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YES! More SimRacing content, please! I love your take on whats going on in the Sim Racing community.
I would love to see some of his gpu and cpu tests be ran on the triples and vr for the sim community that's looking to upgrade
When your racing sim costs more than your real car, you're a true gamer.
A thrustmaster TS-XW & wheel would already cost more than my POS car TBF, without adding pedals 🤣
And yet funny thing one of the top iRacing guys is a NASCAR driver that uses a Dell Laptop and cheap Logitech wheel/pedals for around $3000 total and he drives circles around those other NASCAR drivers that spent $300k+ on their rigs.
Well, remember who's sponsoring the video. OF COURSE they want you to spend all your money in their hallowed rooms...
everything is more expensive than a Miata 🤣I could trade my tower and get a whole a Miata
Have you seen Jay's cars? 😂
1:17 correction Logitech Pro is a DD wheel, also the wheel you are using is most likely a G920 which is gear driven. [G923 would have a blue ring]
how would you rate the logitech pro
Then I guess Logitech's DD is soooo goood that it feels like inferior belt wheels... XD All the review that wheel needs XD
@@gangstahhh The Logitech DD feels good but IMO there are better options for the money. The Logitech ecosystem also seems dead. Other than a shifter no options for a different wheel style. Consider the Moza R12 wheelbase with Moza KS wheel is $840. Add in Moza CRP pedals for %460 and total Moza setup is $1300. Logitech Pro DD is $1000 + Logitech G Pro pedals $349 the total is $1349. With Moza you can also change the wheel and they have a good assortment of accessories-shifter, handbrake. Maybe Logitech will have more wheels in the future. The worse part about the G Pro for me is the location of the rotary knobs. The left one more awkward than the right one. As a racer that may adjust brake bias for different corners the angle and location of this knob meant I had to move my hand longer than on other wheels or not at all as some wheels this adjustment is a thumb wheel.
@gangstahhh I've had mine since launch and I absolutely love it.
@arturskibior feels nothing like any of their other wheels. Perfectly smooth and no play anywhere. Very high quality
Hey, the E-Stop should really be in a position where even the legs, maybe your knee, can reach it. In case you get stuck with a hand or sth the last thing you want to do is reach foreward to reach it with the other hand and getting close to the spinning wheel. Multiple options to reach it would be best
Sound advise.
Does make sense
you'll never need an estop button unless you're running a shit wheel base with shit firmware.
@@cbrunnem6102might be true but jay used one so i wrote my suggestion.
also if would not trust software for myself. Dont want to be the first to find one in a weird pc crash or sth... But i get your point
Kill switches are largely unnecessary. I have one. It sits in a box
I absolutely love iRacing. I got into it about a year ago and now it’s all I want to spend money on lol. Streaming it is so much fun. Sim racing is very addicting
If no one mentioned it, put the seat AND pedals on seat sliders... way easier for adjustments.
Perfect for playing Diddy Kong Racing
As someone who has driven on many sims, it is fantastic to see Jay go into detail and explain all the levels of equipment, between the humble beginnings of a G920 to hydraulic pedals and DD wheels it's great to see him education people.
I love to be educationed
@@SAVAGE4SAMMICH don’t use Jay as your teacher on this stuff, he really doesn’t know what he’s doing. Go to somewhere like Boosted Media.
Except he's literally spreading misinformation. Says Logitech's Pro wheel are belt-driven, when they are DD wheels. Then goes on to say a step up from the Pro wheel would be Logitech's offerings like the T80, which is literally a bungee cord wheel
He's obviously uninformed but that's not the issue. The issue is spreading misinformation to other uninformed people and passing it off as factual statements
@@WhiteHawk77can vouch on boosted media jay is too new at this.
there is plastic made to fill those aluminium groove, usually for cnc to not collect to much dust, but it could make it look more finished and hide the grub screw mark. Usually it's called v-slot cover, the only issue would be to find the right colour.
From what i see, the tower could interfere with the screen support, it seem like an overview or maybe it's just the video that flatten the perspective.
Can't wait to see you guy do some race :)
Nice rig and wheel. I hope you enjoy it. Can’t go wrong with the TK rig
For my flight sim gear, I use a 3d printed case to mount my stream deck. to the top of my Virpil throttle desk mount.
Super nice setup! Good to see the interest in sim racing and the incredible range of hardware available.
I recommend putting the emergency stop button near your feet in the case your hands do get caught in the wheel, you can hit the button with your foot.
