I was Spiritually Abused
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2023
- Please read this article: julieroys.com/exclusive-forme...
Sadly, Jeremy Riddle, Alan Scott, and some of the other pastors/leaders at Dwelling Place Anaheim (formerly known as Vineyard Anaheim) are wolves in sheep's clothing. I'm very appreciative to Julie Roys / The Roy's Report for covering the broader story (article linked above).
P.S. This video contains only about 2.5% of my individual story detailing the abuse and gaslighting.
#jeremyriddle #spiritualabuse #dwellingplaceanaheim #exvangelical
I made a follow up video that contains the audio recordings I mentioned, as well as much more evidence of wrongdoing. Check it out here:
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Debolt você foi o único baterista que eu senti que tocava não pela fama ou religiosidade, mas sim para Deus e para edificar aqueles que o ouvem, e sobre a musicalidade foi um dos melhores que já ouvi, desejo que Deus o abençoe e te dê forças para se reconstruir espiritualmente e um dia adorar Ele sendo baterista novamente e postar os vídeos para nós te acompanharmos.
Ele foi um revolucionista
I am 42 years old and grew up in a church like this. I stopped going and vowed to never attend a church ever again. I prayed everyday and still loved God and had relationship with him. Long story short, I found a amazing pastor and started going again.
The things I went through as a child still affect me today. I can totally feel what you're saying. I love your ministry and your heart. Stay strong brother. Hope to see more videos soon
Hey Noah, thank you for having the courage to speak out. In one aspect it’s sad to hear the continual depravity of mankind even in the church, but also encouraging because it shows no one is perfect and the need for Jesus is equally so much greater. I was born and raised in Irvine and have witnessed everything you have said. I’ll be praying for you and your wife, and that your ministry continues to bless the Christian drumming community. Much love from Switzerland, Joe
DeBolt drumming has been such a huge inspiration for me. I've seen so many of your Instagram videos, followed your tutorials and drum covers... A pastor/leader in church isn't supposed to put you down, but lift you up. This page has reached so many people because of the passion you have to spread the truth, give love, teach, and inspire musicians around the world.
These words were tough to hear, and I can't even imagine the pain you went through to speak up. You've got courage.
DeBolt drumming WILL NOT FAIL. Because GOD sees what you're doing. The people you have impacted, we see what you're doing
We stand with you! Much love man... ♥
Noah, you and your wife are so loved and I am so sorry to hear this. I’ve been following you for a few years now and also got to know Debrianna when we did the 18 inch journey together-I’ve been inspired by both of you and pray the Lord will continue to heal and comfort you as you share your story. Appreciate your courage to speak out and share, especially given the platform it’s likely to extend to. Pray you feel encouraged today seeing how many people your ministry has impacted and blessed.
An encouraging word for you Noah, I hope you read this.
Ive had the privilege to play a set with you sometime in 2018/2019 at Centerpoint church Murrieta. I was pretty new to bass at the time and I sucked. But playing with you stretched me so much and inspired me to improve on my craft. You gave me an encouraging word and said something along the lines of, "keep investing in yourself and your playing." That meant so much to me, really. I had a few more years of playing and gotten to play on a few projects and gig at various churches in my area. I would also play along to some of your Send Brazil drum cam videos all the time and it was so much fun. I pray the lord would bring healing to you and your wife and that you would feel him close to you. I also pray that you could find your passion again for music and drumming and your ministry. I think the ministry you had was a beautiful thing and it means a lot to have a community of worshipful musicians together.
Thank you for blessing not only myself, but all the other musicians as well. Donavan and I are praying for you. ⚡
Hey Noah, I never comment on videos, but I probably started watching your stuff 6 months ago, and got super inspired by all the drum cam videos and tutorials. It's been a huge blessing, and then I noticed that you haven't posted anything in a year a couple weeks ago. I was actually praying for you and your family last week after watching "This is Amazing Grace but an 8th note ahead" (hilarious btw). The Lord just put you guys on my heart. I help pretty heavily in ministry (and drum) for a church of 50 who probably. We believe in the continuation of the the gifts of the Spirit. But dramatically different that the abuse you've experienced with it. So that's why I'm writing this long comment!
Anyway, I'm so sorry for the abuse you've experienced. I was pretty shocked about the "worry about being a Levite in the house of God" thing. But when I read the article about the body types, I was horrified. Honestly, the doctrine I saw from that article was straight up satanic. Complete antichrist, and if that's ever present in a ministry, the WHOLE church needs to be brought to repentance. Prophecy is something that has to be treated with the upmost sober minded and humility. Because if done with pride (which it so often is), and without accountability to the body of Christ and the Word, this is what happens. It should always be subject for interpretation and correction of others in the church.
