Chrysler's Biggest Problem is...Chrysler
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- With the announcement of the Chrysler Airflow EV, it opened up a lot of questions. The main one being: how is Chrysler still alive with only two models. With the iconic 300C phasing out of production, that leaves only the Pacifica to carry on the brand name. What motivated FCA and Stellantis to keep the brand around, and what does the future hold for the company?
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Between the bleep in “cockpit” and the gun reloading sound when Nolan pushed his glasses back, this video serves as a perfect example of why Donut’s editors are my favorite CZcams editors right now.
Bleeping cockpit is one of the funniest inventions of the last decade
I wonder if CZcams would demonetize if he said dickpit
his glasses cocked. ch-ch locked and loaded
The glasses reload was just a funny meme...but the censoring of cockpit was literally because they were losing monitization on videos where they said it cause it tricked the algorithm into thinking they said cock...so they started bleeping it
Don't forget the 2000's close up
It's strange to think that with my Pacifica, I currently own 50% of the vehicles Chrysler has to offer.
Lol this comment took me a min to understand because I kept thinking of the old pacifica suv, back when they had so much to choose from.
Tbh, reading that, it really starts to give the “why is this still a brand” thought
And their other car, the 300, is fucking ANCIENT. It's been on sale since 2006, and it's bones are based on the 1990s Mercedes E class!
@@scarfaceAC2 not to mention they haven’t even updated the design of that ugly car since 2011
@@EpticityOG wrong they updated it in 2015. There are 3 gens. 05-10, 11-14, 15- present
I bought a 2007 300C AWD last year with 52K miles in Alaska when I was in the army. Drove great on the snow and ice. Had to buy a new Gas cap and new headlight bulbs. So far it's been great but we shall see.
I also have the 07 300c, AWD, it's a classic beauty, my first car back in 79 was a 60 Chrysler 300 with a 440 TNT, but I wish now I looked for a RWD instead my transfer/differential is going out, you can hear the bearing, sounds like wheel bearing but it's not. oh well, it's worth the repair, if I can find someone to do it, oh yea. thats me lol good luck
PS, it has over 200k miles on it, and still blows the doors off most would be passers...
@White__Rabbit if someone wants to drive faster than you, why would you risk your lives, and the lives of people in the oncoming lane? You'd risk a bunch of lives for your fragile little ego? Yikes... if you've got a tiny d, just say so.
I think the problem with Chrysler easily could have been fixed if they took the “all electrification” they’re doing to Dodge and turned around and made Chrysler as their electric flagship instead. You have 3 very well selling nameplates in Dodge right now after 15 years of constructing a new image after the 90’s and they’re jettisoning it all at once. Hope it work out for them. They could have revamped Chrysler, given it a direction and kept Dodge doing what it was doing and offering one electric car to start.
They took the muscle out of MoPar.
Perhaps not the wisest decision.
Spot on…..
Stop thinking. It must hurt.
@@AdamWaffen oh no… so anyway
Brilliant Point. They could start with that Airflow and an Electric Imperial or 5th Avenue.
I worked in a parts dept at Dodge and from a parts perspective, the company is an absolute nightmare, too many car brands under their umbrella made it extremely difficult, you needed the damn VIN numbers just to get the right oil filter because they had so many different options and engines. Most Japanese Companies really streamlined this, Nissan has 2 main oil filters for all of their vehicles and their rear brake pads have been the same for almost 20 years!
as someone who works at a body shop I couldn't agree more. Even with the full VIN I still can't get the right parts for newer mopar brand stuff, and the local dealer sucks at sourcing the parts too
Oil filter thing is something of a problem with GM vehicles too and only gets worse with certain models. The Buick Encore (and the Chevy Cruze I think? I deal mostly with GMC and Buick) has an engine that has two options for the filter and the only way to determine the correct one is not by VIN but by checking the cap over the oil filter for HENGST or UFI markings.
Honda has used the same oil filter and drain plug bolt for all of it's cars since the mid 90's
@@imperialsnowfall and it’s the same as their motorcycles too lol it’s great
@@snaxgalore5764 Brands like honda and toyota are benefitting from the lack of mergers and acquisitions over the years. It helps that their Japanese philosophies of keeping things running for a long time drive their engineering design.
I dont want airflow concepts, video conferencing, expensive screens that will fail, ece. I want a simple reliable vehicle. This is something chrysler has reliably failed to deliver.
you are describing every ev out there.
Not all EV’s are super complex, there are some neat offerings especially in the Hyundai range. Not to mention the leaf is pretty good for a grocery getter in warmerish climates.
How about a car you can operate and see out of without video cameras and a permanent /disable switch for the ever increasing ellectronics.like the one that keeps turning the engine off. Reliability and ease of repair would be good too. Guess that would be the deluxe option.
@@robertenn6818 That's why i own a '16 silverado regular cab v6, roll up windows, no carpet, vinyl bench seat,
@@beastbee0118 bought my son a 2013 v6 f150 in the same trim as his first truck. Doesn’t even have carpet. It’s gotten him all the way thru high school and he’s about to take it off to community college. I liked it because it didn’t have back seats to pack a bunch of teenagers in. Been a great truck
I remember the ME Four Twelve in Midnight Club. Loved driving that. The 300 SRT8, especially the final gen of it was cool af. I'm glad to see you passionately enjoy Chrysler and their relative products though, I've worked for an FCA dealer on the tech side before and while can confirm they do make some absolute duds, they also can make some phenomenal vehicles. Quirky, but phenomenal especially when you know how to work around and avoid the fatal quirks (ie not extended idling a Hemi or letting it overheat).
Hey man, commenting from the UK! We don’t have many Chryslers over here :,( but I’ve always been a fan, the boldness has always facilitated me growing up I loved the 300c I had as a hot wheel lol.. off my point, I reckon Chrysler should try to bring back their already proven turbine engine technology. I say this because I completely agree with you that they need to be bold over the next 10 years in order to regain their footing as a strong car brand, and doing turbine over electric would really shake up the market.
It’s a much better alternative to battery powered cars in my opinion. Firstly, there’s already an entire industry revolving around turbines lol. Secondly Chryslers original 60 turbine engine cars did something amazing, which wasn’t taken note of as importance at the time due to cheap gas, and that was they could run on anything that burned!! My point is that the infrastructure for electric vehicles in most countries is just simply not ready for the population to adopt them fully. In my country for example if every road using vehicle was electric the country would run out of power in 3 weeks and be in blackout. Turbines may not be the ultimate future over electric, (although who knows with Chryslers genius behind it again it could) but it would most definitely make the transition to electric smoother I think and Chrysler could own an entire new market.
They failed miserable!
These EV’s need to drop HP and up range. Most people don’t care, and as long as it’s above 150hp, they don’t complain. Make it weaker and cheaper
Maybe 200 just to be safe because even the toyita corolla has about that much.
in EV range and max power are coupled. The bigger the battery, the more peak power and range you get.
More power is life 😂 till u go turbo
@@TheJamonLance why not limit the motor power then?
@@chsi5420 limiting motor power will not increase range
"everyone wanted one of these things; rappers, accountants, my mom(she's all three)..."
I felt that.
You felt his mom? Jeeeez!