7:19 Those pedals on the display rig are the HE Ultimate Pedals, not the HE Sprints, not the same. Also if you flip the side mount seat brackets around and put the 4 hole side towards your pedals, you can get more rake on the seat.
I just dropped $5k on a Simagic rig. I think this hobby is really going to take off this year. I hope we see some more simcade games with great physics, like GT7, with fun career modes to get people the skills to compete as well as fun muliti-player. It's a lot more forgiving and enjoyable than dropping into Assetto Corso and failing constantly (though they have a new career mode as well I've learned). The real issue with sim racing games is the massive player drop-off after launch, it seems long term sim racers always trend back to the old tried and true games rather than the new stuff. I really hope next year has some great stuff because this year forza, wrc and the crew were all pretty disappointing on launch for all the hype they had. I have hope for wrc but knowing how long it took dirt 2.0 to get to where its at and the fact that it's more fun has me trending back to the old tried and true whenever I boot up the pc.
I just wanna say your vids help with my anxiety. You and your crew are awesome. Thanks Jay.
Entertaining post Christmas content, thanks for the video Jay!
Slip angle systems is something you should look into. Its a bass shaker on each corner but you mount your rig on a sping setup that has it float instead of transfering the feedback through the floor.
Nick doing the model/Vanna wave was well worth the prince of admission! That was a hoot and a half!
seat brackets were backwards, just swop them left to right to get more angle on the backrest. Strongly recommend adjustable vesa mounts to make the monitor alignment very easy
More Sim Racing Content Pls!!! I love these vids!
I also got three Ultra gear monitors for my setup and those big mounting plates that come with the monitor stand cover up all the inputs on the back of the monitor..lol you might want to check that while your waiting for bolts. I changed the plates out for the Advanced sim Racing mounts and it gives you all the adjustability that you need to get the bezels lined up perfectly
Was just there a few months ago. That was an awesome rig they had to demo. Bought the moza r5, shifter, and handbrake. Best customer service.
Jay, that Cooler Master case is SERIOUSLY BAD ASS!!!! I built a 12900K/4080 full water cooled gaming rig in one and WOW was it easy to build in!!!
The RGB is amazing on it and the front round display does all kinds of neato stuff for that little display!!
Please please please start including sim racing games in hardware review tests. Including a triple screen setup, absolutely no one else is doing it and it'd help massively for anyone else who has a triple screen setup or is thinking of getting one.
No we have to see how the newest gpus run gta5 at 300fps at 4k. Screw those sim racers running ultrawides at 155fps or triples at 60-120fps at 4k per sceeen, the only ones actually pushing hardware are going in totally blind its almost silly.
@tylermackenzie9126 it's a niche group of people, but whoever tends to them will definitely gain subscribers and following for doing so
I wish I had a Microcenter store closer to me. The Tustin store is about 75 miles away from here. I just bought a Simucube Pro 2 direct from Simucube to replace my Fanatec wheel base then Microcenter had the GSI Wheel I wanted online so I had it shipped to me. Now I am just waiting on a wheel hub adapter and I can finish putting everything back together. Great to see your sim rig videos. I really enjoyed it.
As an avid sim racer, love the content Jay. More of this!
I love that microcenter has sim stuff I recently upgraded my sim to triples and absolutely love it! I personally don't use nivida surround unless I have too. But iracing and AC don't require it and that's 90% of what I play
Love this stuff. About to build my new rig over the next few days! Went with the Sim Lab GT1-Evo 2 from Microcenter, but got a Fanatec setup prior to realizing I could have done better with Asatek at Microcenter. At least all the 8020 profile stuff is interchangeable for the most part. In any case, love living near one when being into sim racing for sure.
Love seeing the sim racing stuff on the channel. You REALLY need to give some oval racing a chance in iRacing. It gets really intense and is very fun. I have a Simagic Alpha Ultimate and I love it. Having over 20nm of torque sounds like overkill but it’s nice to have that extra dynamic range for those things that give sharp jolts like curbs and wrecks. Plus the stronger motors tend to have more detail in the smaller effects too. I also have the Sprint pedals and they have been great but I think I’m going to try the Simagic P1000 pedals next with the hydraulic brake and the actuators for traction control, ABS, and such. Nothing like turning off the lights in a triple monitor rig and doing some wheel to wheel racing.
VR guys do it with the lights on...lol
Ditch the iRacing extortion fees and try AMS2 ovals.
