Trans Women’s Impact on Thai Fashion | States of Undress | Refinery29
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- Hailey travels to Thailand to explore how transgender models are redefining fashion and influencing a new generation. But does representation on the runway lead to social progress?
This episode of States of Undress first aired in 2017.
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Why you gotta make jabs at Trump?
😊😊😊😅❤❤❤yea agreed 💯👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Gotta love that Thai doctor - 'if they can't walk up the stairs, not strong enough for the surgery'. Thai people would accept that without question.
That doctor cracked me up! 🤣 defo should have his own tv show!
@@Shithappenswhenuglad am not the only one who thought that😂
Honestly, this series is Anthony Bourdain-level. Truly amazing. I wish more series like this existed.
Surpasses and is head and shoulders above!
I am so enthralled and seriously awed and impressed by Hailey's journalistic skill!!!The world and this time needs more real journalist like Ms Hailey, I will gladly pay to support this woman's work, insight and beautiful heart.
I feel like really gives a good overview of the situation, and really how difficult it can be for people stuck in the beauty industry, especially trans women. I pray that all these women will grow to be more accepted under the law and society. In the US these struggles are also commonplace. I hope somewhere will lead the way for trans rights socially and legally
My wife is a Thai trans woman. We've been waiting over a decade to legally marry in Thailand. We are legally married in the US. It's a slow process and the Thai government is really dysfunctional so all manner of needed reforms just aren't happening. Here's to hoping in a few years things will improve. Know hope.
Not necessarily stuck in the beauty industry. It’s big in Thailand and many other Asian countries where trans women have no choice to resort to sex trade. For them to have a career in beauty modeling or anything for that matter would be better than that. Unfortunately they are still not treated fairly and the same.
I hope NEVER!
That's because they're men 🤦🏻♀️
@@exnihilo415 I don’t know if this is the right place to a dress this subject, but I would like to culture myself about trans people in Thailand and Philippines.
Why they have so many trans. Is it a survival thing, escaping poverty; it’s a high born rate or something else?
I apologizes for my writing, English is not my first language.
❤ host / producer Hailey Gates is so enjoyable to watch. She is intelligent, witty, adventurous, and respectable as she navigates scenarios and cultural encounters, and her journalistic point of investigation and inquiry is revealing and informative (as i have seen in other shows as well). Also, she is a full on cutie with beautiful striking features :)
AGREED !!!❤
This is so unique. The people of Thailand genuinely mourning a leader not forced having their own emotions and memories through the generations, it’s an exchange of respect. We should take notes.
Perhaps if it wasn’t Biden 😂
@@perla4118 You’re telling me the alternative would be better for LGBT people?
Wellllllll we kinda have a pretty good PR team for the monarchy. The royals here are just as ba everywhere and our corruption is pretty bad too. It's all smoke and mirrors.
@@exnihilo415like invert Trump and his invert wife? LGBTQ have gone beyond wanting equal rights, they are a protected class.
We should have a leader worth worshipping. Oh wait, that's what God's for, and we don't have kings for a reason. It's kings of our whole thing.
I'm trans in the USA. I'm a USAF veteran with education and struggle to find work. Interestingly, is that the same men who vote against ppl like me are the same ones who offer money to sleep with them. I wish equality for trans ppl everywhere. ❤
you're a man
no one just hire you anyways
A truly lovely and quite touching video; *Hailey* is absolutely marvellous and all these trans women are as well : so very brilliantly well done, **Hailey* and *Refinery29** 💖✨💖✨💖
the trans men too, Jyb is so handsome 🥰
@@finnrogue9435 no she's not
These transwomen are gorgeous and super cool people. 🧡
this is really well made it gives us viewers a point of view on thai trans community experience and life within Thailand.
Thank you for this because I've always wondered why their idols are styled so so well compared to other industries lol
Because image is the most important thing in Thailand.
