Prigozhin doesn't want to end the war in Ukraine, he wants to 'replace Putin' | Michael Clarke
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2023
- "It's not that these guys want to end the war, they want to fight it better. That's the whole point."
Michael Clarke reacts to Prigozhin threatening to march his troops on the Kremlin
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It's not a rebellion.
It's a "special disagreement."
Brilliant😂
workers of the world, unite. ✊
1. pay your bills
2. be loyal to your fellow employees...
3. do not deal with mercinaries in the fxxx military industrial complex.
Or it might be a special military reform operation.
That's funny. Keep it up!
It's personal, vendetta!
Who would have thought creating extremely powerful and largely autonomous private armies was a bad idea??
Perhaps this was why in Russian law mercenary groups were banned and Putin ignored that...now may pay the price, Putin seems completely out of touch with his own people, Russian army and those oligarachs / strong men he has set up.
Blackwater?
Yes, Putin created a monster.
Almost everyone in the US? It's called the second amendment and how people defend themselves against an out-of-control government. It's just called a militia rather than mercenaries.
Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli
I got my popcorn ready!!
They might get ruined if you're not in your Nuclear bunker..hope not
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
And this is a HUGE mistake 😂😂
Or when he’s creating a psy op to destroy NATO.
putin is a j 3 vv , prigozhin is a j 3 vv , ze lenski is a j 3 vv. whatever happens it's not good for the slavs
Napoleon?
@@valcs-dreamscollector3258 BTW...you put the wrong hat on your head. You also forgot to cut out eye and mouth holes. Keep trying.
From the gates of Kyiv to the gates of Moscow. What a brilliant strategist Putin is.
Putin is simply a gangster surrounded by minion gangsters who all want to be the Don. Politics with guns.
I pray god that puttin dDies and Prigozhin replace him.
Truly a very “special” military operation indeed.
Special Military Operation has turned into Special Political Operation
That’s some bare chested, pony-riding 4-D chess right there 😂
Prigozhin mada a big point yesterday of saying that there was No Ukrainian provocation for the war and that it was Shoigu's personal invasion. Much as Prigozhin desires the annhilation of Ukraine he is now in record as saying that they are the innocent party. This quote needs tobe memed and swamp the Russian internet...
Im leaning towards Putin and Prigozhin doing a deal to blame Shoigu , so Putin might have an excuse for the failures? just speculation , but not too far fetched
You can't swamp the Russian internet. There has been plenty of evidence to show the Russian peasants since day 1 of the war.
@@nopants4259 Putin has pretty much called Pregozhin a traitor. So walking back on that isn't that easy. Also Wagner has been shooting down Helicopters and even a transport plane. So Russian soldiers have died in this already.
Making a deal will need a lot of 'Double speak' to straighten that stuff out.
I can accept it if he captures Putin, recalls all Russian forces from Ukraine and Belarus, and sends Putin to The Hague.
@@nopants4259 There is no expression for "too far fetched" in Russia. Everything can be used.
All strength to Ukraine 🇺🇦 🇮🇪🇺🇦
Why the 🇮🇪 your own people are dying on the streets from homelessness while our state is housing Ukrainians
@@Mike-up6hw 😂 Russia is done
@@greg2502 great what is that got to do with what I said
This is how it goes for all psychopathic mass murderers: Everything goes wrong, those they trust turn on them and stab them in the back, their own lies turn against them, their own thoughts and feelings become their worst enemies, and all the dark forces they attracts piles up to conspire against them.
Kind of like what is FINALLY happening to TRUMP! But YES!
Well said
Sounds like my birth
Look at Tony Blair, he seems to be doing ok.
Starts to make sense why Ukraine 🇺🇦 forces allowed Wagner PMC to slip out of Bakmut 🤔
ummmm, no
Exactly right
All that grinding of both sides in Bakhmut didn’t go waste. Thanks to Wagner.
@@SantoshKumar-qe6eqIt created discontent in the RuSSian ranks. I hear you.
Yeah. It looks like they made a deal of some sort.
Putin looks about as credible as that Iraqi information minister right now. Standing in the Kremlin, talking about 1917, saying "it won't happen this time".
