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  • What's inside the new Amazon Kindle Paperwhite Ebook Reader?
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Komentáře • 397

  • @RyuRaccoon
    @RyuRaccoon Před 8 lety +63

    The Kindle turned on and off due to a magnetic sensor. Also, the rf covers just pop off the fences, they are not soldered on but the fences are. The extra shielding is probably required so they don't have to be turned off when on an airplane.

  • @BobofWOGGLE
    @BobofWOGGLE Před 8 lety +28

    Man even if you filled up all that extra space with battery, do you really want a battery large enough last a quarter of a year? You'd forget the thing even needs charging!

  • @AlTheEngineer
    @AlTheEngineer Před 8 lety +6

    Absolutely enjoy your blogs! As an engineer and as a nerd! You hit the spot with every topic!

  • @mrbishi1000
    @mrbishi1000 Před 9 lety +2

    Great teardown mate, love your work, spot on.

  • @hjalfi
    @hjalfi Před 8 lety +21

    The serial flash chip on the flex board contains the waveform information needed to drive the eink display. Each display is different, so they'll calculate the waveform in production and program the chip. It'll be on the flex board so it's physically attached to the screen to make tracking easier.

    • @mscir
      @mscir Před 5 lety +4

      Can you post links to more reading on that? I've never heard of that, thanks.

  • @TheSpatialTheory
    @TheSpatialTheory Před 9 lety +5

    That little 4 pin device has to be a hall effect sensor or a tiny reed switch for it to cause the kindle to turn on like that in response to the (presumably magnetized) screwdriver. It's probably the sensor that let's the kindle turn on and off when you open and close the cover/case.

  • @ARMALON87
    @ARMALON87 Před 8 lety +14

    "Look at this strange looking sh*t, I have no idea what's all about, but it's just awesome!"
    No offence, I love that guy, he is terrific! =)

    • @mscir
      @mscir Před 5 lety

      LOL, I was just going to say something just like that.

  • @migsmog
    @migsmog Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome vid! My 2014 Paperwhite stopped responding and wouldn't reset by holding the power button. I suspect it had to do with leaving it to charge overnight on a USB dongle powered by a USB-C power brick. I just needed a visual guide on getting inside safely. Once I did I unscrewed the battery and left it out for 1-2 minutes before reseating it. I was able to restart my Kindle before reassembling. Saved me from having to upgrade to a new Paperwhite / Oasis

  • @ChrisR3tro
    @ChrisR3tro Před 11 lety

    Love this teardown, very interesting. Keep em coming!

  • @dancraggs
    @dancraggs Před 11 lety +2

    The SD-like connector could be exactly that, an SD connector. The SDs have nine pins, but one of the pins 'pin 8' (actually just past your pin 1) is a half-pin. Pin 6 is the ground, but the far side numbering starts at 7 (9 is weirdly on the other side), so would be in the pin 2 position you pointed out if the card was inserted upside down... which since the Kindle was on its back at the time would make perfect sense.

  • @PassiveSmoking
    @PassiveSmoking Před 9 lety +30

    Weird that they've apparently gone to a lot of effort to make the guts of the machine easily serviceable, and then glued the whole thing together in the end.
    BTW, is there a good reason not to heat the glue first before trying to pry the front off? You know, with a hair dryer or something?

    • @coriscotupi
      @coriscotupi Před 8 lety +5

      +PassiveSmoking A few months ago I replaced my GPS's broken touch screen and the only way I could get the old one out was blowing hot air. A heat gun was somewhat of an overkill, so the wife's hair drier did the job nicely.

    • @rookm13
      @rookm13 Před 8 lety +1

      +PassiveSmoking If you use a hotplate it becomes easy to separate.

    • @coriscotupi
      @coriscotupi Před 8 lety +1

      ***** Sad to hear your bad experience. I fixed my GPS with no problems using a hair drier to get the old touch screen off.

    • @coriscotupi
      @coriscotupi Před 8 lety +2

      ***** I hear you. I once had a smartphone whose WiFi stopped working about a week after warranty expired and everywhere I took it attempting to fix they said it was not worth it because of cost. Technology is great when it works, but sometimes it just turns around to bite us.

    • @sheeplord4976
      @sheeplord4976 Před 2 lety

      Cheap to service for warranties, but impossible to fix yourself.