Discussing the more than complex on style, is not only a visual assessment. Much like I complained when my mother collected me from primary school dressed like a marvel character in spandex leggings and leather knee high boots 🙁
This was such a delightful and enlightening documentary!
lol you're trans
This is a really amazing insight. I’m really learning a lot watching these ❤️❤️❤️
This series is done so so well.
I had seen other refinary videos too, but this was heart melting ❤
This is such a touching video, I literally cried ❤
And subscribed. This is an amazing example of reporting. Such great handling of a sensitive situation! Truly professional
As a Thai this is interesting Transgenders are tolerated here we Thais are just open minded but I I’m started to do more research thanks for sharing
Thank you for the interesting content for letting the world understanding the Thai Transgender. I miss the 2016 moment when our beloved King Rama the 9th died. Great editing and nice Thai music.
Very interesting video. The personal trainer was cute though
this was 1 of my favs
I am happy to see trans women get representation as long it is safe for them
I hope you care about the safe spaces of biological women just as much.
@@allouttabubblegum1984ah look at you all over these comments, so obsessed about other people, strange.
@@allouttabubblegum1984 why would they not.. why r u bringing that up lmao, not eveything is about you..
@@allouttabubblegum1984 It is NOT 🙅♀️ all about bubblegum
That was amazing to watch! Do one with muxes next
i'm crying watching this, idk why. pom rak khun Thailand ❤
THIS WAS BEAUTIFUL
What I love about the Thais is their serenity…..very amiable.
Absolutely love all her videos!!!! Binging as we read! ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉
Same, and this one is most dear to me personally. She really knows how to ask a question as an ally. Always the witty sarcasm keeps me inquiring along with her.🎉
This was v interesting. I enjoyed it.
This was such a beautiful and positive video ❤❤❤ Loved every second of it.
I like Lolita,she seems like a fun person,Pinky is Stunning and Armmy is just so likeable.
i almost threw up when i saw him... insufferable
They're so gorgeous!!
I think I can say that I've never seen a journalistic style such as Hailey's before and it's so lovely to see. It's fantastic to see a journalist that is so respectful and also loving towards the people she interviews. The world definitely needs more Haileys!
I miss this show!! I wish VICE could bring this back.
Love this 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜
Thank you for uploading this gem of a mini doco💓💗💕💞💘💝
okay man who's dressing up as a woman
@@meikusakabe4167 just like your mother xx
I recognized Mimi from her modeling on project runway!
Hailey is incredible
The level of the respect for the grief is so beautiful ❤
So inspiring
I’m newly trans woman
So ?
@@donnadiore2356 so they're happy to see trans representation from other countries, stop trying to troll random people lol
I hope best to your reborn journey. bless u!
Same 😊🖤🖤🖤🖤
so it was a choice?
Amazing.
Very interesting. I learned slot about Thailand. 👍
Love all you special ladies.x.
The ending was the best... "So you pray for the bad things to like, you throw it away.." and then the interviewer says, "Like Trump!" 😂
Here it is now 2024 and we still are trying to throw him away! Lol
Its mimi from project runway no?
That “doctor’s office” is the stuff of nightmares.
It's fine. He knows what he's doing and his prices are low allowing many Thai trans women to transition without massive financial hardship. Despite the look he does excellent work.
source? trust me bro@@exnihilo415
well, he is a doctor with very cheap prices, so it is to be expected imo, at least I'm glad trans women have the chance to go through those procedures for not much of a high price with a professional
Very unsanitary. Leave your shoes on, saves time. 😮
@@finnrogue9435I'd hope he'd invest in more sanitary conditions.
I LOVE this video!!! Thank you so muchfor highlighting the lives of trans women and the $ex worker community!!! Go Thailand!!!
That Surgery in the backroom is SCARY. Can you imagine, "Don't take off your shoes, it will take too much time." 😮😮😮😮😮
no thanks
Love Hailey 💗
Oh yes, so do i ; she is absolutely marvellous and i truly do adore her: her sensitivity, sincerity, compassion, kindness, loveliness, intelligence and wisdom 💖....