Back to the "worry about being a Levite in the house of God" bit that you spoke of for Jeremy. I LOVE Spirit-led, spontaneous, powerful worship. I believe you and your wife do too. And I enjoy Jeremy Riddle's worship, BUT I do see an obsession with "the glory" that creates such an unreachable bar that is set (and sometimes we set for ourselves). I don't know him, and so I could be completely wrong here, so please correct me if if I am. And Jeremy could also totally not believe this at all, but this is just how I interpret that interaction. So if that's what he said, it needs loving correction.
This idea that we need to worship like David did, like the Levites did, to honor God. It sounds really nice when you say it, and is Biblical, but trying to symbolically (and almost literally) put it into practice, we would be so burdened by that Old Testament law that we would be in constant fear and stress to preform and appease God like Israel was. They try to connect the Old Covenant with the New, and try to force the practice that in reality, is NOT how the Levites worshiped and served. They served from a position of works to appease God. Hebrews 9 talks about how that Old Covenant was not enough, and that this New Covenant with Jesus is what we are living in now. We are suppose to come BOLDY to the throne for His grace.
We Christians should desire to actively walk in holiness, to be abandoned in worship, and to seek the presence of God in worship. But if the cost is benching people because they aren't "abandoned enough," and ostracizing those who may be learning to walk out their faith, then we are walking in pride. Trying to create a "atmosphere" that is built on works, when originally we want it to be built on the Spirit.
And side note, I'm saying this from experience. I want to SO BADLY serve and help set the stage for people to feel engaged in worship. I just want to do my part in making a space for the Holy Spirit to move. But that's also the problem. It's not by what I do! Even if I do everything I can. Pray, fast, repent, speak in tongues, or whatever. It's by HIS power, not by mine. And when we set the requirement for our volunteers to be "you need to worry about being a Levite" it puts all the responsibility on us. When in reality, it's by what Jesus did on the cross, not about what I can do.
This was spiritual abuse, and leadership needs to be humble and repent. It's not condemnation on anyone, but there is a massive pruning that needs to take place.
Anyway back to you Noah. You're an inspiration, and you have a market cornered in the worship drumming space that is so valuable to so many. Your style is incredible. Your ability to teach IS a gift of the Spirit. And for someone to tell you that it's not from God you gotta say "get behind me!" Again, I'm so sorry this happened to you and your family. Your heart is clearly for Jesus, and though your ground has been rocked, your faith is still openly present. I pray that you are able to get plugged back into a church that can walk with you while you heal. And fan the flame of your gifts instead of quenching it.
And for those watching. Character always above gift. Drumming is Noah's gift, but being right mentally and spiritually is way more important. Unfortunately, worship volunteering can quickly become a thing where the talent and gift is valued way above the well being of the person. Take same time to heal, but know that the work that God started for you, He is faithful to complete it. Your an inspiration bro, keep going!
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Your play style and takes on songs have both influenced my drumming and influenced the environments I have played in over the last several years, so I thank you for it! In retrospect, the journey between your "things are changing" video to now is a clear example of what something of this severity can and shouldn't do to anyone. It's that kind of selfish influence that drives people away from the church and tarnishes the reputation of we believe is God's good intention for community. Praying the Lord will continue to mend both you and your wife in compassion and use y'all as a beacon for others experiencing similar injustices.
Man, Im really sorry to hear that! I have gone through similar situations with two churches now that I have loved so deeply so I know some of the stresses and feelings and shame that comes from that, heck I'm STILL dealing with some of it. Even still, I can only imagine what you guys must be going through. I have always enjoyed your content, and I'm not even a drummer (LOL!). I just enjoy watching you worship and I try to learn as much as I can. Its inspiring watching you go.
I personally love your heart to love people as thats why I'm here, that is, loving the Lord. Because someone took one second of their time almost 10 years ago to talk to me and love on me and that changed my life forever. Ever since then I've made it my goal to love people like that as well so man I feel for you. My heart breaks truly
Please dont stop loving people. The world, and even the Christian faith, needs people like you and your wife.
Idk man maybe this wont mean anything, especially from a stranger who only knows 2.5% of yalls story so take it for a grain of salt. The Lord brought me to this realization a couple years ago that he hadn't been calling me to play guitar but instead he was calling me to love and encourage people. He was just using my guitar as one of my avenues to do that. Thats not to say you wont get to do what you love again when you're ready (or even when you love it again). The main thing I'm trying to say is that the Lord has called you to something and he's still got plans, good plans, for you and your wife. Stay faithful and he will lead you through this. He will finish the healing that has already begun if you continue let him. It wont be easy at times but he's got you guys.
