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Detailing the Abusive Leadership of Jeremy Riddle & Alan Scott
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Sadly, Jeremy Riddle (the worship pastor) and Alan Scott (the senior pastor) from Dwelling Place Anaheim are spiritually abusive men. Beware.
00:00 Intro
02:17 Part 1: The Crushing Atmosphere
07:04 Part 2: The Systemic Pattern of Spiritual Abuse
13:06 Part 3: How This Plays Out (Part of My Story)
21:40 Where are things at today?
#jeremyriddle #spiritualabuse #alanscott #dwellingplaceanaheim
Sadly, Jeremy Riddle (the worship pastor) and Alan Scott (the senior pastor) from Dwelling Place Anaheim are spiritually abusive men. Beware.
00:00 Intro
02:17 Part 1: The Crushing Atmosphere
07:04 Part 2: The Systemic Pattern of Spiritual Abuse
13:06 Part 3: How This Plays Out (Part of My Story)
21:40 Where are things at today?
#jeremyriddle #spiritualabuse #alanscott #dwellingplaceanaheim
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I mean you’re a decent good drummer … but honestly, the way how you play drums simply moves in the spirit and let me cry! Let god lead your way and never stop playing bro! The next generations needs people like you as spiritual fathers 🙏🏼🕊️🤍
If God brings us to the place where certain people are, it must be for a reason. It's for God to decide where to plant them. It's pretty sad, but it's so common in churches. One worship leader comes, and some other people leave. We are supposed to be an example of love in the church. That's why so many people see that and don't want to come to church.
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What a mess this church is. it's like a control group.
Whats the ride your using ?
The body type thing is so superficial. Also, clearly goes against James 2:1. So many churches these days go down this weird pseudo-corporation route where everyone gets categorized based on personality types and modern psychology rather than the Word of God. Also, everyone needs to embibe the "mission statement" and "culture" or they get treated poorly. I used to attend a large church that went down a similar road. Very eye-opening. Thanks for sharing, my friend. God bless.
I applaud your honesty. I can identify with so much of your story.
I hear your pain and lack of support but you're hurting the body of Christ by these videos. Please remove them. They are doing more harm than good.
This is heavenly melody.
Glad you had the courage to come out about it. I went through something very similar. The gas lighting, the intimidation, the clear and direct insults, the character smear campaigns, and the workings out of that socially through their saturation into the community. The purposeful cruelty. The manipulation of the sacraments. The scapegoating. The demonization. And the explicit communication that you are of no use to God- which is what the rejection of a calling really is. I frequently have deep regrets that I didn't record all of the conversations. But going into those conversations why would I have? If you're a young well meaning minister, deeply committed to Christianity and the gospel and the Kingdom of God and your trying to work in a church and be helpful, and be mentored, why would you start recording all of your conversations with somebody? These toxic abusive behaviors are a feature not a glitch. Interestingly enough the resurrected Jesus doesn't go back to the Chief Priests and the folks wielding the executive power of the temple apparatus and offer them forgiveness. That discloses to me in part, that there's something very damning about spiritual abuse from a pastor,. There's a moral seriousness to t's effects, what it does to its victims, the possibility of repentance, forgiveness, reconciliation or change. So saddened to hear your story. For what it's worth, you exist now as the truth of the gospel. That may well be one of the lasting gifts. You are a true and credible witness.
I’m so sick of Christian so-called leaders continually using the word ‘culture’, ‘honor culture’ which really just translates to you can’t question them in any way or disagree with them in any way. 1 Peter 5:3 calls it ‘lording it over those allotted to your charge’ and is something you are not supposed to do as leaders. Jeremy came from Bethel where ‘honor culture’ is a thing, so of course you can’t disagree with him. It’s good that this and any other channels expose these people for what they are - narcissists. I’ve been a Christian for 35 years (and involved in worship) and have seen this over and over. I had a leader at one church tell me you can’t disagree with them, and when I did they said I had a demon! I left that church within 2 weeks and never looked back. (They of course disagreed with their past leaders in the church they left) Also when Jeremy Riddle is quoting Acts where it says repent that times of refreshing may come from the Lord - they were speaking to people who did not yet believe in Jesus, not Christians. It was really ironic to see Jeremy write a book during Covid called the Reset complaining about the very industry he is a key player in. Guess he couldn’t tour so he had to get some money somehow from the body of Christ.