  • @bramvandenbroeck5060
    @bramvandenbroeck5060 Před 4 lety +3

    15:30 The iPad's uses a similar sensor (its magnetic based) for use with their magic covers, so when you open up the cover, the device wakes up without you having to push anything.

  • @clementkirton
    @clementkirton Před 8 lety +13

    The Thing that made it switch on at 15:40 was for the cases. so probably magnetic as the paperwhite turns on when i open the case.

  • @Minedrafter
    @Minedrafter Před 10 lety +5

    The "magic screwdriver" is a magnetc Sensor for the protecting case

  • @compactc9
    @compactc9 Před 11 lety +1

    Here in Denver, CO, we have a toll road that, like most of them these days, has the option of setting up and account with them and getting a transponder that a scanner reads as you drive under it without stopping. They've switched to using these sticker tags which are just RFID tags much like this that you stick in the corner of the windshield, its pretty cool!

  • @doublejnyc
    @doublejnyc Před 10 lety +16

    Dude, I know nothing about electronics but your narration was totally entertaining. You could do live commentary of grass growing and I'd sit spellbound. BTW, where would the "storage" be? I have a broken paperwhite and I want to destroy it properly.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    Good point, didn't think of that!

  • @danielmusat597
    @danielmusat597 Před 4 lety +1

    A real state of the art design!!! That part that you were touching to turn on the Kindle is a magnetic sensor for the flip-shell (or whatever name might have). There is no flaw in the design. And the LEDs are Osram (CUW Y3SH). And thank you for not tearing it down. It would be a pity to break it.

  • @gestapo9
    @gestapo9 Před 11 lety

    hardly any review have i ever seen with such precision .. and the guy has a good presentation style too.

  • @JamesEncliffe
    @JamesEncliffe Před 7 lety +2

    The Kindle case has a magnet to switch it on when the lid is opened. Probabaly a hall effect sensor. Your screwdriver is slightly magnetic.

  • @thexshattered
    @thexshattered Před 11 lety

    You make the BEST teardown vids

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    It possibly hold calibration data for the E-Ink display, so makes sense to have it on the flex. That way a separate test jig can be used to calibrate and store the data for each one.

  • @Kugruabay
    @Kugruabay Před 11 lety

    Looks like a well engineered product. hats of to kindle. thanks EEVblog

  • @GamingGadgetsTechnology
    @GamingGadgetsTechnology Před 11 lety

    very interesting! can't wait to buy one!

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety +2

    No, it's a standard US model, shipped from Amazon US.

  • @SolidStateWorkshop
    @SolidStateWorkshop Před 11 lety

    Always was impressed by Kindle. Great video Dave.

  • @luminausea
    @luminausea Před 9 lety +4

    another wonderfully done episode and very entertaining, too - THANKS!
    Has anyone an idea if it would be possible to tint the leds a bit in order to give the paperwhite an even but warm light color? I always color my clip on reading lights for a very warm, orange light using colored film for studio lights.
    Would be a blast for me to have that relaxing light color for a paperwhite, but built in :D
    Any advice highly appreciated - thanks!

  • @ironspider1960
    @ironspider1960 Před 11 lety +1

    I agree, from an electronics perspective very nice design and great attention to detail. I'm guessing as this this will get used just about everywhere including aircraft and hospitals RFI/EMI was a major concern.

  • @Caribman9999
    @Caribman9999 Před 9 lety

    This is very informative for the most part, though most of the extra space mentioned at 7:28-7:50, with a suggestion that it be utilized by installing a bigger battery, is actually occupied by a transmitting module - probably the 3G receiver- in the units that I've seen. The 3G module (if my guess is right about it being that) has a snap-in connection, mounted on the MB at the upper tip of the board at the center right next to the battery.

  • @technogeek48
    @technogeek48 Před 11 lety

    i love eink, the screen reads "repair needed" while your holding the main board in your hand!

  • @spacewolfjr
    @spacewolfjr Před rokem

    I replaced my battery in my PaperWhite thanks to your teardown, thanks Dave!

  • @veetour
    @veetour Před 11 lety +2

    Love the way he keeps saying "I have no idea what that is."