Idk maybe all that doesn't mean anything to you man but I'll be praying for you guys!
Thank you so much for sharing. My family and I are part of a vineyard church in church in Scotland and are also trying to make sense of allegations regarding Mike Pilavachi. I understand it is difficult to speak out but your honesty and openness is appreciated.Mathis feels like such a difficult time for the church as a whole as more and more leaders are being called our for their abuses and it is only the bravery of people like yourself to speak out that let us know. I pray God blesses all that you hope to achieve in the future and look forward to hearing your drumming again in a positive, supportive environment.
Thank you for having the courage to speak about this. Your testimony will help many others. I hope that it also helps you to continue processing and healing from that season. May God bless you and your wife and give you peace and comfort thru all of this. You are not alone. You are loved. We are here for you.
My heart breaks for you, man. I'm so sorry you guys were hurt by others in the name of God.
hahhahah dramatic hypersensitive, and weak stupid Christians... That's why I stopped being a Christian for people as dramatic and crying and hypersensitive and emotionally weak
i love that you never lost sight of the Lord through all of this💛 You are in my thoughts and prayers Mr. & Mrs.DeBolt
Dude, so sorry this happened to you. Never give up keep getting the help you need and I believe you will fully recover and everything will somehow workout for the good.
Que triste amigo, lamentável isso ter chegado a esse ponto. 😢...fui no The Send , evento realizado aqui no Brasil e curti bastante vc tocando bateria, tocou com bastante entusiasmo e com ótima performance. Espero que se recupere dessa situação. Saiba que Jesus está com vc o tempo todo, todos nós precisamos de Cristo, inclusive esses líderes. Diante Dele todos são pequenos!
Hey just want to say that you have been such an encouragement and inspiration to me as a drummer. I'm not talking about your skills, rudiments, etc., I'm talking about YOU. You have such a cheerful and creative energy ; it helped me love playing drums and to think it's fun.
Healing is a process, and I have no doubt therapy and time will help. I pray that God be with you through this time. You have an entire community behind your back!
Here for you, bro. You inspire me as a fellow drummer, and I wish I had your gifts. I understand and have experienced spiritual abuse as well, so I know how much it can lower you spiritually. Praying for you Noah, hoping God leads you to Him in His steadfast love and grace and brings people who can show you that to help you heal.
man - i’m so sickened and sad to hear this, i couldnt believe what i was hearing
i’ll be praying for you guys ❤
i believe it 100%
So sorry to hear what you have experienced Noah, really praying for God to heal you and doubly strengthen your heart for and within Him! Praying that He will use what has been broken, not only to restore it, but to make it even better - that is, whatever the next steps He has planned for you and your wife. I have personally really enjoyed and benefitted from the work that you have put into DeBoltDrumming, but only God decides the future of this ministry. Really praying for God to pull you in closer and grow you and your wife through this trial, and all others affected too! 🙏
It's a shame to hear that you have lost your passion for playing the drums - I think that it's such an amazing way to worship God, and I'm sure that you felt the same way in the past. If it is His will to bring back this passion, I pray that He will make it burn even brighter than before. But whatever the result is with your drumming, I just pray that any passion that will stir up within you in the future will be one from God that increases your passion FOR GOD!!
Noah! A good friend of mine mentioned your story at work today and I saw you and your math hat and immediately remembered meeting you at Canopy in Costa Mesa. I remember talking to you just before you left for a job for your wife. I had no idea this was all going on behind the scenes just before you were at Canopy (maybe even during). I can't even begin to imagine how damaging this was and still is for the two of you.
Solid message, honesty, and props for directly calling things out for what they are. My wife and I will 100% be praying for you guys and honestly if you'd hit me with your venmo link I'd love to support the therapy fund the little I can as I hope you are getting the support you need in what I can only imagine to be a really discombobulating and hard time. Either way wish you all the best.
Good to hear from you man, I hope you’re well. We were feeling the pain silently and unaware of what had actually transpired while we were there. It’s crazy looking back.
@@DeBoltDrumming ““Come to me, all of you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, because I am lowly and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.”
Matthew 11:28-29
What your going through doesn’t reflect the character of Jesus❤
Thank you for Sharing your Story. I wish you all streignth and blessing you need for overcoming the pain you've suffered.
Keep walking with Jesus. He's the only One we will give account to. 🙏❤👑
Noah, first off, I want you to know you’ve inspired me and your videos helped and encouraged me as a drummer. I am so grateful for what you have done.