Not that ridiculous mr Clark. There are already videos and reports that Wagner are already in Voronezh
No, Michael Clarke, it's not at all ridiculous. Russian history teaches us that the Wagner Group now have only two choices: flee Russia or fight against Putin. Russian purges are infamous, and none of those in Wagner will be given the benefit of the doubt if they fall into the hands of Putin supporters. Also, these are hardened mercenaries who would likely take out several regular Russian soldiers each. Can the regular Russian military afford to lose at least (probably a lot more) 50 thousand regular soldiers in a civil war? What will be the reaction of regions that really want out of the Russian Federation, on seeing this?
consider its there(home) or Africa ...where would u go ?
@@chriswoods662 Not China.
@@chriswoods662 Then they have no choice but to fight.
Incredible that the largest part of the army is the 400k devoted to Putin. It could be messy.
@@govinda102000 I'm sure Prigozhin is betting on, and has been informed, a good number joining his side. He's no fool.
That's how power is ''given' handed in Russia , since forever. A moster replaced with another monster !
Amused that Michael Clark still can't accept that the Ukrainians were correct in predicting that internal conflict would occur in Russia in response to their attack😅 He's still skeptical?!?
He’s the prof, ure not😂😂😂😂
@@Mindsi: Clarke has been completely deluded in his assesment of attacks on e.g. Moscow that if Ukraine were behind it it could be very bad for Ukraine in terms of western support: no itcouldn't as there is no other option but to support Ukraine against a imperialistic leader who would not stop there, so my assesment of his abilities is low. That Clarke is a professor means nothing. I also thought summer 2022 that there would be internal conflict and that the russian federation could fall apart. These are quite obvious and logical possibilities.
And I do agree with him
Ukraine has no chance to execute a regime change in Russia
In worst case it is even a planned deflection to nurture the false hope in best case it is a tempory power struggle with two fraction who both want to continue the war
@@WHS_reviews I don't think Ukraine would directly try to march on Moscow but I could see them giving covert Aid and I don't know if that would be all that oppose by the West.
@@donaldmackerer9032 lol...opposed by the West??? funny. Why on earth would the West oppose that?
I disagree. Russian troops on the front are hearing all this. No way they will agree to fight and die. Russia has lost.
Absolutely ! The end of the war is very near imho
How is your counter offence ? hhahahahaha
I hope all those ruZZian troops go home and help proggy the sledge to take Moscow.
If ruSSian troop morale wasn't deflated before it will be now hearing prighozin say there was no Ukranian provocation just greedy oligarchs eyeing rich Ukranian pickings paid for in ruSSian military blood 💙🇺🇦💛
@@user-in5hs3vy3z Way better than the 3 day special military operation
Don't cheer for Wagner to remove Putin. Anyone who understand the evil commited by Wagner in Africa can only hope that both administer a slow and total destruction of each other.
No. But at least let us be thankful that the chaos created in Moscow will give the Ukranians a little breathing space...
@@matthewrice3432 word.
They are paid to do so for their actions
Theyre a mercenary group who does things for what will be given to them
Also this is quite a bargain too for ukraine, they wont suffer much now cuz yk, wagner nows not supporting putin anymore
Atleast we wont see an invasion anytime soon but we'll see as time progresses...
Unfortunately we must pick the lesser evil.
@@Whoami691 True, like Biden over Trump. It's a no brainer. You have small time tax cheat v a family of traitorous fraudsters, grifters, and criminals who tried to overthrow the US government and who made/grifted many billions of dollars over the course of 4 years.
I could disagree with the thumbnail Prigozhin has said a lot about the war not bearing any results, that there were no NATO fighters involved, that Ukraine has a strong military realizing the war isn't very popular in Russia (no one is joining the military to fight) he might see ending the war as a way to make himself different from Putin and play that card...guess we will have to wait and see.
In the event that Prigozhin replaces Putin, he’d probably want to focus on consolidating his power in Russia rather than continuing Putin’s failed war in Ukraine.
@@bluecanary9417I think him consolidating power in Russia would be another losing play for Russia, hence why he wont do that. He will probably offer NATO control of Russia in exchange for immunity. Which NATO would never say no to. All they want is for the fighting to end. Whats one more criminal going free compared to thousands of Russians dying. Theyd help both sides rebuild and establish democracies on their own.
@@bluecanary9417 Inncorrect Prigozhin agree's with the war, and has said this isn't a coup. He wants to continue the war in Ukraine...
@@Shane-ju7op If it look like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a coup.
Pro Michael Clarke is just the man to hear from when it hits the fan!
Considering what happened to his mercenaries and the Russian military, Prigozhin knows capturing Moscow will be far more easier than capturing any city in Ukraine.
Go Prigozhin!
Slava Ukraine!