When the Chrysler 300 first came out, it was the “Old English 800” of cars.
I’ll just leave it at that.
bg music name?
I think he said "she's HAD three".
My dad in my case.
I have a 1st gen Pacifica (2007), 4.0 V6, 6 speed auto, all wheel drive, and absolutely love it. Have spent an irrational amount of money keeping it running but it is one of my favorite driving and riding cars ever.
It's insane that new 300Cs are for sale and they look almost identical to the original
Hell, the Rams have barely changed as well.
Who cares? The Crown Victoria was essentially the same car from 1992-11, same drivetrain from 1992-11 and the same platform from 1979-11. Why? Because they were bulletproof by the last decade of production. The V8 powered RWD full size sedans still can sell but the EPA has finally defeated them
I remember when I was younger, when my car knowledge was inferior, my neighbors owned at 300C, and I always thought, “Wow, they must be super rich.” Lol
I owned a 2.7l 300 and a kid in my neighborhood thought it was a Rolls Royce lol.
@@drill_fiend1097 some kid at our school saw a 21 corvette stingray " damn its a ferrari "
@@rafaelgomez1200 At least that's a fun car. That 2.7l 300 was a leaky nightmare.
" And the fucked up part is that it *do* look like a phantom *until a phantom pulls up* " - Katt Williams
As an adult in a generation which will never be able to afford their own houses, I think anyone who can afford a new car at all is rich
I also blame the late Sergio Marchionne, the former ceo of FCA, since more or less the same happened to Fiat and Lancia. An accountant by training, he was the sort of ceo who focused solely on the bottom line, neglecting engineering, design and brand image. That always gets the same result: companies that have one or two very successful products for a while, but nothing in the pipeline to replace them. The same happened in a completely different industry with Activision/Blizzard, which went from being a powerhouse to a company the tried to wring every last penny from Call of Duty, World of Warcraft and Candy Crush. Both FCA and A/B ended up being bought by other companies.
Don't forget when Daimler Benz bought them just to suck up all their cash savings and sell them later.
Blizzard is ran by violent, rapists. Gotta love slave labor.
Lancia's practical death really hurts me. For the longest time, I thought they were defunct in the 90s, but seeing them only making a single vehicle (and it being an average SUV), hurts even more.
If it wasn't for Sergio, Chrysler/Dodge/RAM would have been dead by now
@@NothingXemnas The Lancia Ypsilon is not an SUV, but a super mini, more or less the size of a Fiat 500. It's only sold in Italy, but very popular there: Lancia sells more cars in its only market Italy than Alfa Romeo worldwide. Again a result of focusing on the few most profitable products.
Fortunately Lancia also gets 10 years to prove itself and Stellantis wants it to be a premium brand again.
First time watching this guy. I'm impressed! Knowledgeable, and speaks with the right "stride"(?). He/you just come off really good in a clip like this! So thanks, and I feel way more informed ☑️ I will be watching to see what else is placed in front of my face. Oh, and is that Chrysler 300 REALLY 17 years old with just slightly altered sheetmetal???
Another thing that went along with the economic downturn was the poor quality of their cars. The vans and the PT Cruiser had a lot of sales but also had a lot of reliability issues.
I worked for a Chrysler dealer in the 90's. The warranty work was ridiculous. The PT cruisers and Neons ate head gaskets and heads. There was a backlog because we couldn't get head gaskets fast enough. And the Caravans and Voyagers had god awful 4 speed transmissions that would crap out as they were being unloaded from the car hauler.
@@nismo2070 My college 1999 Neon did last 200K miles until a freeze plug gave out and leak out all the coolant which people think it runs on water every time I add water to the coolant system. It was a nice small car. The 3 speed transmission is definitely miserable but it was a nice first car for me. I also mod it a lot by lowering it and add unnecessary craps as a typical college kid. My wife had a PT Cruiser in her college time and it was much more miserable than my Neon.
I would buy a wagon if it was stylish and affordable. I love the Mercedes wagons, those things are sick. They should play off those to get started.
Don't tell that to Chrysler. They will give us another Dodge Magnum...
@@EstebanDVO exactly haha
Same here
@@EstebanDVO I wish they would have never went away. When I was a youngbull my pops had a dark blue SRT8 with the 6.1 hemi I wish he still had that car. He traded it for a STS-V just a few years later.
There was a 300c wagon available in Europe
Speaking as an old guy, (because I am), wagons were minivans before there were minivans. Our family had a 1964 Plymouth Valiant station wagon. Many of us learned to drive on it.
They're pretty rare but I'd give my left... to have one now. Smaller wagon, bullet proof engine.
This video has prompted me to have a look at the Regal Tour.
Is there a reason america doesn't have lots of wagons? I'm from Europe and they're extremely common here. Minivans are not. Maybe it's to do with our smaller roads, smaller distances, tighter turns and less parking space?
@@zoutewand Minivans (MPVs) were quite popular in Europe also. Of course, the Renault Espace was one of the trendsetters of the MPV age. Opel had the Zafira. The Peugeot 5008 was a minivan, new model is a SUV MPV tho. Almost every big European brand, especially the French, had MPVs.
But just like in North America, it just... stopped. Reason? Replaced by SUVs largely. But in Europe, the station wagon (aka estate) has also become a replacement for MPVs for many.
Im not sure why both the station wagon/estate and SUV replaced the MPV in Europe, whilst in America only the SUV caught on. Maybe a preference of size that the Americans have, more wanting a super tall vehicle that makes them seem more adventerous, whilst their SUVs likely barely will hit dirt roads.
I feel like, in Europe, in the last few years SUVs have also been edging out wagons though. Opel is possibly gonna retire the Insignia. Its a shame imo, i prefer wagons to SUVs, but oh well, its how the car market is.
I love station wagons
@@zoutewand They fell out of style and became a niche thing, so unless you're trying to get a luxury brand GFL
@@zoutewand Japan's road is tight as fxck and there's also more van than wagons...
Wagon is my favorite but Levorg is fwd. I end up with a Sambar van and the handling isn't good (still the best in all kei car except s600 etc.)
I think people who cares about handling buys wagon and most people just don't care.
We picked up a used Pacifica from that era. It was nicer than it had a right to be and we still see several in the wild in my area.
I'm kinda shocked, being a fan of Chrysler and Mopar, that you never mentioned the Prowler. That was an interesting vehicle at it time of release.
One of my all-time favorite Chrysler products, love the Prowler.
I understand but the Prowler was a Plymouth. The PT Cruiser was supposed to be a Plymouth but when they ended Plymouth the PT Cruiser became a Chrysler.
I was going to say the same thing but then I remembered that the Prowler was a Plymouth not a Chrysler.
@@bryanb6217The Prowler was badged as a Chrysler before it was discontinued. Plymouth was axed before the Prowler was axed
Granted, I've never been in a single 300C but the pre-facelift 300C, especially in the SRT8 trim looks soooo baller. It still looks good today, even if it has aged.
