me the first transmission fluid was made whale oil especially the Ford transmissions it was a type f they had to have oil that would lubricate the bearings bushings and stuff but the clutches would have to grip

  • @jasonjoncas5998
    @jasonjoncas5998 Před 6 lety +1

    Is that not crazy fwd transmissions have the same configuration with side mounted valve bodies. got rid of that design in the late 90s due to drainback.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety

      Thanks for your feedback. Almost all FWD transaxles use the side mounted valve bodies today

  • @josecuevas8602
    @josecuevas8602 Před 2 lety

    My guess this is the transmission described in the Movie "Grease" "Hydromatic"...

  • @jonienglish3231
    @jonienglish3231 Před 6 lety +1

    Earl Thomson would have been amazed at the technology Now in 2018 with 10 speed auto

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety

      Yes, thank you for your feedback!

  • @julioparra3113
    @julioparra3113 Před 6 lety +1

    Dynaflow please !!!!

  • @jimgrazulis3542
    @jimgrazulis3542 Před 3 lety

    Buick never used the Hydra-Matic. Buick used Dynaflow from 1948 thru 1963.

  • @jackcampbell2479
    @jackcampbell2479 Před rokem

    I have family 1953 caddy I restored it has all plane bearing like most engines no roller bearing

  • @Wallace823
    @Wallace823 Před 6 lety +1

    You mentioned that Buick used the Hydra-Matic along with Cadillac and Oldsmobile and others. Buick had their own transmission ( Dynaflo ) which was much different. Buick had many things of their own like the gas pedal starter and torque tube rear axle. Buick shared their Dynaflo with Cadillac for a while due to a factory fire.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety +2

      Thank you for your feedback. Of course Cadillac would not tell their customers that they had a Buick transmission, so they called it the "Twin Turbine" transmission. I actually have a 1948 Buick Dynaflow transmission I am working on and will shoot a video on its operation as well. As far as I can tell the Buick Dynaflow was the first 2-speed automatic in mass production. The Chevrolet Powerglide that came along a few years later was basically a copy of the Buick Dynaflow transmission. Have a good day

  • @KKovacsUSN
    @KKovacsUSN Před 6 lety +1

    If they were using a single digit month they may have used 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c.

  • @julioparra3113
    @julioparra3113 Před 6 lety +1

    Buick has their own transmission Dynaflow. .'cause buick engineering dept don't like Hydra-matics because the shifting was very rough for Buicks, they looked for something smoother. ...

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 6 lety +1

      Yes, I have one here on my bench from a 1948 Roadmaster. I hope to have a video on it this summer.

    • @julioparra3113
      @julioparra3113 Před 6 lety

      WeberAuto thank you, thank you very much. ..can't wait...

  • @keithrichards4296
    @keithrichards4296 Před 5 měsíci

    About “the group of people that came together” to buy the invention from 2 Brazilians called Jose Braz and Fernando Lemos.

  • @brianbranson2306
    @brianbranson2306 Před 3 lety

    how you gona talk first auto-trans , with out mentioning the M5 Stuart tank. so why does our Stuart tank grind so bad when trying to put in reverse ?

  • @andre_fbp
    @andre_fbp Před 5 měsíci

    What about the two Brazilian engineers who designed it?

  • @marcelorohrig4344
    @marcelorohrig4344 Před 7 lety +2

    In fact, the first automatic transmission, using hidraulic fluids, was made by two brazilian engineers in 1932. So it was sold to General Motors.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +2

      That may be true, but this is the world's first mass-produced automatic transmission. Thanks for your feedback.

    • @marcelorohrig4344
      @marcelorohrig4344 Před 7 lety +1

      Ok, but, the one made by the brazilians don't configure a "step" to get to the first mass-produced automatic transmission?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 7 lety +2

      I do not know anything about the Brazilian transmission or the patent purchase claim. I have read that it supposedly happened, but I cannot find any actual proof of it. I do know that the GM Hydra-Matic transmission is the first mass-produced automatic transmission. The first patent on the identification tag of this transmission is actually from a man named John Michael Vetter from the Hague in the Netherlands. The patent was filed November 11, 1931 and then reassigned to General Motors. GM renewed/reissued the patent before it expired on June 24, 1941. See patent USRE21844.

    • @guidomoises
      @guidomoises Před 7 lety

      Marcelo Rohrigc do not expect the Americans to recognize that both the automatic transmission and the airplane were invented by Brazilians.
      They will never accept that.

    • @guidomoises
      @guidomoises Před 7 lety

      The first automatic transmission using hydraulic fluid "may have been" developed in 1932 by two Brazilian engineers, José Braz Araripe and Fernando Lehly Lemos; subsequently the prototype and plans were sold to General Motors who introduced it in the 1940 Oldsmobile as the "Hydra-Matic" transmission

  • @lamarrharding4776
    @lamarrharding4776 Před 5 lety

    What about the Dodge brothers with the planetary transmission, that Henry Ford used in the Model T. The Federal Government killed the transmission when they mandated a H pattern sliding gear transmission. 1927 Model A. My 1948 DeSoto had a HyDrive., or my Hudson with a selonoid,Vacumm clutched and shifted transmision.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 5 lety

      This was the world's first mass produced fully automatic transmission, not the first transmission to use a planetary gear set. Thanks for your feedback.

  • @shanimalcontent1840
    @shanimalcontent1840 Před 5 lety +1

    Modle Ts had planetary gearboxes

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  Před 5 lety

      Yes they did, manually engaged though

    • @shanimalcontent1840
      @shanimalcontent1840 Před 5 lety

      @@WeberAuto yah its it's how they where able to support a reverse gear.