Just made the switch from sprints to p1000 hydraulics myself. Loving them so far and the ease of dialing in the brake feel with their elastomer set up is waaay better. Out of the box their clutch was way too light but once you tighten up the preload it feels fine. I do think the sprints do the bite point feel better, but it's the least used pedal so I don't mind.
@@gasracing5000 I’ll have to give them a try
Don't use NV Surround for triples! Almost every sim these days support independent triples for a proper FOV for each individual monitor. A quick search and you'll find the proper settings.
Except Automobilista and some other that demand NVsurround. This said I used surround for years and never had any problem with it.
that sounds annoying tho having to switch out of nv surround just to play a game
@@aqulex84 AMS2 ?
@@DJ_An_Dee Automobilista 2
@@aqulex84 installed it today and worked fine. let it run on your center monitor and set up triple in game
Just ordered the Moza R5 bundle desk mount bundle, super excited.
As an R5 Bundle owner going from an OLD hand me down and broken Thrustmaster, it is a huge leap and is awesome! Definitely worth checking out for your first DD setup. Their software is coming along nicely too in my experience. My whole rig is at about $1000 all in (with the KS wheel) minus PC related hardware (which includes VR for my use case). Don't feel like you need a ridiculous rig to have a great time. I've already competed in official series.
Jay you can buy plastic slot covers for aluminium extrusions :) Some Red & Black slot covers would really tie the colour scheme together!
I would love to see a full comparison between triple monitors and VR once you get this all set up! Keep the Sim Racing content coming!!
VR is better... lol.
@@gasracing5000it is but it’s also very taxing on GPU. I run a oculus Q2 on a 7800x3d/4090. And on ACC I can’t crank everything to the max.
Honestly do, ACC is notorious for “poor” VR implementation.
Imo it's personal preference, I have both and love using them for different situations, VR is great for friends and fam to try out but for long online racing triples are better.
Triples are harder to run but people can drive longer on triples, some like myself have no problem using VR for hours though
VR is the better solution, unless your GPU can't stand it - or you get sick of it.
Immersion, depth of field and your driving times are better.
Just bought Asetek gear and an 80/20 rig. It's an amazing experience.
This looks so good great sim build
I saw ultimate and thought "here we go" sarcastically until they actually went with an 80/20 rig, simucube, and GSI wheel. They could do plenty more but it's not necessary to have a great experience.
When moving the SIM rig around it is important to steer it with the steering wheel
Heck yeah. Head to head content would be sick.
I drive in real life (not a pro) but I just got into sim racing for learning tracks across the country. Keep up this content man I’m here to learn!
Bought this same set up and it's great value for money!
That was a Logitech G923 on display which is basically a G920/G29 with trueforce and they are all gear driven which is notchy, the Logitech PRO Racing wheel which was in the bigger boxes on the right and also has trueforce but is direct drive, also pedals can either use potentiometers or load cells for the brakes which can also make a huge difference in pressure required, consistency and realism
Yeah the PRO is an awesome wheel seeing him talk about the thrustmaster wheel as an upgrade was kinda embarrassing.
Wow, impressive to have all that simracing equipment in a physical store!
Would love to see Micro center in Europe :)
I don't have the green version, but that monitor stand is a pretty good deal. For the price of a typical 80-20 single monitor stand, TK Racing offers a triple stand. All the benefits of it being an aluminum extrusion stand, meaning you can mix and match different MFG's parts if you wanted. Sim-lab's Xero play hinges, custom plates and even proprietary parts from Simracing Cockpits will fit and work like a charm. Its a steal at what TK Racing is asking
cool, I was there a few weeks ago and drove that exact same simulator. It was so much fun!
dang i love that green frame. looks soooo good
Got into sim racing a little earlier this year and I’m already about $11k deep in the hobby, between the profile rig, wheel set up and 4090 PC plus 1440p triples. No regrets at all though, it’s brought back a lot of love for gaming and PCs for me, next on the list is the PSVR2 for gt7.
Really wish there was a bit more console compatibility with the wheelbases though, I ended up having to go fully fanatec just so I could also have PlayStation compatibility. Love the gear I have a lot, but it would have been nice to have some higher end options for pedals, a shifter, and certain steering wheels.
i really love the color scheme, olive green gold makes it look extra cool
Ive had my rig for about 2yrs now and i still make small seat changes here and there. Sometimes i dont know what i enjoy more, tinkering with my rig or racing. 😂
Microcenter looks to have you and @Austin Evans build the same exact setup you guys should race each other.
I would love to see more Sim Racing content as well but I would really like to have seen the full build from start to finish and the total cost.