I’ve driven one and my grandma used to own an ‘03, and a ‘16. Inside, the pre-facelift car it feels like you’re in the bottom of a well, (or optimistically, a tank) due to the high window line and the thick A and C pillars. Visibility while driving wasn’t too bad though. The 2016’s interior on the other hand felt way different. The window line was still relatively high in the back, but had been dropped down more in the front and the windshield reached farther down as well. The A and C pillars are thinner, and the sunroof was twice the size, all helping create a more open passenger space. The cars both drove and handled well enough (take that with a grain of salt, because I drive and own nothing but pickups).
I'm gonna comment on every other comment...
Just want anyone's help with this music...
I want to know it as its driving me bonkers...
I've definitely heard it, just don't know the name...
And its really frustrating... Can someone please help me out here???
Anyone????
I had an 06 300C. I miss it everyday
Had an 06 SRT8. Loved that car. So much bang for the buck.
My buddy has a ‘08 SRT8 and a ‘17 300C. They are great looking cars and drive so good
I wish more car companies could make more wagons. They have the space of an SUV without the price of gas and upkeep of one.
So many of us car people want that, but even over here in Europe most people are buying SUV's and crossovers.
Not to mention the avoiding issue having to drive a ugly cross over.
@@LarsDragonbeard in big part because its also whats being promoted the most by car manufacturers. just look at audi's line up. they have like ten SUVs and crossovers in their line up. Mind you, none of them are actually capable of all terrain driving off the lot. they all look the same, and just get marginally bigger with each model.
There's definitely other reasons, but if brands stopped banking on the illusion of safety and prestige they created around SUVs, it would significantly alter market trends.
People say they want wagons but don’t actually purchase them. Buick Regal Tour X, Volvo V90/60, E class wagon, Audi All road are all low volume.
@@bmwmsport11 I have a 1998 v70 AWD turbo with 5 speed trans 👌👍
1st timer on this channel, never heard of Donut Media. He speaks very well to keep the viewers attention. 👍🏼
That rebadged regal is also very very similar to the holden commodores we had here in Australia from like 2017/18-2020
What I discovered by FCA by owning a 2013 Dodge Charger R/T speaks about how the company operates. The design was great. The Hemi V8 engine was award winning. Finish and fit were average at best--there was no care on how it was put together. The interior materials were cheap. The real problem came to the electronics, which seemed bargain basement and was the weakness of the car. Sensors would fail while I was sitting at a stop light. Sensors would go down all the time. The radio to the key fob failed. The electronic interface to the transmission failed. The bean counters wanted to cut expensive electronic parts out and put in the cheapest and most unreliable electronic parts possible. The annoying part of this is the car was so wonderful to drive.
I have my doubts FCA can change.
One of the biggest reasons I stayed away from getting a caravan when we got a minivan was the TIPM issues. I wonder how much money it would have taken to make just that one part not a wet fart
Actually, what you described is arguably the best situation possible, the car is great except for the electronics used. Meaning they can switch to a better supplier like other car companies use and viola, fit and finish is pretty easy to fix as well. That comes down to quality control which can be remedied much much easier than bad engineering. They just have to spend more time on each car instead of allowing large tolerances they make them tighter, which cost a bit more money.
@@HVYgrandrapids have you heard why Chrysler minivans have 9 seats? So one person can steer and the other 8 get out and push when the transmission fails.
Well it's not FCA anymore for one......
Only problem in this comment is that a 2013 Charger R/T was not a FCA vechile.
The FCA merger took place late 14. That was a Daimler Chyrsler Car.
Stelantis has already shown large change, they are doing away with the Hemi. Litteraly the only thing they had going for them. Chrysler/Dodge is Doomed.
In almost all of the video there is barely a mention of what has been plaguing Chrysler: a definite lack of quality, reliability and durability. Instead, a sexy new (but unreliable) model is presented as the "solution" to their woes. For a company that cannot make reliable traditional cars (which they have been doing for more than 80 years), the thought that they are going to employ an entirely new technology electronic technology, and in very short time to boot, seems like a growing disaster to me.
Thank you!
All vehicles are unreliable in my opinion
I know, I'm an old guy. But I can remember when Chrysler made good enough cars that you wouldn't hesitate to buy one with over 100,000 miles on it.
@@RaccKL Chrysler being one of the most unreliable...
@@mrwatch867 funny you say that I’ve had more luck with Chrysler myself than gm or ford
I always liked the homage to classic styling in the PT Cruiser's front end.
I have an 05 300c with the hemi and I love it! You nailed it by calling it a more luxurious charger
The amount of people (myself included) who actually like wagons..... is surprisingly high!
Yes, there are literally dozens of you!
There's nothing sexier than a sexy station wagon.
I had a Dodge Magnum, it was one of my favorite cars
The turn-out in the online comments, and the real world numbers seem to heavily disagree....
@@nicholasfield6127 I will agree on the Magnum being hot. Seriously feel like thats one they should not have axed. Sure, sells were slowing down back then, but I Seriously feel, looking at the Charger and Challenger, and Grand Cherokee now, they could have turned that around easily with similar redesigns.
Make it look Charger-esq with the current interior, paddle shifters and updated ZF trany, even I'd be trpping over myself to get one in my garage (and already want one to a degree)
I love how you can see Nolan’s confidence grow with every episode. Feel like he’s really found his groove and doesn’t take things over the top like the rest of the crew. No offense to the rest of the crew, love them too.
100%. It's one of the best things about Donut media. The videos are great AND we're pulling for the guys to do well. No ego, no entitlement.
May be the glasses.
He's been here for years, when has he not been confident in videos? 🙄
If he's a MOPAR fan, he hasn't learned anything. Only idiots keep loving MOPAR after owning one.
@@scientchahming5 Nolan: *cocks glasses with informative intent*
ME-412 in the first Forza was sick, I also saw the concept in person at the autoshow... so cool
my first car was a 1999 Chrysler 300e
i have no nostalgia or love for the brand. but i do hold some respect the pt cruiser.
this was am awesome and informative video. thank you!
I'm 68 and 1 of 6 kids in the family. We always had station wagons and I always liked them. The last one we had as a kid was a 1968 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser with a Rocket 350 V8 and 4 wheel drum brakes. Later I had a 1962 Falcon Wagon that I liked very much.
Four-wheel drum brakes?! Ooh, that must have been scary, even in 1968! Bet that wagon's braking distance was longer than that of a freight train! (4/2/2022)
I own a 2005 Crossfire. Great to drive, but being 80% Mercedes parts has made it slightly expensive to repair. Also, Chrysler dealerships long ago abandoned working on these.
I know a scrap yard thatll work on it for ya
That's unfortunate.
Some Mercedes dealerships would work on them back in Chicago but I would recommend trying out an independent shop that specializes in Benzes and other European cars if servicing it is becoming difficult
Merc when they sold, dropped parts manufacturing for the models they partnered with. It is common in EU when car companies buy and sell.
Honestly, for a 15 year old car, its pretty reliable!
I actually drive a 2005 Chrysler 300c and I absolutely love it, sure I love other vehicles, but this is my first car and it has a special place in my heart as well as a hemi, also it looks slightly different from othe 300's of the time because of a fancier grill and some slightly different external looks, but other than that, I love this vehicle and would love to buy a newer and cooler chrysler in the future and hopefully their plan goes well and they are still alive
I had a 2015 200c and loved it. There were transmission issue but the tech far exceeded other cars in the same price range.