  • @alhdlakhfdqw
    @alhdlakhfdqw Před 10 lety

    great videos man,TQ very much. :)

  • @badmofo350
    @badmofo350 Před 7 lety +2

    Could the black shroud over the LED be there to keep the light from bleeding onto the display?

  • @thexshattered
    @thexshattered Před 11 lety

    You're so curious I love it.

  • @Max404s
    @Max404s Před 11 lety

    Great video. Interesting and educational. Subscribed.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff Před 11 lety

    All Kindle displays have a flash chip on the flex - this is for data to normalize out production variations - I read the one on the original Kin and it didn't have enough to be per-pixel cal. Read somewhere it contains firmware for the Epson controller

  • @sirp0p0
    @sirp0p0 Před 11 lety

    That new office lighting is definitely working well.

  • @snik2pl
    @snik2pl Před 11 lety +1

    Few years ago you could buy "Afterburner internal light" for gameboy advance. It was designed to be mounted on the screen and not behind the screen. The idea is the same, but screen is much bigger.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    Just like a regular kindle. But I didn't have not done a side-by-side comparison yet.

  • @LPFthings
    @LPFthings Před 11 lety +1

    They probably made the power switch easily detachable, as usually they are the first things to fail in such devices. Would be super easy to replace with how they've set it up.

  • @Jeffparanormia
    @Jeffparanormia Před 11 lety

    Amen! I've been a Kindle user for years, no complaints about battery life here, and I read a LOT!

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    BTW, for those following along, this video was done with the same built-in mic as the last video, but without the "automatic gain" (compressor/limiter) turned on.

  • @Kurazaybo
    @Kurazaybo Před 4 lety

    I remember folllowing the whole Triton Labs saga about building a kit to light the screen of the game boy advance, it worked pretty much like the light in the kindle

  • @SirDrinksAlot69
    @SirDrinksAlot69 Před 11 lety +1

    Maybe the unpopulated qfn chip near the power button is something for testing, like something like a micro controller that is used for remote manipulation. We used to do something similar but run off to an external board rather than have it built right onto the pcb.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff Před 11 lety

    Clock is optional , so power, data, reset - looks like clock is optional for GSM type SIMs. The used pins on the footprint correspond to an interleaved sideways SIM footprint as well.

  • @maegan8893
    @maegan8893 Před 9 lety

    I was wondering if you could either make an instructional video or direct me to one in replacing the usb charger port on the paperwhite. I've had my kindle a little over a year and the port is so loose, I can't charge it. This video is great. I now know how to take the unit apart in general, but not how to replace that one thing.

  • @Jahooba
    @Jahooba Před 11 lety

    Excellent tear-down, thank you! Your accent is great, too, lol.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    A win for HD!

  • @EwanMarshall
    @EwanMarshall Před 9 lety

    EEVblog With powering it up with the screwdriver were you triggering the reed switches for the auto sleep/wake on case close/open?

  • @KaineVarley
    @KaineVarley Před 9 lety +5

    Hey Dave,
    Great tear down, thx. Love the enthusiasm for the magnetic switch. Am I right in guessing that all of the shielding is because readers like this are used in sensitive areas such as hospitals and on planes?
    Also, I'm a Kobo user (don't have much love for Amazon), I wonder how Kindle and Kobo stack up against each other. Have you done any side-by-side testing?
    Cheers,
    Kaine

  • @GadgetBoy
    @GadgetBoy Před 6 lety

    A heat gun set to a low temperature will help immensely with those adhesive attachments.

  • @mrLuke74896
    @mrLuke74896 Před 11 lety

    Thank god, I was so bored and then you uploaded this

  • @wpauli71
    @wpauli71 Před 11 lety

    the MXIC flash memory contains panel specific parameters, like the common voltage and the waveform file associated with the EInk material build of the foil that's laminated on the backplane.