I am so sorry that you have lost all desire to get behind a kit. I am also deeply saddened to hear this story. I am praying for you, and stand behind you in solidarity. I hope you and your wife can find healing from this.
This story is very sad. I’m glad you’ve started the healing journey, brother it’s hard but you’ll be whole again. Telling the world was actually a really good idea for your own well-being, glad you put this out there. Keep your chin up, guy. Things can only get better from here 👍
Dude, so sorry for you! This is horrible when those "more spiritual" human beings uses their power and authority to descriminate you and makes you feel low and not good enough. I had to face the same thing in my church bro. My ex-pastor is such a abusive person but nobody in the church can speak to him or have impact on him. I was sevre to whole church in worship, preaching, all other events like baptisms, funerals, etc. and after 5 years I reached out to speak with him in private conversation where I communicate to him that I'm not fine with situation in the church etc. To make it short - he summary my whole crying from broken heart with words "slave do not ask. Slave do the job." That's it. What the ... is this bullshit man. And I felt guilty in the first moment but then I realised how sick is this place. I was destroyed psychicaly, mentaly, my faith ruined, my marriage is finished (I was married to his dauther). Man, those situations are serious, horrible things. I hope God will revange to those people all hurst they caused to us.
I am so sorry Noah Thank you so much for keeping us updated. I was so worried about you.
Praying for you man. I'm only 17 but you've been a huge part my childhood and I wouldn't have come so far without the videos you posted. Man will always fail but God never will. Be strong and stay close to God. Even when you don't feel it He's working. Love you man⚡️❤️. Hoping for a quick and full recovery in your life and the peace and joy that God has fills you🙏🙏🙏. We are all here for you and love you!!!
You have wisdom for only being 17! "Be strong and stay close to God." I pray those words never leave you because God never will. You give me hope in your generation, praise God!
Hey!
Thank you for sharing. I was spiritually abused a year ago as well. I’m sorry that happened. It sucks, but I’m glad you are out of that toxic environment. Also glad I’m not alone in healing from that darkness. May god guide us and bring us closer to him.
Genuinely love you man. I bought Jeremy's book "The Reset" for my team to read together. I couldn't get through the first few pages and I think I now know why. Going to share this with my team. We see this all too often. Leaders are beholden to God and his word alone. You did the right thing and I know you're in God's hands for what comes next. Thanks for speaking out.
Me pone re triste esta situación , aprendí y empecé a tocar la batería en la iglesia gracias a tus videos. se que vas a poder superar esta situación , hoy duele pero va pasar todo , Dios usa lo malo para hacer algo increíble en tu corazón , fuerza amigo 💪🏾
Praying for you and your family brother. My family and I just went through the same thing last August. Don’t stop forgiving, don’t stop healing. Love you man
Spiritual abuse is far to common in the church. Thank you for the courage to speak out against these Godless forces.
May God continue to bless you and your wife. ✝️
Bro we’ll said 🔥
This is rarely ever talked about thank you for your honesty 🙌🏽
Hey Noah, thank you for sharing your story. My heart hurts for you and your wife and others in this situation. Your videos have always been a great source of inspiration for me as a drummer/musician on a worship team...
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I will be praying for you and your family 🙏🏾
Noah, I’m so sorry this has happened to you. The fact that they didn’t want you around because you love loving people is an unimaginable thought to me. Your loving personality is what brought me to SJA 10 years ago when you invited me. Your passion for what you do is what inspired me to audition for worship at SJA as well as play there and for the last church I played at. I have no doubt you’ll find a church that will love and accept you for what you bring to the table. I hope everything. Turns out for the better!
Best of luck brother,
Jason
Whew. I went through the same thing with the same ppl. Glad you got out.
I’m sorry but do you mind explaining what happened to you?
Bro, it's a bit different. The Bible is pretty clear on homosexuality.
@@austinc2997 You don’t know my story and you do not know the bible as much as you think you do. Educate yourself. Independent of my sexuality, these people are still abusers. To be perfectly clear someone’s sexual orientation is not justification for abuse.
@@diondavis1026 Hey I get it, the Bible is offensive, but I don't need your story to understand The Truth. Scripture is pretty clear on homosexuality, and you can't gaslight the Riddles for giving you The Truth on the matter.
With all that said, I love your voice. I hope one day to hear you singing worship music again. You're very talented.
@@austinc2997 You completely missed the point. You’re so focused on my sexuality-which had nothing to do with their abusive behavior towards me that you’re siding with abusers. Also, you don’t know what gaslight means 😂
Praying for you. It’s a painful journey. Thank you for speaking the truth. I believe you. Thank you for your boldness. And I am praying for you and your wife in your healing journey.