The 300C was a good drive when I rented one. My only gripe was the 21 point turn I had to do in a parking lot.
lucky you rented it and didnt own it.. avoided lots of bills at the michanic
@@louisbarningham i own an '06 300, and have since 2007. it still works as well as it used to despite some interior LEDs dying over the years. aside from regular oil, tire, and brake maintenance, i haven't had to spend a lot of money on the car since it was purchased. sounds to me like you just don't know how to take care of your vehicles
@@louisbarningham so what you drive a honda? It's not a regular car what you expect it's a luxury vehicle
Lol
My girl owns one and its one of the worst vehicles to maintain, also i can speak to that 21 pont turn.
Back in 2004-05 I went through the CAP program (Chrysler Apprenticship Program) and then worked at a Dodge dealer for 5 years. Nothing has changed since then. The 300 is the Challenger/Charger. The ram is identically the same. The durango was the same and is pretty much the same now and its also the Jeep suv. Chrysler, as a whole, has an incest problem that affects its identity.
The 2004-09 Durango was a body-on-frame truck, while the 2011-present Durango is a crossover. Two totally different vehicles.
The Durango and Ram have both been completely redesigned…
The new Durango is a mercedes platform
@@hakeemsd70m 2011 was 11 years ago, in car world that's ancient
@@foxesamu in 2010 which was 12 years ago, in car terms ancient
My favourite car I’ve ever has was my 2018 Volkswagen Golf Sportwagen. It was a full AWD station wagon with a 6-speed MANUAL transmission and the camera system for emergency braking and adaptive cruise. It could even steer to park itself. It had nearly the cargo capacity of a small SUV with the fuel economy of a small car. It was awesome!
Excellent, you rocked it like the Boss. I enjoyed your video and breakdown of Chrysler. I think they should hire you
Back in late 2000 I was doing long haul from Toronto to Laredo Texas and back. Hauling mostly auto parts. One day I got a message to call in. Did so and was told myself and 4 other drivers were all to take our empty trailers to a specific place, drop the trailers and wait. Well 12 hrs later we all had full trailers, all we knew is we had 3 sets of keys each and the paperwork said PT Cruiser. At the time we had no idea what it was, we all thought boats. Turns out Chrysler was so overloaded with orders they shipped the things on anything that could carry them. I had 3 of them in a 53 foot trailer. Did 3 runs hauling those things from Laredo to Toronto.
Wait Chrysler loaded cars in a dry van? 🤯 damn people love those pt cruisers back then 😆
@@bigmoe8982 yep and back in 2002 I hauled 2 pre-production 2004 Ram trucks. It's amazing what you can haul in a dry van. 😉
Oh wow that’s so cool what other cars did you get to see and haul for FCA at the time
@@jacobasuncion3132it was Daimler back then and I think there was one time with Dakota trucks but that's it. Company I worked for lost the Chrysler account in 2004.
@@Johnny_Kanuk oh ok well that’s cool
I'm really hoping that they bring some new vehicles, but I also don't want them to look like the other stellantis vehicles... For example, the new charger has to LOOK like a charger and the new 300 has to LOOK like a 300.
Excited to see what they put the new inline 6 into. I am hoping for a smaller version of a Challenger.
@@rnt45t1 I hope not, I like my roomy muscle car. If you want a smaller version of the Challenger go buy something Japanese.
I love the 300C estate always liked them as a big “Drug Dealers” car in the UK 😂 was just looking at one on marketplace that has been wrapped metallic red and it looks mint! Just don’t think I could live with the fuel, tax and terrible interior though haha
@@joec3090 I had a Challenger for 5 years. It's a great car, just a pain in the ass to try to park.
@Hayden Mills, I partly agree with you, I think that Chrysler should take design cues form their current models but they need really step up the looks. The newest 300 looks alright, but I believe that they should defiantly revamp the interior or redesign the car altogether, they are in a position where they could change their brand image to really reinforce the idea that they are a "premium" car brand or potentially battle other brands like BMW or Audi. I guess we'll have to see what the future holds for Chrysler.
It’s the gun cocking when you adjusted your glasses 🤓 for me! 😂😂😂
Very astute and incisive commentary.
And I LOVE wagons.
Cheers, my friend.
Can confirm driving the 300c with the 5.7 or srt model did make you feel like a boss
Can Also Confirm That a 300c 5.7 or SRT does make you feel like a boss
Also can confirm driving the 5.7 300cc or the srt model makes you feel like a boss
I appreciate your passion for Chrysler. One thing I disagree with though is I think Chrysler was better off just before the Daimler merger. I don't mean numbers. But with the cab forward cars and retro cars they were really pushing the boundaries of styling. They lost most of that flare once Daimler got involved.
In my opinion, one of Lee Iacocca's worst mistake was to push Robert Eaton to be the new CEO. The guy practically gave away the world's 3rd largest car company, the Chrysler Corporation to Daimler-Benz which ended up sucking it dry and spitting it out.
Fiat's gamble on Alfa Romeo ruined Chrysler. But Chrysler is about to make the biggest comeback over the next 3 years, especially when Alfa Romeo continues to get ignored.
@@nilrepsleuname2677 All Brands Get New Everything: Products Powertrains Platforms Investments And Everything Else Everything Is New.
Worst thing to ever happen to chrysler was being sold to that German junk company
@@Welcometofacsistube lee as CEO was worse in my opinion
I have a Pacifica PHEV I like it. I would love if they had a full EV van and more EV techs at the dealers
I've owned a few Chryslers over the years. An 88 E-Class (the fancy K car), a Neon even had the Crossfire. By far the Crossfire was the best. Unfortunately it suffered from an open diff and traction control that couldn't be fully turned off. But with the mufflers removed... shew it sounded good. That V6 was also beating stock American V8s from around the same era.
I definitely have to say the neon was the funnest though. Mostly because it was a beater car, but it took a lot of abuse before I sold it to head off to the Army. I live in the greatest state of the Union, Michigan, and would regularly drive that thing in the back country roads of north Oakland and lower Genesee and Lapeer counties. Literally hundreds of lakes and even a few rivers. Can't find a straight road it you tried. That Neon stood up to those dirt roads like a champ. I was working as a tire buster at the time for Michigan's biggest tire shop company at time, and one of the mechanics there once worked as a Chrysler mechanic. He showed me some of the tricks to squeeze a few more HP out of the stock engine (like advancing the cam a tooth advanced. Throws an CEL but doesn't put the car into limp mode). Man, that car was a riot to throw around.
I’m not a boomer, but I’m plenty old enough to remember that station wagons were synonymous with “boring”. Then minivans became synonymous with “boring”. Then crossovers are now becoming synonymous with “boring”.
Thing is, everyone was wrong about the first two. Station wagons have always rocked. And minivans are the bomb!
Crossovers still suck though.
When I was a kid some of my favorite cars were station wagons. The Audi S4 Avant, Volvo 850 T5R and P1800 ES. All those american wagons with the fake wood trim. Once when my family was vacationing in France I saw a Citroen CX Loadrunner and it blew my freakin' MIND! I'd still love to own one of those one day! I think it just used to be one of those things you're "suppossed" to hate by general consensus?