God’s fighting Ukraine’s battle. 🕺
@@r2hildur Probably not. Moscow would go up in flames minutes later.
god hates nazis
The special military operation of deputinze russia has started😉
@@r2hildur lol, doubtful. Why would he want to?? Putin wants to reunite the old USSR. I dont know if that would be a priority for Prigozhin. I think him having more power in russia would be his only immediate concern.
@@snodd8377 Dw wagner will be defeated soon
Poor Michael, looking forward to a nice lie in and relaxing weekend only to be dragged out of bed first thing.
Wagner gonna do same to putin
They are already half way there shooting down helicopter s and so far the regular military are already surrendering 180
☺
Prigozhin has already crossed the age old line: “If you take a swing at the king, you better not miss” He either wins or ends up on the end of a rope.
Prigoshen may have just crossed his Rubicon. He cannot easily turn back now.
He wouldn't have done this unless he had the green light from the powers that be. I'd say he's in a strong position right now. Putin is not the wolf in the hen house anymore.
The Russian troops will flock to Wagner. Prigozhin, while a loose cannon, has a realistic military assessment and knows the war is unwinnable. When in a position of national power, he will withdraw troops to 2014 boundaries and hope this will be sufficient bait to draw Ukraine into negotiations. Pure speculation on my part, but possibly not an impossible scenario.
if he takes control maybe. or russia falls apart or putin kills prigozhin or prigozhin wins and ramps up the war bigtime.
@@abcxyz2927I guess there are several disgruntled oligarchs that wants things to go back to how it’s was before so supporting Wagner would be a way to get rid of the problem Putin has put them in.
I don’t thing Ukraine and their supporters will acknowledge the 2014 borders, only all of Ukraine’s territories needs to be handed over and the war criminals needs to be send to Hague!
@@abcxyz2927I think they are used to taking their supplies (in Ukraine), so the same most likely will apply in Russia. I don’t know how far they’ll get but I hope it gives Ukraine the opening they need to regain territory.
Prigozhin will nuke Ukraine...
Do you think he'll pull Wagner troops back to Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea? Or will he vacate Ukraine altogether, to take on the Russian army and FSB in Moscow? Will he run to South Ossetia or Abkhazia, or even take on Putin's troops in Volgograd for added symbolic value? What's his basic plan? And if he dies doing it, what then? Putin nukes us all?
Destroying themselves from within. Whoohoo!! 🎉🎈
An excellent analysis,thanks.
This may be funny to many and a bit of schadenfreude, but an unstable Russia is not good for anyone. Who comes after Putin if he is taken down. The next guy could be even worse. We shall see how it all plays out, but let's hope for a quick resolution to this mess.
next guy could be much better also . maybe someone rational instead. russia has no need for ukraine. they could have just carried on making tons of money . but putin had to indulge his fantasies.
Czar Xi.
The rest of the world - even including China and Turkey - must make a concerted effort to make sure there is NO 'next guy', but some kind of stable-ish Constitution with an elected assembly which cannot readily be circumvented, on penalty of losing lasting international financial support and regulation. Some of the baddies (eg Prigozhin, various oligarchs etc will inevitably have to be bought out, but it would be worth it so see their backs.
Yeah I've considered that myself. If for instance, Prigozhin gain power he could be potentially worse.
A weak Russia is better for everyone, at least under the authoritarian regime that is now in place.
Give a ✌️☮️ peace a chance 🕊️🙌🕊️
Always a pleasure to listen to Michael Clarke ❤
this is why you should respect your chef .
I'm loving the Professor's county lines look! Street
"Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out"
Bravo Michael!
So unbelievable and so much fun.
Russian troops now have to watch their rear as well as their front .
I wonder how could Prigozhin support his 25,000 troops logistically (food, fuel, ammo, etc.) especially if this adventure drags on.
If they have the will and the heart, anything is possible..I think they will have to loot if they have to, take over a few military bases for equipment
I'm sure he can get it from Ukraine
Invade food markets u know
Wagner seem to be capturing military bases and depots.
Thats why he captured Rostov on don first, which is the logistical mainhub for the whole southern front.
I "heard" Russian stock market tanked BEFORE Prigozhin made his stand ... so corporate Russia knew this was coming?
@sumiland6445 I think he's probably had a conversation with several others who are quietly in his corner.
I love how the autosubtitles spell Prigozhin ‘Pringles’ 😂 Once war stops, you just can’t stop!
Trusting mercenaries was not a wise idea. They work for money and not loyalty.