I feel like I’m a better worship drummer because of you and your videos. I’m so sorry that happened to you! Prayers for you and your family! Thank you for sharing. God bless!
So sorry to hear your story. Thank you for bringing this forward. God is still with you, no worries on that one, regardless of any 'prophet' telling you something different. Keep going and do that stuff you love. Best whishes
It’s great to see hear back from you Debolt !⚡️I’m sorry you had to go through that but I have more admiration for you after this. Most people wouldn’t people wouldn’t be able to bounce back from this. I’m excited on where you are headed and can’t wait to see more🙏
Your story is so similar to what my husband and I experienced at our old church. I can't even listen to worship music anymore because it literally spirals me into depression. Thank you for sharing. That is so brave. I wish you and your wife healing and wholeness.
Always got your back with prayer and support. Peace and love over you and your family.
This is heartbreaking and I'm so sorry to hear you've been hurt by the church in this way. When the church is centred around the lead pastor so much questions from anyone are prohibited that's a major red flag for me. No one is above reproach and should be held accountable and open to feedback. I'm praying for restoration in your lives and that you do not give up on God!
This is truly heartbreaking! Stay strong my friend! God will honor you for standing up and not being afraid to speak the truth!
The heavy handedness of that "CULTure of honor" is wild. I spent a year at BSSM leading worship and because I questioned some folks who claimed to be my "Spirital Fathers and Mothers" before any relationship was built, I was asked to give up my position as a worship leader.
I love Bethel still, I have really amazing friends who are still plugged in 12 years later. I just know leaders are messy and the spiritual abuse can run unchecked VERY EASY in that type of culture. There are many false prophets, false teachers and unequiped spiritual leaders who are in desperate need of accountability.
Keep your head up bro. Reach out if you ever need someone to chat with who has similar experiences with similar circles of people. God first above it all. Don't back away from the truth that Worship is a weapon and the platform that God has blessed you with. Fight against bitterness and find rest.
Noah, I am so sorry to hear this. I am both surprised and not surprised, regardless of whatever “culture” someone is trying to create, spiritual abuse is never okay. I am very sorry that it was so bad to the point that you’ve lost your passion for your gift. Sincerely, you have inspired me in my own. I pray that you are fixing your eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of our faith. He is still good. Love you, bro. Hope to hear from you in some way, whether it’s through drumming or just vlogs or something like that.
Sorry to hear. This is far too common today. I have similar experiences and it is very hard to commit to a church after this kind of trauma
Good on you bro, my wife and I were spiritually abused at a church in LA where we pastored and loved on people, everyone turned their backs on us when we started asking questions too. Not out of malice, out of care for them and the people we were pastoring. We got pushed out. Best thing that ever happened to us. One word of advice. You mentioned thanking them for what they did, part of the healing process is recognizing that you had some good times with them, and they did pour into you in many ways, give honor where it’s due and leave the rest behind. I don’t regret my time in LA for a minute. Some of the best years of my life. And some of the worst haha❤
Thank you so much for being brave and sharing your story. Spiritual abuse is such a serious problem in the church.
Glad you are speaking up man, so happy you are back. Blessings to you.
Man. I'm so sorry to hear this. I've been thinking about this video for the past week and it breaks my heart. I've been praying for you and your wife and praying that the Lord would reveal himself to you in such a real and fresh way to the both of you during this time. Don't stop chasing after Jesus, He is always good. Even when our leaders are not. Love you brother 🫶🏼
Praying for you brother, truly your channel has blessed me immensely in my drumming journey…believe for the Lord to restore and bring healing to ya amigo
The churches have been infiltrated and having discernment is so important. I don’t listen to the songs or music by Jeremy Riddle or any worship leader from …Bethel, Hillsong, Jesus Culture, Jesus Image, etc., etc. Your experience doesn’t surprise me. I am a fan of yours. Last year God called me to learn and play the drums after one testimony after another. After two months I started playing at my church as the drummer. The leaders spiritually tore me down and took a lot from me. After months of abuse I left the church and quit playing the drums. I’m still learning to play but I’m doing it at home on my own timing and I’ll wait for Gods will and His timing if that’s what He has planned. They took a piece of my heart and I know how you feel. I was a totally different person than what I was so, I understand you . Spiritual discernment is so important now in these last days. I loved learning from you and watching your uploads from when you were playing drums. You’re a brilliant drummer and an inspiration to so many of us. I pray you’ll reunite with your drums. I will pray for you and your wife’s healing. Most importantly I pray you and your wife will be whole again, physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. God bless you and thank you for sharing what a terrible experience you went through. You have helped me and so many people by doing so.