Crossovers are just wierd. Station wagons are super cool. And minivans currently look way too sleek.
Bring back conversion vans!
Bingo. As a person under 30, I can appreciate that "crossovers" are mom cars as much as minivans and have equally little desire to ever own one. Wagons, on the other hand, (especially the Cadillac CTS) can be really cool though.
About why we're seeing so many crossovers these days. I once heard a radio interview with a guy from Ferrari. He was talking about how hard it was to get new models road legal these days. For pedestrian crash safety reasons there's basically an ideal height, shape of the nose etc. to pass the tests. And with the test's standards getting stricter every year, that means it's becoming harder to get any car that doesn't look like the standard, generic crossover or SUV certified in all countries around the world. Ferrari's certification lawyers basically have to ask the certification agencies to make exceptions for them with arguments like "Yes, but we'll only make 500 so it won't be a major safety issue" to even get their cars on the road. That's at least one of the reasons why we're inundated by SUV's, Crossovers and identical looking bubble cars these days.
Getting ride of the wagon/estate body design in the US was a mistake. They definitely needed a styling upgrade but they were a much better all around vehicle than an SUV especially if it utilized current AWD technology.
@Joe Baldwin come on, anybody who calls the current Outback a wagon is on a lethal dose of copium.
Na. People just don't buy them. My Acura TSX came in a wagon, nobody bought them, including me.
@@cb5516 does Acura make anything decent any more though? After the RSX I haven't been able to even tell any Acuras apart from each other and very rarely see one on the road.
@@codysimonson6260 they're starting to redesign their lineup and the new TLX looks really nice actually
@@cb5516 The Acura TSX or what you guys call the European Honda Accord sold really well as a wagon in europe. it's harder to find the sedan version for sale or on the road. really weird how you guys don't like wagons
I’m Swedish so I hardly saw any of those big station wagons while growing up but I absolutely love them - except for the ones with wood and ‘wood’ on the sides. Would’ve absolutely loved them without it though. And I love the 300.
The PT Cruiser on the other hand. 🤢
Last but not least I would really like to see car designers pick up the L-square again.
I love donut media so much. Am a huge fan of Station wagon. I currently drive a 2005 dodge magnum rt with a whole 2006 chrysler 300c front end. Am right there with you about wagons Nolan.
1. They should bring back a EV version of the 300.
2. Also, an EV version of the pt cruiser might sell, perhaps?
3. bring back one of the old muscle cars. Ford has the mustang. Dodge has the charger and challenger. Chevy has the Camaro. Chystler can bring back the Cuda.
I agree that a 300C on a EV platform will kill it on today's market, but a 'Cuda is more complicated, since the Barracuda was branded as a Plymouth, a brand with a very, and I mean VERY different philosophy than Chrysler.
Not a bad idea, but hard to implement.
But the PT cruiser of today would be everything he hates. The Cruiser was West Coast/metropolitan jeep. It took the design of a 60-70s sedan/wagon mixed in with crossover or SUV framing and had the option of being convertible. It was the perfect car to load 4-5 people in while giving ample space both cabin and cargo wise while letting the breeze hit your head.
@@MAC-0 i completely agree. But IMHO, it would honestly tempt me to buy one cuz that's one of my faves of all the classic muscle cars.
300 is Chrysler's muscle, the Cuda is plymouth's.
@@JDBManalo Mine as well. Even James pumped a "concept" of how it should be if it gets relaunched at some point, as an uncompromised Challenger. And I'm stoked for the idea.
However, my original point stands. Even if we like the idea, it doesn't fall on the needs of a car under Chrysler's lineup to improve their image. A modern 'Cuda is the anti-thesis of their Airflow concept.
When I first saw the Airflow concept, I was struck... by how bland it was. I mean, even if the OG Airflow had its share of issues, it was a bold, innovative design, that was a milestone of design worldwide. This one... it's got the looks and personality of a yoghurt. Not bad looking/tasting, on the contrary, but it's not something you'll stir the masses with.
I guess though anything new is good at this point... but it's worrying to see that Chrysler and Fiat made the same mistake: multiplying models in brands 'à-la-mode', while letting the OG, the main brand, that gave the group its name falter around one or two models that sell, but aren't updated in years. Hopefully the Stellantis merger and new (car loving) management will reinfect life in those brands, and turn everything around, if it's not too late.
Most EV crossovers are bland to be honest. That's what I hate about them, they are literally a "transport vehicle" not a VEHICLE as a car freak would refer to lol
@@FacuGonz3 100%
It has to be bland if they take risks with design it could be a failure
Terry loves yoghurt.
@@tristanrolfe4717 oh true!
Well, I actually really love yoghurt myself 🤭🤫 but I wouldn't call it a revolutionary idea 😂
I gotta watch this. Greetings from Jerry Ulm Dodge in Tampa.
I always will love the Chrysler for the Sebring convertibles. I had two and they were beaters but they were fun as hell to be in
4:50 Gotta love a well-designed [bleep] pit.
I saw the ME 4-12 at a car show in Austin TX. We were there late and few people were left in attendance. It was roped off with a representative standing guard.
I asked if I could sit in it and check it out and he said "Yes." It was a pretty unforgettable moment for me. At the time I was really into concept cars and wanted to be an automotive designer, so it was pretty special.
did you follow your dreams though?!
@@walidsadaoui8238 I mean, from his username I’d say sorta.
@@anthonynelson2005 ohh...I defenetly missed it, way to go though
1965 Chrysler 300L Convertible was one I could love…long, low, wide…and those headlights..!
I really hope the Airflow makes it to production. I really like it. If it can really do 400 mile range as an EV and be affordable to middle-class people, I think it will do great. I just hope that they have the production capability. It seems like a model that while it would do well, you wouldn't really see many of (or at least where I live due to the lack of EV infrastructure). However, it being an EV, I assume it will have a way to charge at home, so as long as you have a carport or a garage you can install a charger in, that would be sufficient. If not, going back to 400 mile range would allow a lot more ease of mind if you can't charge at home, though I'm not sure what the phantom drain on a typical EV is like.
If it does make it to production, and assuming I have the ability to do so, I would consider buying it. I think Teslas look too bland and I don't like how EVERYTHING is in the center display screen, including the speedometer. I wish cars would stop putting everything in an infotainment screen, however. I would still like actual buttons and knobs for things like A/C and volume controls.
PT cruisers were so popular that I remember playing "punch buggy" with my grandma and there were so many cruisers on the road that she eventually added "Bruiser cruiser" to the game.
PT Cruisers is a rare Chrysler L
I love the PT Cruiser Dream Cruiser. Someday I'd like to own one.
It may not be reliable but it had character and the made me happy to see this odd looking thing going down the street
My boomer wife and I still drive a PT Cruiser bought new in 2004. I liked it enough to replace my 1999 Grand Am with a low mileage 2006 5-speed about 7 years ago.
PT Cruisers are a running joke in the design community. How to create a vehicle that is both functionally bad and also aesthetically awful.
Genuinely, Chrysler dropped the ball by not using the hype of the Hellcat/Redeye/Demon and noy making a 300 SRT Hellcat or a gravity performance model. Thats my opinion. The chassis are Similar and it could of easily been done. Easy fix with alot of money but it will never happen now because of EV requirements🤷♂️
As a owner of a 300 srt8 I've always wished they would have as you see people that did hellcat swaps, Chrysler ended the 300srt line because it fell off basically but they 100% choked on that call
Which EV requirements are you referring to friend?