True but that also means they can be controlled if you pay them enough.
Wow its like Roman times but scarily - with modern weapons
Putin appeared uncomfortable, shuffling from foot to foot. Pregosin may have accomplices within the Kremlin.
Certainly as does the USA. How do you think they were so certain Putin would attack. They know everything Putin is planning.
"Exactly 16 months ago, residents of Kiev were fortifying their city to prevent a Russian invasion.
Today, residents of Moscow are fortifying their city to also prevent a Russian invasion.
I remain a Master Strategist"
- Darth Putin
Priggy has 2 regular army generals already on his side. I do not think this guy has not done his homework. He knows the russian game as well as anyone. Putler has chosen his side, and now the game is afoot. Moreover, there are reports that Wagner has penetrated further north, so all is in flux and the outcome is still unpredictable.
who said the outcome is predictable? I didn't hear anyone saying that.
Where are all the trolls and bots 🤔?
Wheres all the popcorn gone ?
Toilet roll is running out in moscow, popcorn in the west 😂👍
Ukraine is actually one of the major producers of corn. So if the war keeps going on or if Russia gains territory, not only will there be continuing inflation on grains, but there will shortages too. Although popcorn shortages will be a luxury issue for the west. Worse for the developing nations who need the corn and the cornflour for their citizens not to starve.
That’s one reason to why the world need to help Ukraine to repel the Russian troops as rapidly as possible.
@@abrakkehakka1357 so this war is all about popcorn then 🤔
Take a bunch of guys out of prison, train them, arm them and then watch what happens....
One wonders where the Khadyrovites stand on this: will they try and protect Shoigu, who they also secretly despise as a jumped-up civilian in uniform? Will the Gazprom-funded mercenary groups put up a fight against the much more experienced Wagnerites - and how will the Wagnerites respond when their FSB paymasters stop those cheques?
I think they will stand down and go home rather than get wiped out.
It's only a matter of time before the Chechens see their opportunity and go for a breakaway again. Kadirov is loyal to only one man, himself.
khadyrov is waiting to declare independance from russia . that's where they stand.
Edward" Ed-ward?? EDWARD!!!!
What did Machiavelli say about using mercenaries?🙄
Putin: Special military operation is all going according to plan. 😂😂😂
Poo-tin is just upset because he needs to wash his trouser 😂
This is exactly the reason why machiavelli warns the use of mercenaries. They don't have loyalty and would stab you in the back if situation gets tough
Sledgehammer diplomacy awaiting….😂 my how it’s all gone to s**t so quickly for Putin.
Michael Clarke is somewhat behind the curve on a fast moving situation, its looking like elements of the Russism military have readily surrendered with some joining Wagner according to various videos and reports.
After Prigoshin's intoxicated rants and what I've seen of him threatening to bludgeon soldiers to death with his infamous silver hammer, I can't image him having genuine popularity within the armed forces.
He's too much of an oligarch himself to be considered a saviour of the motherland by any of the opposition against Putin - so how should enough people join him to unsettle Putin?
@@notroll1279 Russians are used to Oligarchs and autocrat leaders.. but Pregozhin is a more effective one than anyone in the regime or army right now.. so many will go with him if they think he'll pull Russian forces out of Ukraine.
@@notroll1279 In the last weeks/months he showed that has the most realistic opinion about the war out of any russian authority person and succesfully shifted blame towards Shoigu and Gerasimov, which surely helps his own reputation within the armed forces of russia. The russian soldiers on the frontline know that the MoD's depiction of the war is total BS. Therefore Priggo seems the "most reliable and trustworthy" leader they have right now. Why not follow him, if there is a chance to end their suicidal mission in Ukraine sooner than later?
@@notroll1279 soldiers value strength and truth. they see that in prigozhin. plus his rants are about his dead soldiers so they see him as caring about them. none of the russian generals or leaders care about the lives of the troops.
@@ronblack7870
Prigoshin cared about his soldiers little enough to push them through the meat grinder poorly equipped and trained in the first place, so I think his rants in front of stacked corpses are pure hypocrisy... and I think this didn't go unnoticed with Russian soldiers, either.
"where there is selfish ambitions, there shall be all sorts of evil and chaos" - James 3:16
James who?
@@XxBloggsJosephson or bar-Joseph, a 1st century CE inhabitant of Palestine - initially in Galileean town of Nazareth, later of Jerusalem
James seems to be a master of stating the obvious.