Irmão, sei o quanto isso é triste. Ainda mais quando envolve o evangelho de Cristo. Estamos com você, que Deus te abençoe e derrame forças sobre você e sua esposa. Um abraço de um grande admirador seu aqui no Brasil. 🇧🇷
You were doing an amazing job loving the Church through your channels man. I’ve wondered what happened to you. I’m so sorry you guys have gone through what you have! Will be praying for you and your wife.
I’m so sorry you went through this, bro. May the Lord bring healing and peace for you and your wife.
May God bless you and your family, my brother. May your ministry be restored and flourish once again.
Hey, man. First of all i'm so sorry for what you've gone through. I've already suffered this in seferal churches i've past as well. Second i would like to encourage you to not quit or diconnect yourself from drums or church. When you play and worship God you're pouring something spiritual over people and sharing the annointing of God over your life. This is precious and that's why the enemy is using this situation to put you down. I recomend you to find a christian and good therapist to help with the emotional abuse and try to find a small church with discipleship and home groups...something simple but real where you can connect with people of God and not be alone. And keep drumming, maybe not in church for now but at your house. Make it simple, just you and God. Don't stop praising the Lord with your life and skills. He loves you and He loves what He have given you. We love you as well and you've been a blessing to so many people. Take your time, let God heal your hearts and encourage you one more time.
I am so sorry to hear that...i am Jordan. I started drumming since i was five and started plaaying drums at church when i was 7 and half. Now i am sixteen years old..and all that time..man you have been a great inspiration. Whenever i had to play something on sunday i always used watch your cover..and try to imitate it..your fills and techniques i liked so much though i couldnt play as good as you..man you were just a block of inspiration man...
So sorry to hear all of this...its sad how people in power and specifically in church do this...but i would like to tell you one thing LET GOD BE THE JUDGE. the word of God says that its Lord who exalts and pulls down leaders...Keep up your spirit man...please return worship drumming..dont leave...just know that Jesus is never like this...He loves the way you are...its just horrible how God used and interpreted in a wrong way.
GOD BLESS YOU.
JESUS ALWAYS AND WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU❤
LOVE FROM INDIA 🇮🇳
Oh man, I’m sorry to hear that bro. I know it’s not much to hear from some random person but I’m proud of you for getting through it and staying with God. God bless you brother, I’ll pray for you.
I went through something similar at a local church and had lost the passion to touch any instrument and was numb for 6 months straight.
I think the church needs a re-awakening and I would to see musicians and past church employees come forward and be as brave as Noah. This could be the kind of awakening many churches need. I know you will be back behind the kit someday. It may not be today but I know God has a plan for you Noah. I’m back in church with some good people. Sending you many blessings and positive vibes.
Good for you finding your voice. It’s not easy to stand against this. Spiritual abuse needs to be talked about more. I’m praying for your family. If you haven’t read it yet, the book, subtle power of spiritual abuse is really helpful to read in these situations
Hey man. As a drummer I’ve been following you for the last 3 years. You have a following and love that are here to tell your story. We are here for you.
Hello brother, peace and grace. My name is Fernando, I'm Brazilian and I'd really like to meet you, because I say that, I'm in a moment like yours, but when I looked for the best worship drummers to improve my performance, you were in first place, and I found my faith revived again and when you ministered "agnus dei" I felt the presence of GOD in your drumsticks... thank you for being GOD's instrument in my life... GOD is with you.
Stay strong brother! Excited to see how God uses this trial in your testimony.
We know it's not easy to go through this. Keep being that guy that we love, that we see how much you shine the mejesty of God in your instrument, that which inspires us, to see your humility and simplicity and at the same time all the exellence in what you do. Strong hug brother, we are together! You are a blessing!
é triste ouvir que essas coisas estão acontecendo na igreja de Cristo. mais triste é descobrir que não se limita a igrejas brasileiras.
Como irmão em Cristo vou orar por você e por sua família, para que essa ferida seja curada pelo Espírito Santo e não mate seu talento, mas que ela seja um canal de benção para outros que passaram pelo mesmo que você, porque quando Deus cura uma ferida, ele inaugura uma nova unção. Não desista do seu canal aqui no CZcams. tem sido uma benção ver seu crescimento esse tempo todo, e como você foi abraçado por nós, brasileiros, e cremos que muitos dos comentários aqui dizem o mesmo: "NÃO PARE!" vou estar orando para que você continue servindo e encontre uma Casa de Deus que te acolha, cuide de você e sua família, onde você possa dar frutos para o Reino.
