***130-0 DECK TECH!***. Is Bullszat the Best Deck in MTGO 1 vs 1 EDH?
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Two years ago I debuted a Rakdos CEDH deck that has quickly become not only my favorite Commander deck of all time, but my strongest as well. This design currently has a 130-0 streak on Magic Online, with no end in sight. It is the first deck I've ever played to a 100+ win streak on MTGO.
In this video, I showcase an updated version of the deck, chronicling all the changes it has received in the two years since I first featured it. This is a shorter deck tech compared to my earlier ones, but it still contains lots of new information. Thanks for watching! - Sport
I never picked up on the skulls in the mountain until you displayed the original hymn. Nice!
You might swap one of those basic swamps to a snow-covered swamp (so you can't fail tainted pact).
wohooo, so looking forward to watching this! cant getz enough of these deck techs! thanks Brian!
Great vid as usual! Just one question: Why don't you run a snow-covered swamp as a second basic swamp? This would count as a diffrent name for tainted pact.
Yeah, just a silly oversight that has fortunately never mattered. I've already corrected the list to reflect this suggestion in both paper and MTGO.
Nice Tech , Thx Brian!
New to cedh, I very much appreciate this video. The way you do this deck tech and the honesty and the fact you actually show every card b it behind a paywalls thanks, earned a sub
Thanks so much for the kind words! I've done a few other deck techs in the past, though most of those decks are a bit outdated at this point. But welcome to the channel, I hope to have more content up in the days ahead.
BTW, minor thing: you should cut one of the normal basic Swamps for a Snow-Covered Swamp. This way, you will never run into the issue of having a duplicate card revealed to Tainted Pact.
Yeah, an obvious oversight! A number of people have mentioned this, I'll make the correction.
Chaos Defiler actually doesn't target. It simply says choose. So you can kill things with Shroud, Hexproof, protection, and so on.
Awesome vid, thanks for the breakdown, strategy, insights, and the flavor bits.
I love that your other passion is disc golf - MTG and disc golf are my two main jams, though I haven’t been able to throw plastic for a bit due to an injury…I miss it
Man Brian when I first started playing disc golf I was fully immersed into that sport it's fun and it's for everyone
Right on! It's a huge passion of mine, and has been since the turn of the century. It is really the perfect sport for almost anyone and I'm doing all I can to help it grow. If you haven't seen my docuseries on www.learndiscgolf.com, you should check it out!
Awesome deck tech Bryan ! I suggest you to try Pre-Modern. Tons of nostalgia, wide variety of archetypes to choose from, and enough space for creativity and innovation
I’d like to see you do videos on a commander tier list
Hi Brian! Where is your sweet Mind Twist alter, was hoping to see it in the deck tech? 👀. Awesome video 🎉
updated decklist?
Curious, what’s your thoughts on coram? New card and all, but I’m looking at it in a similar fashion to this deck. Given a lot of steal-cast cards printed, it seems pretty viable
I went and took a look at Coram just now, it seems interesting. However, I think Bullszat leans so heavily into leveraging its commanders in a specific way that it wouldn't mesh with Coram. I'd love to see a prospective deck list if you want to link it!
Unfortunately CZcams doesn’t like links in the comment section, however here’s the end part of the moxfield deck list
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Copy and paste that after the “/decks/ when you’re on moxfield
can we get a link to the decklist i dont want to manually punch it in
And lemme say id like to see a round 2 for Nin, pain artist
^ This. Also maybe an Omnath update? I know that Brian may not have been focusing on other decks because of the streak but it is sometimes easier to get more games on MTGO when you're playing stuff that isn't quite so devastating for your opponent. I'm assuming cards that might make the cut for Omnath are Boseiju, Disciple of Freyalise, Fanatic of Rhonas, Phyrexian Nissa, and maybe Collective Resistance?
@@mexicanbadger4567 Haha, you're totally right here with your suspicions. I have been playing nothing but Bullszat for months because of the streak. At this point I almost want it to end, but I can't quite bring myself to reverting back to weaker strategies that might risk it. I think I'll eventually lose with Bullszat, and then I can go back to messing with some older designs. They're actually fairly up to date, just not something I've been playing.
@@Thebrianweissman As in Nate's latest video with Breya, it's interesting to see deck techs of the historical (yet now weaker) decks since we already know how the deck runs and can learn from why it's a weaker deck now. My vote goes to Nin.