Please visit Klah_SRT
He made some things.
He might be Detroit
IDK
@@laatl824 zero emissions targets from governments across the world.
i got a 5.7 300c and am looking into a hellcat or newer scatpack but i prefer the 300 body over the charger and challenger also in california so modification isnt a option :/
Roote’ing for Chrysler (see what I did there) - apologies - anyway. Great video great points. The Pacifica AWD is actually a fantastic vehicle that does not deserve to fade away. How about giving the Audi AllRoad/ MB AllTerrain/ Volvo CrossCountry treatment to it and get it there as an iconic suv alternate - lifted (with adj height suspension)/ rugged arches/ big grippy wheels/ some matt all terrain paint chunky trim thing. Think Mazda MPV of yore. Add enough modest extra tech (eg adj height/ hybrid awd - maybe plug-in) and top line power make this the model range leader. This not a big capital project - but could highlight and halo this great vehicle.
You forgot the first generation Pacifica...had one,was a great vehicle for awhile
That Airflow looks production ready, at least on the outside… it’s too bad they cannot sell it now because in a few years the market is going to be flooded with other EVs and there will be a lot of stiff competition
We are in a space race for EVs the first manufacturers to hit 600mi or hybrid platforms to drive 1000mi will win it all. Will we see it in 10years no, but that is the milestone that will separate the best manufacturer from the rest. That or something new needs to take over like flying/hover cars.
It looks awful. I will never own an EV. Ever.
@@engineerisengihere44 Interesting statement... What kind of special abilities does the petrol or diesel powered car have that u use (at least 6 times a year) that an Electricity powered car cannot?
Looks will change for cars every few years, your diesel or petrol powered counterpart will in a few years look like every other electric vehicle from the in-and-outside... Brands like BMW are already making exactly the same petrol, diesel and electric powered vehicles... Pick your size, look, options but also your drivetrain... Where I live the electric powered ones are just cheaper to buy, run and then trade-in to get a new one if you drive a car for a few years... (if you drive 15.000 km / 10.000 miles or more every year) And a lot faster cars for daily use for the same amount of money...
@@b100pech 1. Cool engine noises 2. I can put cool mods on 3. Burn out 4. Easily disable few things and do cool thing ei dounts, lil drifting and the list can go one. Internal combustion are simply cooler there obviously cool things about ev but not as cool and good ol gas baby
@@b100pech Let's just say that there's parts of this beautiful world where is waaaaaayyyyyy easier to find gasoline, diesel, or any fossil fuel than keeping the lights on for periods longer than four hours.
Trust me, I know. I lived there, and there's NO WAY an EV could be a viable solution under such conditions.
Fun fact: When I, being German, was a kid, I thought Chrysler was french because in the 70s, they rebadged Talbot models…
You mean Chryslers were rebadged as Talbots, but Chrysler was indeed French, having owned Simca. The Horizon was mostly a French design, though a version was also made in the US. Chrysler sold their European operations to Peugeot-Citroen, just like GM did with Opel and Vauxhall.
Sounds a little bit like me as a kid thinking that Subaru was Australian because of the Crocodile Dundee commercials, then I started playing Gran turismo.
The regal is also a Holden commador in New Zealand
I loved my pt cruiser it was so practical I can fit my daughters small atv in the back with the seats out
The funny thing (to me) is that I hated the PT Cruiser the moment I saw it and had a similar reaction to the first version of the 300C. To me, it looked like a retro car based on the designs of 1978, which is not a good thing. I think it's gotten progressively better looking with each facelift/redesign, tho.
LoL 1978... Nailed that one. Only Chrysler would do a retro design to the dark ages of the automotive industry.
@@brianlee9233 some guy who lives near loves them he’s had 3. 3 PT cruisers.
@@brianlee9233 I do hate them a lot they are worst thing to come out of the US.
If there's any era that would be a good callback to these days, it would be the 80's/90's era of aerodynamic form and minimal/no grill, and the elimination of the need for a front mounted radiator can further enhance the styling cues, ala the c4 corvette/ford taurus(and crown vic of the era)/dodge stealth(and the weird compact charger)
Pt cruiser and 300 were one of the best sellers and actually good cars
My parents had an Aspen and my first car was a used Sebring....That was enough for me to never touch a Chrysler again. Those 2 vehicles had more problems than the rest of the vehicles my family has ever owned combined. I've heard nothing but horror stories about the 200 as well. I'll be interested to see where the brand goes from here, but it has about 15 years of consumer apathy to make up for at this point.
I own a Sebring convertible 2010 rn, bought used a 150k mileage 🤦♂️. Big mistake. I love the car, it’s aesthetic and drive but the amount of issues is crazy. Motivated me to start working on it myself
That is very close to my story. Mine was not the convertible, but I bought it with 100k miles and it had so many issues I started learning how to work on it myself with my dad. I babied that thing because I was so scared of it breaking down on me, but there was no saving it. I think at around 117k miles it needed a ton of front-end suspension work and I just didn't have the time or tools to do it, so I sold it for almost nothing. I could even feel the transmission starting to slip so it was just a terrible vehicle.
It was kind of funny at the time my younger brother was driving a Subaru that was about 5 years older with like 70k more miles on it and it lasted him for 3 more years after I got rid of mine. Learned my lesson the hard way!
I hope yours doesn't give you too much more trouble!
@@MrReelio3 dude we lived through the same issues 😂 . Mine sat 116k rn and I just replaced the lower 2 ball joints, my first ever job on a car will be to replace the wheel hub. Hopefully I can do it. I love the car but man it’s been too many issues at this point. If I can ask how much did you buy and sell it for?
@@samwaelarmoush2321 Wow, crazy how similar it is. I did the front wheel hubs on mine myself, and then about 6 months later it needed ball joints (and control arms/tie-rod ends). That's when I got rid of it. The thermostat and the starter also died during the time I owned it, so I was getting sick of it.
I believe I paid around $4200 (Canadian) for it and sold it after 2.5 years for $800 (Canadian). Definitely not the best investment I ever made.
@@MrReelio3 it’s all good tho, things come and go. I was incorrect last comment it’s actually at 161k miles. I payed more than you for a more worn out car, I made the worse investment my friend 🤦♂️. I hope the car you have now is treating you good brother and I wish you the best
I enjoyed this and don't disagree in the main. Car business is two words and we often concentrate only on the cars. Youmade the business case and I appreciate that.
You might be a bit more skeptical than I regarding the ability of Stellantis to provide the retailers (dealers) with products that sustain sales. The dodge Hornet owes a lot to Alfa. Many of the Stellantis marques are not sold in the US and any "re-badging" is likely to go unnoticed just as the Chinese Buick's provenance has.
I'll be looking for your videos in future. My favorite Chrysler product probably the 1965 Plymouth Belvedere. I know, there's a lot to choose from. My favorite car that Iacocca co-opted? The AMX.
Quick note here: American Motors and its predecessors Nash-Kelvinator, Nash Motors, and Jeffreys never went bankrupt.