Como um pastor de uma pequena comunidade local, seu vídeo acendeu uma luz vermelha pra mim, e por isso, estarei orando para que eu não seja alguém que abuse de alguém. Uma postura abusiva é fruto de um coração ferido, e por isso também vou orar por eles e por quem ficou, afinal "hurt people, hurt people" (pessoas machucadas, machucam pessoas).
This breaks my heart man:( praying for you guys!
Acabei de ver o vídeo aqui do Brasil e estarei orando a Deus pela sua vida. Forças meu amigo! 🙏🙏🙏🇧🇷
I'm so sorry about this, I have passed something like you, no that Hard but I admire your mature to talk about this things and thank you so much for taking time to share this with us, I wish you have been recovering this days, God bless you!
(I'm not english speaker but I wish you understand me)
O Brasil está com você 🇧🇷...
O Noah não é apenas um instrumentista como muitos já viram, ele é um músico que me inspira todos os dias pra continuar tocando na igreja, eu assisto os seus vídeos e choro, e também é uma das minhas maiores influências nessa questão de fé, ele não assume apenas uma bateria para tocar como a maioria dos músicos, amas ele presta uma adoração concreta a Deus, e ele é uma das minhas maiores inspirações, eu te amo muito cara, Deus está com voce❤ ( você me inspira muito que o meu papel de parede do celular é a foto do seu site)
Bro, if your passion is to be a light to us, you’ve done great. Please take your time to heal. Thank you brodie!
Noah… you and your wife have been on my heart for a long while. Haven’t known how to pray for you guys, but the Spirit intercedes where words fail.
I hope you know, as fellow believers, we’re here to be your community and to help build you guys up while you heal.
Drums are secondary, and if the passion returns, we’ll be here for it, but please don’t feel rushed or pressured to immerse yourself if your heart isn’t there. Depression is a thief sometimes. And sometimes our passions shift. I’m a somewhat adequate multi instrumentalist, and drums were not my heart instrument for a long time… until they suddenly were. And while you were part of that journey, I want to thank you.
That said; if your passion shifts to guitar or spray paint art, or math tutorials or gardening and plant life… know that I want to help support that for you guys. Just let us know when you’re ready.
I went through that in my teen years. It changed me deeply. Still dealing with the scars. I'm 34 now. God bless, man.
Me too I’m in my 30’s now and it stole over a decade of my life 😞
I’m 36 and still dealing with what I went though at 18.
Almost 50, I yearn to be part of a church family, but still have such massive reservations ...
@@RlRdHd brother, go back. Jesus is still the same and people are people. Full of sins. Satan uses people to try to set us apart from God.
This breaks my heart brother, I’ve looked up to your drumming so much and the Lord used you in a mighty way. Remember leaders get power hungry and controlling I’m glad you were able to see what was going on and was able to get out. Just give it time to heal and I pray you rest in Him and find comfort, I pray he will give your a fresh vision for your future, thank you for all you have done! Stay strong!
Noah, you’ve been a huge inspiration for me and many other people around the world. Because your videos not only show your playing, but also the presence of the Holy Spirit moving through you, and in the lives of many people at different arenas and churches around the world. It even impacted me as a viewer.
It’s never late to come back to the drums again, we’ve got your back, not only as musicians but also as brothers in Christ. God gave you this very special gift: to be able to worship him with the drums, and there’s no man, or group, or church, or anything that can take it away or stop you from doing it.
Take Care, Kevin.
Wow.....this is just.....so sad. I'm speechless. Praying for healing for you and your wife and all others affected by this.
Meu Deus! Meu irmão, estamos com você! Seus vídeos são carregados de unção e me ensinaram muito! Estou orando por sua vida e pela sua reconstrução, nosso Pai do céu deseja isso. Te amamos! (vem pro brasil)
My Wife and I went through this same thing. I was a Worship Pastor, and because I brought the lost direction and lack of Biblical guidance and lack of Discipleship, and being extremely burnt out. And there is a lot more. I even sold all my music gear ($15,000 worth). Didn’t touch music for a year.
But I have learned more from those who wronged me than my best friends. Stay strong in the lord.
So very sorry.
I have been through this in smaller ways in 2 different Vineyard churches that were kicked out of the Vineyard movement, but only after years of people unsuccessfully trying to get some response from the "up the line" leaders.