As a worship leader myself I think where Jeremy is coming from is wanting his team to be sold out to only the purpose of "Revival " and anything else should pale in comparison, and i get the impression that Noah plays in a secular band and that is not an indicator of ministry focus,i know many Christian's play in secular bands and think it somehow glorifies God,but does not model sold out ,set apart focus on Revival
Sadly, that’s not the case. I wasn’t playing in any secular band - I was Jeremy’s full-time drummer and volunteer at the church. Plus I was teaching other worship drummers some drum lessons. I was fully doing ministry brother. But Jeremy wanted to control me and others, and make me fit into his idea of who I should be, not who God thinks I should be.
Either way drummers usually just get paid for the gig or session usually. Jeremy I’m sure is getting paid way more with record deals and such. Probably more each worship concert too. I call it a concert because you have to pay to get in. Last I saw he had a house worth over a million, yet according to another person online they were charging people $1100 a class at Dwelling Place (and it was said it goes to the leaders). Then you have Alan Scott conveniently taking over (totally) 62 million worth of assets that really belonged to Vineyard, and now being sued. So sold out for what? You can’t serve God and money.
If you walk in love, you should ask Jesus to give you His divine love for Jeremy! As it stands, how can you love a God you can't see, if you can't love your brother in Christ whom you see. Very disappointing video. Don't do the devil's work!
I can relate to you Noah. I feel like that too at my church from my worship leader. Worship is always weird. It feels like a click. You're either in or your out A strong worship leader doesn't want another strong worship leader joining him onstage. He wants those who are weaker or who will just go along with the stuff he wants to do. He doesn't want someone who can do what he does or as well as whst he does or better . It's forever frustrating.
Man, this seems seriously painful. After discovering my feelings of being manipulated and emotionally abused and neglected by my Dad it's also taken a hit on my spiritual wellbeing because I relaised there's some parts of my church culture that harm my mental health like people often creating a toxic idea of perfectionism and it just hurts. And it's difficult because it's like you want to be close to God though you just don't want to have to navigate all the pain and other harmful or hurtful ideas that people put on or add onto your ideology of God. Like you want to be close to God though you want your journey to God to be in a safe space, a place where you can explore, be seen by your community and a place where your thoughts and feelings are safe, seen, and valued. A place where you don't have to jump through hoops or sacrifice your own self respect and wellbeing in order to reach God. Where any effort is enough, where there isn't a list of expectations or to do's. A place where you come as you may, and come as you are, where there is no judgement or hidden agendas. Where all people feel welcome and at ease from those in the greatest pain or turmoil to those in less pain. To create a culture like that would be awesome though sadly it seems this kind of culture is difficult in a world like ours.
It's a very niceee i really like the music of GOD 🙏🏼GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS
Ty for sharing! So much of what my church did to us and still does. So sad that this is a new church norm
I hear you. I was cast out because I wanted to read the whole Bible and started asking questions. Because I was reading the Bible!!! 😂😢
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Hope you are doing well! I was part of Vineyard Music for a LONG time! I was very encouraged by your drumming during the CA government lockdown of in-person worship in 2020! I even bought a Strike Pad because of your very creative "noise" crashes :) God has you and your wife in his loving arms. Jeremy is 'back at it" and it makes me sad that he just gets away with what he did, and has not apologized or owned it. He's in good company with Mike Bickle (sp?) Oh well... GODSPEED brother!
I'm not christian or believer but healing from it.
Thanks for sharing, I believe you and I’m sorry.
I'm healing from abuse as well. 😢😢
My EarPods exploded bro😂
what gadget did the bass player use? Overdrive? or Distortion?
Bro. That click must go. You are the click remember that. . Practice using a metronome and you will not need that click. It’s robbing your soul
Did Jeremy riddle prophesy that Debolt Drumming would “change” since you were leaving his leadership. I hate to point to the obvious, but in a way he was right.