These are all my favorite *yutulux*！
Haily trying to walk like a boy had me laughing so hard . She's so goofy and i love it . Btw i just found your channel and already wstched like 3 or for episodes 😅
Omg…..that doctors office….operating room and recovery on a lounger! Holy cow! 😮
Yeah, it's rustic but he's a very good surgeon and his prices are low allowing many poor trans women to transition beautifully. My Thai trans wife had her breasts done there.
@@exnihilo415yes, things look different but that doesn't mean it's not good treatment. A very different mentality in western countries than the rest of the world, like solitary rooms in recovery instead of being all together.
I'm glad to hear of a personal story about this office.
@@SpectrumOfChange Honestly, Dr. Thep at Poly Clinic is quite an outlier in Thailand. Almost all the other transgender clinics in Thailand are at western standard in terms of rooms and private accommodations with higher prices to match, of course. Kamol Cosmetic Hospital, Suporn, etc. The reason my girl went to Dr. Thep is that he's just really amazing at breast surgery. You want to get it right the first time and breasts are notoriously difficult to correct later on to make them even. I have literally known girls who had work done in Beverly Hills and then revisions and it still wasn't right. She went to Dr. Thep and he sorted it out. He's just an amazing surgeon.
🎉Favorite!
34:07 THIS HAD ME DYING 🤣🤣🤣
For me 00:34 it was “no feelings” 🤣🤣
Have you already interviewed Loiza Lamers from the Netherlands? She is a transwoman and supermodel
l am worried about when models are older. good documentary
Men or women they are all so beautiful ❤
oh, well, they’re women👍
@@rsfx3617they are men.
Its so weird to see a whole country genuinely mourning to the point that everything is black to convey grief. No one seems to be complaining! I don't mean it as bad way, but its just different how there are countries that genuinely respect their government leaders you never really see that often.
Me watching this knowing my favorite color is black 😊😍🖤🖤🖤🖤
Help a comment section and report all the inevitable trolls. ❤🌈
I wanna move to Bangkok Thailand❤
As a trans woman, that trans man is one handsome human!
Well thats always happen in malaysian trans pageant too.. politic (between the organizer) is normal
Imagine if brits were told to do the same when the queen croaked loool
All the always black clothes peeps would be rediscovering colour
🤣🤣🙌🏾 The cheap, careless and crazy Thai doctor, this is the second documentary I have seen him in. He is carelessly hilarious. He should definitely have his own (loosely inspired) tv show.😜
😍
mimi so beautiful
*yutulux* aesthetic is amazing!!
❤
Very sad that she said that they were seen as freak !😟 For me Trans are not freaks they are special!
2016? This is from 8 years ago?
9:55 LOL she said Wendy Williams ❤😂🎉
#love 🩷
Philippines and Thailand has the most beautiful Trans girls in the world. It's amazing how beautiful many of them are compre to other countries
Because most start hormones treatment when they are still kids before puberty damages their body
The grooming begins young for some to convert/ change genders in hopes to bring money to their family, and thus trauma and other crimes are committed towards them from childhood due to greed and lack of morals and values of human respect
@@QuintessenceLuminescencewell said
If you’re into orientals , then yea .. bc the trans girls in Latin America are gorgeous as well
@@SexyBeautifulBabe TRUE! There are beautiful trans women all over the world.
I don’t know if this is the right place to a dress this subject, but I would like to culture myself about trans people in Thailand and Philippines.
Why they have so many trans. Is it a survival thing, escaping poverty; it’s a high born rate or something else?
I apologizes for my writing, English is not my first language.
South east asians, before the coming of middle east religions, have very fluid perception of gender. But even after Christianity and Islam came to the region the tradition is still not totally lost. For Thailand, who was never invaded with foreign religion, the cultural perception still permeate the country.
@@inuhundchien6041 So you are saying, because it’s a small and “open minded” country the rate look higher than its is?