  • @ToTheWind
    @ToTheWind Před 10 lety

    Great video. I just have one question if anyone could answer it.
    Is there any chance of the plastic power button falling out when I open the case because the button itself only pushes onto a tactile switch. If I open the case and remove the main board, how does the plastic power button stay inside? Is it held in place by something?
    Kind Regards

  • @paullangton-rogers2390
    @paullangton-rogers2390 Před 8 lety +2

    Always loved the screens on the Kindle's very clever idea and design.. but never personally owned one or saw much point in them. My mother is a huge fan tho has one and 100s of books on it.
    Loved the teardown, really interesting to see how they made those backlit screens. That is really strange how the screen came on by some metallic contact with the circuit and/or LED!
    Did you ever figure out why caused that? If it happened with your finger too my guess would be some design feature, like a sensor of some kind so if you powered off in dark and wanted to use it again, you have a few minutes to touch the panel bezel and it comes back on..but obviously not if it's only metallic and there's no metal plating over that area on the bezel underside?

  • @veetour
    @veetour Před 11 lety +1

    I wished they had used six LEDs instead, which would have made the lighting more uniform. But I think that would both increase the Kindle PW price and also the decrease the battery life.

  • @TheFrenchMansControl
    @TheFrenchMansControl Před 7 lety

    Might do something smart where they use the LED driver short circuit detection to detect the on or off button press, seen that implementation before.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    Didn't seem to have enough connected pins for that either.

  • @deathventure
    @deathventure Před 11 lety

    It's a tool term, but it applies to any number of probes/wedges used in different industries for probing, prodding and exploration.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    I forgot the spare battery for the lapel mic AGAIN! Wasn't going back home to get it...

  • @eerikhm
    @eerikhm Před 11 lety +1

    Love to see Dave baffled by a simple reed switch :)

  • @Nater_Tater
    @Nater_Tater Před 11 lety

    All right I will. Thank you.

  • @mspark400smith2
    @mspark400smith2 Před 8 lety

    At around 7:35 there is a square 7 pin space on the bottom (as seen)edge of the board that looks almost like it could fit a Sd card slot? Do you know what those pins are connected to or what this unpopulated footprint is?

  • @martinmuunk
    @martinmuunk Před 11 lety

    My thoughts exactly. It would correspond to a magnet fort the "Auto Wake and Sleep" functionality of the official covers for the ting.

  • @nThanksForAllTheFish
    @nThanksForAllTheFish Před 11 lety

    The EEPROM on the flex might be to store factory calibration data for the display.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    Yep, this seems like the most likely scenario.

  • @dalriada842
    @dalriada842 Před 11 lety

    Nice tip on the hair dryer! :)

  • @davidgermain
    @davidgermain Před 11 lety

    a tip for removing the glue as you pry it open, i use a craft knife just after seeing the glue. as you pull the plastic away you can gently cut the glue this prevents over stressing the plastic as you pull it apart,

  • @zeroxia
    @zeroxia Před 11 lety

    You're genius, I just did not think of this.

  • @HarryHutton92
    @HarryHutton92 Před 11 lety +1

    Hey, what is the part number for the e-ink display? From the specs I see its a higher resolution than the previous EInk displays (1024x768 as an upgrade from 800x600), just wondering what model it is? Also, is the light diffusing layer bonded to the eink display?

  • @rotlerin
    @rotlerin Před 11 lety

    Your new LED lighting makes a helluva difference to your vids Dave,. Really nice

  • @Daniel15au
    @Daniel15au Před 11 lety

    Yeah I've got one of the cases as well, but didn't know how it worked. Wasn't sure if it was a magnet or some other sensor. :)

  • @godzil42
    @godzil42 Před 9 lety +1

    The chip on the screen flex is the EEPROM storing the waveform to drive the screen.

    • @drkastenbrot
      @drkastenbrot Před 8 lety

      Apparently it is some voltage drop detection to detect covers and shut the device down when the cover is closed.

    • @godzil42
      @godzil42 Před 8 lety +1

      +drkastenbrot Sorry but it's not what the chip on the screen flex is for.

  • @havefaith96
    @havefaith96 Před 11 lety

    interesting the machining rework on the inside because the back cover mold was not properly designed.

  • @AnthonyChopra
    @AnthonyChopra Před 5 lety

    i remember getting the simcard in the amazon 3 kindle work for free in a cellphone with setting change

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    It's not a reed switch. I completely forgot about these magnetic cover things, and my mind naturally gravitated toward a more technical interference issue.