No, he only told me that everything I did with DeBoltDrumming would fail because I was leaving his "covering". If you're following along, this video was released 2 months after we left the church. Since I wasn't playing at church, I had no other content to post and this was my full-time job. So I had to pivot to other things. Which is what this video is about.
@@DeBoltDrumming sorry my friend, I meant no disrespect and I appreciate ur response. I’m here because of the Royce Report, so I’m just now hearing anything about anything. Whatever you do with your music, ministry, I hope for the best! You’ve experienced something that we can’t completely understand, been on a journey that we haven’t experienced and I thank you for sharing a bit of what has happened. I’m not a Jeremy Riddle fan boy but I am a fan. I appreciate the drumming you brought to a lot of the Dwelling Place videos released during the pandemic. God bless you in your journey! 🤙 Aloha! Keep sharing as needed.
@@adonijah139 all good brotha. I’m glad you’re taking the time to look into things. 🤙
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Could we get more details about Jeremy’s “cause”? Could we get more details about what was in the sermons of Scott that you were disagreeing with?
I'm sure Jeremy would say that his "cause" is revival.
Where is the original video at? Any links?
Sorry, this is the only video I know of that exists for this.
Well then, read the novel “Where Do we Go Now, LORD? - Burke.” Explains much. Very much. Enjoy.
STOP PLAYING THE VICTM and trying to ashame the GOSPEL by some personal REVENGE
Ass
Why do you want to show off on Jeremy's behalf? build your own fame..don't trying to bring others down
Huh?
@@DeBoltDrumming of course ur trying to be famous turning jeremy down and bringing shame to the gospel..
@@Felipe-nj9vh What really brings shame to the gospel is spiritually abusive leaders. They harm the sheep. I'm hoping my video helps people recognize the patterns and stay away from Jeremy.
@@DeBoltDrumming Ur from a generation that doesnt accept submission, and doesnt want to be corrected. even demanding that you “arrive on time” is a problem for u. get out of that victim position
@@Felipe-nj9vh You might wanna re-listen? Never once did I ever show up late. I was typically showed up 30-45 minutes before soundcheck to get dialed in and set-up. That specific audio recording was talking about volunteers in general, and it highlights a lack of care for the people donating their time to the church. There would be no discussion on if that person was okay, if their emergency was handled alright, etc. It’s just “if you’re late twice, your kicked off the team”.
The very fact that they separate "community-driven" and "cause-driven" is literally a contradiction in itself with the context of what the church is suppose to be for the world. Not to even get into the phrase "driven" aspect of physiological drive, this almost looks like you look to one-self to define what you do, rather than what God has assigned you to do. Matthew 7:15-16
Nice Tom Tom play!!!
You’re speaking for my recent situation. I was in a cult like church for years, and you’ve described it perfectly. Praise God for your freedom!
Go to a Catholic church and you'll be all good!
Great playing, real blessing. (From the UK) 😀😀😀
They are all psychopaths
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Still one of my favorite drum cams ❤ Thank you so much for sharing this video! Love your playing and your attitude. God bless you 🔥
1 Samuel 16:7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have [a]refused him. For[b] the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
Idk, if you think this is abuse you're not likely a child of the 70s or 80s. Don't let things fester, bitterness can sneak in. Take care.
Showing up late as a worship team member is absurd and disrespectful for adults. Emergencies excepted, showing up on time is what adults do, no excuses. If you repeatedly show up late at a paid job, you will be sanctioned or fired. Since we are serving the King of Kings who died for us, how much importance should we place on being excellent for His Majesty? This is snowflake nonsense by irresponsible, immature people. This is a pastor trying to mold his leadership the way he sees fit. Jesus did the same thing.
You might wanna re-listen? Never once did I ever show up late. I was typically showed up 30-45 minutes before soundcheck to get dialed in and set-up. That audio recording was talking about volunteers in general, and it highlights a lack of care for the people donating their time to the church. There would be no discussion on if that person was okay, if their emergency was handled alright, etc. It’s just “if you’re late twice, your kicked off the team”.
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Thank you for sharing. I know how you feel my husband and I have been through the same thing. It’s been over a year now and I’m still trying to heal from it. It’s hard for me to trust as well.