Would love a decklist on moxfield or the like.
How does the deck do against Nadu the blue/green bird commander?
No idea yet actually, I haven't had time to play MTGO since Nadu was unleashed on the world. My hunch is that it could be very problematic, particularly in a tight list with a lot of early Countermagic. Heavy countermagic is one of the biggest weaknesses of Bullszat, particularly when it's paired with a clock. I think Bullszat could lose easily if it had a remotely slow draw.
Time will tell of course, I'll eventually play some people running the thing. It could be the thing that finally ends the streak, it would be a mercy at this point!
So this deck is tuned as a 1v1 deck? What changes would you make for a 4 pod?
One suggestion I would make is -mind twist +mycosynth lattice. I put so much time into 1v1 commander tournaments that I usually dont change much for 4player.
@@Ragtime4 It seems like any of the hand disruption should be taken out, replace with Red Ele Blast and Pyroblast at least, maybe Damnation, and 1-2 targeted removal?
@@darthpapa devastating dreams is one we’ve tried that I think is better than damnation. Does multiple things this deck likes at once.
@@Ragtime4 an interesting card. Any thoughts on the likes of Jokulhaups or Obliterate? Too high CMC?
@@darthpapa Nate tried Jokulhaups in the early days of this deck. The cost sucks, yes, but wiping out your own artifacts also sucks. Especially in multiplayer, where the extra mana provides the velocity you often need to overwhelm and lock out multiple opponents.
Let’s remember DrEvo has a definite perspective against this commander. 😂 Brian still owes me games btw
Are you playing these cards raw dog you mad man?!
They're just unsleeved for the video! Magic cards look best out of sleeves, and a lot of the cards in the deck are beautiful antiques.
RograKh ! Been playing it 2 years and didn't read the card name yet
It's a silent "K"!
@@Thebrianweissman 🤣
@@SketchBadger I imagine it should probably be a semitic kh sound (arabic/hebrew etc) but I’m lazy so I personally pronounce it Rog Rack. (Rog like Dog or bog). For me it’s also a callback to the Street Fighter 2 character “Balrog”
Very cool and I can see how this deck does well in a 1v1 format. However, most people associate "cEDH" with the more popular 4-player variation of the format.
Would you ever consider adapting this deck for 4-player? I imagine it would look extremely different.
One change I like to make is -mind twist +mycosinth lattice
This deck would lose every game in four player. It’s 100% not viable.
@@bradcallahan3546 Definitely not true.
@@Ragtime4 Don't care about your irrelevant stupid take. It's not viable. If it were you would see someone already running this and it would be putting up results. That isn't the case because rakdos is garbage in cEDH. Keep living in your own reality if you wish,
@@Ragtime4 In a cEDH table, it's going to have a really hard time. The way games are ended is typically through a combo that kills the entire table at once, and he's playing stuff that really only ends the game for one player at a time. Also, 1-for-1 effects like Duress/Thoughtseize don't scale very well when you have 3 opponents.
Rog/Tevesh is a valid commander pairing for cEDH and there are a few different ways to build it, but yeah, this current configuration is meant for 1v1 and wouldn't be ideal for winning a 4 player game.
I am curious about your comment on Nadu, is it too much that you would consider it a stupid deck? To me I would appreciate it if you happen to play a few games/matches with it (before it is banned XD).
I haven't been playing enough to get a sense of how effective the deck really is in the format I play online. My suspicion is that it's pretty insane, probably a hyper-powerful version of Edric. However, it does require some key pieces that can be disrupted, and without them it's kind of just a 3/4 flyer for 3. I'll definitely have more to say if I can get some games in against the archetype though.
ok DrEvo here... ive sat and thought about answering the actual question to this video. i would say red black tevesh isnt the best deck in edh or 1v1 cedh. reason for that. I have found that cedh white is often a silver bullet for a deck like this. red black tevesh can be extremely fast and goofy for sure. but its holes are the fact it relies so heavy on artifacts its almost worth it for an opponent to play artifacts themselves as well as play null rod. as long as you can remove planeswalkers and shut down artifacts as well as not let opponent play things at instant speed and are able to slow down the game or keep pace i have found anything played can be ok. if youre playing red against this deck i feel things like treasure nabber or price of glory are worth a look. urza artifacts.... now thats an interesting matchup. i had a game with nate where urza dominated. ive had a game prior to that where i know i lost but cant remember how. baral with a master of the game is extremely well as well as teferi. honestly i feel a tier list is needed. thats why i suggested that as a video. i feel 20 commanders, rated for 1v1 cedh would make for more conversation, as well as bring controversy.