There's force feed back that goes the extra mile. servo four post and helmet force. It move your head to simulate g-force. Super cool. Or slide axis movements too. 4dof degrees of freedom
Nice starter-setup😁 I've the same base, but with 7 shakers, SimXperience G-Seat and G-Belt and other stuff like h-shifter, sequential shifter, handbrake, Pimax 8KX etc.
Micro Center is awesome! So much good stuff
You should pay more attention while building....the damage on the profile is not because you tightened the screws but because the screws you used were too long.
Look in the instruction manual, they should state the length of the screws needed for each step of assembly.
Like the rig but I prefer the Sim Lab P1X...
Ps. you will love that GSI wheel :)
This is cool. I've recently been getting into racing myself. I Bought me one of those Logitech G920 with shifter mounted on a Next Level Racing Stand and I love it. I'm not a huge racing nut so the setup I have is just perfect for me. The thing about G920 though, don't underestimate it's Lil 'Moter, when I first got it, the wheel nearly pulled out of my hands. Not as accurate as the more expensive sims but it does a great job.
I have a thrustmaster TSPC racer I love it
And Fanatec V3 pedals and a openwheeler v3 cockpit with seat risers and all the add on mods they offer , seat cover , seat belts 4 point , lumbar support and head pillow .
Its my flight sim and racing rig
Dude.. we need WAY MORE Micro Centers in this country. They carry all that gear? Damn!
Canada sure could use even just one!, 2 would be better, say one on the west coast and one in Toronto, I'd sure drive a few hours to TO to shop there.
Wow, I am surprised all of that stuff fit in the R8. Nice job. Great video. Love the energy.
More SimRacing and Sim content for the non-car people would be interesting, even if only discussing it with site pictures. As a Canadian, I was wondering if Micro Center is going to expand to North of the 49th? We have Best Buy & WalMart as our big box stores, in the prairies, at least. Due to the pandemic, the specialty shops for computer hardware mostly dried up, with the only ones remaining being corporate suppliers. Keep up the great content, and thank you.
Love the sim racing content
1:10 To clarify what Jay's saying and showing, the display wheel he mistook as a G Pro (EDIT: not called a "G-Force Pro") is a G923 which is the refreshed version of the G920/G29 and is gear-driven. The G Pro is direct-drive (shown to the right of the display). Logi don't offer belt-driven wheels.
i love Jayz take on racing sims, we need more!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone checking out the TK Bundle it's a great value for a rig. Having the triple screen mount included in for the price of p1x.
Brackets for the seat. What you want to do is switch the left to the right and right to the left. Then the 80/20 that holds the seat, spread it out more so the brackets fit on top of it again. This is how you get your seat to tilt back more and have the front come up higher. No more bolts hitting the underside of your seat. I hope this helps.
I bought a Thrustmaster T150 used on fb marketplace with no clutch or shifter. But it does have flappy paddle shifters on the wheel. It works for desk mount with American truck sim, assetto corsa, forza etc.
I'm itching to build a sim rig but space is super limited. Also, I hope all I well with you and the team Jay. Greatly appreciate the content and information
Man seeing this video makes me really want to come down and help you guys out, I love setting up rigs. Let's do some community races sometime. 😊
Bought my moza r5 at that very store, it comes with pedals jay so it’s even more of a bang for your buck. I love mine!
YESSS!!! THIS is why I watch JayzTwoCents!
Nice setup. I built one a couple months ago with the DOF Reality H3 and the PC was a beast with a manufacturer that you guys aren't happy with lately. Yes ASUS LOL. I built it for a retired race car driver here in my town. And he uses the iRacing
Just sold my Fanatec belt driven rig and pedals and went with a Moza R9, KS wheel and Heusinkveld Sprint pedals. Using a couple year old Rseat rig and a 48” LG OLED.
That TK cockpit is gorgeous.
Just cover the scratches with racing stickers! MORE FPS!!!!
You still need something like the sim-lab vario's for the triple mounts. It's gonna make your life SO MUCH easier when mounting the monitors and aligning them.
I have the Sim lab Xp-1 pedals, they really are fantastic and going under the radar at the moment. I have the Asetek wheelbase (love it) and really wanted the asetek pedals but they just didn't match up to the XP1's. Would be great to have stores like this in the UK.
Loved the vid guys👍👍👍
you should move the E stop to be near your feet. If you get caught up in your wheel it will be hard to use your hands to hit the button where as you could just smash it with your foot.