@@Tchokwe they're saying that because of more acceptance, trans and gay people find it easier to exist openly there than in other countries that are more conservative, leading to a higher recorded rate of openly trans people
The grooming begins young for some to convert/ change genders in hopes to bring money to their family, and thus trauma and other crimes are committed towards them from childhood due to greed and lack of formed morals and values of human respect
The doctor answered the questions. It's not that there is more it's more accepting. If other countries were to be more accepting not as many people would be closeted. Not saying it's anymore accepting in Thailand; wish they'd be able to change their gender markers on legal docs
If the pageant wasn't rigged, Pinky would have won hands down!😊🥰
Any young man walking into that "doctor's" premises or into that half empty pageant hall is deluding himself.
6.5 BILLION!?!? Omg. I have so many questions, is this from mostly foreigners? What is the percentage of citizens that contribute? I just wonder cause if its a lot of citizens that support that industry yet dont want to allow equality, I would be raising hell as these women.
Just checking your thought regarding what I have heard are called Lady Boys in Thailand!
The last trans looks like my neighbor... they are so alike...
But @ 11:48 its sad that any living human feels like they are a joke!!!! Thats also not fair we arw who we are!!!!
The period of mourning for the King is very touching. I'm not a fan of the Chinese fashion designs.
YAS...High Priestess No Feelings 😊
@30:26 😮😮😮😮😢❤!!!! Really dad u thought denying your son education would be the best way to go about that problem😮😮😮😮!!!!!!!🤔🙄😮💨😮💨😮💨🤕🤕🤕🤕
😊😊😊😅❤❤❤❤😊🖐️💜❤️🌈🌈🌈hello there to trans woman in tiyland
So if "all pageants are rigged," why bother?
Exposure to get into modeling, at least for the girl that was primarily shown here 😊
Emma stone in poor things mixed with dakota johnson
❤😂🎉😅
The us can learn something from their trans and Apple's agency. The fact of not being represented as a woman but as who they are, transgender, being so meaningful to them speaks volumes about what is happening here. Be proud of who you are, dont try to be someone you arnt. As a woman thats my biggest issue with the trans here, otherwise i wouldnt care. I just dont see my being as something that they can impersonate. But they want to overtake what being a woman is instead of standing in their own identity. I think it's insecurity based, otherwise why diamantel women and over take the word and everything its comprised of. Imo they can be there own beings. Be proud of their journey just dont down play others.
You dont find equality and acceptance by impersonating another. You find it by being true to yourself and respectful to society.
It shouldn't overshadow women it should be in line with. We are uniquely different and that is a beautiful thing. If more transwomen here learned to respect the people they are idolizing they wouldnt have so much backlash, but when you can't respect the work and lives off the women you base yourself off of while using their identity to validate yourself there's really nothing left to talk about.
where can I find that FUCKING SICK gender org chart you showed? shit was crazy and I want to look at it more
The doctors office is disgusting!!!
He’s a very good doctor. Old doesn’t mean unsanitary
Will they include in the book how awful the king was? I can't understand people... he was a terrible person not only to his people but to his wives and multiple columbines. Thailand should be celebrating for a year and not mourning.
So Jyb is both trans and a tom? Phew, I’m trying really hard to understand
i think they mean in the us jyb would be a transgender man but in thailand he is a tom
@@PxstelMorgxn Oh, I see! Thank you :)
Trans men have existed in wlw/lesbian spaces in the west as well.
My name is Angee. 🤭 Go figure.
dude she made a cute ass tom, with the little hair over the face
The world will never be normal again. We don’t even know what normal is.
World was normal when humans were still living in caves and hunting each other for food. Cannibalism. It became abnormal and unnatural when humans acted less and less like animals, like starting to farm and building things. From point of the mother earth we are already abnormal animals.
Teenager chicken 🐓. Hahah
I can tell what she wished for
The Thai King has died? Wow!
This documentary is from 2016 not 2024 !!
The saying in the Bible is true when the righteous are ruled, the people rejoice sounds like Thailand had a very good king
yall are ok with saying TOMBOY but won't say LADYBOY