I think the most threatening white cards for this deck are stony silence and drannith magistrate. When those come down on turn 1 it can make for a very difficult game. Overall though white has a very hard time containing fast starts.
@@Ragtime4well when I beat this specific deck with Nate at the helm, white was the deciding factor I feel. I couldn’t have won against this deck without it.
@@Ragtime4just wanted to add on how correct you’re about white. I’ve played thousands of games where white was just so slow and I couldn’t get anything going.
@@DrEvo1983 The best mono white deck I’ve played against in 1v1 tournaments since we started running Bullszat is Oswald Fiddlebender. I tend to see 1-2 in every monthly event. The matches are consistently challenging because the decks I play against are well crafted and well piloted.
You should disclaim that this is for 1v1 cEDH, which I have to assume is the case. Otherwise the deck is unplayable. No one thinks 1v1 when they hear "cEDH".
"CEDH" in MTGO parlance means "1 vs 1". But I agree with your feedback, I'll add MTGO to the title. Thanks for touching base!
I don't play the format, but I'm pretty sure most CEDH tournaments are not 1v1. I follow Sam Black, and he posts about the format alot, and I'm fairly certain that its almost always played in 4 player pods..
@@Shizzle7111 Yeah, I understand that’s the case. However, I play Commander almost exclusively online, where 1 vs 1 using the Multiplayer list is the order of the day.
@@Thebrianweissman That may be true, but this video makes no mention of 1 v 1 and your short hand of CEDH= 1v1 is just not correct.
@@Shizzle7111 it is correct for Brian and the mtgo community, and others like myself who play 1v1 offline tournaments. Your intolerance comes across as toxic, and borderline bullying.
No black market connections is a crime.
BMC is slow. Comparable to Fable of the Mirror Breaker I think
Haha, quite an ironic statement, when you consider :P We actually had the card in the deck from the day it was printed until fairly recently. But increasingly, the card was just too slow or too damaging to really leverage. I found myself casting it, having no immediate impact on the game, and then sometimes barely using the modes for one reason or another. Sometimes I didn't want to cast it at all. That's not the kind of consistency I require for a card in a deck this tight.
In a way, the card is like a bad "modal" spell. There are a lot of modal cards like that, that seem to do a bunch of things, but don't really do anything well. That's kind of how I feel about Black Market Connections. I haven't missed it once since I cut it either, I've never found myself thinking "Man, I wish this card was BMC".
I don’t understand
Are you playing against just one opponent?
I have seen content on mtg online cedh. It’s not one v one.
You have been a pro. You must know this isn’t an optimal build for cedh. How has this won 130-0?
I don’t mean disrespect I know you are a great player and deck builder.. I’m truly confused.
I don’t have mtgo, personally, I play cedh on spelltable and irl (have played a version of this very deck)
This must be a case of there being 2 different things called “cedh” and you must be playing some 1 v 1 version of cedh?? Yes??
Maybe a thing to clear up because there’s a huge and growing number of cedh players and they could see an old pro showing a deck and believe it’s a great (maybe “the best”) deck for cedh.
Maybe there is a 1v1 version and it’s more popular than I SOMEHOW have caught on to in the literal 5 years I’ve been playing, forgive me, “real” cedh.
Can someone, Brian if you have time, explain this enigma to me?
Thanks. Great video. Very well done. I just don’t think this is quite up to “cedh standards” unless there is a different version of cedh also just called cedh and also on MTGO??
So strange🤷♂️
Hey, thanks so much for reaching out with your questions. I have realized that much of the community has a totally different definition of "CEDH". On MTGO, that's a competitive 1 vs 1 format that uses the multiplayer banned list. People label their games "CEDH" when they only want to invite top tier competition. I actually don't put up that disclaimer when I host games, because I'm more interested in facing a gamut of designs rather than the same 2-3 abusive strategies over and over. It makes for better game play, and more interesting videos.
I've changed the title of the video to reflect this realization, removing the term "CEDH" entirely. Hopefully that clears up any confusion. Happy to answer any other questions you might have.
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@@bradcallahan3546 Which ones would that be?