You can recover from this. Stay close to Jesus, and find a loving church. God is there for you and everyone else who is suffering.
man im so sorry!! this breaks my heart... Much love to you and your wife
Dude I am so sorry. This sucks. I love this channel. You’ve inspired me to be creative on the drums. I found my love for playing drums again at church from watching your channel. You’re awesome and I know you are going to do amazing things!!
Jeremy will give an account, word for word, before God on judgment day. I didn’t even know spiritual abuse was a thing until this video and I went thru that with my previous pastor almost verbatim at 19. I went thru it man when I left church. I felt useless and unwanted and tried to take my own life and blamed God daily for being alive each morning.
Just over 3 years ago I stumbled across this church in Santa Barbara and Gods been healing me from that hurt and opened up doors for me to play drums there. I was so rusty and actually how I found Noah’s channel. I remember my first video I watched of his was tuning a snare and his energy, passion, and love for drumming for our King was contagious. I watched everything lol and even bought his drumming program to help me grow skillfully and hopefully as a thank you to him. I still have the “drummers weekly prayers” saved on my phone and use them when I’m feeling anxious before service. I’m 25 soon and he’s helped me become not only the drummer but the man I am from that initial spark to not be scared of jumping into this gift again. “Fill my hands with fire”
It’s unlikely he’ll see this but THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU!
Dude, I’m so sorry to hear about yours and your wife’s experience. 😔 I have always loved your content and your creative passion behind the drums. I’m not sure what to say other than you or anyone else should not be subjected to that type of manipulation and toxicity. Wishing you well, bro. Don’t give up!
So sorry you and your wife had to go through this. Praying for you guys and and that the Lord’s comfort and peace be with you, reminding you of the passion and purpose He’s put inside of you.
Thank you for sharing your story. So sorry you are going through this. It's excrutiating. I went through something similar and can relate.
I read the article,goodness that is an epic story of abusive behavior. Very toxic and harmful, I’m glad you made it out.
Keep going strong bro! Your an inspiration to us worship drummers and your the first person I came across putting the click in the mix 🙌 praying for you and look forward to seeing more drumming content. Hang in there 🙏 god bless you
Again, compassion for the situation. From what I could tell a lot of people have experienced certain issues within the body of Christ. You have choices on how you respond and I really believe that this is not one of them. It really does sound a little bit like a Revenge message to Jeremy personally at one point. I really have to encourage you as a body of Christ that we need to allow God to bring this full circle. And we need to lay down offense. This is the one weapon the enemy uses to separate the power of Satan is dividing the body of Christ. I'm sad to hear so many people not speak up on this but we all experience woundedness from others that we have trusted and loved in churches. But the Lord is looking for those who will humble themselves forgive and let God be God in the situation. Of course we know God is not surprised about this. But we as individuals have a responsibility to have our hearts right and clean before God. You're very young and you have a lot of other stuff in your walk with the Lord that will come these are Stepping Stones to those and if you position Your Heart Right. And allow the Lord to do what he needs to do and you don't step in front of him. This is an exhortation from an Ex V. Leader. You'll love what God does to you and your heart and what he does in the circumstances and how he uses it in the years in the future as you encounter other leaders leadership and pastors who they themselves have not been fully healed. The lord loves us in our weakness. But his heart is for us to mature. Don't pick up a stone. Lovingly from a sister in the Lord
Thank you for sharing this, in the past I’ve been on the abuser side, hurting others, this video helped bring attention to that, thank you.
I missed your videos. Can’t wait to see this channel flourish! 🤍
My brother!! I saw ur video on ig hours ago and decided to come here to youtube. U shouldnt have gone through this. Thank you for sharing this and for others! Yahweh bless you!! What the enemy meant for harm God will use for His Glory. Keep obeying and honoring Yahweh!! He is in control. I love you brother!! Praise Yeshua!! Soli Deo Gloria!!!✝️✝️🙌🙌
Hi, I'm a subscriber, because I really like your videos (they inspired me), but thanks for having the strength to speak about it in public, that happens in many churches, large and small.
I’m so sorry for everything you and your wife have been through. 💔
Congratulations for the courage to speak these things out. You are not the only one but someone needs to start, right? Excelent!
man, thanks for sharing i know how hard it is to tell something like this. God bless you.
Estamos com você! Esses abusos estão mais evidentes que nunca. Vamos lutar para fazer a verdadeira vontade de Deus.❤
Good for you for speaking up. This should not have happened to you and your wife. But there are people out there who are working out their own unresolved issues via their “leading.” I have experienced something similar in my past, and I can tell you that in time, you will heal, as I did. Glad you two made it out!! Continue to be brave. Continue to give yourself lots of compassion. The Lord IS with you.