@@entropy5431 also to have no grammatical skills. There ARE selfish ambitions, not "is."
No. Prigozhin does not want to fight against one of the strongest armies in the world, as he called the Ukrainian forces.
Agree
if Prigozhin is allowed to do what he wants, in a month there will be no survivors in Ukraine
"If your enemy is doing mistakes don't interrupt him!". This is the end of the ocupation of Ukraine!
Two Russians fighting, one is going to lose.
Time to stop the war by coup and defection , save more soldier lives
From the clip I have seen, Putin wasn't "pretty angry" -- he was in a panic. Watch the video of Putin's address and mute the audio. Notice how he speaks a *few* words at a time, then pauses to draw breath, before continuing to complete the sentence. That is a signal of someone lacking composure and about to panic.
Michael Clare thinks, in error, that this personal battle between Prigozhin and Putin is framed by the amount of military support each wields. As one simple counter example, Putin has been paranoid over threats to his life expectancy since Feb 2022, and can only wonder if or when his personal security decides to change sides and end his reign.
I wouldnt want someone who would create another chaos just to get into the power. Smh.
He DOES want to end the war, what is this guy saying? Literally google it, CZcams it there's a bunch of clips. He said they could call it a major victory and an end to the special operation when they had some wins in bachmhut, saying they had a Crimean corridor secured.
Putin accuses basil brush of treason next
Time for an update.
As of now, pregozin's army is making putin's army look like paper tiger kinda army
Yeah right
And so much worse, then.
How is Prighozin financed, and from where does he get his material? Slava Ukraine!
Cia
Putin doesn't want to use Wagner as much now! It's about money!
It's not a coup, it's a special military operation.
It's a special military reform operation
No he wants to replace the mod and army leader too maybe.
And he wants money/contract.
Clark is a bit off on this one. An important fact to remember is that Prigozian also owns the russian internet troll units that were cited as having interfered in the 2016 election. For this reason he is very popular with the military milbloggers and has much more support among the military than Shuego. Look at trolls on youtube, they praise wagner as much as they do the russian military.
NATO should not be standing idly by watching these mad dogs fighting amongst themselves, then later unleashing more terror on Ukraine to justify their personal disputes. Ukraine should get more arms as soon as possible! 💙💛🌻
He doesn't want Putin's place. He simply wanted to make sure his militia had adequate needs for troops. 😊
I can't believe that we get to witness Fall of Rome 2.0 in our lifetime.
Soldier of fortune . . . . . Who is paying . . . What is the motivation ?? Fortune ??
Another century, more Russian serfs in the ground. Nothing is new 😪
Prigohzin just crossed the rubicon.
There is no return now. He either wins or dies.
we watch is silence wit the popcorn
Now... Prigozhin only needs to get hold of one nuke from Belarus.
Prigozhin is saying 'nice' things for the world to hear now but in reality he has no relevance whatsoever unless there is a war for him to participate and grow in.
never know he could go for peace for once and be hero if he could stop the insanity.
@@59trader43 you don't get peace from someone who ordered videotaping executions of own troops for surrendering.
As Napoleon Bonaparte said “never interrupt when your enemies are fighting among themselves “…🎉🎉🎉🎉🇺🇦
Superb !
*Making a mistake.
sun tzu
Clarke is not paying attention. Prigozhin already announced Russia had no business attacking Ukraine last year.
The trolls are quiet today 😂
Just heard Putin fled to St Petersburg, rather than face Pigozhin
WAGNER owner must be censured & prosecuted for felony crimes
Threads happened in 1981 on new years day
Wagner controls all supply lines including Kertch Bridge, interesting times
Putin.. "I don't need ammunition , I need a ride".
It’s a special reorientation
Whats the Russian frontline doing now?.. looking behind them and wondering which way to go!!
das very good men.
What if it's a con? What if it's a trap?
Michael Clarke getting all up in his best gopnik outfit for the occasion.
Mercenaries always end up dead in ditch
I didn't.
Whatever Putin is and all, Presdosian is the appitimy of craziness in a sledge hammer on the head way and with 4000 Nukes its truly a scary prospect.
I want to get a job stating the obvious!
Special Military Disagreement!
Prigozhin thinks he is the Pied Piper.
The notion that prof will even think about Ukraine if he becomes the new Russian Tsar - what a prize - is absurd. Eleven time zones as a prize and he wants to go back to Ukraine? When the whole world will immediately be offering him high value deals.
485th day of failed special military operation.