Bruh why did you guys bleep out cockpit I'm dying 😂
we bought a 2021 Chrysler pacifica AWD, being here in canada the mini van was so impressive on the snow. my wife and I like it so much that we even named it the land yacht. smooth ride, classy styling and functional features. it was our first american brand vehicle and we were impressed.
You should have ridden in a 94 town and country with all wheel drive, those are fun.
sell it before the warranty is up, they eat camshafts.
@@sinclairlewis2061 and transmissions, and tie-rods, and....
As well as cooling system failures at the back of the vans. Imagine your coolant pissing out by your rear tire, how will you notice that?
@@thelazarous I think every Chrysler eats tire-rods, control arms, etc.... Those are a nightmare for me.
Stellantis sounds like the perfect combination of far too many weak brands swirling around in a mega corporation existing in several countries: in other words a complete lack of focus and direction. It sounds similar to the old GM.
Never heard dodge, Alfa and Maserati called weak brands but okay?
@@GoodOlPastaCake Have you heard about their sales figures ? Theses are weak brands, Peugeot, Fiat and Opel are probably the strongest of the bunch...
@@GoodOlPastaCake dodge is a weak brand. They aren't making trucks anymore and their cars are not all that good looking(in my opinion).
@@GoodOlPastaCake what are those brands? Never heard of them
@@GoodOlPastaCake Do you know how to read numbers. Maserati and Alfa are considered expensive unreliable garbage that no one outside of Italy buys. As for dodge they aren't doing as bad, but they are far from being in a good spot
I still miss the 300M & Concord Limited. The Aspen was pretty dope too.
My mom and sister owned no less than three pt cruisers between them. They were super popular.
“Bring them an EV” shows how out of touch CEOs are nowadays. People can’t even afford to buy used car, forget about an EV with a way to charge at home. The middle class really needs an affordable, reliable car that’s good on gas.
Jetta & Golf, regular stock gas engine, gets 50 at 50, 45 at 65, & 30-35 at 80.
You sit just under 28 mpg at 90 mph on flat ground!
And as to parts, they are as expensive as people make them out to be, or as they used to be either.
Bad luck does happen, but thankfully, all my stuff that has broken has just been the basics.
Hope that helps!!!
Amen
EV = government subsidies . More incentive to build and sell EV.
FWIW, our Pacifica Hybrid was similarly priced to the ICE version with similar features. A LOT of our travel tends to be within the charge range (30-ish miles) which (even before the recent increases) is a lot cheaper than gas. I've done a nearly 500 mile trip with a tank of gas and one charge. We are on the lower side of middle income.
> The middle class really needs an affordable, reliable car that’s good on gas.
If so, why do they keep buying SUVs instead of sedans, hatchbacks and station wagons?
The dodge magnum is the sickest wagon to ever hit the streets, I’d love to mod one someday
I have one, sucks aftermarket parts are a real pain to find though.
Volvo v70R IMO.
E30 wagon is better
THE UGLIEST WAGON TO EVER BE MADE
Cheap GM junk. Much prefer a Cadillac CTS V Wagon with 500 horsepower and it has a nicer interior. Cadillacs are also junk but at least they have nicer feeling materials
If I'm not mistaken the most current versions of the 300C ditched the Hemi for a semi saucy V6 right?
Goodluck with the EV’s, I’m still blasting the speakers while driving in my 1988 Chrysler Le Baron;)
I'm on my second Chrysler 300 and I just love them. Reliable, comfy, good-looking, good-handling. Raised a Ford guy but I tried and liked the Intrepid, until they stopped making those, then moved up to the 300 AWD and it reminded me of my SAAB 900 in good ways. I comparison shopped the 300 against the Ford Taurus and it looked better and had more functional room than the Ford. I would buy another 300 without question and would be interested in one that was electric. Yeah, I'm old: turned 60 and retired. Added a hidden hitch to the 300 and I tow a little folding trailer and sometimes a small boat with it to and from the local lake. Who needs a pickup or crossover?
You do know that when introduced, the 300 was on the platform of the MB E Class that was being replaced by a new E Class on a new platform? Basically, to this day, it’s a now 25 year old Mercedes cast-off. Since the 300s intro, there have been 4 new generations of E Class, each on a brand new platform. That’s not to say the 300 isn’t a decent car, but it’s way past its sell-by date.
@@Twittler1 exactly, it needs an overhaul and can made good again, same with the charger. I feel as if the 300 wouldve had more sales with better marketing and more engine options.
300s are nice cars. One of the few gems.
HOW MANY MILES?
@@german80 *ALL THE MILES!*
As a owner of a 2011 Chrysler 300, I really hope they don't get rid of the 300. It's an absolutely beautiful car and it has it's unique style which is iconic in my opinion. I've also never had an issue with the car since owning it from 2016. Just regular maintenance and that's all. I really don't understand how people just bash the Chrysler Brand by saying they're unreliable, etc... Family members have mopar cars and no issues whatsoever. Looking to possibly upgrade to a newer Chrysler 300 in the future!
As an owner of a 2011 Chrysler 200 with over 200,000 miles (owned since 19k) who has spent around $50 in non-routine maintenance, and having family/friends who have also had excellent experience with Mopars, I fully agree that the perception of poor reliability is unwarranted, or at the very least, blown out of proportion.
Love my 2007 Chrysler 300c allot of space and comfortable features automatic seats and seat warmers and when you needed some fun just hit the gas and she goes
yep would hate to see the 300 go i love my 13 hemi
As long as you can keep the front Tension Arms tight, they were great cars............................Sadly the older E-series platform from Merc, wasn't designed for an additional 500lbs on the nose.
A new Lee Iaccoa, where are you?? I think it would be very bad if Chrysler disappeared. Not enough is being said about Mopar cars that have not been troublesome to their owners. A new advertising campaign might really help.
I once owned a brand new beautiful blue 2009 Chrysler 300c, American Heritage. Loved it.
Love the Pacifca typo in there lol
I'm a Mopar fan and I feel like I've seen this coming a mile away with the diminishing line up and the end of Plymouth. I always thought the Chrysler should of been the luxury brand, not just a premium brand. RIP Chrysler
Chrysler used to be a luxury brand in the 50s but not anymore
As a (north-west) European we only had some Chryslers that sold well 10 to 20 years back, with the most familiar being the C300's or that small retro styled hatchback thing they made...
The retro thing was to most Europeans a cheaper and "more useful" (more interior space) attempt at stealing away some marketshare of the first gen VW new Beatle that people liked for there retro look...
The Chrysler C300 was just a very cheap looking Mercedes E klasse (same tech, same size, same ride, C300 has just cheap materials)... and Mercedes is not even a luxury brand to me, just a premium brand using Renault/Nissan tech for there smaller cars... Chrysler calling itself a premium brand its even weird to a European...
If I think of a luxury brand I would say maybe a Mercedes Maybach or Alpine, up to cars like a Bentley...
Now I know Chryslers market focus is in the US, not Europe... But in the US you can buy most European premium cars like BMWs, Mercedes*, or Audis, maybe Alfa Romeos (I don't know if they sell them in the US)...So I would not say the Chryslers are luxury cars, because in my experience a Chrysler is not as well designed, use nice materials, or things like panel gap consistency to most European premium car brands (who also sell in the US)...