  • @ayrendraganas8686
    @ayrendraganas8686 Před 9 lety

    perhaps it was the magnetiv field of your srcrewdriver that turned on the kindle

  • @veereswaranv7152
    @veereswaranv7152 Před 6 lety

    Awesome Video...Can you suggest the best charger for this Paperwhite? The battery shows 3.7V..Can I charge it with my 5Volt Galaxy S4 Charger? Which charger is best for Better Battery maintenance...

  • @XanCraft21
    @XanCraft21 Před 6 lety

    What a super sensitive Hall effect sensor, some metal screwdrivers have a low magnetic field on them and it’s just enough to trigger the sensor. Must be a transistor voltage amplifier around hidden to make it that sensitive. I think the sensor may be for a special cover case that when closed it triggers the sensor with a small magnet.

  • @MrMrjacky7
    @MrMrjacky7 Před 6 lety +1

    Is there any possibility to extract the e-ink display and use it with Arduino?

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax Před 5 lety

      certainly possible if you can find the datasheet of the screen part.

  • @Jeffparanormia
    @Jeffparanormia Před 11 lety

    If one turns of the WiFi and/or 3G connection, a Kindle can be used for 2-4 weeks if one is reading without an internal light. I understand the battery life is even greater with the paperwhite. I've used Kindles for 3 years, they are amazing!

  • @alienmoondudes8071
    @alienmoondudes8071 Před 5 lety

    Do you think it's possible to replace the LEDs with a warmer led?

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta Před 11 lety

    My guess is - the LEDs are running on a set of parallel resistors with an IC controlling which resistors are active. That's how I'd do it mainly for simplicity.

  • @Monkeh616
    @Monkeh616 Před 11 lety

    Exactly my point, the battery charge time on the Kindle is already pretty long, ie. overnight. That can help maintain battery lifetime. You'd have to either increase the charge time or reduce the lifetime.

  • @TheSentientCloud
    @TheSentientCloud Před 11 lety

    Love the t-shirt :P *attaches inverter to output* there. Now you can only give positive feedback!

  • @pressyification
    @pressyification Před 10 lety

    Exactly...! In layman terms, its the actual thing that puts your kindle to sleep when you close the kindle magnetic cover...! That screw driver tip was magnetised too...

  • @blackterminal
    @blackterminal Před 7 lety

    I have a more basic kindle without the backlight. I love it.

  • @azyfloof
    @azyfloof Před 11 lety

    Exactly what I was thinking. The LED's should be brighter in darker conditions, and practically off for a bright room. The GUI labelling seems incongruous to this. (13:00 ish)

  • @surrealchemist
    @surrealchemist Před 11 lety

    I have the leather case and it does have this feature. Similar to the ipad smart cover magnets.

  • @sivalley
    @sivalley Před 11 lety

    Footprint and connection lines match a side load latching SIM socket and 3G modem. Pre-planned future version when they rewrite the firmware for a cost-effective modem supplier. Being it will be GSM, I suspect world wide distribution.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff Před 11 lety

    LED rubber probably to stop leakage to screen

  • @MrBarcode
    @MrBarcode Před 11 lety

    Dave, that small device next to the LED's might be a magnet sensor of some sort. My blackberry had one in the phone and a small magnet in the case and it would shut off once it went in the case. Plus it would explain why you could turn it on with the screwdriver and not your finger.

  • @Comptekhs
    @Comptekhs Před 11 lety

    Is the screwdriver magnetic when it switches on at 15:22 when you wave it over it?

  • @mscir
    @mscir Před 5 lety

    Can you set the screen black and the text white? That makes for really nice reading at night in a dark/pitch black room. Less screen energy means less eye fatigue.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    Not sure were the term originated. There are many terms for the same tool.

  • @gryzman
    @gryzman Před 11 lety

    Really cool stuff mate, its a shame it won't be available in the UK until 12th of November. They must be kidding really !

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  Před 11 lety

    Actually, I was really worried I busted it. When put back together the touch screen didn't work and the display was ghosting really bad. Turns out I reconnected the cables *after* the battery. That's a no-no for some reason. After removing that battery again it worked fine.

  • @daniloalongi7655
    @daniloalongi7655 Před 4 lety

    Does the backlight use pwm flickering?

  • @Comptekhs
    @Comptekhs Před 11 lety

    I was thinking I wonder if they made the front that closes together like that to make the case thinner. What is the thickness of the other kindle compared to this version of the case?