The G29 was actually cutting edge when it was first introduced. Probably close to 10 years ago. I anticipated it at the time in the same way most people do with fanatec now 😅 It boasted helical cut gears that eliminated the gear mesh sound created by straight cut gears. I was stunned a few months ago when I started looking at what's available on the market now. But it made me feel good to see that what I have is still sold. So now it's considered entry level.
Just recently found you. They're about to build a Micro Center where I live, and in the past two days your videos have gotten my anticipation up
The simucube stuff micro center has is top notch
Just got a Fanatec CSL DD 8NM with the Mcl GT3 wheel, first time using a force feedback wheel and its a blast, sadly gotta mount it to my desk because I really don't have space for a full rig but its still really fun. Though my pedals started being incredibly squeaky already and its really annoying especially when i play very late at night.
Might be to late, but If you put your seat brackets on backwards, you can tilt the seat further back. I had mine fully reclined the right way and it still felt like 90 degrees.
If you are wanting to fit better peddle faces to the Heusinkveld Sprint's (I found my peddle faces started to hurt my feet in endurance races) look into the HRS peddle faces. They are amazing quality, made right here in Australia and are based off of the V8 Supercar peddles. They look great and are far less taxing on your feet (I use rubber based sim socks).
That sim rig seems like a great design because it's just Aluminum 4080 profiles with bolts holding it together. Something you could make yourself for about 50-100$ of material....only issue is the mounting platforms, those you need to buy!
Get it!!!!
I wanna see some race vids!!!!!
Office tourney!!!
Move the kill switch to your knee area.. if the wheel starts spinning and your hands are caught in the wheel, you can tap the stop with you knee.
2:30, I just wanted to mention something, Jay all the top racing series in the world have power steering. F1, Indycar, NASCAR, Rally Cars, all relatively undriveable without power steering due to the conditions and tire size.
seat brackets look fine. goes with the stop button lol
Hey that was my pc case 🙃the cooler master haf700evo, it has some nice room for watercooling in it, plenty of space and a lcd screen in the front 🙃i like it a lot
when i went to microcenter to get a laptop i had the chance to try out one of these rigs they had on display, i gotta train legs more is what i learned
That frame I just bosch rexroth style extrusion and some plates. Fyi if anyone one wanted to construct there own they could buy and cut there own over time
I finally upgraded my chair to the trak racer TR160 however I do not have space for monitors :( so i went with VR.. looking forward to testing it out!!!
Hey Jay, as a owner of the Formula Pro Wlite as well, make sure to have it connected to a powered hub, that preferably does nothing else than poweing the wheel. The Screens on the GSI FPE are notorious to be a little "bitchy" when not having their own hub to power the Vcore screen which can end up in hiccups oif the screen or the screen going blank during races.
Dan Suzuki got great recommendations about the hub on their GSI discord.
Waiting on my 6sigma 120mm profile rig now. My Fanatec CSL DD 8nm base is about to brake my wheel stand.
YAY racing sim rig ... really wanna build one at some time ;)
Just need more space for it ...
You ain't kidding I barely got room for my pc as is two bedroom single wide im about to take out the washer and drier and put it in the laundry room the only good thing is it heats the whole house
17:19 Red / Green complementary colors. Themes: Christmas, Italy, etc
I was shopping Sim rigs at the Tustin Micro Center a few days ago also. I was looking hard at the TK Racing P1 Pro Rig they have there. It is the same as the Sim Labs P1X Pro that is otherwise very hard to get here in the US. The only things I didn’t like about it were the color and the angled uprights. I felt they might limit mods in the future. In the end I went with a local company called Racing Cockpits Out of North County San Diego. I’ve been very impressed with their pro rig so far. Funny, I almost bought those open box pedals as well, but ended up getting the 2 pedal set instead. I also bought three of those same LG monitors, although I was prepared for the issue with the placement of the inputs. I had my son 3D print me 20 mm thick VESA spacers, and then bought 90 degree DisplayPort adapters. Big pain, but the monitors are IPS and have good specs for sub $300. It is really lame where LG places the inputs on the Ultragear monitors. Anyway, I’m waiting for a few last minute bits and cables and will hopefully have the red completed today. Good luck with yours as well!
Thrustmaster is on the same lv as entry just like the Logitech. Love my Simucube 2 pro !!!
This is so freaking Cool
First part of the video, the demo Logitech was was the G923, not the pro. It’s basically the new revision of the G920 and still gear drive. The pro is Direct drive and a different beast, inline with the fanatec DD, moza r3/r5 etc