Don't you agree? Or are my 2 Chryslers models that I've been in and seen a lot just one of the worst Chryslers ever build?
To me a premium car has to be at least "a lot better" then a VW Golf when it comes to build quality, material use, "luxury gadgets" (things you don't need but are fancy in a "old-money" way or bring more comfort... As for Europeans the VW Golf is the most "average" car there is for decades)...
*Mercedes these days make some shitty cars too (that to me should not be called premium), take the GLE for example, that's not a premium car just a regular one with a very expensive Mercedes badge (looking at build quality, especially panel gaps and the materials used on the floor or "below the knee" when sitting down)...
@@b100pech “retro styled hatchback thing” imagine not knowing what a PT cruiser is
@@yungboicontigo9278 So I heard the Trabant and the Yugo was your favourite car Doug?
@@yungboicontigo9278 I can't help how insignificant Chrysler is in Europe...
I don't know about everyone else's experience with Chrysler but mine was it's an old stuffy expensive brand that broken down quite often. Not sure how they plan to get people into seats, but they need something like a killer warranty like Kia/Hyundai had to do to even get people to look at them early on.
I have an 05 T&C limited that’s been through hell and back. As much hate as the minivan gets. Its really a great car. Practical stow and go leather seats, and a 3.8 liter motor powerful enough to light up the front tires at a stomp of the throttle. Great car.
Learn to take care of your car. All my Chrysler products have been very reliable.
@@waterloo123100 to an extent it probably depends where you live the Chrysler’s we get in the UK are all extremely rusty and the 2 people I know who owned one ended up having to having to scrap them despite them only being about 6 to 10 years old at the time.
@@waterloo123100 I did but I can’t control bad electronics, alternator failing, AC failure, broken park release, faulty temp gauge and water pump leak causing engine to seize shortly after oil change. I loved my car and moneys not the issue but I’m never buying Chrysler.
An uncle of mine owned a 300C SRT8 and it was an absolute piece of machinery. Used it a lot on my first semester as a freshman.
For a car of it's size, it was very soft and easy to drive. Quiet as mouse in low-revs, but it roared high when hitting the throttle. Fuel consumption was a bit lower than average, but in contrast with the "stock" 300C, it was far more reliable. Apparently, the electronics of the SRT version had better quality than the regular version. Also, the interior was slightly better.
It didn't feel cheap, just delicate.
I had a Mercedes few years later and I had to get rid of it.
It wasn't delicate. Just outright fragile.
I would love something like an electric pt cruiser. I haven’t seen an affordable electric convertible
Opel Mokka would be a nice effort at a PT Cruiser revamp. It won Top Car of the Year, has quirky & unique styling, & won't cost much to Federalize. I know Chrysler wants to shift upmarket with new Lancia but they need a volume car
Wheelhouse has always been my favorite show on donut's channel. Always discussing interesting topics in the auto world. Keep it up guys! I'll stay tuned in 😉👌
I know some former chrysler engineers. Man I wish Chrysler was their own company. I think the feeling of not being independent for so long has lended to this loss of identity.
What Chrysler really needs is way better quality control. And it's good to have an EV option available but those won't be volume sellers in time for the 10 year plan.
i just got a used 2018 Chrysler 300S on DEC 3rd 2022
i love the car especially since i had a 2006 chevrolet uplander then a 2013 mazda 3 skyactive
I'm 30, and I love station wagons. I had a conversation about them once with a woman about twenty years older than me, and she said she hated them. Based on the eras in which we grew up, her hate of station wagons matched my hate of minivans. That said, most people twenty to thirty years older than me seem to share my love of station wagons, so she may have been an outlier.
Crossovers don't seem to quite fall into the same category as wagons and minivans, though. Yes, they are "lame" family haulers just like wagons and minivans, but they seem to be a lot more prevalent and bought by many people _without_ big families. They're just like an amalgamation of all vehicles types into the most boring thing you could possibly make that simultaneously suits the needs of almost all people, and thus are the vehicle of choice for anyone who has no dignity left.
I’m good with both wagons and minivans. I can even stomach the bland as water crossovers. It’s the oversized monster SUVs and trucks that can disappear forever.
@@ThatRanMan I have no gripe with the jumbo SUVs. Not my vehicle preference, but they don't bother me. I can agree on the ridiculous pickups, though. I think the difference for me is because of how the majority of the owners perceive their vehicles.
The SUV owners usually have it for a practical purpose: They have a big family or they have a medium family and need the extra space for extracurricular equipment/vacation luggage.
On the other hand, the people who drive the obnoxious trucks do it because they think it is "cool". It's not cool. Trucks are utility vehicles; they don't need to be fast and they don't need to be flashy. Your turbo diesel is obnoxious. And your lift kit isn't fooling anyone; we all know that thing never leaves the pavement.
I'm also in my 30s, and desire both wagons and minivans. They're both best at what they do - using less fuel than vehicles with similarly large interiors while handling better, or just being more spacious than other vehicles the same exterior size.
Most SUVs are ridiculous - why have a Rav4 when an AWD Sienna has the same fuel consumption while hauling 4x8 sheets of plywood and the no longer available Corolla wagon could give the same space as the Rav4 while handling better and using less gas.
In the state of Michigan, mini-vans
and SUVs are classified as station wagons.
@@virgilwyatt4632, that makes sense because they can all be described as "two box," where one box is the engine bay and the other is for people/cargo. Sedans are "three box," and I suppose pickups are as well.
Yes, when I was young you wouldn't want to be caught dead in a wagon. In the mid 80s to 90s it was mini vans that took over. When I started driving in 96 you wouldn't want to be driving either a van or wagon. Now they are cool.
When I was young and a teenager it was a four-door you didn’t want to be caught driving dead in. Except when I was 17. I had a awesome sweet ass four-door it was a 1966 tempest with a 389 GTO motor in it it was basically a four-door GTO it was extremely fast I wish I still had it today and would’ve listen to my parents when they said never let one of your friends drive your car. Parents have good advice unfortunately young kids are stupid and don’t listen.
My buddy would fold the rear seats down in his wagon and us 3 big dudes would take naps during lunch. No shame when military dudes sleep anywhere with buds.
I pray they do what they have too! I have a 2006 300C SRT8 and want the next generation of something fierce from them!
There’s a video of the 412 out at a car meet idk how authentic it is but man it looks gorgeous
9:34 the way Nolan said “the Sebring was there too” was like how Family Guy barely acknowledges Meg as a character lmao
The 200 spent more of it's years as a renewed Sebring - the body style shown when calling it a dressed up Dart was actually the result of Chrysler taking the Sebring and bringing it more in line with the 300 aesthetically. It was replaced with a 200 based on the FCA Dart, but this version of the 200 only lasted about 2 of the 200's 6 years
I used to think the 200 was another name for the sebring or trim
its years*
The PT Cruiser needed a V6 option. That 4 banger wasn't enough for an iconic body style.
2011 t and c vans, 2011 and up 300 for me that's it. LHS and it's cousins favs for me. They could put more back seat room in 300 models. While it looks sharp Voyager looks like 2001 van.